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I would have liked to have watched the "Energy Policy Meeting" that was closed. Cheney and all of the oil executives setting our "energy policy". That might have been rich.  Or the meeting where Bush decided to commute Scooters sentence. 
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Keep your babbling up, Pit. I am sure that there was some understanding that weaponry would advance. In fact, I am sure that they DIDN'T comprehend a time when there wouldn't be weapons kept by citizens. Now, can you HONESTLY say that when penning the Constitution, ANYONE envisioned a contraption that would allow two people to have a conversation from milres away? Keep comparing apples to oranges. It's the best way for you to keep pretending you have a point. Oh, and YOU talking about someone using "rhetoric".  Still projecting and using hypocrisy. How many years will you continue these weak "debating" tactics.
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So you refuse to address the question? If you can fire 30 rounds semi-automaticly from an assult rifle and 17 rounds semi automaticly from a pistol, why not also ban the pistols? Is it the 13 more rounds? The range? You see, there are weapons designed to "kill people". You wouldn't use a Ruger P-89 or a Glock 17 to hunt with. These guns are made with the purpose of "killing people". So wouldn't you categorize them ALL as "assult weapons"? It's a very basic question and concept Coach. You have stated that you support banning "assult rifles". Why not "assult pistols" as well? What is the purpose of a S&W snub nosed 38? Deer hunting? Just wondering why you choose "one assult weapon" and not others? An SKS, SKS AK, an AK47 etc.... are no more weapons to "kill people" than is a Ruger P89 or a Glock 17. So why do you promote banning one without the others and where and why do you "draw those lines"? Could you please aim at the question instead of the questioner?
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I answered the question, Pit. You choose to ignore the answer so you can stand on your soap box. I answered that IN MY OPINION that automatic weapsns should be banned. That covers my stance.
I also answered the actual QUESTION you had about the founding fathers. So, continue to spew your garbage. You're only making yourself look foolish, though you pretend otherwise.
Oh, and handguns have been around for a long time. They aren't for hunting. I never claimed to only endorse bearing arms for hunting. That's your own little delusional world where you put words in other people's mouths, as usual.
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Yes, after using the term "assult weapon", finaly in the middle of "page 3" you defined it. 
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That was because you kept jumping around. Same crap, different day from you, Pit. 
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Pit has a point. What IS an "assult" weapon? Different people have different "interpritations". We can all "except" that an "assult" weapon is usually not meant for hunting, "accept" the gun nuts. The definition of an "assult" weapon is hard to "sale" to everyone, but rest assured, Bush is behind it if there's a problem.
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Sadly, any point that Pit might have is deluded by his rambling efforts to ridicule that don't completely agree with him. He asked several questions and I answered them. Instead of discussing it, he keeps rambling. Of course there is different interpretations of an "assault" weapon. I happen to think that anything that is an automatic or a weapon not used for hunting is an assault weapon. Of course, Pit will post as soon as the library opens about how Bush is evil and how he allows this because his buddies are manufacturers of such weapons or some other hairbrained conspiracy to blame him.
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I edited my post. See if it makes more sense to you now. " " " " " " "
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Sadly, any point that Pit might have is deluded by his rambling efforts to ridicule that don't completely agree with him. He asked several questions and I answered them. Instead of discussing it, he keeps rambling.
Of course there is different interpretations of an "assault" weapon. I happen to think that anything that is an automatic or a weapon not used for hunting is an assault weapon. Of course, Pit will post as soon as the library opens about how Bush is evil and how he allows this because his buddies are manufacturers of such weapons or some other hairbrained conspiracy to blame him.
Pit proposed some good questions that you didn't answer.
I see from your posts that an assault rifle is deemed ban appropriate, but what about a semi-automatic hand gun? The main purpose for those types of guns are not hunting.
Also, you call out Pit for repeatedly avoiding questions, but in every one of your posts that regard Pit you are constantly ragging on him personally. Your no different than the crap you spew about Pit.
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Why do people keep bringing up guns that aren't appropriate for hunting? I don't recall Coach ever saying that the only legal guns should be those used for hunting.... 
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LOL, obviously a newcomer to the boards that has missed Pit doing this to everyone for YEARS. You see, Pit is getting what he does to everyone. It's a reaction to years of his attacks and insults. It's really funny you jump in years after he has done this crap constanty to defend him. Notice arch and others regard Pit the same way. It's because his antics wore thin long ago. I did answer that question. Where did I say, or does the Constitution say, that arms have to be for hunting? I think a semi-automatic weapon should NOT be banned, as I stated previously, because everyone has a right to bear arms and to protect themselves.
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I haven't. That's the point.
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NRTU......
If you really want to get into what the forefathers were thinking...(did they imagine phones or automaitc weapons...etc....) explore this question.......What weapon at the time of the drafting were not allowed to be owned by a regular citizen? The simple answer is NONE. A citizen could own the top of the line weapon of the period. The could own the best made muzzle loader, Cannon, what have you. Whatever the military had...a citizen could own....The most powerful weapon on the planet????? A citzen could own it....
Now I am not advocating that every citizen should be allowed to own and carry M16's, RPG's or even nukes...........But a logical and abstract argument could be made that if a citizen could show and prove that he or she had the proper resources, responsibility, and morality to own and care for a particular weapon (and in the case of a nuke that would take some mighty big convincing...lol)....why shouldn't they be alowed to have it?
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
What's the use of wearing your lucky rocketship underpants if nobody wants to see them????
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That's a very good point. Of course, it will be ignored, but it was a good point.
Add to that the fact that the forefathers also had spies during their time of war. Hmmmm, wonder if they had a warrant.
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Pit will post as soon as the library opens about how Bush is evil and how he allows this because his buddies are manufacturers of such weapons or some other hairbrained conspiracy to blame him.
Sorry, but WRONG again!
I'm all for non regulation of weapons. And the GOP usually shares my views on this one.
But keep jabbing.
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Why do people keep bringing up guns that aren't appropriate for hunting? I don't recall Coach ever saying that the only legal guns should be those used for hunting....
The term "assult weapon" was used until the middle of page three "twice" by Coach. So I simply wondered what his definition of "assult weapon" was. Finaly, on page three, he defined it as "fully automatic weapons".
Main Entry: assault rifle
Function: noun
Date: 1972
: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault+rifle
Everyone it appears, uses the term, but to Coach, it means something "different than the dictionary".
So I asked why and where he "drew the line" on what was or was not an assult weapon "to him"? To "him" it's a fully automatic weapon ONLY.
While I have yet not been told why he feels this way or how he came to that conclusion.
I've been told everything else under the sun, but that.
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You are so pathetic it is laughable. You argue just to see your name on the screen. I have made my positions quite clear. You just need something to try to argue about. Keep your pathetic crap up, Pit. Everyone except Chief knows you and your tactics.....and as he watches the political threads a little more, he will, too. I have explained over and over what I think of gun control. You say you are against gun control, but continue to rant because you want something to argue about.
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LOL, obviously a newcomer to the boards that has missed Pit doing this to everyone for YEARS. You see, Pit is getting what he does to everyone. It's a reaction to years of his attacks and insults. It's really funny you jump in years after he has done this crap constanty to defend him. Notice arch and others regard Pit the same way. It's because his antics wore thin long ago.
I did answer that question. Where did I say, or does the Constitution say, that arms have to be for hunting? I think a semi-automatic weapon should NOT be banned, as I stated previously, because everyone has a right to bear arms and to protect themselves.
Okay thanks for answering my question.
You may have already answered it, and I apologize if I missed the answer in a prior post. But when most of your posts are geared at insulting Pit; most of the other things you write in the same post can be missed whether they be great points or not.
Oh, and not a new comer, I was registered on the old board before the Browns site was re-made. Just read much more than I type. Also, had some problems logging in a while back on this site and had to create a new email to join this site. Its just my opinion, but I try not to stoop to the levels of others no matter how long they've been stooping low. Thats the only reason I made a comment about you and Pit's relationship.
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I will answer your question again so you don't have to look for it. There is a diffference IMO between a semi-automatic hand gun and an AK47. One CAN be used for hunting, as I've seen people do it, but that's not the point. I never restricted the right to bear arms to hunting. I'm not sure where you got that point. I believe a person has a right to own a handgun for protection. I believe that is what the founding fathers were referring to when they penned the Constitution. However, I think there needs to be regulations put in place, not a banning of them. A semi-automatic handgun provides safety in a reasonable manner IMO. An automatic is not reasonable, IMO, and no more reasonable for protection than an RPG.
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Awe, thanks for clearing that up for me. I have to completely agree with your response.
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