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Not referring to you, but since when is a 2.5 hr movie long? Personally it would be hard for me to consider a movie today great, unless it was longer than 2 hours.

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Agreed. To me, any movie that is shorter than 2 hours will be under developed and will likely be rushed, or it just ends leaving a bunch of loose ends.

It totally depends on the movie. I've sat through movies well over two hours that flew by and watched 90 minute movies that felt like an eternity. I've generally found that if people are complaining, it didn't need to be that long. I think some movie makers think that it proves their movie is great if they stretch the time, most times, it isn't worthy of it.

Two know it all's and one stalker. What more could the board ask for?

I am not a stalker!!!

It probably has a lot to do with the fact that every other post he tries to convey himself as some sort of college-educated know-it-all ..

... and every post between that he's asking for advice on something most of us could figure out with a little common sense.

I personally loved TDK and it was awesome. However, it's clearly overhyped because everyone has it ranked as the best movie of all time. Don't get me wrong, I loved it. But it's not the best movie ever.



On another note, saw "Crash" for the first time last night, wow, that movie is beyond amazing.

You sure treat it like it is.

With all the bickering aside I did think TDK was a good movie, question who would you guys like to see if they do a fourth movie? My vote would be for Bane or Mad Hatter.

Fastest to $300 million and best 2nd weekend. Absolutely incredible.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx/?news=324682&GT1=28101

'Dark Knight' sets new record for reaching $300M
July 27, 2008, 12:09 PM EST

LOS ANGELES (AP) — "The Dark Knight" continues to obliterate box office records, crossing the $300 million mark in just 10 days.

The epic Batman saga grossed $75.6 million in its second weekend in theaters, pushing its domestic total to $314,245,000, Warner Bros. head of distribution Dan Fellman said Sunday.

That surpasses the record set in 2006 by "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest," which took 16 days to make $300 million.

The latest Batman installment already had broken records for best opening weekend at $158.4 million and best single-day with $66.4 million. It's also busted records in its showings on IMAX screens, making $16.3 million in its first 10 days.

Fellman expects that "Dark Knight" could reach $400 million in about 18 days, which would beat the record "Shrek 2" set in 2004 when it made that much money in 43 days.

"What can you say? We've been getting a lot of repeat business coming in," Fellman said. "Our audience is expanding, like you would expect with terrific word-of-mouth and strong reviews. Our audience is getting a little bit older, that's the good news. We're finding the younger demographic, male and female, coming back."

He called it "a big surprise," adding: "To do $300 (million) plus in 10 days, we just couldn't have predicted it."

"The Dark Knight" could pass "Titanic" as the highest-grossing film in U.S. history, said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers. James Cameron's 1997 extravaganza made $600,788,188 domestically, a record no other movie has come close to touching.

"The `Titanic' record has sat in a lock box for 10 years. It's a tall order but if any film has a chance to surpass that number, it's got to be `Dark Knight,'" Dergarabedian said.

Director Christopher Nolan's follow-up to his 2005 origin story "Batman Begins," which again stars Christian Bale as the tormented comic-book crime fighter, initially benefited from the mystique of the late Heath Ledger giving his masterful, last performance as the Joker, Dergarabedian said.

"Now, it's all about word-of-mouth," he said. "The first weekend, there was this huge, pent-up demand and eagerness by audiences to see this movie. Now, it's like a freight train — it seems to be unstoppable."

Part of the film's visual allure comes from the fact that 30 minutes of it were shot with IMAX cameras, including an elaborate bank-heist scene at the start.

"Chris (Nolan) has clearly hit upon something," said Greg Foster, chairman and president of IMAX Filmed Entertainment. "There are many important filmmakers who we've spoken with in the last couple of weeks about shooting with IMAX cameras."

Coming in second place was "Step Brothers," which had a strong opening of its own with $30 million. The comedy reunites Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly, co-stars of "Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby," as 40-year-olds who've never left home and are forced to share a bedroom when their parents get married.

Rory Bruer, head of distribution for Sony, said this was at the high end of the studio's expectations.

"We'd hoped to be in the mid-to-high $20 (millions), so to hit $30 (million) is a great start," Bruer said. "Having the chemistry of Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly together again, reuniting with (director) Adam McKay who did `Talladega Nights,' it's great. They both immerse themselves and the humor comes from their connection."

Sony also has the Will Smith superhero flick "Hancock," which made $8.2 million this past weekend to cross the $200 million mark.

The weekend's other big release was "The X-Files: I Want to Believe," which made an estimated $10.2 million. Ten years after the first "X-Files" movie and six years since the pioneering sci-fi show went off the air, this latest installment finds Mulder (David Duchovny) and Scully (Gillian Anderson) re-teaming to solve a missing-persons case.

"The hardcore `X-Files' fans, they're happy. And frankly, that's who the movie was made for," said Chris Aronson, distribution executive for 20th Century Fox.

Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Media By Numbers LLC. Final figures will be released Monday.

1. "The Dark Knight," $75.63 million.

2. "Step Brothers," $30 million.

3. "Mamma Mia!" $17.9 million.

4. "The X-Files: I Want to Believe," $10.2 million.

5. "Journey to the Center of the Earth," $9.4 million.

6. "Hancock," $8.2 million.

7. "WALL-E," $6.3 million.

8. "Hellboy II: The Golden Army," $4.9 million.

9. "Space Chimps," $4.4 million.

10. "Wanted," $2.7 million.
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If they don't have Two Face as the villain in the 3rd movie, then they just wasted one of the best bat-villains. I was so happy to see him done right. It totally made up for the retarded Tommy Lee Jones version.

If they go a different route, my vote is for the Penguin. Only have him as a hard core gangster, like in the comics, not the sewer monster played by Danny Devito. If not him then I'd vote for Catwoman done right. Don't get me wrong, I loved Michelle Pfeiffer in latex, but it wasn't quite right either. If not those 2, I vote for the Riddler done right.

There really aren't too many villains that I think fit into this more realistic, modern Gotham. Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Clay Face, Killer Croc, none of these guys would look right running around in downtown Chicago.

Ra's al Ghul was easy to adapt. They left out the immortality and Lazarus Pit.

J/K

I loved this movie. The best ever. I don't think so. Just having Christian Bale as Batman ruins that for me. The guy is terrible


Ledger was Great. I thought he was getting all the hype because of his death but after watching he deserves all the accolades he gets.

I saw the movie this weekend and I was dissappointed. I felt it was a Thriller/Suspense movie diguised as an action flick. I just don't find that really entertaining. It was still a decent movie, but like someone said earlier ... it felt like you had the weight of Gotham on your chest the whole time.

I actually didn't think Bale was that bad, although I guess I can see how people would have a problem with a raspy voice. I didn't think Ledger was all that spectacular either. He was great no doubt, but maybe I was expecting better after all the hype. He seemed to be your stereotypical pshyco guy who overuses his tougue.

I'd probably give the movie a B or so ... I think people are buying into all the hype, and the fact that everything else out now is complete crap. Also I think Ledger's death is helping as well. For some reason, I get the feeling that if Ledger didn't die, this movie wouldn't be doing quite as well. (It would still do well though).

But on imdb ... people now have Wall-E as the best animated movie ever and Batman as the best movie overall ever?? Puh-leeze! I actually liked Batman Begins better, as the plot was a lot more interesting to follow.

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But on imdb ... people now have Wall-E as the best animated movie ever and Batman as the best movie overall ever??

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Humans Are Stupid.

Well, looks like TDK SHOULD cross the $400 million mark after tonight.

It's the fastest to $400 million by far. It took Shrek 2 43 days to reach that mark and TDK will have done it in less than half the time.

With $10 movie tickets, and a weak crop of movies it's competing against ... it should be expected to break monetary sales records.

Here's the real, all-telling list: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

That's movies by inflation adjusted ticket sales ... where everybody is on the same footing. Basically the same way books, records, and every other form of media count their records.

nice...

Ammo=Pwned!

TDK is 67th of 100. I wonder how many years it would take to overcome Gone with the Wind ($1.4 billion in today's 2008 dollars). TDK is right now around $400 million.

Note: Use the adjuster tool in the upper right-hand corner to adjust into any year's dollars.
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Year^
1 Gone with the Wind MGM $1,430,476,000 $198,676,459 1939^
(a whole bunch of movies)
67 The Dark Knight WB $393,751,100 $393,751,065 2008

Heck, even Passion of the Christ is ahead of TDK at 55th place!

I think the hype will die down by November. I still want to see it, but I'll wait for it at Loewmann's Plaza. ($1.50 movies!)

That site is so awesome. The TDK fanboys, and I'm not calling ANYONE in this thread that term, are all pulling to beat Titantic's $600 record. Too bad it means nothing. TDK would need to reach, like the site says, around $910 to truely "beat" Titantic.

If you think about it, if the ticket prices continue to average a 5% increase over the next decade, that's a LOT less tickets to sell to reach the mythical $600 record Titantic set.

2008 = $7.08
2018 = $11.53

- Those are averaged across the country (including matinee prices).

So TDK has made $400. That's 56.5 million tickets.....in 2018, that comes out to $651. Someone is going to "beat" Titantic's "record" eventually. jeez.



...and for the record, I'm a HUGE fan of TDK. Best comic book hero movie of all time in my book.

Well, shoot.....you can also say there are more theaters and advertising avenues to get the word out of a big movie today than 10-20-30-40 years ago.

Yes, I agee....a $400 amount is awesome in today's piracy age but there are also other factors that help boost the past decades too.

I think TDK is going to keep going strong for a while.....I didn't think it could beat the Mummy this past weekend. We'll see if the totals keep coming in strong. Funny thing about Titantic, there were three weekends during its release that the weekend totals were higher than the previous weekend. That's insane!

I wasn't exactly trying to "pwn" him ... just show that TDK has awhile to go if it really wants to be an "all-time top" movie. I remember when Independance Day came out, it broke a bunch of records, and everyone thought it was such a great movie (one of the best ever, etc) ... now it's barely in the top 30, money-wise and it's not exactly a movie everyone would stop and watch if they found it channel surfing.

Another note about Titanic ... everyone is comparing it's domestic numbers. It was it's international sales is where it really cleaned up. It made almost $2 billion total, and the next closest is LOTR, which is only $700 MILLION behind.

j/c

The title of this thread is "Let the hype for TDK begin".

It is now officially time to let the hype die.

It's still apples to apples. Dollar for dollar. Not all those movies have been re-released. And, as was pointed out, some, if they were re-leased, were still re-released on FAR fewer screens than the first run of TDK.

List of movies that have made MORE money than TDK that have NOT been re-released

Gone With The Wind ( to my knowledge, if had been, in my lifetime, I would have been there to see it. My 2nd fave movie)
Titanic
Jurassic Park
Star Wars: Phantom Menace
Forest Gump
Lion King
Shrek 2
Ghostbusters
Spider-Man
Independence Day
Home Alone
Beverly Hills Cop
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Batman
LOTR: Return of the King
Spider-Man 2
Animal House
The Passion of the Christ
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
Back to the Future
LOTR: The Two Towers
The Sixth Sense
Superman
Tootsie
Finding Nemo
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.

And those are just the ones that I know haven't been re-released. There may be ones on the list that I'm missing.

I'm not saying it's not possible for TDK to become the all-time box office leader, just that it has a looooooooooooooong way to go to get there when comparing straight up dollar for dollar. I mean, it has only been for what, a month (or there about) and it's already 67 on the list. It just has a helluva a row to hoe to get there. Hell, Titanic couldn't do it and it took MONTHS to get to where it is. But it was still done in today's movie age. Bootlegs, DVD releases etc.

But TDK is the most awesomist, groovy, neat-o, cool, bad ass, wonderful, fantastic, cult hero lovin, jiggy, get down, best acted, piece of art to ever be produced. All hail TDK *everybody should be on their knees bowing and worshiping * the undeniable greatest feet ever accomplished by mankind.


There Ammo I summed it all up for you

What's with all the banter about how much the movie will make? I mean, who cares... No one here is pocketing any of it. At least, I think not.