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Even if they stick with Rogers, Favre being there is going to be a huge distraction. Once the season starts, the fans will forget this, and every incomplete pass Rogers throws they'll be screaming for Favre.

The Packers need to trade him or just release him. Even if he goes to Minnesota its highly unlikely he'll have the offense down by the time the season starts, so they don't have to worry about him embarassing them in the opening game at Lambeau against the Vikings.

True, they did. They should have said to Favre, flat out, you can come back but you won't be starting here. Your choice.

I can't believe the amount of people who excuse this man's antics. At some point, the man needs to grow up. He should relax in Mississippi and pop back a few more pain pills.

Favre to blame for nasty divorce

By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports
13 hours, 24 minutes ago


GREEN BAY, Wis. – Aaron Rodgers dropped back, set his feet and prepared to release a routine slant pass when he heard the squeaky voice from behind the fence. The fourth-year quarterback paused during an individual drill late in the Green Bay Packers’ training camp practice Tuesday afternoon and spied a little boy, maybe 6, among the hundreds of spectators lining the Oneida Street side of Clarke Hinkle Field.

“We don’t love you,” the kid said. “You suck.”

Rodgers didn’t respond to the taunt, nor did he acknowledge the pockets of fans chanting “we want Brett” and “bring back Favre” at sporadic points during the practice. But given the way things had played out since a certain legendary quarterback’s dramatic return to Titletown less than 48 hours earlier, there was an obvious message that should have been delivered to the kids – and the people acting like them – going to pieces over the messy divorce between the Packers and Brett Favre.

The Aaron Rodgers era has begun in Green Bay, and if you don’t like that, you’re taking it out on the wrong quarterback.

“I know people are emotional, but that’s an interesting way of expressing yourself,” Rodgers told Y! Sports after Tuesday’s practice. “All I know is we have a really good team, and we’re excited to get ready for the season.”

It’s a season which, it now seems painfully clear, will take place without Favre in a Packers uniform for the first time since 1991. And if you want to know who’s most responsible for that, Packers fans, take a look at that No. 4 jersey in the mirror above your dresser.

There have been numerous tactical missteps made by Favre and the bosses he publicly suggested are dishonest – general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy – during this month-long saga, and Packers fans have a right to be frustrated at both camps. But if you believe that the quarterback soon will be leaving Green Bay, most likely via trade to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, because those merciless meanies just didn’t want poor ol’ Brett around, you’ve got more than cheese clouding your head.

As McCarthy stated in his news conference after Tuesday’s practice, and as Favre himself had stated more clearly in his latest woe-is-me interview (this one to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen) earlier that morning, the reason the future Hall of Famer couldn’t come back to the Pack was that he can’t let go of his ill will toward his employers.

Rodgers, meanwhile, has every right to be bitter about the way things went down since Favre stepped onto the tarmac at Austin Straubel Airport on Sunday night. Yet he’s the one biting his lip and acting like the adult.

Let’s see it from his perspective: After waiting three years for his shot, and without much warmth or mentoring from the guy he was playing behind, Rodgers finally was told he was The Man after Favre’s tearful retirement news conference in March. Shortly before training camp, a story surfaced that Favre had the itch to return. Favre, via text message, dismissed the report as “just rumors,” which was a lie.

After floating his desire to come out of retirement, Favre waited for Thompson and McCarthy to embrace him as the reinstalled starter, just as he so often has demanded to be indulged over the latter part of his career. This time, they didn’t respond positively – partly because they didn’t believe he wanted to come back and play, partly because they already had committed to Rodgers and didn’t want to destroy their relationship with a talented quarterback they had spent years grooming, and partly because they were tired of being in a subservient position.

Favre got more and more resentful, lashing out publicly and privately demanding to be released. The team held firm, insisting that it would only trade him to a team outside its division. To force the issue – and thanks largely to the intervention of commissioner Roger Goodell – Favre secured his reinstatement, flew to Green Bay and, in a shameless bit of showmanship, showed up at Lambeau Field with his wife Deanna to watch the team’s “Family Night” scrimmage from a luxury box.

In that glorified 11-on-11 drill, with some of the 56,000-plus fans booing him, Rodgers completed just 7 of 20 passes. Afterward, he fielded questions from reporters and learned – from them – that the Packers supposedly had declared an open competition between him and Favre for the starting job.

Gulp.

“It was news to me,” Rodgers admitted Tuesday. “All of a sudden people are talking about ‘open competition,’ and I’m wondering what happened.”

For the next day and a half, Rodgers, like the rest of us, wondered what it all meant when Packers CEO Mark Murphy said the team would welcome Favre back “and turn this situation to our advantage.”

On Monday night, as Favre was staging meetings with his superiors that dragged on so long that McCarthy had to cancel a quarterbacks meeting, it certainly didn’t seem that things were working to Rodgers’ advantage.

Nonetheless, publicly and privately, Rodgers did what Favre can’t seem to do these days: He kept his cool.

“If I was going to get mad, or throw something against the wall, what difference would it have made?” Rodgers asked rhetorically. “All I can do is control the attitude I bring into every day, stay positive and think about leading this football team to the best of my ability.”

Favre, meanwhile, couldn’t overcome the negativity that apparently has been swirling inside his mind for quite some time. In that lengthy vent session last month to Greta Van Susteren of Fox News, Favre complained that he couldn’t trust Thompson because, among other things, the GM had ignored his pleadings to acquire Randy Moss and hired McCarthy over Steve Mariucci, the one-time Packers assistant and former 49ers and Lions coach with whom the quarterback is extremely close.

Think about that: Favre was affronted because the Pack’s general manager wouldn’t follow his quarterback’s decree about whom to hire as head coach.

The Packers hired former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer as a PR consultant, but in truth, Favre is the one more in need of such image management.

Consider that Favre, in another interview, said he only wanted to play for another NFC North team – in order to play the Packers twice a season. Now that’s loyalty.

Yet, for all his regrettable posturing, Favre still had the image war won when he stepped off that plane Sunday night and received a hero’s welcome and an invitation to return to the Packers’ roster. At that point, the coach of another NFL team told me, “The game’s over. There’s no way Favre won’t get his job back now. If you don’t start him, how are you going to explain it to all of those fans?”

If Favre, as some suspected, was preparing to engage the Packers in a game of chicken, be it in an attempt to go where he wanted to go (Minnesota) or to get his old job back, this is what he should have done:

1. Not attend the scrimmage. (Perhaps he and Deanna could have stayed home and rented a DVD.)

2. Apologize to McCarthy and Thompson for having called them dishonest and assure his bosses he had overcome his ill feelings and was embracing a return to the organization under any terms.

3. To prove he totally was on board, show up for practice on Tuesday, wave to the adoring fans, meet with reporters afterward and tell them, “I just want a chance to compete for my job and help this team” – even if he believed the competition was going to be a sham.

4. Quietly push for a trade or his outright release and wait for the Packers, facing the prospect of a season-long quarterback controversy and a $12 million tab for a player they had hoped would stay retired, to blink first.

Alas, Favre couldn’t help himself. On Tuesday, while still in discussions with McCarthy about his future, he took a break to call Mortensen and confirm what many of us had suspected all along: Favre, despite another public statement to the contrary (“My intentions have always been to play for Green Bay,” Favre had told the Sun Herald of Gulfport, Miss., before returning on Sunday), was the one who wanted out.

“The problem is that there’s been a lot of damage done and I can’t forget it,” he told Mortensen. “Stuff has been said, stories planted, that just aren’t true. Can I get over all that? I doubt it. … So they can say they welcome me back, but come on, the way they’ve treated me tells you the truth. They don’t want me back, so let’s move on.”

Move on is what most of Favre’s teammates were eager to do on Tuesday, even some of the Packers who’ve been most supportive of his return.

“I think it should end today,” veteran cornerback Charles Woodson said. “We should be talking about the team; instead, we’ve talked about one guy for the last five minutes. This is a situation unique to itself, and it has become its own monster.

“You’ve got fans out there yelling ‘we want Brett,’ yelling A-Rod this and A-Rod that, Ted Thompson this and Ted that. That’s not looking at the grand scheme of things. It’s not helpful at all. You’ve got fans that are die-hard Brett fans, and they’ve put that above the team.”

If Favre, by forcing the issue, did the Packers and his successor one favor, it was this: We’ve gotten a small taste of Rodgers’ demeanor under intense pressure, and to the young passer’s credit, he has kept his cool a lot better than the outgoing legend.

“Aaron Rodgers has done everything right,” McCarthy said during his news conference. Later, the coach talked about his conviction that Rodgers will succeed in his new role.

“You just have to believe in a number of things,” McCarthy said. “Number one, I think he’s prepared himself for this opportunity. I think he has the tools, physically, mentally, emotionally. I mean, you talk about what he’s been challenged with emotionally of late, this is great (training). Who’s had better training to play in the National Football League than Aaron Rodgers, and I think he’s handled it well.”

Hopefully, that maturity will start to rub off on Favre – and the fans who can’t find the grace to cope with the fact that their hero willfully abandoned them.



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Favre needs to let it go. I think the whole thing about people calling him a future HOFer as he was still playing went to his head and made him into a diva. He's messing the team up by stringing this out and taking it not just public, but to the point where everything on every sports news station is about him and his woes. I dont get it.

Great article Jules! Finally, it is good to see an article telling it how it really is. An article not blushing over Favre.

Espn has a blogger from Minnesota who has been writing every day on this story and he is so biased against Green Bay it is not even funny.

Every year he goes back and forth..I get the feeling he likes the drama.

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“We don’t love you,” the kid said. “You suck.”

Rodgers didn’t respond to the taunt, nor did he acknowledge the pockets of fans chanting “we want Brett” and “bring back Favre”

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If that doesn't illustrate how stupid fans can be, nothing will...

All Rodgers did was get drafted, sit quietly for 3 years, waiting for his turn and someone yells we don't love you and you suck to him..

Yeah, I know, it was a young kid,, maybe 6 years old according to the article. I understand kids say dumb stuff.. but kids don't come up with that kinda stuff on thier own.. Adults, be they parents, grandparents, friends or neighbors say it and kids repeat it..

I understand the fans not wanting to let go of Favre.. I really do.. Hell, if Bernie Kosar wanted to come out of retirement, I'd be ticked off if the Browns didn't bring him in for a try out..

But I'm not enough of an idiot to blame DA or Quinn or Dorsey for it..

As for Favre,, I don't get it. it's all He said, They said.. I don't really know what is true and what isn't in all the hubbub to be honest.

What I can believe however is that Favre retired.. I watched part of the Presser so I know that for a fact.

Something else I know, the Packers have a business to run and a team to prepare.. They had to move forward... without Favre.

So they make all thier plans, set the table for Rodgers, draft 2 young QB's in the 08 Draft to develop and they set out to run the team in the Post Favre era.

Sometime since his retirement and now, Favre announces he wants to UN Retire...

Those are the facts I KNOW FOR SURE....

What I can't know, but can guess at is this,, Favre had a kinda handshake, smokey back room deal with the Viks, that if he could get out of his contract with the Pack, they would pick him up and bring him in.

Again, I don't know this, but I suspect that the Pack got wind of this and have done and will do everything within thier powers to see to it that he never plays for the Vikes or any other Division rival.

But wait, there's more (did you think I was gonna offer you a two for 1 deal )

Lest you think that the Packers would escape my rath

They appear to have taken on a smear campaign regarding Favre. I'd have thought much more of them had they kept thier mouths shut and settled things behind close doors..

But, alas,,, neither party is without a degree of blame..

I'm seeing alot of Favre bashing going on. What I don't see is anyone looking from it from all sides. What if Favre is telling the truth? I believe that the Pacers forced Favre's early decision and he felt that they didn't want him there so he retired. I believe he had second thoughts, obviously. He wanted to come back but there was animosity, real or perceived, on both sides. None of us know what was said or done. The Packers, IMO, have wanted him gone for awhile now. They obviously didn't want him back as the starter.

This isn't all one-sided. People can talk about him being a diva or whatever, but they really don't know what it's like to give up the game. They don't know what it's like to have your career end. I know how it felt to have it end because of injury and I know that is nowhere comparable to being the best player to play the game at his position (arguably) and still have the skills he showed last year. It can't be easy and I think that once he felt the Packers wanted to push him out the door, the competitor in Favre wanted to prove them wrong.

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I believe that the Pacers forced Favre's early decision and he felt that they didn't want him there so he retired.

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Favre played football in Green Bay, not basketball in Indiana

LOL, good catch. The old fingers working faster than the brain.

If I were to bash Farve, it would be for the total distraction he is causing, putting his wants and wishes ahead of the team, and in general wreaking havoc with the organization and the league. I find it hard to believe that anyone forced BF to do anything, even if he were "encouraged" to retire, he could have said no or asked to be traded before he went on national television and weeped about how it was time to hang up the cleats.

You're right, in that none of us knows what it's like to go through the retirement decision, but he does... He's done every year for the past five years or more and I understand why people are tired of it.

And you're right, in that none of us know what was said or done behind closed doors, but we do know his behavior in the past few days is nothing but a bizarre distraction. Frankly, I'm fed up with this story dominating the league news. I loved and admired him as a player, now I'm just sick of his face. And that makes me a little sad.

I understand what you're saying, but keep in mind that Favre didn't leak the story and stayed quiet about it for quite a long time. Also, Favre isn't the one that is airing it 23 3/4ths hours a day. I'm tired of the coverage, too, but don't blame him for it.

Has he been selfish the last few days? Absolutely, but then again, what allegiance does he have to the team if he feels that he was done wrong by them? Someone has to look out for Favre and in his mind, right or wrong, that's what he's doing. He stated many times he didn't want to be a distraction. Had he wanted to be a distraction, he would have been on the field instead of agreeing not to participate in camp until this was resolved.

j/c

I just have a feeling Favre is a guy who just doesn't know how to live a life without football. I mean, imagine if for most of your life, just about every waking moment is devoted to one thing. Then, all of a sudden, you're just giving it up and expected to find something else.

I know for me, that'd be pretty darn scary. Now, I'd be able to find other things (like sitting on a recliner ), and I know stations would be absolutely drooling over having him as an analyst. Heck, the city of Green Bay would probably elect him mayor for life.

JMHO

You are dead on. The man, no matter what has been said and done, is a competitor. He relishes the competition and the contact. He revels in it. It's not easy to walk away from. In fact, very few would walk away if their skills would continue and they could continue into their 50s. Favre's still a very talented, durable player. Walking away after the performance he had last year cannot be an easy thing to deal with and something none of us can relate to.

I don't know. People make transitions in life all the time. We all spent 13 to 17+ years in school (starting at 5 and then college). Did we have trouble giving up school for work? Nope. Do parents struggle with having their kids FINALLY move out after 18 to 27+ years (haha...27). Nope. And your job, would you be sad about leaving your job of 30 years? Maybe the people.....but most people would retire 10 minuntes ago if they didn't have to work to pay for their house, car and family.

What is it about professional athletes that make it so difficult to move on? It's the attention. They're addicted to being a "somebody". As soon as they retire, it's all over (unless you go into broadcasting and people still care about what you say).

Great response.

CoachB, I attempted to respond to you a couple of times but couldn't find the right words. Punchsmack summed up my feelings about it pretty well.

Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. It's not the attention. I'm not being insulting when I say this, but you have no idea. I've been there and got little to no attention and I know what it was that was hard to give up. For players like Favre, it's a million times worse.

Yeah, I guess you said it best when you pointed out that we really don't have all the facts. I feel sorry for that team now, and for those fans... and even a little for Brett. I truly hope something gets worked out quickly so everyone can move on... Until he retires from the Bucs or whoever, next year.

So you refuse to even see the possibility that there is another side to the coin. OK, if you say so. Again, you can bash Favre all you want, but his history in the game is that he ALWAYS put the team above himself, playing through injury and even the death of his father. He has NEVER been accused of not being a team player. For this kind of situation, it is totally against everything that Favre was noted for. Do you seriously think that the only explanation is that he suddenly had this huge personality change? To borrow your phrase, "whatever".

I have read SQUAT #1 posts on this...Notta 1...And won't...I'm SICK OF FARVE...No interest because I'm not a GB Fan...

Thing that pisse s me off is he has taken away from the coverage of 31 other NFL teams that actually HAVE a QB right now...

Having not read a sentence on this thread beyond yours...Does anyone think he will succeed in another atmosphere outside GB???

I see THIS happening..>He goes wherever...And it doesn't matter where...He's ALWAYS been a SLINGER...He ain't the BEST of the BEST in reading squat...He's gonna be a SAD ASS QB wherever he goes folks...WATCH...

Brett...SWALLOW IT...Go fish and enjoy your life and family...

I'm confused. When did Favre buy ESPN and all the other sports programming? Favre hasn't taken anything away from anyone. Blame the media for the coverage.

Favre is a HOF QB. Period. I don't know how you can say he won't do "squat". He already has.

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Until he retires from the Bucs or whoever, next year.

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Wouldn't it be interesting if the Packers traded him to the Bucs, who in turn traded him to the Vikings? I don't for one minute think it will happen, but it would make for some great quotes out of Green Bay. Not to mention all sorts of heck raised about collusion, inside deals, etc!

Coach B, I totally get what you're saying. Playing the game you love for a living and working 9-5 for a living are totally different. Most of us would retire in a minute from our jobs if we financially could (as was said earlier), but if we could make a living playing baseball, football, or whatever sport/activitywe loved it would be so hard to walk away. Heck I'd give a lot to suit up one more time in any of the sports I played competitively when I was younger.

Just wanted to chime in and say I agree with CoachB (hell must have frozen over).

Giving up football was one of the hardest things I ever had to do, and when I drive by practice there's nothing I want to do more than put the pads on and practice.

And that's just high school, not anywhere close to the rush of a pro career.

And yes, it's the media to blame, not Favre himself. Should be interesting to see the Packers fanbase turn on their team.

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I'm seeing alot of Favre bashing going on.

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I'm of the opinion that it's well deserved!

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What if Favre is telling the truth?

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About what?

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I believe that the Pacers forced Favre's early decision and he felt that they didn't want him there so he retired.

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Ahh, I see someone hasn't been following the entire story.. It was reported a while back (Please don't ask me to look it up) that Favre contacted the Packers sometime in April saying he is rethinking his retirement. He was told,, great,, get up here and we can discuss it further.. My understanding from that article was that He NEVER came up in Aprl and instead sprung this on the Pack in July...

Then he put them in a box. By then, they had committed to Rodgers, drafted two other QB's and spent the CAP money that was originally designated for Favre..

Now how can any team be expected to make those type of adjustments that quickly?

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The Packers, IMO, have wanted him gone for awhile now. They obviously didn't want him back as the starter.

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He's the one that retired.. if he didn't want to then why did he.. I don't believe that there is anything obvious in this situation other than HE RETIRED. I didn't see a gun to his head..

Try and remember coachB,, he's been partially pulling this retirement stunt for going on 4 years now.. will he, won't he.. and that messes with the team, the CAP, the Players and the coaches..

IF the Pack decided they didn't want him,, Who could blame them,,

He's acting like prima donna..

Actually, I have followed the story. You are taking the word of the FO that Favre contacted them and they were warmly accepting of him and he never showed. Favre claimed they were being dishonest. No one knows but the FO and Favre. That's why I said what if he's telling the truth.

Again, Favre has always been a team first guy his entire career. Why would he suddenly have such a personality change? There's more to the story than what's being reported.

Funny how Favre is getting killed for the media coverage when he kept silent about it until the story broke.

DinD, Boller? The only way Boller will ever be in the HOF is to buy a ticket. Please do not pretend that Favre isn't one of the best to ever play the game. You know the game too well to blow your credibility with a statement like that.

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Actually, I have followed the story. You are taking the word of the FO that Favre contacted them and they were warmly accepting of him

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and your taking the word of Favre that they weren't... who's right?

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Again, Favre has always been a team first guy his entire career.

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Whoa.. every year for the last 3 or 4 years he's been treating the team like it's his own personal YoYo... that's NOT team first in my book.. not even close... but, to be fair, that's JMO,,,

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Funny how Favre is getting killed for the media coverage when he kept silent about it until the story broke.

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Sometimes, it's deserved... this may well be one of those times. and IMO, it is.

OK, who has more to gain by being dishonest? The FO that's trying to keep their fanbase or a QB that decided not to retire?

Yo Yo? Well, IMO, he contemplated retirement the last couple of years and this year in his words, felt forced out. Either way, before the retirement scenario, he's never been reported to be anything but a team first guy.

Did Favre force the media to cover this or did the media dive on it with both feet?

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The Brett Favre era in Green Bay is now officially over. But Favre's legendary career is not.

The month-long saga has finally come to an end, with the Packers agreeing to trade their future Hall-of-Fame quarterback to the New York Jets, FOXSports.com has learned.

The exact compensation was not immediately known, but it is believed to be a single draft pick that increases in value depending upon how the Jets perform during the 2008 season.

As a result of this, the Jets will likely release a quarterback. Signs have been pointing to Chad Pennington as the likely culprit because the team will need to free up cap room to fit Favre's contract under the salary cap.

The Jets were much more aggressive than the Bucs in their pursuit of Favre all along. The bigger issue was getting Favre on the same page as the Packers front office as far as the Jets were concerned.

Finally, late Tuesday, Favre talked to Jets head coach Eric Mangini and others in the organization for the first time as they tried to convince Favre he would be a good fit in New York.

The Packers had been hopeful of getting a deal done with the Jets for two reasons. One, it was the better offer on the table as far as the quality of the compensation. Two, it sends Favre out of the conference, meaning a meeting in the playoffs is an extreme longshot.

This trade caps a roller-coaster offseason ride for Favre — the 38-year-old owner of nearly every meaningful passing record in NFL history — and the franchise that became synonymous with his legendary No. 4 jersey. Favre's on-again, off-again retirement has monopolized headlines for the past two months as news began trickling to the media that the legendary passer was second-guessing both his retirement decision and his status in Green Bay.

The sports world first bid farewell to Favre in a nationally-televised press conference on March 6. At the time, the decision to retire seemed somewhat of a surprise considering the resounding success of Favre's 2007 campaign — 4,155 passing yards, 28 touchdown passes, plus career-highs in both completion percentage (66.5 percent) and yards per attempt (7.8). In other words, one of pro football's best quarterbacks ever to play was his most accurate while throwing more deep balls than ever before ... in his 17th NFL season.

Most importantly, the Packers were coming off a revival of a season in which they went 13-3 record en route to winning the NFC North division title. Better yet, after the New York Giants shocked the NFC's No. 1 seeded Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs to give the Packers home-field advantage in the NFC Championship, the stars seemed to be aligning toward a perfect Hollywood storyline — the legend going to the Super Bowl in his final year. It was going to be perfect — after two straight years of subpar results and retirement waffling by No. 4, Favre was poised to have the chance to leave football on top like John Elway once did with Denver.

But Favre's fairy tale became a nightmare on a cold Sunday night in January as the Giants upset the Packers, leaving the veteran passer looking weathered and worn after another grueling season. Ironically it was Favre's longtime friendly rival, Giants defensive end Michael Strahan, who lived the fairy tale, won the Super Bowl and retired with a championship ring before being hired as an analyst on Fox NFL Sunday.

Still, last season was such a success that most fans and media expected Favre to return for at least one more season, if not more. And even Favre admitted at his own retirement press conference that he still knew he could play — and that he would want to play again at some point before training camp began. Unbeknownst to the public at the time, Favre even flirted with a return shortly before April's NFL Draft — a return which Green Bay says it was fully prepared to embrace until Favre flip-flopped yet again on March 29. As Packers head coach Mike McCarthy tells it, "we had reached a point of closure ... Those were his words. And he was going to stick with his initial decision."

It was after that fateful episode that the Packers finally moved on with Life Without Favre, completely handing the keys to the offense to Aaron Rodgers, the first full-time starting QB other than Favre since George Bush Sr. was Commander in Chief in 1992. Green Bay even selected not one, but two quarterbacks in the seven-round draft to fill the sizable void left by Favre.

It was around this time that word began leaking to the public that Green Bay might have a serious QB controversy on its hands. But while many could have predicted Favre's "itch" to return this summer, few were aware of the angst he felt towards the organization, an angst that contributed to his desire to play elsewhere.

On July 4, Favre text-messaged Thompson, who asked the quarterback to discuss the matter the following Monday upon return from vacation. A July 8 conference call was scheduled, during which for the first time throughout this up-and-down process Favre emphatically declared that he was once again 100 percent committed to football.

After the Favre camp mailed a letter to the Packers asking for his release, the dominoes continued to fall — with other teams rumored as possible trade partners, tampering charges filed by the Packers against the rival Minnesota Vikings and around-the-clock media scrutiny surrounding both Favre and his now-former team. Both parties tried to stay tight-lipped publicly, but then there was the three-part Fox News interview and the infamous Boys and Girls Club grilling McCarthy about Green Bay's beloved No. 4.

As July 27 — the date marking the start of Packers training camp — creeped closer, the stalemate continued ... and it became clear that neither the Packers nor Favre wanted him in Green Bay amid the expected media circus that only P.T. Barnum could never comprehend. With new media gossip leaking daily, at first it seemed the Packers were getting desperate — with reports that they might trade Favre within the NFC North. Packers President Mark Murphy even flew to Brett Favre, Mississippi (actually Hattiesburg) to offer the best quarterback in franchise history $20 million over 10 years NOT to come back to Green Bay.

Then reports surfaced that, after everything, Favre himself was considering budging from his position to accept the Packers' "marketing" offer. But he finally arrived in Packer-land intent on reporting for what McCarthy suddenly termed "an open competition."

But now ... finally ... we all know the answer to the question — the quarterback with more touchdown passes, passing yards, completions and wins in league history — has left the building in Green Bay, for good.

HAHAHAHA good luck against the patriots twice a year!!!!

J-E-T-S SUX SUX SUX......congrats on killing your career Bret see you on the IR by week 6

YES!

Finally, now I can quit turning on NFL Network and seeing 75% of Total Access dedicated to the Brett Favre situation.

Now instead they'll be talking about how he looks in a different shade of green.

Yanno.. If all this is happening, and he's behind the Jets bench, thats all the TV will talk about. I'd rather see and hear the Browns game and not the Favre saga

Ackk..

Oh dear god they better not talk more about brett favre then the browns tommorrow.....