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I am seriously thinking about getting another gaming counsel. I have a Wii at the moment but the games absolutely suck for it as in the third party games, i would get rid of it if it wasn't for the hope of a new Zelda game or something in the future. I want a system that i can play online and actually have good games for it, so i have decided in getting a 360 or PS3.---- pricing does not matter i have a way of getting each of them with all the perks like online and such for 400 at the start--- I have done a lot of research on games, and know about all the 3rd party games and exclusives for the systems, and prices and such and i basically know all about them. But, i might of missed something and i still don't know what one to get. What do you as people who have these systems have to say about the one you have (PS3 and 360) ill use your advise, with mine, in my final purchase.
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If you're buying a system for online play, get the 360. If you want a system with larger storage space and blue-ray capabilities, get the PS3.
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since you've done all the research, go with what you think. Don't let someone else make your decision. You did the research - you stated so. Go with what you decided.
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There is not much to miss, I got a PS3 because of Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and Socom. They are three of my favorite games, they are PS3 exclusives so it was easy for me.
When it comes to online the 360 has the edge, but IMO the PS3 is not far behind, especially with firmare 2.4 that finally allows in-game XMB and Trohies which is like Live's Acheivements.
(Oh, if you didn't d/l 2.4 it will be available tomorrow, people that had custom themes were getting thier PS3's bricked because the update changes the XMB and the custom themes [not official ones] were not coded for the new layout, so they took the update down until tomorrow to fix that issue)
Media the PS3 has the advantage because of the ability to upgrade the HDD to the largest 2.5" on the internal one and you can hook up any external HDD. And then not to mention Blu ray. But the 360 can be upgraded to 120GB HDD which is plenty large enough for gaming, and there is talk about an add-on Blu ray player.
So it comes down to games, what do you like, what system offers more or all of them?
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I don't see why ps3 online gets such a bad rap. It's free and I experience no lag. Infact, it's quite speedy watching the japanese gamers lap me in the racing games. lol.
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If you play mostly shooting games I'd get a 360, if you play mostly sports games, I'd get a PS3. I have a PS3 and I think it has better graphics than the 360. The only thing I like more about 360 is Halo and Gears of War. Also, if you are playing on an HDTV the PS3's graphics will be even better compared to the 360.
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i disagree, after playing sports games on both consoles, the 360 looks much better...
the 360 is also better for first person shooters, as i love the feel of the controller, and the triggers... (plus halo and gears of war are great)
online play? the 360... microsoft will probably always top them in that department...
but with the ps3, the blu ray technology is fabulous... it is one of the best blu ray players on the market (i've been doing research for the past 3 weeks or so)
one other thing that ps3 has over the 360 is that microsoft's reputation for being durable isn't good...
we've all heard of the red rings of death, it's not fun, my console is actually at the repair center as we speak, it seems inevitable, and microsoft has offered to extend this for anyone who owns a console...
i've also had to have my old xbox repaired, 2 or 3 years ago, and was charged for it...
i've had the same sony playsation 2 for 8 years, and that thing has been beaten, kicked around to the point of where it should be in pieces, yet it still works... i used to just unplug it, take the cords, and wrap it around the console when i went over to a buddy's place, and it still works to this day...
although after talking with a family member who works within the video game industry, he says the ps3 is not exactly squeaky clean either, they have some memory issues according to consumer reports... but nothing like the red rings of death...
i think the bells and whistles are nice, hard drive space, the ability to customize your home screen, all that stuff, but what it comes down to are what kind of games do you like, and how much do you value online play?
if you're one of those that's loyal to metal gear, or halo, then you don't even need to ask, because that's the road you'll go down, and to be honest, most of the best games are on both consoles (call of duty, gta, etc)
put it this way, despite my console shutting me down, and having other problems, i still love the 360...
i'm enjoying the ps3, i love metal gear, but the 360 will probably be used more
(the blu ray is awesome though)
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PS3 man....
I have never had a problem with complete meltdowns of the system like the 360 seems to do....
- very reliable system
- easy to configure/maintain
- will if not already have the largest game selection
- best CONTROLLER
- free online play
- BLUE RAY is becoming the main producer of DVD's for all companies and a blue ray player is usually more expensive than the system itself
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Well, it all comes down to your choice of game that you like. I picked Ps3 because I had a Ps2 and had quite a few games for it already. Besides having games for Ps2 I loved MGS, GTA(at the time was exclusive) Madden, FF, and I loved the ever-reliable dualshock type controller while I hated the 360's.
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I don't see why ps3 online gets such a bad rap. It's free and I experience no lag. Infact, it's quite speedy watching the japanese gamers lap me in the racing games. lol.
Yep - did that all last night with GT5. .... got lapped that is 
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does the 360 upconvert regular dvd's? PS3 is a quality upconvert dvd player. remember the 360 has been out for a year longer than the ps3. The ps3 is just beginning to tap its potential (or so I hear) 
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I made a list of games id get that are 3rd party and on both systems
1 GTA4
2 Oblivion
3 Call of Duty 4
4 Madden 09
5 Ncaa 09
6 Call of Duty World at war
those are the games id get for both systems no matter what, the problem is just that id get a lot of 360 older games but i don't know whats coming out in the future for the system other then Gears 2 basically. I will make my decision after E3 with the announced games for the future. also i thought that madden 08 for the ps3 wasn't as good as 08 for 360.... I'm worried about ps3, even though its more powerful, is not producing the better graphics for 3rd party games. But, like i said, i will wait till after E3 to see what the companies have to offer for the year to come.
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reasons i would buy the system because there basically the same to me...
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blu ray
free online
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more friends have it
better online
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I can tell you that with out a doubt the reason the Madden 08 looked better on the 360 was because of EA and not because the PS3 can't handle it.
At that time the PS3 only had 2 million sold in the USA and EA didn't want to spend the extra dev time to polish the PS3 version because out of the 2 million potential customers how many were going to buy the game? So it was pretty much a direct port from the 360. Which both the 360 and PS3 have different structures. There is certain things that you can do on the PS3 to take advantage of the Cell. If you don't then you won't have the performance.
And that's what EA did, there was a low customer base so they didn't want to spend the money on the extra dev time.
EA already said that the 09 version will be equall on both systems and I'm sure the now 10 million + USA customer base has a lot to do with it. And also EA said they were building the game from the ground up on the PS3 first. And there was an article not too long ago (i'll see if I can find it) that stated most 3rd party devs are building on the PS3 first now, where as in the PS3's first year it was the opposite and they were built on the 360 first.
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Do you own this game or are you renting it? I'm still thinking about buying it. It would be cool to get a Dawgtalk race going somehow. 
I was able to hold my own against the better drivers. I couldn't beat them, but I would at least finish a few car lengths behind. I think you almost have to have a steering wheel to do really well. I wish they would have "controller only" races. 
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If durability (RRoD) is a concern of yours for the 360, spend a few moments and google "360 jasper". It's the next hardware revision that's due out in August. This is the big one because it shrinks the GPU to 65nm (instead of 90). A hardware revision last year shrunk the CPU down to 65nm and it helped some, but the real problem with the system is the enormous heat given off by the 90nm GPU. The Jasper should eliminate this. This is the version I will be getting.
Edit: Sorry, that reply was intended for the OP.
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I have never had a problem with complete meltdowns of the system like the 360 seems to do....
- very reliable system
- easy to configure/maintain
- will if not already have the largest game selection
- best CONTROLLER
- free online play
- BLUE RAY is becoming the main producer of DVD's for all companies and a blue ray player is usually more expensive than the system itself
i don't think playstation's controller is better than the 360 controller...
also, blu ray players right now are not more expensive than a ps3...
they have come down in price significantly, and you can expect even more price dropping as christmas arrives...
also, ps3 does not have a bigger selection of games...
i have heard from consumer reports that it is one of their negative points right now, lack of exlusives...
will they eventually have the biggest library? debatable, but definitely not fact.
each system has their pros/cons, but after playing both, the graphics are really the same...
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not looking to start a debate, each controllers probably have the same amount of buttons, actually does the 360 have two rows (4 total) of pressure sensitive buttons(L1L2R1R2) at the top?
they both have two anolog sticks and a D pad.
some like the bigger heavier controller,
some like the smaller lighter controller, that being said.
360 doesnt have 6 axis control, (motion sensitive), and if people consider the controllers equal, that would be the seperating factor
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i don't think playstation's controller is better than the 360 controller...
I do, I can't stand the 360 controller, but that's JMO
also, blu ray players right now are not more expensive than a ps3...
they have come down in price significantly, and you can expect even more price dropping as christmas arrives...
Yes but the PS3 is still the best because it can be upgraded via firmware updates
also, ps3 does not have a bigger selection of games...
i have heard from consumer reports that it is one of their negative points right now, lack of exlusives...
will they eventually have the biggest library? debatable, but definitely not fact.
Because of the previous 360 exclusives comming to the PS3 (ie. Lost Planet, Overlord, Bioshock) the PS3 will have more exclusives out by christmas, but these are mostly first party games (Ressistance 1 & 2, Rachet and clank, Uncharted, Haze (Not 1st Party), Little Big Planet, Metal gear solid 4 (Not 1st P), God of War 3, Heavenly Sword, Lair)
each system has their pros/cons, but after playing both, the graphics are really the same...
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i don't think playstation's controller is better than the 360 controller...
its a matter of opinon but i think they layout is more simple and easier to use.
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they have come down in price significantly, and you can expect even more price dropping as christmas arrives...
not the point.. as of right now Blue ray disk players are still expensive and having one in a game system makes it all the more better.
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I think the graphics on PS3 are unmatched to the 360 and comparison reviews also claim this
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I think the graphics on PS3 are unmatched to the 360 and comparison reviews also claim this
Especially if you're playing on an HDTV.
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do you have that article.... because im getting most of the 3rd party games probaly id like to know which one the developers and making the games on because they tend to look better then the other
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the graphics are really the same...
I think the graphics on PS3 are unmatched to the 360 and comparison reviews also claim this
Thats interesting, The comparison reviews on Gamespot usually favor the 360.
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ya i was just looking at them 360 has won each time overall. What I'm thinking is this.... 3rd party developers are going to put them on the 360 and ps3... why would they develop a game on a ps3 when they could make it for 360 at max then port it over to ps3? as in this i mean the ps3 has potential for the better looking games , but the developers make the games to the highest potential 360, then port them over to the ps3 so its easier for them, which might mess with it. They could use the blu ray discs but its pointless making it on 2 layers of disc if your going to port it over to 360. So if there making it on 360 its going to be better i think, at least from what iv seen from game spot comparisons. And the developers are used to it more with the year head start. but idk... thats why i wanted to see what everyone said...
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i don't think playstation's controller is better than the 360 controller...
See, this one I'll argue with. I absolutely HATE the 360 controllers. Feels very awkward and bulky to me. Just can't get used to it at all. And with the motion detection of the Sixaxis and Dual Shock rumble, I have to completely disagree.
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See, this one I'll argue with. I absolutely HATE the 360 controllers. Feels very awkward and bulky to me. Just can't get used to it at all. And with the motion detection of the Sixaxis and Dual Shock rumble, I have to completely disagree.
takes some time, but eventually it becomes very nice...
having the triggers is awesome too, much better for fps...
now the first xbox controller? i'm with you, it was too bulky... they really did a good job with the 360's to slim it down and make the feel for it better... it's some kind of soft plastic or whatever...
both controllers aren't bad, i just think the 360's better for first person shooters...
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I got a 360 one of the $ 299 ones. Turning out to be a GREAT decision.
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EA has favored the PS3 in lead development for a while now, they were at first using the 360 as the lead platform on Army of Two but when they switch to using the Unreal Engine they also switch to the PS3 as the lead developer.
EA's Criterion studio's used the PS3 as the lead platform for Burnout Paradise and now they are using the PS3 as the lead platform for Madden.
Here is the article I read on the decisions to do so.
Article talking about why Devs would start with the PS3 first
Article stating Army of Two was built on PS3 first
Article saying PS3 is lead platform
I'll try and find the Madden article that I read.
The 360 right now is far better than the overall PS3 experience. At E3 Sony’s biggest announcements were Resistance 2 (which looks sweet) and upgrades to the online store. Those upgrades are renting movies, watching TV shows and enhanced music and video capabilities, all pieces that 360 Live had in place a year ago.
On the flipside, I think Sony case for long term playability, and a piece that the media focused on was that the PS3 was designed as a 10 year console, there are arguments whether the 360 will be able to keep up with the increasing hardware demands of games moving into the next 3 years or so. Microsoft may have to develop a new console in 5 years while the PS3 continues piling on sweet game after game that the current 360 won’t be able to match.
Xbox Live is still a million times better than the PS3 network, hands down.
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The 360 right now is far better than the overall PS3 experience. At E3 Sony’s biggest announcements were Resistance 2 (which looks sweet) and upgrades to the online store. Those upgrades are renting movies, watching TV shows and enhanced music and video capabilities, all pieces that 360 Live had in place a year ago.
Sony won E3 and had far better annoucements than just Resistance 2. Also Live is 7 years old now, PSN is not even 2 years old yet and they are catching up to the capabilities of Live very quickly. And it's still free as well.
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Live is better but a million times better? No it's not. And like I said before Live is 7 years old now.
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"winning e3" is a pretty dumb statement.
e3 is always overrated, games that get hyped up to be awesome, tend to not always turn out to be what you think (assasin's creed, anyone?)
360's online is superior right now, there is no doubt about that.
there is no guarantee that the psn ends up being anywhere close to microsoft's live, considering sony has already swing and missed on online play.
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"winning e3" is a pretty dumb statement.
e3 is always overrated, games that get hyped up to be awesome, tend to not always turn out to be what you think (assasin's creed, anyone?)
You totally missed the point of the comment. If Sony won E3 (according to all gaming sites including the BBC and Yahoo Games) and all they had was "Resisstance 2, then what does that say about the other two shows?
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Again I disagree with this statement. How did they swing and miss? What the PS2? The PS2 wasn't designed for online play, that's why the network adapter was a add on unit. But with that being said the online worked just fine so I'm not sure on what you mean about swinging and missing.
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Xbox Live is still a million times better than the PS3 network, hands down.
I can actually make the case that ps3 online is better. I dont play my ps3 all thta much, im still only 18% done with GTA and when I rent games, I never beat them, unless i really like the game.
So when i play online, I get my rear handed to me in whatever game I play. You have these people that play games religiously and I just get destroyed. No fun, so I raley play online. I owuld never pay 50 or 60 bucks/year to play online because I very rarely do it.
So for the thousands of gamers like me, PS3 online is better.
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Wait a second, so because you suck, that makes the PS3's online service better? 
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for me and thousands of other gamers.
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for me and thousands of other gamers.
yep.
It doesnt make their service better because you suck.
It may be more convenient for you because you don’t have to pay, but YOU sucking has no affect on THEIR service.
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e3 is always overrated, games that get hyped up to be awesome, tend to not always turn out to be what you think (assasin's creed, anyone?)
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Again I disagree with this statement. How did they swing and miss? What the PS2? The PS2 wasn't designed for online play, that's why the network adapter was a add on unit. But with that being said the online worked just fine so I'm not sure on what you mean about swinging and missing.
again, winning e3 doesn't do a whole lot. that's like saying a football team was a winner on draft day, because honestly, nobody really knows.
and again, ps2's online network was complete and total garbage.
which is why i said they swung and missed with online play.
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But if you sucked at video games it wouldnt be garbage.
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e3 is always overrated, games that get hyped up to be awesome, tend to not always turn out to be what you think (assasin's creed, anyone?)
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there is no guarantee that the psn ends up being anywhere close to microsoft's live, considering sony has already swing and missed on online play.
Again I disagree with this statement. How did they swing and miss? What the PS2? The PS2 wasn't designed for online play, that's why the network adapter was a add on unit. But with that being said the online worked just fine so I'm not sure on what you mean about swinging and missing.
again, winning e3 doesn't do a whole lot. that's like saying a football team was a winner on draft day, because honestly, nobody really knows.
and again, ps2's online network was complete and total garbage.
which is why i said they swung and missed with online play.
I had a long post replying to this but when I hit enter I got an error message that the thread was no longer valid and I lost my entire reply.
I'll short hand it.
PS2 was not desinged for online play, but the Xbox was. It wasn't until after the Xbox came out that they introduced the network adapter, but that's all they were able to do because the PS2 was not designed for it. That's why it was left up the game developers to incorperate it into the game. That's the best they could do becasue the xbox had live, and they had to do something.
That being said I played Socom 1/2/3/CA, Maden 06/07, ESPN NFL 2k5, EQOA and Final Fantasy 11 and had little to no problem. So where it didn't match Live, it was no way shape or form garbage.
The rest of my post had to do with a comparison of Live and the current form of PSN that I don't have time to redo now, but the gist of my post was to show that Live is indeed better but the PSN is not far behind already.
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As far as it will be known all 3rd party games will go on the ps3 and 360 so it really comes down to exclusives. In my mind 360 has better ones, and I have been paying attention to the main game websites and from what I see they say e3 wasn’t good this year and it’s moving on to Leipzig and the Tokyo game show. Those 2 are now more important then e3 ( I also saw that Microsoft won e3 from gaming websites –which I think would count more if it mattered-). And with games like gears of war 2 and fable 2 it was no question to what system I would buy. In 3 years the ps3 will go down in price so if I really were to want one I could pick one up for the price of about a ps2, if I really wanted to play there exclusive games.
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It doesnt make their service better because you suck.
ummm for me, the playstation online service is better than microsofts
im not sure what we are missing here 
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