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Actually Cramps, I'll oblige to give you a grammar lesson. Being a future teacher an all its almost an obligation to the betterment of society. Granted, they should get to the difference between a noun and a verb by the time the folks in Baltimore drop out (5th grade?).

The word loss is a noun. This does in fact mean the definition that you posted. You were saying the Steelers did an action, which would constitute using a verb. The verb form of loss...is lost. So Shep was indeed right. You cant perform a noun, because they only denote something that is; not something that is being done.

Ex: I was reveling in the Steelers' loss. The Steelers possess the loss, its in their L column. Its a concrete thing. What action did they perform get that L, they lost the game, theres your verb. The verb tense is the action part of it, and you were describing an action.

Keep in mind prepositions make a difference. You inserted "fact" as the subject of the preposition "in" in your sentence. That is another possible mistake...commonly made by middle schoolers. In my above example "in" is a preposition and loss is the subject of that preposition. In your sentence you made "fact" the subject of your preposition; not loss.

Ex: I was reveling (in the fact) the Steelers loss. This is two complete thoughts connected with a prepositional phrase. Each complete thought needs a verb, which in this case would be; "was reveling" and lost. You would never say "The Steelers loss." It would be "The Steelers lost."

Owned by a rook, grammar smack isnt so fun when you are on the opposite end is it?


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Owned by a rook, grammar smack isnt so fun when you are on the opposite end is it?
Ex: I was reveling in the Steelers' loss. The Steelers possess the loss, its in their L column. Its a concrete thing. What action did they perform get that L, they lost the game, theres your verb. The verb tense is the action part of it, and you were describing an action.


I agree. Grammar smack isn't much fun when you are on the opposite end. Perhaps you can explain Mr. "Future teacher" why you used the word theres instead of THERE IS or THERE'S? <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I don't have to be a future teacher or teacher period to see your GRAMMATICAL MISTAKE! I believe there's is a contraction is it not? <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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I'd rather miss an apostrophe now and then, than not to be able to understand the difference between a noun or a verb. How much education do you have anyhow? High school? I'd imagine you didn't go to college.


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I'd rather miss an apostrophe now and then, than not to be able to understand the difference between a noun or a verb. How much education do you have anyhow? High school? I'd imagine you didn't go to college.


But Mr. Teacher you made a GRAMMATICAL ERROR NONETHELESS!! And you are a future teacher? Poor kids. And I would think I know the difference between a noun and verb. Let's see: A noun is a person, place or thing; while a verb modifies a noun. How is that Mr. Future Teacher? And worry about your own education. I'm sure you've never come across someone who used the word "your" when they meant "you're", or "to" when they meant "too". I see this all the time from individuals with a lot of education credentials. And so you know since you were asking, I'll have my MBA degree in May.

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And so you know since you were asking, I'll have my MBA degree in May.


WOW!! McDonald's Budding Assistant manager degree. McChumpy's moving on up. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />


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Indeed I have, but if you would have just admitted you typed an s instead of a t, I wouldn't have felt compelled to point out the difference between a noun and verb. Typing mistakes happen, but you were trying to say that typing "loss" in that sentence was correct, when it wasn't. No harm in admitting a simple mistake, it happens to the best of us.

I'm one of the most patient and understanding people around. I can accept that you made a simple typographical error, but there was no need to cover it up man...it's just a message board. Thus the reason I decided to point that out.

I know you are gonna say you smacked me or whatever. You've been on this board quite sometime spewing the same crap, that you are perfect and everything you say is gospel. I have an uncle just like you...it's alot easier to deal with you on this board then having to consistently correct him.


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Funny! And yes I will say I smacked you anytime you attempt to point out a grammatical mistake on my part then you turn around and make one yourself. And I believe everything I say is "gospel". Please show me where I've said or thought that. You have me mixed up with the "wannabe" Coach B.

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WOW!! McDonald's Budding Assistant manager degree. McChumpy's moving on up.


You would think this. I see with Cleveland being the poorest big city in the U.S., this obviously extends to their education as well.

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The question is do you know the difference between disappointment and failure? Apparently, you do not. The Ravens not winning in the playoffs or making it to the SB in my opinion was very disappointing.


**sigh** What is the goal of every NFL team each year? To have a very good season then choke in the playoffs? Or is it to win the Lombardi? You see the minute your team folded against the Colts your team FAILED to meet its ultimate objective. So it was not only disappointing, it was also a failure.

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How do you minimize or downplay the fact that they had a very successful season culminating in a 13-3 record and winning the AFC North rather easily?


Why wouldn't I? It's obvious winning the division crown is vastly over rated. Ask the Bungles. What did that get them two years ago? A one and done just like you. If you feel so adamant about it, maybe I should ask you, Why did YOU minimize the Steelers 2004 season when we finished 15-1 and won the Afc North by SWEEPING the entire division? Unlike you we won a playoff game. With rookie Qb. You called our team a failure. So I am just holding your team to the same standard.

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And have fun thinking the Steelers "own" the Ravens. You have the all-time series head-to-head record - for now. I don't call 14-9 (including 1-0 in the playoffs) as owning us


I do. We have beat you more than you beat us. Henceforth - Rats = Owned.

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And congrats to the Colts! We loss at home after having a bye. So what slappy! The Chargers who many considered the best team in the NFL this year ALSO loss at home in the playoffs after having a bye to the Pats. I guess me having to endure the Ravens losing at home wasn't quite as painful as you watching the Steelers losing not once but twice AT HOME in the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP in 2001 and 2004 to the Patriots huh? I guess those BYES then did not do the Steelers a damn bit of good either.


To even see two Afc Championships you have to win your first game. When was the last time your team did that? oops. Afcnorthchamps fall down and go boom.
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**sigh** What is the goal of every NFL team each year? To have a very good season then choke in the playoffs? Or is it to win the Lombardi? You see the minute your team folded against the Colts your team FAILED to meet its ultimate objective. So it was not only disappointing, it was also a failure.


Thanks for pointing out the obvious! I also mentioned the goal of all 32 NFL teams is to win it all. This does not mean in my eyes that because the Ravens did not win the "big game", that their season was a failure. A disappointment yes, a failure no.

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Why wouldn't I? It's obvious winning the division crown is vastly over rated. Ask the Bungles. What did that get them two years ago? A one and done just like you. If you feel so adamant about it, maybe I should ask you, Why did YOU minimize the Steelers 2004 season when we finished 15-1 and won the Afc North by SWEEPING the entire division? Unlike you we won a playoff game. With rookie Qb. You called our team a failure. So I am just holding your team to the same standard.


Winning your division is hardly overrated. Winning your division makes you the hunted next season. Winning your division could also potentially lure big name free-agents or add that missing piece or two to get your team over the hump. Plus, winning your division fosters renewed confidence going into the following season. And I did not minimize what the Steelers did in 2004. Not many teams have accomplished what they did. I can only think of two team who had a better season and that would be the "72" Dolphins who of course went undefeated that year, and the "85" Bears who also went 15-1. And slappy? Your 2004 Steelers DID NOT sweep the entire division that year. Their only lost came at the hands of the Ravens - Thanks for playing though. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> And good the Steelers won a playoff game. Unfortunately, that is all they won. And for the last time, I did not call the Steelers a failure by my recollection.

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I do. We have beat you more than you beat us. Henceforth - Rats = Owned.


Henceforth you are clueless! I guess the next time the Browns and Steelers play, whoever wins that game owns the other considering the all-time record I believe is tied 55-55. So, if the Steelers win and go up 56-55, I guess they own the Browns right? You're sad boy! Sad!!

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To even see two Afc Championships you have to win your first game. When was the last time your team did that? oops. Afcnorthchamps fall down and go boom.


Well, the one time the Ravens saw an AFC championship, they WON IT! And the last time the Ravens won a playoff game was 2001. They beat the Dolphins.

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What you have been doing since 2001 is getting banned from this and the old message board on a regular basis because you have no game, and you get your ass handed to you by everybody. There I told the truth for you since you can't.


And that is all you got?? ROTFLMFAO!! That I get banned? Well, braniac are "bannings" just something that happens to me? If you believe this, you need to talk to your boy Coach B. LOL!! And even on the old dawg talk board, bannings happened. Weak!! Much like your sorry team. And believe me, I more then have enough "game" for you or anyone else. I find it hilarious that all of you Clownie need to all take me on at the same time, and you all still can't handle me. What you all resort to are nothing more then personal attacks on me, smack talk about Baltimore city, and reveling when the Ravens do lose because we all know your joke of a team damn sure can't get the job done. You all have NOTHING when it comes to smack talk on the Ravens. Why? Because you all are FREAKEN fans of one of the WORST franchise in professional sports - the Cleveland Browns. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />
Drivel Drivel and Yet MORE DRIVEL from Chumps. Tell you this much Chimpy, I'd rather not make the PO's, than see my team go ONE & DONE after Great expectations. ONE & FREAKIN DONE CRAMPS . 13 & 3 season, First round bye, home field and ONE AND DONE. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

Say what you will cramps, but its like I've been telling you, theres NO way out of ONE & DONE!! At least we went deep in the PO's for most of Cowher's tenure here, But ONE & DONE with all the pain that goes with it is down right embarrassing and painful no doubt. Talk about the Steelers off season all you want, when all that counts where your concerned is ONE & DONE . I'll be rubbing this fact in your Psyche till Training camp so quit trying to run <img src="/images/graemlins/plthumbsdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

Oh and Cramps, the 2 big wins you registered against us last season is No precursor that your criminals will do the same in 07. Matter of fact, I'd bet on it. Anyhow, for Now and the Future, ONE & DONE gives me GREAT pleasure. OHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

To see the Painful, Soul wrenching pain on the faces of the Remaining Criminal Fans after the game, gave me tons of pleasure as with each panning shot, i thought of you. Why? ONE & DONE PAL. ONE & FREAKING DONE . Ahhhhhhhhhhh, somehow that never seems to get old.

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Remember Cramps, Not a single solitray thing you can say to me that would Negate whats become known as the infamouse ONE & DONE of the promising Baltimore Criminals. 13 & 3 Season with Super Bowl aspirations Down the freakin Drain. Now NO ONE Remembers your season, No one cares. OHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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You say I don't have enough game for all of you, yet I've been here since 2001 on the old/new board. YOU LOSE!

You don't have enough game for ANY of us. Your a proven liar, you have been owned by almost everybody who posts in the shack, and you have been banned more than anybody else. Why??? Because you have no game crampy. As for being around since 2001, just how many months of that time have you been banned <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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You deny that all of you find the need to respond to almost each and everything I post?

I respond to all trolls that attempt to talk smack, and that includes you. You see crampy your easy to smack around, and I can pull your strings and make you dance whenever I choose. I own you cramps. I am your master.

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Since 1999

Since 1999 <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> pssst cramps the Browns have been around since long before 1999. <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> If I were to use your way of thinking I could say...

The Ravens never even won a single game before 1996.
The Ravens never won a playoff game before 1996.
The Ravens never won a championship before 1996.
The Ravens never had a single pro bowl player before 1996.

Now dance my little wooden doll, dance for us.


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Thanks for pointing out the obvious! I also mentioned the goal of all 32 NFL teams is to win it all. This does not mean in my eyes that because the Ravens did not win the "big game", that their season was a failure. A disappointment yes, a failure no.


I pointed it out because its obvious it needed it. You failed to meet your goal. Everybody but the Colts failed to meet their ultimate goal. Just because in your eyes it does not mean much because you are giddy over your Afc North Champs manpons and could care less about winning it all does not mean your team still failed.

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Winning your division is hardly overrated. Winning your division makes you the hunted next season. Winning your division could also potentially lure big name free-agents or add that missing piece or two to get your team over the hump


Really? You think that much of it? I guess when you win so few it's a big deal. You sound just like the Bungle fans last season. Who cares about just winning the division? Tell me this, what is more important? Winning your division, or winning a playoff game?

Also what lures big name free agents is not a bag full of 2006 Afc North Champs gear. It's money.

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Henceforth you are clueless! I guess the next time the Browns and Steelers play, whoever wins that game owns the other considering the all-time record I believe is tied 55-55. So, if the Steelers win and go up 56-55, I guess they own the Browns right? You're sad boy! Sad!!


That is correct. Until we actually leveled the record the Clowns have hung on to the overall better record as smack. We do Own the Rats historically. Live with it.

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And I did not minimize what the Steelers did in 2004.


Let me ask you something. Why would I bring this up? I have been on the old Clowns board since 2001. I have seen you post all of the time. We have never actually engaged each other prior to his exchange. I have no agenda, and I have no bias. After our 15-1 season you called us a failure because we did not get to the ultimate goal. Your team did it. Hell your name is WORLDCHAMPS. At first I thought it was crazy. But then I realized maybe I was setting my bar to low. Anything short of being WORLDCHAMPS is indeed a failure. Imagine my shock when the roles were reversed, you changed your stance. Why?

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Your 2004 Steelers DID NOT sweep the entire division that year.
You are correct. My mistake. I was thinking of 2002.

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And the last time the Ravens won a playoff game was 2001.


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Drivel Drivel and Yet MORE DRIVEL from Chumps. Tell you this much Chimpy, I'd rather not make the PO's, than see my team go ONE & DONE after Great expectations. ONE & FREAKIN DONE CRAMPS . 13 & 3 season, First round bye, home field and ONE AND DONE.


LIAR!! Moving on.

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Say what you will cramps, but its like I've been telling you, theres NO way out of ONE & DONE!! At least we went deep in the PO's for most of Cowher's tenure here, But ONE & DONE with all the pain that goes with it is down right embarrassing and painful no doubt. Talk about the Steelers off season all you want, when all that counts where your concerned is ONE & DONE . I'll be rubbing this fact in your Psyche till Training camp so quit trying to run


Now, I'll play your silly juvenile game since you like this "one & done" stuff so much. Uh hem: I'd rather go ONE & DONE in the playoffs then to lose not one but TWO AFC CHAMPIONSHIPS in my own backyard. Now that is truly pathetic!! <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I still remember the story back in 2001, when Steelers fans were buying SB tickets and heading to New Orleans before that AFC champioship game was even played. Steelers fans just knew that the Steelers would beat the Patriots. Well, we all know how that turned out huh Steel? LMAO!! And because you brilliant fans could not get your money back for the hotels that you all booked, Steelers fans had no choice but to go down to New Orleans. To quote a sports reporter. "Steeler fans went to New Orleans in droves. It was like watching cattle moving along aimlessly in the streets." <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Oh and Cramps, the 2 big wins you registered against us last season is No precursor that your criminals will do the same in 07. Matter of fact, I'd bet on it. Anyhow, for Now and the Future, ONE & DONE gives me GREAT pleasure. OHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Good! I'm glad you are getting pleasure out of something. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> And I'll take you up on your little bet. It's hilarious how you had NO response to the point I brought up about your center retiring. Especially since at the time, you were making these comments about how old the Ravens are. LMAO!!

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You don't have enough game for ANY of us. Your a proven liar, you have been owned by almost everybody who posts in the shack, and you have been banned more than anybody else. Why??? Because you have no game crampy. As for being around since 2001, just how many months of that time have you been banned


Aww! wittle boy is angry! LMAO!! Again, slappy it does not take "much game" where fans of "team tragedy" is concerned. And trust me, your pathetic team, coaches, and organization are tragic in every sense of the word. And you keep looking at this ban thing as if it's some mark of shame. It's funny too me. I'm sorry you're so engrossed on this board that you think I give a flying you know what about being banned from what is in essence, a chat room. You can take this BS we throw at each other seriously, I don't. And as far as "banning" goes, ask yourself the obvious question. "Is WC here now"? <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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I respond to all trolls that attempt to talk smack, and that includes you. You see crampy your easy to smack around, and I can pull your strings and make you dance whenever I choose. I own you cramps. I am your master.


Translation: I NEED to respond because I am having my butt handed to me with cold hard facts and numbers regarding the pathetic team I root for. I need to get the last word and save face before I'm laughed completely off of this board. And you own me?? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> GM, you could not "own me" if your life depended on it. Now run a long and do what you do best. Import another picture of Pinocchio.

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Since 1999 pssst cramps the Browns have been around since long before 1999. If I were to use your way of thinking I could say...

The Ravens never even won a single game before 1996.
The Ravens never won a playoff game before 1996.
The Ravens never won a championship before 1996.
The Ravens never had a single pro bowl player before 1996.

Now dance my little wooden doll, dance for us.


I understand you are mentally challenged but this is ridiculous. Why do you think I focused on 1999? Hmmm. Could it be that is the year that BOTH the Ravens and Browns existed AT THE SAME TIME?? Thus the comparisons of our two respective teams would start there? Damn! That is all I can think to say. And I thought Coach B was a walking, talking waste of time.

And yes the Browns have been around before 1999. 1944 to be exact. What's your point? <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Do you REALLY want me to give you the numbers (wins/losses) of your illustrious team since the AFL/NFL merger that I believe took place in 1970?? Do you REALLY want to go there? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> I think you and other Clownie fans would be quite shocked.

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I pointed it out because its obvious it needed it. You failed to meet your goal. Everybody but the Colts failed to meet their ultimate goal. Just because in your eyes it does not mean much because you are giddy over your Afc North Champs manpons and could care less about winning it all does not mean your team still failed.


Again, learn the difference between failure and disappointment.

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Really? You think that much of it? I guess when you win so few it's a big deal. You sound just like the Bungle fans last season. Who cares about just winning the division? Tell me this, what is more important? Winning your division, or winning a playoff game?

Also what lures big name free agents is not a bag full of 2006 Afc North Champs gear. It's money.


When we win so few? LMAO!! Well, the Steelers are going on three years as the last time they won the division. So you're right about saying "when you win so few". And winning in the playoffs is more important then winning the division. Your point is what? I'm saying the Ravens season was not a failure; I'm not debating with you on winning what is more important. Try to stay on the subject slappy! <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

And lurring FA is all about money?? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! Just ask Clowns fans who tried to get Bart Scott and Trevor Pryce this past off-season. The Browns offered both those guys MORE MONEY then the Ravens and guess what? They BOTH came to Baltimore for less MONEY because of having a better chance of winning then in Cleveland. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> And to think I thought smacking Clowns fans was fun and easy. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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That is correct. Until we actually leveled the record the Clowns have hung on to the overall better record as smack. We do Own the Rats historically. Live with it.


Sad! Again Sad!! And I can live with the overall better record if you can live with 58-7 in two games last season. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Let me ask you something. Why would I bring this up? I have been on the old Clowns board since 2001. I have seen you post all of the time. We have never actually engaged each other prior to his exchange. I have no agenda, and I have no bias. After our 15-1 season you called us a failure because we did not get to the ultimate goal. Your team did it. Hell your name is WORLDCHAMPS. At first I thought it was crazy. But then I realized maybe I was setting my bar to low. Anything short of being WORLDCHAMPS is indeed a failure. Imagine my shock when the roles were reversed, you changed your stance. Why?


All I'll say to your mindless, redundant and boring dribble is I don't recall saying the season the Steelers had in 2004 was a "failure". As a matter of fact, YOU can't recall this either. All you are doing is playing follow the leader with everyone else who can't recall me saying this either. Nice! <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

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I think that both you, Christy and I need to have an intervention about this whole last season....It's over and done with.. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />..If you ask my opinion, NO ONE in the AFC North should be saying that they are winners when NO ONE in the AFC North won the SB. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />...Correct me if I am wrong but in order to win the "big one" you have to win it all? I am not saying this to be "sarcastic" but my team (Ravens) didn't win and that's the end of the whole who won or lost IMHO, but this whole thing about "one and done" and winning seasons are really "failures" is getting weaker and older by the hours....I guess what I am trying to say to ALL who continue this "back and forth semantics" about winning and losing is like both you and I GM fighting in the sand box for Christy's bathing suit <img src="/images/graemlins/naughtydevil.gif" alt="" /> (Adult sand box for you perverts out there).. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />....LET IT GO PEOPLE, LET IT GO............ <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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Drivel Drivel and Yet MORE DRIVEL from Chumps. Tell you this much Chimpy, I'd rather not make the PO's, than see my team go ONE & DONE after Great expectations. ONE & FREAKIN DONE CRAMPS . 13 & 3 season, First round bye, home field and ONE AND DONE.


LIAR!! Moving on.

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Say what you will cramps, but its like I've been telling you, theres NO way out of ONE & DONE!! At least we went deep in the PO's for most of Cowher's tenure here, But ONE & DONE with all the pain that goes with it is down right embarrassing and painful no doubt. Talk about the Steelers off season all you want, when all that counts where your concerned is ONE & DONE . I'll be rubbing this fact in your Psyche till Training camp so quit trying to run


Now, I'll play your silly juvenile game since you like this "one & done" stuff so much. Uh hem: I'd rather go ONE & DONE in the playoffs then to lose not one but TWO AFC CHAMPIONSHIPS in my own backyard. Now that is truly pathetic!! <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I still remember the story back in 2001, when Steelers fans were buying SB tickets and heading to New Orleans before that AFC champioship game was even played. Steelers fans just knew that the Steelers would beat the Patriots. Well, we all know how that turned out huh Steel? LMAO!! And because you brilliant fans could not get your money back for the hotels that you all booked, Steelers fans had no choice but to go down to New Orleans. To quote a sports reporter. "Steeler fans went to New Orleans in droves. It was like watching cattle moving along aimlessly in the streets." <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Oh and Cramps, the 2 big wins you registered against us last season is No precursor that your criminals will do the same in 07. Matter of fact, I'd bet on it. Anyhow, for Now and the Future, ONE & DONE gives me GREAT pleasure. OHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Good! I'm glad you are getting pleasure out of something. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> And I'll take you up on your little bet. It's hilarious how you had NO response to the point I brought up about your center retiring. Especially since at the time, you were making these comments about how old the Ravens are. LMAO!!
Make the BET Cramps NOW for ALL to see. You will lose yet ANOTHER one (think back to 03 on here) to me which will cause even more hysterical laughter where your concerned. What happened this past yr between our teams was a Once in a lifetime thing. To think that will continue is DELUSIONAL, which by the way has become your middle name in case you haven't noticed. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Yes Cramps, your team was a Total embarrassment to everyone associated with the North division. Why your Criminals didn't even get out of the gate. At least thats something we've had no problem with overall. You see, a REAL TEAM would have made it past round one, then if they would have lost in the 2nd or AFCCG game, we could say that gave it one heck of a try, just not good enough. Not so with your criminals, so the only thing left to say, which eats you up i might add add, is what really happened---

all together now--

CRIMINALS GO--ONE & DONE. ONE AND FREAKIN DONE LOL LOL
See Cramps, it just never grows old. Actually, it should become your theme song since fans in many NFL city takes great delight in saying----

ONE & DONE PAL. CRAMPS CRIMINALS WENT ONE & DONE !!!!!!!!!!
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LOL. Cant tell you what delight that saying gives me. Oh Ravooons, where is thy sting? LOL LOL. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Better quit now, have tears in my eyes from Laughing so hard as i find myself singing the new Criminal Hit-- ONE & DONE . <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

Hey GM, think we can get a copyright on that? LOL


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All I'll say to your mindless, redundant and boring dribble is I don't recall saying the season the Steelers had in 2004 was a "failure ". As a matter of fact, YOU can't recall this either. All you are doing is playing follow the leader with everyone else who can't recall me saying this either. Nice! <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />
Careful now Cramps, or you'll get caught in ANOTHER lie. Back then, i saved them all. As a matter of fact, on one of my other hard drives is a post by you saying exactly that. I'm going to take time in the next or so to find and post it. Then what Cramps, another lie to cover up? <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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Careful now Cramps, or you'll get caught in ANOTHER lie. Back then, i saved them all. As a matter of fact, on one of my other hard drives is a post by you saying exactly that. I'm going to take time in the next or so to find and post it.

I don't know which is worse.......Cramps' incessant re-posting of the same drivel over and over, (to go along with CoachBee's) or the fact that you have publilcy admitted that you save his drivel on a separate hard drive for reference.....

Yinz all need some serious psychiatric help. <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />

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Make the BET Cramps NOW for ALL to see. You will lose yet ANOTHER one (think back to 03 on here) to me which will cause even more hysterical laughter where your concerned. What happened this past yr between our teams was a Once in a lifetime thing. To think that will continue is DELUSIONAL, which by the way has become your middle name in case you haven't noticed.


Make what bet?? That what? The Ravens will sweep the Steelers again? Hell, it would not surprise me if they did. And I'm sure you would LOVE to think that was a once in a lifetime thing. Personally, I think it is a prelude of things to come. How hilarious is it that you are STILL talking about the Ravens beating the crap out of your joke of a team a couple of MONTHS later. LMAO!! What are you and Clown Hunter the second coming of Amos and Andy?? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Yes Cramps, your team was a Total embarrassment to everyone associated with the North division. Why your Criminals didn't even get out of the gate. At least thats something we've had no problem with overall. You see, a REAL TEAM would have made it past round one, then if they would have lost in the 2nd or AFCCG game, we could say that gave it one heck of a try, just not good enough. Not so with your criminals, so the only thing left to say, which eats you up i might add add, is what really happened---


<img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> Boy!! You are getting played like a cheap fiddle by me. Now, please tell me how a team that went 6-10 in 2005, win their division GOING AWAY in 2006 and made the playoffs with a 13-3 record, is more of an embarrassment then a team that went 11-5 in 2005, made the playoffs and won the SB; then comes back with an 8-8 record, THIRD place in the AFC North, and DOES NOT make the playoffs in 2006. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> But yet you call me DELUSIONAL?? LMAO!!

And your one & done theme is getting as bad and played out as your team was in two games by the Ravens. Try some new material.

BTW.. how is that search for a NEW CENTER going? You know since Hartings decided to RETIRE!! I guess he was just too damn old to play anymore huh? <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Careful now Cramps, or you'll get caught in ANOTHER lie. Back then, i saved them all. As a matter of fact, on one of my other hard drives is a post by you saying exactly that. I'm going to take time in the next or so to find and post it. Then what Cramps, another lie to cover up?



Wow!! You hear this folks?? This guy SAVES ALL POSTINGS from a football message board. Need I really have to say more?? DAMN!! Talk about someone needing a life! <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Careful now Cramps, or you'll get caught in ANOTHER lie. Back then, i saved them all. As a matter of fact, on one of my other hard drives is a post by you saying exactly that. I'm going to take time in the next or so to find and post it. Then what Cramps, another lie to cover up?



Wow!! You hear this folks?? This guy SAVES ALL POSTINGS from a football message board. Need I really have to say more?? DAMN!! Talk about someone needing a life! <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />
I simply saved most of yours at the time Cramps because of your incessant lying . There were some issues going on at the time that warranted saving, so when i called you out on it, i found you conveniently taking 2 or 3 week vacations..thats why Cramps. LOL <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Now, as per the bet you alluded to earlier on. Sounds to me your saying the Criminals will wipe the Steelers in both meetings in 07 correct ? I mean you being Cramps would have to think that way and you've expressed as much. Well Cramps, heres a simple bet for ya. I say that won't happen in spite of the lopsided wins this past yr, so putting it simply, if your criminals fail to do so, you agree to leave this board, once and for all, never to return under your current handle or any other. Conversely, i agree to the same . Something tells me your Not Man up enough to take the bet in spite of your constant Bravado. <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Talk about the Steelers disappointing 06 season all you want, bottom line is, we have a most recent LOMBARDI while yours is what, 6 yrs old? LMAO. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

As stated early on by yours truly this past Dec--Fail to go all the way in light of what we recently accomplished, Your season is a FAILURE , much like the Burgers you flip that end up on the floor at Mickey D's. So no matter who likes it or not, you will wear the [color:"brown"] [/color] collar for many months to come. You try acting like it doesn't bother you any longer, but i know better Cramps. Fact is, its eats your Guts out . Your teams Debacle is over a month old now, and it STILL eats your Gut. LOL LOL LOL See, i know this about you cramps, and I will serve as a CONSTANT reminder till camp opens. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Actually, i think theres much more a chance your criminals go back to 6 & 10 or 7 & 9 in 07. This much I'm sure of--You will NOT win the division, let alone a PO game, cause Lord knows, we don't want the Likes of your criminals representing the North again with ANOTHER ONE & DONE <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> .

Coach describes your opinions perfectly--PATHETIC

There are those who say that you have absolutely Nothing! I say BS. After all, you have inferiority which is quite apparent & obvious to anyone here thats known you for any length.

Now about that Bet Mr. ONE & DONE Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Careful now Cramps, or you'll get caught in ANOTHER lie. Back then, i saved them all. As a matter of fact, on one of my other hard drives is a post by you saying exactly that. I'm going to take time in the next or so to find and post it.

I don't know which is worse.......Cramps' incessant re-posting of the same drivel over and over, (to go along with CoachBee's) or the fact that you have publilcy admitted that you save his drivel on a separate hard drive for reference.....

Yinz all need some serious psychiatric help. <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />
Let me Clarify this for you Shep. When i say i saved them all, i'm referring to Cramps posts back then for a length of time simply because LIED most of the time when he found it convenient. Everyone here at the time Knows it, as they do now. The difference is, I could prove it and did on many occasions. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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I simply saved most of yours at the time Cramps because of your incessant lying . There were some issues going on at the time that warranted saving, so when i called you out on it, i found you conveniently taking 2 or 3 week vacations..thats why Cramps. LOL

Now, as per the bet you alluded to earlier on. Sounds to me your saying the Criminals will wipe the Steelers in both meetings in 07 correct ? I mean you being Cramps would have to think that way and you've expressed as much. Well Cramps, heres a simple bet for ya. I say that won't happen in spite of the lopsided wins this past yr, so putting it simply, if your criminals fail to do so, you agree to leave this board, once and for all, never to return under your current handle or any other. Conversely, i agree to the same . Something tells me your Not Man up enough to take the bet in spite of your constant Bravado.

Talk about the Steelers disappointing 06 season all you want, bottom line is, we have a most recent LOMBARDI while yours is what, 6 yrs old? LMAO.

As stated early on by yours truly this past Dec--Fail to go all the way in light of what we recently accomplished, Your season is a FAILURE , much like the Burgers you flip that end up on the floor at Mickey D's. So no matter who likes it or not, you will wear the collar for many months to come. You try acting like it doesn't bother you any longer, but i know better Cramps. Fact is, its eats your Guts out . Your teams Debacle is over a month old now, and it STILL eats your Gut. LOL LOL LOL See, i know this about you cramps, and I will serve as a CONSTANT reminder till camp opens.

Actually, i think theres much more a chance your criminals go back to 6 & 10 or 7 & 9 in 07. This much I'm sure of--You will NOT win the division, let alone a PO game, cause Lord knows, we don't want the Likes of your criminals representing the North again with ANOTHER ONE & DONE .

Coach describes your opinions perfectly--PATHETIC

There are those who say that you have absolutely Nothing! I say BS. After all, you have inferiority which is quite apparent & obvious to anyone here thats known you for any length.

Now about that Bet Mr. ONE & DONE Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
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What are you 12 years old? I tell you the brain matter on this board leaves a lot to be desired. You're worst then the walking, talking tape recorder known as Coach B.

And where did I say the Ravens would sweep the Steelers again? You are just besides yourself to the point that I'm laughing so hard my sides hurt. You and the other Steeler misfit just can't get over how utterly bad the Ravens whipped the Steelers this year. LMAO!! And tell me one good reason why I should agree to your bet that heavily I might add favors you. I'm not as stupid as you look Steel. Sorry! What you fail to realize is that I've gotten over last season. You and Clown Hunter are the ones looking like who done it and why. And trust me, it's the most hilarious thing I've ever experienced on this board or any other board. And this sadly includes all the bashing I do on Clowns fans. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> All I ever said slappy is that it would not SURPRISE me if the Ravens did sweep the Steelers again.

And okay, I will concede the Steelers have the most recent Lombardi Trophy. So do you want a medal, cookie, or bozo button. Your SB championship is in the rear view mirror as much as the Ravens since the new SB champs are the Colts. But thanks for playing. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

And yeah, yeah, our season was a failure? What the hell was the Steelers season then? The Ravens did accomplish something this year. I can say this with undoubted certainty. What can you say the Steelers accomplished this past season? <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> No, No, No!! Pal! Your Steelers were the TRUE failures. All that hype that went their way after the 2005 season. And what happened? It took a freakin hot streak at the end of the season just for your joke of a team to salvage an 8-8 record! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That is the facts pal! Live with it!!

And honestly, I could care less that you think I'm still bothered by the playoff lost. I'm not bothered in the least. You are the one who is obviously insecure as you can not let those two regular season massacres go now can you! So, whatever floats your boat. If you want to sound like son of Coach B and spew your tired, redundant, boring, unimaginative crap over and over and over, that is on you. The fact is in all reality, there is more questions that surround the Steelers then the Ravens. The division will ONCE AGAIN come down to the Ravens and the Bengals. So, have fun battling the Clowns to stay out of the AFC North cellar. Now, this would be a more fair bet. I'll wager that the Steelers will once again finish third or worst. Your team is a bunch of has beens. Even in pre-season, they looked horrible. And my GOD!!! You guys lost to the FREAKEN RAIDERS!! How the hell does that happen?? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> Damn, even the Clowns managed to beat the Raiders this season.

So, back at you with the pathetic comment. It would be quite obvious from a unbias person who the true pathetic person is.

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Let me Clarify this for you Shep. When i say i saved them all, i'm referring to Cramps posts back then for a length of time simply because LIED most of the time when he found it convenient. Everyone here at the time Knows it, as they do now. The difference is, I could prove it and did on many occasions.


Translation: I have no life, I have no life, I have no life!! Funny, how all of you just join hands singing kum-ba-ya calling me a liar but yet no facts to substantiate your point Steel. I wonder why??

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Thats the only part of your novel you got right cramps. <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />


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Damn. When you write long rambling post's with no real content you sometime's trip over your own words. First you say:

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Winning your division could also potentially lure big name free-agents or add that missing piece or two to get your team over the hump


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And lurring FA is all about money?? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! Just ask Clowns fans who tried to get Bart Scott and Trevor Pryce this past off-season. The Browns offered both those guys MORE MONEY then the Ravens and guess what? They BOTH came to Baltimore for less MONEY because of having a better chance of winning then in Cleveland. And to think I thought smacking Clowns fans was fun and easy.


So they came for less money? Maybe, I dont know but I will take your ( already shaky ) word for it. The damn sure did not come over because you were Afc North champs though did they? Matter of fact you ended up sharing the basement that year. So your dumb statement that winning a division crown will entice more big names to your team is quite pathetic. Nobody gives a damn about division champs. I sure as hell don't. Want to impress me? Win a playoff game.

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All I'll say to your mindless, redundant and boring dribble is I don't recall saying the season the Steelers had in 2004 was a "failure". As a matter of fact, YOU can't recall this either. All you are doing is playing follow the leader with everyone else who can't recall me saying this either. Nice!


Wrong. Sadly for you I was setting this up as soon as I saw you crowing over your fleeting moment in the playoffs. I remember it distinctly. Not only do I remember it but so do other members. We go 15-1 with a rookie Qb, and you called us a failure because we did not make it to the Superbowl and become WORLDCHAMPS. So when your team wins 13 games and loses their first playoff game how can they not also be a failure? By your logic? Well you guys are AFCNORTHCHAMPS.

I also like how you are covering yourself by saying you "Don't Recall" So if by some slim chance somebody does have an old post archived somewhere and blasts you with it you can then backpeddle and say you just forgot.

Make a stand for once in your life. A firm yes or no. Did you say it. Stop being wishy washy and straddling the fence. I am firm on my stance. Are you?


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Damn. When you write long rambling post's with no real content you sometime's trip over your own words. First you say:

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Winning your division could also potentially lure big name free-agents or add that missing piece or two to get your team over the hump


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And lurring FA is all about money?? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! Just ask Clowns fans who tried to get Bart Scott and Trevor Pryce this past off-season. The Browns offered both those guys MORE MONEY then the Ravens and guess what? They BOTH came to Baltimore for less MONEY because of having a better chance of winning then in Cleveland. And to think I thought smacking Clowns fans was fun and easy.


So they came for less money? Maybe, I dont know but I will take your ( already shaky ) word for it. The damn sure did not come over because you were Afc North champs though did they? Matter of fact you ended up sharing the basement that year. So your dumb statement that winning a division crown will entice more big names to your team is quite pathetic. Nobody gives a damn about division champs. I sure as hell don't. Want to impress me? Win a playoff game.

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All I'll say to your mindless, redundant and boring dribble is I don't recall saying the season the Steelers had in 2004 was a "failure". As a matter of fact, YOU can't recall this either. All you are doing is playing follow the leader with everyone else who can't recall me saying this either. Nice!


Wrong. Sadly for you I was setting this up as soon as I saw you crowing over your fleeting moment in the playoffs. I remember it distinctly. Not only do I remember it but so do other members. We go 15-1 with a rookie Qb, and you called us a failure because we did not make it to the Superbowl and become WORLDCHAMPS. So when your team wins 13 games and loses their first playoff game how can they not also be a failure? By your logic? Well you guys are AFCNORTHCHAMPS.

I also like how you are covering yourself by saying you "Don't Recall" So if by some slim chance somebody does have an old post archived somewhere and blasts you with it you can then backpeddle and say you just forgot.

Make a stand for once in your life. A firm yes or no. Did you say it. Stop being wishy washy and straddling the fence. I am firm on my stance. Are you?
CH. Your reply speaks for itself & along with many others on here that DO REMEMBER , so The Chimp hangs himself yet again.
It seems that Chumpy fails to proof read his line of BS, or should i say LIES before final posting. I''m looking for his posts from 04 regarding his statement that the division means nothing unless we end up with a Lombardi. I know i have it one one of 2 drives under in a folder called-- Chumps fabrications and Lies -- <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />

It seems that Andrea suffers from early Alzheimer's or hes just a CHRONIC Liar. I tend to believe the latter is the case <img src="/images/graemlins/saywhat.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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LOL, notice McAndre talking about being orignal in smack, but uses the "translation" smack I used against him? McHypocrite strikes again LOL
Coach. It wasn't too long ago that McAndre was an aspiring McActor is that correct? If so, that could explain everything.

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So they came for less money? Maybe, I dont know but I will take your ( already shaky ) word for it. The damn sure did not come over because you were Afc North champs though did they? Matter of fact you ended up sharing the basement that year. So your dumb statement that winning a division crown will entice more big names to your team is quite pathetic. Nobody gives a damn about division champs. I sure as hell don't. Want to impress me? Win a playoff game.


Your whole contention was that MONEY is what lures free agents - period! To which I responded that is not true considering the MONEY that the Browns offered Bart Scott and Trevor Pryce was MORE then what the Ravens were going to give those guys. Obviously if Scott and Pryce came to Baltimore for LESS MONEY, then there had to be another reason as to why they DID NOT take MORE MONEY from Cleveland. And if you want to impress me, make an effort to defend your SB title by at LEAST making the playoffs. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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Wrong. Sadly for you I was setting this up as soon as I saw you crowing over your fleeting moment in the playoffs. I remember it distinctly. Not only do I remember it but so do other members. We go 15-1 with a rookie Qb, and you called us a failure because we did not make it to the Superbowl and become WORLDCHAMPS. So when your team wins 13 games and loses their first playoff game how can they not also be a failure? By your logic? Well you guys are AFCNORTHCHAMPS.

I also like how you are covering yourself by saying you "Don't Recall" So if by some slim chance somebody does have an old post archived somewhere and blasts you with it you can then backpeddle and say you just forgot.

Make a stand for once in your life. A firm yes or no. Did you say it. Stop being wishy washy and straddling the fence. I am firm on my stance. Are you?


You can keep playing your little games all you want about "WC did say the Steelers were a failure in 2004". The bottom line is you and others have NOTHING! I know it - you know it. Again, if I did say this where are your facts to substantiate your point? I sure as hell hope none of you have aspirations to become a lawyer anytime soon. The average person can not recall what they said to someone one week ago much less 2 1/2 years ago. In other words, stop wasting my time and your time. In the event that someone "saved" an old archive posting of mine showing where I clearly and distinctively said the Steelers were a failure in 2004, move on and shut up. It's really that simple. But I know no one saved jack diddly so your argument without fact is rather meaningless now isn't it? You want me to stop straddling the fence? I've said already when this whole ridiculous arguement started that I DID NOT say the Steelers were a failure in 2004. Get real!

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Coach. It wasn't too long ago that McAndre was an aspiring McActor is that correct? If so, that could explain everything.

I'm waiting to see him in an episode of-- As the McStomach McTurns


Too funny! Keep talking up the "great" Coach B. He always talks about someone LYING yet he lied in his thread to me about the TRANSLATION SMACK ! In actuality, I was the first to use this on him, not the other way around. And he knows this. But whatever! As I've stated many times in the past. There is no freaken way this guy is a competent football coach or coach period.

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LOL, YET ANOTHER lie by McAndre. It's typical of you, though. I used this on you for weeks before you did it. Of course, in your delusional world you live in, you can rewrite things that happen. It is hilarious to watch you post lie after lie after lie.

Sorry, McAndre, I have OWNED you in every thread you've posted. You have proven over and over that you have NO CLUE about football. You saying I'm not a coach only validates the fact that I am. I understand your frustration, though, McAndre. I'm everything you WISH you could be. I am a successful coach and you are a troll on a messageboard that has no clue about the game. You want to be an actor, or claim to be one, and I've been in more movies that you have and have my SAG card while YOU listed on your resume WITNESSING THE STATE LOTTERY DRAWING. I have a successful business while you are flipping burgers at McDonalds and pretending to be working on your masters (pssst, McAndre, getting more training on how to change the oil in the friers isn't a masters program). I have a wonderful family with a son that is being recruited by 32 colleges, you sit sad and alone on Christmas Eve typing lies on a messageboard to give your life meaning. In short, you are nothing more than everything I've ever said. You've proven yourself a liar, a hypocrite, and one truly ignorant in the game of football. Keep re-writing history, McAndre. We know that reality sucks for you so you really do need to cling to your lies and the life you wish you had. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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You can keep playing your little games all you want about "WC did say the Steelers were a failure in 2004". The bottom line is you and others have NOTHING! I know it - you know it. Again, if I did say this where are your facts to substantiate your point?

Once again cramps pulls out the old " hey it's not posted on the board so you have no proof routine" You have used that excuse more times than you have changed underware in the last five years <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />


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Yet he talks about others being "tired" and "unoriginal"....McHypocrite sure does like the double standard, doesn't he? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Once again cramps pulls out the old " hey it's not posted on the board so you have no proof routine" You have used that excuse more times than you have changed underware in the last five years


Then you and others prove me wrong. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Steel "I have no freaken life" The Best, states he has MY posting saved under a folder?? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> My question is if he has proof that I said what I said in 2004, what is he waiting on to post it? <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Still using the same LAME and TIRED excuses after you lie, huh, McAndre? I told EVERYONE BEFORE you posted that this would be your same old cut and paste response. You couldn't be more pathetic if you tried. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />

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Coach, me and you have probably never seen eye to eye. Quite frankly I find most of your posts dull and lethargic. But. . . You hit the Rat on the head with your prediction 3 pages ago. .

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Ahh, but you two are forgetting one important McThing.....McAndre will now demand you to show him "proof" of saying that. He knows that it is no longer on the board so in McFantasyLand, it never happened. That's the beauty of the McAndre School of Debate. Wait until a post purges, say something totally contradictory to a previous post, and when challenged on the lies, ignorance, and inconsistency, deny you never said it and demand proof of it being said no matter how many people verify remembering it (it is critical to make sure enough time has gone by that the post has purged otherwise the McAndre Method doesn't work).


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The bottom line is you and others have NOTHING! I know it - you know it. Again, if I did say this where are your facts to substantiate your point? I sure as hell hope none of you have aspirations to become a lawyer anytime soon. The average person can not recall what they said to someone one week ago much less 2 1/2 years ago. In other words, stop wasting my time and your time. In the event that someone "saved" an old archive posting of mine showing where I clearly and distinctively said the Steelers were a failure in 2004, move on and shut up. It's really that simple. But I know no one saved jack diddly so your argument without fact is rather meaningless now isn't it? You want me to stop straddling the fence? I've said already when this whole ridiculous arguement started that I DID NOT say the Steelers were a failure in 2004. Get real!



Damn. It seems he DOES NOT RECALL ever saying it. He has a future in Politics for sure. Like I said before, me and you before this had zero history. I initially came on this board to smack Clownies, but then I had a change of heart and now I feel sorry for them ( poor clowns <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> ) The Rats are tuff and I gave them props for mopping the floor with us. I have NO reason to lie to a Rat fan on a Clowns board.

You said it. It is real. You can deny it till your purple blood turns green, it will not matter.


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It is sad, isn't it? Fans of EVERY TEAM in the AFC INCLUDING RAVENS FANS are calling McAndre on his lies and how he posts. You and I don't see eye to eye on many things. Yet, Steeler, Browns, Bengals, and RAVENS fans all come together and agree about McAndre. It sure isn't because we are all buddies and all.

There is a difference between being rivals and being a lying troll. You are the former, McAndre is the latter, as has been proven just in this very thread (notice how he has continued to ignore being caught in a lie on THIS VERY THREAD where he claimed that Ravens fans didn't care about the Colts?). Too borrow your catchphrase, if I may, poor McAndre indeed.

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