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Bentley seems to have missed something very basic in all of this: These aren't the same sad-sack Browns he signed onto. He had a choice to earn a spot on a strong team, or whore himself out to weakass wanna-be who'd give him everything he wants.




You would think that the prospect of starting on a line as strong as ours has become would be even more incentive to want to play for us. After all, what makes an Oline look better than a QB who never gets sacked and a RB who puts up 1500? Instead of playing with four other skilled linemen, if he lands anywhere it will probably be a team where he will be one of the better guys on the Oline and he'll have to shoulder more of the load. If that's the case and he doesn't perform spectacularly, it will just simply be a case of "LCB tried to come back from a career-threatening injury but just fell short".

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I am with the Clemster on this one. I think he shanked it no matter how well I understand it is a "Business thing" on his part which I am OK with. A decent agent would have recognized Clem's point and acknowledged them, and he would have seen he no longer wrangled a starter of proven ability. Now if it was an indignant, nasty, ego-dripping self-righteous affair, then hit the bricks, not the sled. We need a good dose of ego poison in Berea like CH needs a few more arrests or something worse.


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So... LeCharles Bentley is still unsigned. Pretty odd at this point. I am wondering if his playing skills are gone or his knee is dead. Maybe we went along with the story of "he asked for his own release" so it looked like he had skills left. Perhaps the Browns were going to cut him anyway and we just went along with his story for his benefit, as if he could play for somebody else... What do you all think? I have a feeling his career is over.

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I think that's as plausible as anything else, especially considering he is unemployed at this time.


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Possible, it's also possible teams are set and he won't get any feelers until an injury makes it necessary for a team to call him.


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It's also possible his asking price is way too high for someone who is damaged good and hasnt played in two years and still hasnt proven they can play.

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Not only possible, might be a given... if his price were reasonable, he might be in camp somewhere... unless as was stated, he's too hurt to go. Odd though that he walked away supposedly because he wasn't given a starter spot, yet hasn't found a place to land as even a backup... Team need, the injury, the money... Now that I think about it, of the three, maybe it is the injury that's keeping him from signing somewhere.


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most of these guys seem believe that they're immortal and invulnerable to the things that normal people are. knowing the mentality of these guys, my guess is that he really believes that he's not lost a step, that he's good enough to start on any line in the league, and that he deserves the appropriate kind of treatment and a contract reflecting that. i think perhaps he's a little resentful to the Browns for moving on without him, and resentful that anyone would suggest he might be anything less than what he once was. i think he's out to prove that he's the same player he used to be, and i feel it's going to be a tough negotiation for any team interested in signing hime. i also believe teams realize not only this, but also that it is possible that this injury may bear lingering effects on his performance. though i am disappointed in the events that have transpired, i do not fault LeCharles for any of this; i wish him well. it's just a bad situation all over. i do not believe there is some underlying story here.


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Well, it looks like someone was actually interested in signing Bentley. Too bad he turned it down because he felt that a guy who hasn't played in well over 2 years, tore his patellar tendon and had a serious staph infection is worth more money than that.

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Tuesday August 12, 2008, 12:30 PM
The once-great center LeCharles Bentley was at Allen Park today to visit with Detroit Lions officials and even came out to watch a little bit of the morning workout.

Before undergoing four surgeries on his leg in the last two years, Bentley was considered one of the most dominant centers in the NFL. Bentley, who recently asked for his release from the Cleveland Browns (which was granted), is trying to make a comeback.

A source close to the situation said the Lions had a good visit with Bentley, but the team is not interested in signing him.

According to PFT, a contract was offered, but he rejected it.


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Watch the Bungles go for him.


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Wait, so the Lions were willing to offer him a contract, but he turned it down?


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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/12/lions-offered-lecharles-a-deal/

The Lions reportedly weren’t interested in signing free-agent LeCharles Bentley. Apparently, they weren’t interested in signing Bentley because he wasn’t interested in accepting the contract that the team wanted him to sign.

A league source tells us that the Lions actually offered Bentley a one-year deal worth in excess of $1 million, and that Bentley passed.

As we understand it, several teams are interested in Bentley, but the prevailing attitude is that he should sign a one-year deal for relatively low money in order to prove that he’s healthy. Bentley is looking for more.

Whether he’ll get it or not remains to be seen.


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I think Bentley is waiting for a big injury so a team will need a guard or center and he can get more than the veteran's minimum. Same thing Ty Law is doing, but unlike Law I don't think this is very smart because the money won't be that much different and there's no guarantee he'll play more than a few games if he signs during the season. Bentley should take the vet minimum now and hope that he plays well enough that a team will want to give him more money in the offseason.


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You have to be kidding me. If I'm this guy, I sign whatever contract comes along, eager to prove that I can play. If he plays up to the level he thinks he can play to, a huge contract will be waiting for 2009.


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You have to be kidding me. If I'm this guy, I sign whatever contract comes along, eager to prove that I can play. If he plays up to the level he thinks he can play to, a huge contract will be waiting for 2009.




I have to agree with you ...WTH is he thinking?

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He's thinking "I want one big fat chunk of up-front signing bonus type guaranteed money because after that one year, I'm not getting signed anywhere again, ever".


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You have to be kidding me. If I'm this guy, I sign whatever contract comes along, eager to prove that I can play. If he plays up to the level he thinks he can play to, a huge contract will be waiting for 2009.




I have to agree with you ...WTH is he thinking?




He is thinking $$$ folks. Bentley. Number 00.

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Wait, so the Lions were willing to offer him a contract, but he turned it down?




According to a different site, he was offered about a million for a year contract, and it was turned down. I didn't post it because I know they frown on things from PFT around here, though they're pretty much on target.


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Unbelievable. I keep thinking to myself that he isn't really being this stupid. I still want to live the dream that he'll play for us and be who we thought he was going to be. So disappointing.

He's an idiot. If he had just sucked it up and humble himself a bit, he'd be our starting right tackle right now.

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He's an idiot. If he had just sucked it up and humble himself a bit, he'd be our starting right tackle right now.





I hope you mean right guard. I've never heard of him playing a tackle position.

On a goofy note, He's still listed witht he team in Madden09


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He's thinking "I want one big fat chunk of up-front signing bonus type guaranteed money because after that one year, I'm not getting signed anywhere again, ever".
Well his situation was better here..at least HE WAS ON THE TEAM....all he had to do was go with the flow..he could have been worked into the unit..

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What pisses me off is that they paid him $15 million and he doesn't even have the decency to prove he is capable of still playing. Instead, he hears he has to compete and he bails.

He'll be lucky if anyone offers him much more than vet minimum without proving he is even capable yet.


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Yup, I think we all echo your sentiment FloridaFan.

All the guy had to do was suck it up and compete here. If he's at the level he thinks he is, he wins a starting job with no problem. Instead, he runs, which casts a TON of doubt on his abilities.

Now, he's turning down a contract because he wants a lot of money up front? Teams are going to see that as desperation, that he realizes he isn't healed (and may never be) and needs that money up front.

I'd be really surprised if a team even shows interest in him now, unless it's a truly desperate situation.


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All the guy had to do was suck it up and compete here.




There had to be more too it in his mind.. I don't think Bentley is the kind that shys away from competition, but it''s pretty clear that there was some other issues almost from the moment after he was injured.

Seemed to me that there was some bad blood flying around then.. It also appears to have festered to the point of no return..


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Maybe he wanted more money to play in Detroit, but would take less elsewhere.

Detroit is not exactly the best team to play for. Trust me, I live there.




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No, it definitely isn't... but I think he is letting his pride and ego keep him from getting back on the horse.

Or he is just getting some truly horrible advice from his agent.


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He trying to sell a vehicle that has been up on cinder blocks for 2 years for a new car price.


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i was soo dissapointed when he asked for a release after the browns have been so patient with the situation, most other clubs would work out a stettlment with a player before giving them the time that our FO has given him. It made me sad,and slightly question how bady he really wanted to play here.


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I believe that the decision to let him go was mutual. JMHO


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Rams check out Bentley, ex-Pro Bowl lineman
By Jim Thomas
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08/25/2008

Former Pro Bowl offensive lineman LeCharles Bentley, who has not played the past two seasons because of knee problems, was headed to St. Louis for a visit with the Rams and a physical Monday.

Bentley, 28, earned two Pro Bowl berths for New Orleans, starting 57 games at guard and center for the Saints between 2002-05. But after signing a six-year, $36 million free agent contract with his hometown Cleveland Browns in 2006, Bentley has not played another NFL game.

Bentley tore the patellar tendon in his left knee at the start of training camp that year. Complications developed, including a staph infection, and three more operations were needed. Doctors at one point considered amputating the leg.

Cleared to practice with the Browns in June, Bentley asked for and was granted his release.

If healthy, Bentley could provide a boost for the Rams at center or guard. The Rams currently have Nick Leckey and Brett Romberg competing for the starting spot at center. Romberg has been sidelined for the past couple of weeks with a broken hand.

The guard position suffered a blow when Mark Setterstrom suffered a season-ending knee injury Aug. 16 against San Diego.

It is not clear if the Rams are just checking out Bentley, or are intent on signing him if he passes his physical.

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Rams: Hey, good news, you passed your physical. Now you can compete for a spot at league minimum.

LCB: Cool... Wait, what? Oh no, that won't work for me. I need to be guaranteed a starting spot and I need me some millions. Haven't you heard? I was a pro-bowl player a few years ago.

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We gotta get this guy back . . . AFTER a monstrous reality flareup, and major dose of judgment, swallowing of pride and a triple-shunt ego bypass. We were (obviously in hindsight) too generous with what was paid over time versus what was PLAYED over that period. But class is hard to purchase; seems like an ingrate at this point. If we pick him up at cheap money, or reasonable, OK. And if he can bring himself to carry some heart to the Pound on the Pond. But no projects, please. If he expects Cadiilac treatment for "marginalized" and unproven goods, then fuhgeddabouddit! Vitamin Pine and a sideline implant may be just what is needed. We can't be like the Oakie Braiders and run an elephants' graveyard for those whose careers are wandering off to die. JMO


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I think that Bridge has been burnt.

Bentley also simply is not the same OLman we signed 2 years ago...when we released him we read that 10 teams were interested in him....But he is not on a team...this when teams carry 14 OLmen in TCamp - NOBODY signed him.

Does anyone really think he can provide depth and impact in the NFL? I think he's done. Its a shame but at least the Browns were a standup team and carried him for 2 seasons paying him Millions and then bought him out of his contract before releasing him. At least he didn't retire a pauper.

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I think that Bridge has been burnt.




No doubt.

He could all of a sudden be better than ever and I don't think we would touch him, and I don't think he would sign here for any amount


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I've heard this bridge burning excuse before, didn't seem to stop Steven Jackson, Briggs, Chad Johnson, or Chris Henry from resigning with the same team after repeatedly saying they would never play for them again. In all cases Money cures all.


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I think that Bridge has been burnt.

Bentley also simply is not the same OLman we signed 2 years ago...when we released him we read that 10 teams were interested in him....But he is not on a team...this when teams carry 14 OLmen in TCamp - NOBODY signed him.





On top of that, his old team lost thier starting Center and still, they aren't calling,,,

Somehow, I get the feeling there is much much more to this that meets the eye.


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He could all of a sudden be better than ever and I don't think we would touch him, and I don't think he would sign here for any amount



Then we would be stupid.. if he suddenly proved he had returned to pre-injury form and we wouldn't sign him because of some moral stand or some perceived injustice... well that would be just about the dumbest thing I've ever seen...

And if we made him an offer, and we were the ONLY team to make him an offer, I'm betting he would take it. He isn't going to get his skills back or start rebuilding his reputation sitting on the couch at home or working out with the local high school team...


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