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Heh, this is classic. I always knew John Edwards is a sleaze bag. Cheating on his wife while she battles cancer? Typical politician.
Edwards Admits Sexual Affair; Lied as Presidential Candidate
In an ABC NEWS NIGHTLINE interview, Edwards Reveals He Cheated, But Didn't Father Child
By RHONDA SCHWARTZ and BRIAN ROSS
August 8, 2008 —
John Edwards repeatedly lied during his Presidential campaign about an extramarital affair with a novice filmmaker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.
In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.
Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter's baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.
Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby's birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.
A former campaign aide, Andrew Young, has said he was the father of the child.
According to friends of Hunter, Edwards met her at a New York city bar in 2006. His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience.
Edwards said the affair began during the campaign after she was hired. Hunter traveled with Edwards around the country and to Africa.
Edwards said he told his wife, Elizabeth, and others in his family about the affair in 2006.
Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife's cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter. Elizabeth Edwards has since been diagnosed with an incurable form of the disease.
When the National Enquirer first reported the alleged Edwards-Hunter affair last October 11, Edwards, his campaign staff and Hunter vociferously denounced the report.
"The story is false, it's completely untrue, it's ridiculous," Edwards told reporters then.
He repeated his denials just two weeks ago.
Edwards today admitted the National Enquirer was correct when it reported he had visited Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month.
The former Senator said his wife had not known about the meeting.
Since becoming pregnant, Hunter has lived under assumed names in a series of expensive homes in North Carolina and, more recently, in Santa Barbara, Calif.
Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him.
He said he would ask questions about any possible arrangement.
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Why is this news now? Unless his name is being floated around as vice president (which would answer my question) why print it? He is not even a Senator anymore.
Ithink these guys screw themselves over by lying. When the truth finally comes out, they look even worse.
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Ehh, upon further review, I retract my last post. He is denying fathering a child, that makes it a little more interesting.
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Why do these politicians lie about this stuff? I mean, I guess we all know why they do (just like most spouses lie about it), but they have to know it'll come out eventually.
Heck, if it was me, I'd say "yeah, I had an affair, it was a horrible stupid mistake, my wife and I have talked about it, I will never do it again, and we've moved on with our lives."
But no, they lie, then build on the lie, then have to lie on that, and it just gets out of control.
If he was going to be in the VP line, I have to think this takes him out of it.
Now, that's not because I think that having an affair means you're going to be a bad VP or bad President. Frankly, I don't really care about a person's personal life when it comes to being President. But, it would be a PR nightmare for the Dems, so they'll avoid Edwards like the plague.
And rightfully so. Guy cheated on his wife while she was battling cancer. Heck, cheating on your spouse when they're 100% healthy is horrible! It's like Newt Gingrich having his wife sign the divorce papers while she was lying in bed battling cancer. Some people just don't have a heart.
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this basically ended any shot at a VP nod, future run at the white house, and may hurt his desire to become Attorney General under Obama.
But cheating on your cancer-stricken wife, thats low. Lying about it on the campaign trail is nothing new, politicians do it all the time. He just got caught.
I wonder why hes so quick to deny the child as well. Someone give Maury a call. I smell a two-hour special.
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I would hope that's true - that he has come to an end regarding any federal political post. Why put trust in people who lie? This is also one of the problems I have with McCain and how he lied about his divorce and re-marriage. Heck, all these candidates deliberately misrepresent their opponent's view. If telling the truth is paying too much of a price to win an election, the heck with all these politicians.
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Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him.
Sounds like another lie right here.LOL
Who really cares if these guys are getting some on the side.If the truth were known,they probably all do.
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In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.
Oh.... that makes it all better ...... "I didn't love her .... I was just doing her while my wife battled cancer ...."
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Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter's baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.
He says so ... so it mst be true ...... after all, he's a man of his word .......
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Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby's birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father. A former campaign aide, Andrew Young, has said he was the father of the child.
Wow ... they just passed her around, huh? 
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Politicians all lie, it is necessary to lie to be a successful politician. Unfortunately that is the way it works. The flaw is within the political system and inside the head of each voter.
People will always vote for the candidate that has the clean image facade instead of the one who has been honest about their infidelities.
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He tried to come across as one "helping the people that need help", yet he's out screwing around while his own wife fights cancer.
That's a stand up guy for you.....plus, he denies and denies, right up until he says he did. And it comes out on a friday afternoon?
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He tried to come across as one "helping the people that need help", yet he's out screwing around while his own wife fights cancer.
That's a stand up guy for you.....plus, he denies and denies, right up until he says he did. And it comes out on a friday afternoon?
Well you can help people that need help and still go out screwing around while your wife fights cancer.. They aren't connected.. One makes you look good for doing something, then other makes you look bad for doing something. They are not related to each other.
It could have came out friday evening.
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In an ABC NEWS NIGHTLINE interview, Edwards Reveals He Cheated, But Didn't Father Child
Kind of like "trying marijuana, but not inhaling"? It's interesting that he feels its important to put that out there - that the child isn't his. Could it be he's more concerned with an impending paternity suit and future child support responsibilities than with how this reflects on his morals and how it effects his sick wife? His statement denying paternity very subtly slimes the woman he had an affair with by hinting that she was passed around like a party favor in his campaign organization.
Edwards turns out to be right about one thing though ... there really are "Two America's" ... the one made up of Americans and the other consisting of reptilian trial lawyers.
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He and Bill Clinton should get togehter and share stories.
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August 9, 2008 Reticence of Mainstream Media Becomes a Story Itself By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA and BILL CARTER For almost 10 months, the story of John Edwards’s affair remained the nearly exclusive province of the National Enquirer — through reports, denials, news of a pregnancy, questions about paternity and, finally, a slapstick chase through a hotel in Beverly Hills. Political blogs, some cable networks and a few newspapers reported on it — or, more accurately, reported on The Enquirer reporting on it. Jay Leno and David Letterman made Mr. Edwards the butt of jokes on their late-night shows, but their own networks declined to report on the rumors surrounding him on the evening news. Why? A number of news organizations with resources far greater than The Enquirer’s, like The New York Times, say they looked into the Edwards matter and found nothing solid enough to report, while others did not look at all. Some of their comments point to a lack of interest in a story about the private conduct of an also-ran presidential candidate, and a distaste for following the lead of a publication they hold in low esteem. Only in Mr. Edwards’s home state, North Carolina, did newspapers aggressively chase the story in the last few weeks. On Friday, Phil Bronstein, the former editor of The San Francisco Chronicle, in his blog on that paper’s Web site, poked fun at the reticence of the mainstream media, “picking at it with their noses held, as if looking for something valuable in a moldy dumpster.” “On journalism sites, the finger-pointing, self-loathing, self-righteousness and tut-tutting was massive,” he wrote. “Does anyone really think that a story splashed in the tabs and debated on blogs like a powerful fire backdraft is somehow not part of the public discourse?” The Enquirer first reported the affair in October, and it reported in December that the woman, Rielle Hunter, who had done video production work for the campaign, was pregnant and that Mr. Edwards was the father. At the time, Mr. Edwards, a former senator from North Carolina, was still very much a presidential candidate, though polls showed him running a distant third for the Democratic nomination. He denied the allegations, and a campaign aide said he, not the candidate, was the father — and Ms. Hunter agreed. The Los Angeles Times published one brief item in October, focusing on Mr. Edwards’s denial of an affair. The New York Daily News wrote about it a few times over the months. But the three broadcast network newscasts, the three cable news networks, and most of the major newspapers and magazines did not say a word. On July 22, the Enquirer said that one of its reporters had caught Mr. Edwards visiting the mother and child at the Beverly Hilton, and chased him through the hotel. The general media’s resistance started to crack then, and it began crumbling after The Enquirer, on Wednesday, published what it said were pictures of that hotel rendezvous, including a grainy photo showing what looked to be Mr. Edwards holding a baby. Fox News Channel, The San Francisco Chronicle, The Miami Herald and the Web site of New York Magazine were among those that first mentioned The Enquirer reports in late July. MSNBC did so only back-handedly, by showing a clip of Mr. Letterman joking about it. The Charlotte Observer and The News & Observer of Raleigh have each written about the matter several times over the last nine days, and a Los Angeles Times blog took it up. But many news organizations — including The New York Times — weighed in only after ABC News announced on Friday that it had an interview with Mr. Edwards, in which he admitted the affair but denied paternity. “These kinds of allegations fly around about just about every candidate,” said Leonard Downie Jr., executive editor of The Washington Post, which had not written about the affair until Friday. “We checked them out and we asked questions, and at no time did we have any facts to report.” After Mr. Edwards dropped out of the race last winter, it was not clear that there was any relevance to the story, Mr. Downie said. The Post began looking into it more seriously in the last few weeks, in light of a possible Edwards role at the Democratic convention or in a Barack Obama administration. CNN, which first mentioned the affair on Friday, “had been working the story since it first broke in The Enquirer late last year,” said Sam Feist, the political director. “We sent people to Chapel Hill, we sent people to California.” But, he said, “Edwards denied it, the woman denied it,” and “you have to have some sort of evidence before you put something on the air.” Paul Friedman, senior vice president of CBS News, said the network did not actively pursue the story when it broke last fall. Asked if that was because it had first appeared in The National Enquirer, he said, “Exactly.” In the months since then, Mr. Friedman said, CBS kept track of the story but did not actively pursue it. “We saw no reason to make his life or the life of his family any worse, until it became well-documented or he admitted it, which is what happened today,” he said.The New York Times looked into the Enquirer reports last fall, though none too aggressively, editors said. Bill Keller, the executive editor, said in an e-mail message that Mr. Edwards’s dark-horse status and the “added hold-your-nose quality about The Enquirer” contributed to the lack of interest by The Times and the mainstream media generally. Like Mr. Downie, he said that the questions seemed irrelevant once Mr. Edwards was out of the race, but that recently, The Times had “tried to ascertain whether the cloud generated by The Enquirer’s reporting had influenced the Obama campaign in its thinking about a future role for Edwards.” Brian Stelter contributed reporting. Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/busine...0Ko/U+GE7Dq3emgThe major story here might be the mainstream media's refusal to cover this story. Contrast that with the coverage of Republicans like the toe-tapping Senator, Larry "Wide-Stance" Craig, or the congressional-page-chasing Mark Foley, or any other Republican sex scandal. Like Ann Coulter said, "If this had been Mitt Romney, they (the media) would be doing the evening news from his front lawn.". The double standard is stunning.
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NEXT ON MURRY, the paternity test results on John Edwards.
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Why would this take him out of the running for VP? So he is a scumbag lying cheater that screws around on his sick wife. He is a Democrat so that doesn't really matter. Man, what a phony!!!
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You guys crack me up. Why does it matter whether he's a Dem or a Repub? Answer: It doesn't except to partisan hacks like you.
And why does it matter even now? He isn't in the Govt anymore. He isn't running for anything. He isn't a candidate for the VP nomination. This happened quite a while ago. To me this is a non issue except for guys like Rush and Dawg Duty.
Must have been a slow news day.
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Edwards brought this upon himself...then lied about it to the face of the public...then lied again...then came clean when the story was about to be leaked by the jilted lover. Classic.
It matters because this guy was surely in line for some job in the Obama camp.
It matters because it happened long ago and the mainstream media ignored it...had he been a republican...the mainstream media would have been all over it from the get go.
Unfortunately, this is a big story...but is a big story nonetheless.
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A democratic candidate for President admitting an affair? Who woulda thunk it? I wonder who Barack is boning.
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Democrats can’t be pleased with John Edwards’ confession that he had an affair with Rielle Hunter. It tarnishes the Democratic brand just as they’re gearing up for their quadrennial coming-out party, and the only thing more conspicuous than Edwards’ presence will be his absence. And Edwards could have a Mark Foley-like trickle-down effect in down-ballot races, where negative/positive party associations matter most.
But the news is not all bad for Democrats. First, Obama is pretty much soaked in Teflon when it comes to family matters. Second, it could be a lot worse: What if Edwards had actually won the nomination? And third, it introduces marital infidelity back into the conversation.
Recall: John McCain returned to the United States from Vietnam in March 1973. His wife, Carol, had been in a near-fatal car accident while he was gone. She was overweight, on crutches, and 4 inches shorter than when McCain had left. McCain ended up divorcing Carol for Cindy Hensley, his current wife. Carol has remained mostly silent on her marriage to John, except for one notable comment to a McCain biographer: “John was turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again.”
There were legal complications, too. The Los Angeles Times reported in June that McCain obtained a marriage license while still legally married to his first wife. McCain suggested in his autobiography that he divorced Carol months before marrying Cindy. In fact, that period was about five weeks. He also said that for the first nine months of his relationship with Cindy, he still “cohabited” with Carol. Social conservatives were never McCain’s base, but yes, it could get worse.
For the most part, the media have politely skirted around this episode of McCain’s life. (Not to mention other unflattering moments.) For one thing, it’s long past. McCain has since developed a reputation for credibility and transparency. (Post-Keating Five, that is.) And, unlike Edwards, he told the truth about his deviance. "My marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity,” McCain wrote in his autobiography. “The blame was entirely mine."
But with Edwards’ infidelity front and center, that could change. In recent weeks, McCain’s ads have taken a turn for the personal, comparing Obama to vapid celebrities like Paris and Britney. Now Obama is coming under increasing pressure to retaliate. The Obama camp has never publicly raised McCain’s marital issues, nor would it. But insinuation, coupled with euphemisms about “trust” and “commitment,” can go a long way. In an environment filled with personal attacks on both sides, you can bet McCain’s past will become fair game. The Edwards news even gives McCain’s detractors a convenient pretext to raise the subject. So you heard about Edwards ditching his sick wife? Wait till you get a load of McCain …
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Anyone he wants.
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Why would this take him out of the running for VP? So he is a scumbag lying cheater that screws around on his sick wife. He is an American politician so that doesn't really matter. Man, what a phony!!!
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You guys crack me up. Why does it matter whether he's a Dem or a Repub? Answer: It doesn't except to partisan hacks like you.
And why does it matter even now? He isn't in the Govt anymore. He isn't running for anything. He isn't a candidate for the VP nomination. This happened quite a while ago. To me this is a non issue except for guys like Rush and Dawg Duty.
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And another thing, This slime ran for President of the United States and last I heard was being considered for VP. I think anyone that high in Govt should maintain themselves with above reproch integerty. If you or I cheat on our wifes its not a big deal except to maybe our wifes. If Edwards is crying on TV about his poor wife and then cheating on her it makes the USA look bad. You guys are Democrats not the French. Straighten up. 
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He's a talk show host who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
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It makes us look bad because we are laughably interested in crap that has zero to do with the duties of running the country. I could care less if Edwards cheated on his wife or Bush got a DUI...none of that has to do with the job in question. These B.S. issues are what distracts us from the real ones.
I've had this debate before, but infidelity is the least of my concerns when it comes to politicians....how much lobby money did Edwards take last year? That's something that interests me.
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He lied... hmmm... I'm sorry where's the big surprise. Am I disappointed he did that to his wife while she was battling cancer? Of course I am.
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You guys crack me up. Why does it matter whether he's a Dem or a Repub? Answer: It doesn't except to partisan hacks like you.
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And another thing, This slime ran for President of the United States and last I heard was being considered for VP. I think anyone that high in Govt should maintain themselves with above reproch integerty. If you or I cheat on our wifes its not a big deal except to maybe our wifes. If Edwards is crying on TV about his poor wife and then cheating on her it makes the USA look bad. You guys are Democrats not the French. Straighten up.
Lush is a great man, lmao. And Newt Gingrich was having an active affair while furiously working to get Bill Clinton impeached. The only people who see a particular political party in this are people who can't see that this crap cuts across all parties, people, religions etc. It's the same human crap, different day. Do I think a Dem is capable of what with Ted Stevens is accused of? Of course! It'd be childish to think it couldn't. All of this has and will happen again. Every few years on both sides of the isle... guaranteed. I'd be willing to bet a prominant Republican and a prominent Democrat with both be roasted in one sex scandal or another in the next, say, 3 years. Want to bet $100 it doesn't?
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And Newt admitted he did wrong and resigned.....And Clinton tried to ruin a young girl with his gutless lies and didn't.
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Easy -all that matters is Edwards fessed up to his affair, after denying it for a few years. BUT, he was the first to admit that he did not father the child in question. AND, the mother has flat out refused paternity tests to determine if Edwards, the multi multi millionaire, was the father. Plus, she lives in a $3 million dollar home in Cal, paid for by one of Edwards friends - so, Edwards is free and clear. Follow the money, people, follow the money. (plus, the Edwards campaigner that claims to be the father of the child is also sporting a multi million dollar home. Wonder where the hell all this money came from - you think it's hush money?)
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Uhhh ok. So all the dastardly villains are over here and all the misunderstood men of heroic valor are over there? It's just that cut and dry, like pro wrestling characters? Ever think that your allegiance to... oh never mind. It's just not worth it if you don't understand basic stuff about people.
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It makes us look bad because we are laughably interested in crap that has zero to do with the duties of running the country.
Sorry Phil, I have to disagree. I do believe people can change over time and I believe that people can grow and learn from mistakes and I'm generally willing to give people second and third chances... However, I'm not a person who believes that human beings can turn personal integrity and character on and off based on which room of the house they are in. If you are willing to lie and cheat for self serving purposes in the bedroom, then you are probably also willing to lie and cheat at the office as well.
I know most people will laugh that off as, "Well they are politicians, what do you expect." Well, part of me still holds out hope that we could expect better from those who seek to lead.
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What would you say if we had a president who ran the country impeccably...you think this guy is something else...every move he makes, DC likes...and then it comes out that he's has a dozen affairs?
What does that matter if he's done a great job in office?
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It makes us look bad because we are laughably interested in crap that has zero to do with the duties of running the country.
Sorry Phil, I have to disagree. I do believe people can change over time and I believe that people can grow and learn from mistakes and I'm generally willing to give people second and third chances... However, I'm not a person who believes that human beings can turn personal integrity and character on and off based on which room of the house they are in. If you are willing to lie and cheat for self serving purposes in the bedroom, then you are probably also willing to lie and cheat at the office as well.
I know most people will laugh that off as, "Well they are politicians, what do you expect." Well, part of me still holds out hope that we could expect better from those who seek to lead.
Count me as another person that expects more out of people that profess to lead - people that want to tell me how to live - yet can't do it for themselves.
Count me as a tax paying citizen that has a vote.
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What would you say if we had a president who ran the country impeccably...you think this guy is something else...every move he makes, DC likes...and then it comes out that he's has a dozen affairs?
What does that matter if he's done a great job in office?
If I don't know until after the fact then there is nothing I can do about it... It would tarnish my opinion of him....
But going into an election, I have to base my vote on something and this is one element I consider. See, I'm of the opinion that most presidencies are defined by things which are not even issues during the campaign so I have to vote for how I think a person will respond to a yet-unknown issue.. I'd prefer to have somebody of higher character...
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Just a thought.
Supposed that extra-marital affairs were not the taboo they are, would it make these people bad candidates for office still? Is it still lieing and cheating if it's common.
What about a President who along with his wife are swingers? Or have an "open" marriage?
Just asking because I'm curious. While I don't agree with cheating on your spouse, I hardly feel it makes or breaks a persons abilities to perform a certain job. Especially when we don't know all the circumstances.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Supposed that extra-marital affairs were not the taboo they are, would it make these people bad candidates for office still?
For the record, I didn't say it made them "bad candidates" I said that given the choice between somebody without this lying and cheating in their recent past and somebody with it, all else being equal, I'd prefer the person without it.
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Is it still lieing and cheating if it's common.
What about a President who along with his wife are swingers? Or have an "open" marriage?
I suppose if the wife is ok with it or even is involved with it, then it's not really lying or cheating... Something still doesn't feel right about it to me... but that's just me.
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While I don't agree with cheating on your spouse, I hardly feel it makes or breaks a persons abilities to perform a certain job. Especially when we don't know all the circumstances.
I'm not sure what "circumstances" you are talking about. If you are stating she knew about it and was ok with it, then that is a circumstance to consider... if you are saying that maybe she was sick and couldn't attend to "his needs" for a long time and he had to satisfy himself, then that, in my opinion, is weakness and shows a lack of self control.
I will repeat, I never said it was a make or break thing.. I've known people who had affairs before and seemed to do just fine at work... but I have to admit that in the back of my mind I had to wonder, if push comes to shove, this is a person who is willing to lie and cheat to save themselves, they've done it before.
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I understand your view, and I agree in some ways, but I ask myself if my feelings are based on public opinion. I was not really interested in whether his cheating or reason for cheating was right or wrong. But more along the lines that for some it is hard to come out and admit wrong doing when confronted, and with affairs, especially among politicians, being so taboo in general opinion, that most people will deny it as a first reaction. Once you start to dig the hole, it's hard to fill it back in. Truth is, if the media didn't make a big deal about it, he wouldn't have been asked, he wouldn't have lied, none of it would be a big deal. So would it make a difference if he had the affair, and it became public, but he was never asked about it, so he never would have lied? And yes, I'm bored at work, so I'm just spewing garbage so I have something to pass the time. 
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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