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Rucker may need MRI on knee Zac Jackson, Staff Writer 08.12.2008 Rookie tight end Martin Rucker missed practice Tuesday morning after twisting his knee on Monday. Browns coach Romeo Crennel said Rucker may need an MRI, but he offered no further details on Rucker's status. Shaun Rogers was also absent Tuesday morning due to a sore knee, but Crennel said Rogers could be back on the field as soon as Tuesday afternoon. Crennel has been giving his veteran players some days off during training camp, trying to keep them healthy and fresh for the long season ahead. He's taken further measures, too. In addition to cutting a pair of two-a-day sessions down to one practice later this week, the Browns have cut back on the length of practices and the amount of hitting they've done in recent days. Camp wraps up on Saturday, a day before the team leaves for Monday night's game at the Giants. "We're beat up a little bit," Crennel said. "As I mentioned the other day, I only had one fullback that was working and he's beat up a little bit also. So I could beat him up and not have any fullbacks, or I could take the pads off and get work done on timing, recognition and everything else. I felt it was better for the football team to do it that way." Though the Browns have been able to steer clear of major injuries this camp, they've been hit by a handful of minor injuries in a handful position groups. Rucker is just the latest Browns tight end to suffer a training camp injury, though his comes as the rest of the unit is returning to health. Kellen Winslow and Steve Heiden are back practicing at full speed after missing last week's preseason opener, and Brad Cieslak was also back in practice Monday and Tuesday after suffering a foot injury in that game. Rucker's absence also leaves the Browns without their first two draft picks. Linebacker Beau Bell, who was picked in the fourth round seven spots before Rucker, had knee surgery last week. Crennel said Bell and Antwan Peek, who's also recovering from knee surgery, are continuing to work and rehab. The receiver position is still shorthanded as Braylon Edwards (foot) and Kevin Kasper (hamstring) are out. Home Page Hope it's not serious... I like this guy.
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Oh my God! Rucker is going to be out for the season, I know it! Why do things like this always happen to the Browns! The one guy we have that shows some promise and this happens! Good, good-bye 2008 season, hello #1 draft pick! 
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lol... 
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I can see Rucker being put on IR for next to nothing if he's not quite ready for primetime, but we don't want to risk putting on the practice squad.
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After listening to RAC's interview, it really didn't sound that serious, and that the MRI was more precautionary. But who really knows... I do think Rucker has a good chance of making the team if he stays healthy. I think they like what he brings to the table and will make the roster is there's nothing seriously wrong with his knee. JMHO
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How do you figure "HELLO #1 DRAFT PICK" ???? we are fine w/out him.. Is he talented? yes!! We have Heiden, Dinkins, and The TE from Buffalo Ceslak ... We are fine..He will though be missed if he goes down for the season!!! KW2 will play slot a lot leaving those guys to play TE.. 
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I think he was trying to be funny.....
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lol... pretty sure he was joking... You were joking, right BFS79? 
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How do you figure "HELLO #1 DRAFT PICK" ???? we are fine w/out him.. Is he talented? yes!! We have Heiden, Dinkins, and The TE from Buffalo Ceslak ... We are fine..He will though be missed if he goes down for the season!!! KW2 will play slot a lot leaving those guys to play TE..
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The crappy thing is, if the season were to start today, we would be without Jurevicious Rucker Peek Tucker Vickers Edwards Kasper Anyone else???? 
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The crappy thing is, if the season were to start today, we would be without
Jurevicious
Rucker
Peek
Tucker
Vickers
Edwards
Kasper
Anyone else????
It's a good thing it starts in 3 weeks then huh?
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No doubt. In fact I read a article where RAC was quoted as saying he is cutting down on the length of practices, cutting some 2 a days, and moving to no contact practices due to the number of bumps and bruises that we've seen. I really think this is the effects of the smaller roster sizes the NFL has mandated this year.
I really think the NFL will make a quick change to this rule next year.
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j/c
I was just kidding around, trying to mock the doomsday people we have around here.
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I do think Rucker has a good chance of making the team if he stays healthy. I think they like what he brings to the table and will make the roster is there's nothing seriously wrong with his knee. JMHO
I think that Rucker is a definite. I know only one Pre-season game has been played but they drafted him as an insurance policy and so far he looks pretty solid. Rucker has been said to be able to do every thing a TE needs to do. The reason they took him is the reason he will stick unless he is hurt. That could change things but Rucker is the #3-4 TE with Dinkins.
The suprise cut would be Heiden. And that i sonly if Dinkins can be the blocking TE Heiden is.
Its a numbers game at TE and I dont think Rucker is outside looking in.
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Heiden's too good to cut if healthy... maybe we keep 4 TEs. If Rucker is healthy, I think it comes down to Dinkins & Cieslack, who seems to be making some noise. But Dinkins is getting props too, so who knows? If we only keep three TEs and Rucker and Heiden is healthy, then Dinkins is the odd man out and Cieslak has no chance, IMO.
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The crappy thing is, if the season were to start today, we would be without
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Rucker
Peek
Tucker
Vickers
Edwards
Kasper
Anyone else????
D Holly. 
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by Mary Kay Cabot Tuesday August 12, 2008, 11:40 PM
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Browns tight end Martin Rucker.Browns rookie tight end Martin Rucker suffered a torn meniscus in practice on Tuesday and will be out about six weeks after he undergoes surgery, a source told The Plain Dealer Tuesday night.
Rucker, the Browns' fourth-round pick out of Missouri, twisted the knee on Monday afternoon and underwent an MRI Tuesday, which revealed the tear.
If Rucker is out all six weeks, he'd be ready about Sept. 23, meaning he'd miss at least the first three games of the season -- at home against Dallas and Pittsburgh, and at Baltimore. With the bye week coming Oct. 5, it's conceivable the Browns would hold him out until after that, with the next game being the Oct. 13th date with the Super Bowl champion New York Giants, a Monday night ESPN game.
It means the Browns' top two draft picks of 2008 are both out with knee injuries. Linebacker Beau Bell, the team's fourth-round pick from UNLV, underwent arthroscopic surgery last Thursday to remove loose cartilage behind his right kneecap.
The injury is also the fourth to a tight end this preseason. Kellen Winslow has been battling a hamstring injury, Steve Heiden is just returning from a knee injury and Brad Cieslak suffered a minor foot injury against the Jets.
With the top tight ends in and out, Rucker received plenty of reps and was getting comfortable in the offense. During Thursday night's 24-20 loss to the Jets, he caught five passes for 70 yards and the staff was impressed. But he lamented missing a few passes and vowed to come back this week and work even harder in camp.
"It was a bit rocky in spots," Rucker said after practice Saturday. "I definitely need to improve on some things, but I did some good things as well."
Chances are, Rucker would've had a hard time getting reps on offense in the early going anyway.
"If you're realistic and Winslow and [Steve] Heiden are healthy, they'll get the bulk of the work," said Crennel on Saturday. "Then, if he's on the team he has to be a special-teams contributor. He understands it's not over by a long shot."
But it's on hold for the time being.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2008/08/rookie_te_rucker_needs_arthros.html
Well, that kinda sucks.....
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The crappy thing is, if the season were to start today, we would be without
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Edwards
Kasper
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I don't like these injuries to our rookies...
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I don't like any injuries. So it looks like we'll get Zero help from our rook's for at least the first 4 weeks of the regular season.
People were calling me gloom and doom, but I swear the injury bug follows this team more than others.
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So let's update the list:
Jurevicious
Rucker
Peek
Tucker
Vickers
Edwards
Kasper
Bell
Holly
4 Staters on offense, 2 key reserves on offense, and 2 starters on D and 1 reserve. The starting lineup for this Monday night should be interesting.
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Yes, it is difficult to face injuries to our 4th round draft picks who, if we had a regular draft this year, we probably would have paid very little attention to.
Don't get me wrong, I hate to see these injuries, too. But, these are guys who were going to contribute on special teams, if at all, right now. These guys weren't going to be starting and probably weren't going to be getting a lot of playing time in the first four weeks, if they were going to be getting a lot of significant time this season at all!
Let's keep things in perspective here, people.
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I beg to differ on Rucker. That guy has some pretty good pass catching qualities. With JJ out, I could have easily seen us utilizing Rucker, Winslow, Edwards and Stallworth on the field all at once. Didn't he have like 4 catches for 70 yards against the Jets? He would have been much more than a Special Teams guy.
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So you're saying a rookie like Rucker is going to surpass Heiden, Wilson, potentially Sanders, Cieslak (sp?), and/or Harrison/Wright out of the backfield just because he did well against the Jets in a preseason game?
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Attack, the only good news is that I don't think we were counting on Bell and Rucker to be huge contributors this season anyway. So maybe, it's not the end of the world this time..
Still, I hate to see it because at least Rucker looked pretty darn decent in the Jets game last week.
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People were calling me gloom and doom, but I swear the injury bug follows this team more than others.
I don't feel like we've been hit with the injury bug at all nor that the injury bug is following us around. Everything so far has been minor injuries. Guys will be back. No one of any significance is expected to miss any regular season with the exception of JJ - and that may end up being a blessing in disguise.
My main concern is BE, but until we hear that it's worse than it is, we are likely to be ok there.
It sucks that Bell and Rucker will miss some time, but there time is later anyway.
I think we've been very lucky.
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Did you forget Holly. I think it's safe to say that that is a significant loss for the entire year.
Bell and Rucker,, eh,, I wasn't expecting them to contribute until possibly mid season anyway...
BE will be back in time for the season and he was already looking in mid season form..
I'm unsure of Heiden. That one could hurt a little. Winslows Hammy might slow him a little.
But the only real significant loss is Holly
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So that means he's PUP or is it IR for the first half of the season? There's no way they hold a roster spot for an injured rookie fourth rounder. I guess that means we don't have to hide him on the practice squad and hope nobody notices? Meanwhile he gets to stay with the team and do conditioning and rehab.
When are the cuts starting?
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I'm unsure of Heiden. That one could hurt a little. Winslows Hammy might slow him a little.
I believe Heiden is already back practicing, although it might be only lightly. But, I think he's going to be ready for the season opener. And, I think Winslow's injury is more of an annoyance and they're holding him out just to get him back to 100%. Hamstring injuries just don't go away until you let them completely heal.
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So that means he's PUP or is it IR for the first half of the season?
If they put him on IR, he is done for the season and we can't take him back. I doubt we go that route. And, I'd be surprised if we just plain cut the guy, and I doubt he'd make it to our practice squad. I have a feeling he'd get picked up by somebody else.
Nah, I see us holding on to him, eating the roster spot while he's rehabbing, and then getting him back in the fold. He'll be low on the depth chart as it is, so he'll have time to get back into it.
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Hope you are right.. in fact, I think you are.
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So you're saying a rookie like Rucker is going to surpass Heiden, Wilson, potentially Sanders, Cieslak (sp?), and/or Harrison/Wright out of the backfield just because he did well against the Jets in a preseason game?
I'm saying Rucker is going to be a better pass threat than Heiden. The Browns will definitely explore any opportunity to come out in a 2 Tightend spread set which will cause some nasty mismatches.
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but we also need more than just pass catchers.....
see jerome harrison and his failure last year to dress.
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The crappy thing is, if the season were to start today, we would be without
Jurevicious
Rucker
Peek
Tucker
Vickers
Edwards
Kasper
Anyone else????
It's a good thing it starts in 3 weeks then huh?
No kidding! I was just reading earlier today that the Seahawks have 20 of 87 people out. I'm just glad we only have 7.
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Bummer... thanks for the update, Daman. I'm not that concerned about the injury per se, but the reps he's going to miss will put him on the back burner and probably take him off the roster. Hope we can hang onto him. 
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I don't like any injuries. So it looks like we'll get Zero help from our rook's for at least the first 4 weeks of the regular season.
People were calling me gloom and doom, but I swear the injury bug follows this team more than others.
Don't forget last year was a good year, hardly any injuries. Not while injuries stink, they are taking place in areas where we can afford to be without someone for a few weeks..
If we start losing O or D line or D backs, then I will start to sweat..
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Did you forget Holly. I think it's safe to say that that is a significant loss for the entire year.
Yes, I did. And I agree that is also significant.
But JJ was our #3 receiver and Holly was our #3 corner. It stings, it hurts, no doubt. But I think we can recover from them, and I don't think they will stand in our way of reaching our ultimate goal. In that sense, I think we've been lucky. They certainly would make it easier, though - that's for sure.
There are a few guys who I believe that if they went down for any significant amount of time, you can call it a season. And none of those guys have been hurt significantly.
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