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Red Sox acquire red-hot Byrd from Indians in waiver deal Aug. 12, 2008 CBSSports.com wire reports Click Here Share this page. BOSTON -- The Boston Red Sox acquired pitcher Paul Byrd in a trade with the Cleveland Indians on Tuesday. The Red Sox will send either a player to be named or cash to the Indians. The 37-year-old Byrd is 7-10 with a 4.53 ERA this season. But the right-hander has won all four of his starts since the All-Star break, compiling a 1.24 ERA in 29 innings. Boston leads the AL wild-card race. The Red Sox are minus starter Tim Wakefield -- the knuckleballer is out with a stiff right shoulder. AP NEWS The Associated Press News Service Copyright 2007-2008, The Associated Press, All Rights Reserved Link
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Huh... We bringing Laffey back up already or is somebody else going to take Byrd's spot in the rotation?
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So that was the best deal going?! And what exactly does "trade deadline" mean!  Well...It'll all be over soon!
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So I see Daddy No Bucks Dolan and Opie Shapiro are at it again. Hey, they might as well trade Cliff Lee and Grady Sizemore.
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So I see Daddy No Bucks Dolan and Opie Shapiro are at it again. Hey, they might as well trade Cliff Lee and Grady Sizemore.

This post is really, really uninformed.
But i'm sure you're the typical Indians fan who expects a Major League talent for a 37 year old, soft tossing Starting pitcher.
He was traded to get something before he becomes a free agent.
you had a good run Hank.
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Uh, if the front office did their job last off season and went after a couple more players to actually get the Indians to the next level, I wouldn't be complaining. We were ONE GAME AWAY from getting to the World Series and the brilliant people in charge did absolutely NOTHING in the off season...unless you want to consider Jamey Carroll a huge acquisition.  Instead of adding we're subtracting...can you say, fire sale???
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Uh, if the front office did their job last off season and went after a couple more players to actually get the Indians to the next level, I wouldn't be complaining. We were ONE GAME AWAY from getting to the World Series and the brilliant people in charge did absolutely NOTHING in the off season...unless you want to consider Jamey Carroll a huge acquisition. Instead of adding we're subtracting...can you say, fire sale???
I agree with everything you said.
Like it or not, this is what SMALL-MID Market teams have to do in baseball.
Don't like it? Find a new sport. As for this, I don't see why we should keep a pitcher and let him run out there the rest of this lost season instead of trading him, letting the Red Sox take on his contract, and we get money to (hopefully) put into this team next year.
No matter which side you look at this, it's a good move.
you had a good run Hank.
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This season is over and therefore no matter how well he pitches, it is not going to help us. Take what you can get for him and who knows, the player we get might amount to something of substance. Chances are he was going to sign with another team willingly or the Tribe was not going to sign him. Then we get nothing so therefore the front office made the smart move and got whatever they could.
Besides now there is another open spot to take an extended look at a young guy for 2009. Let's see if Laffey can improve or if another farm hand is ready. Good move in my opinion.
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And what exactly does "trade deadline" mean! 
Players traded before the July 31st trade deadline do not have to go through waivers before they are traded. After August 1st, a player can be put on waivers and if no one claims them they can be traded. If a team claims the player, the two teams can work out a trade or they can pull the player back off of waivers...
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Uh, if the front office did their job last off season and went after a couple more players to actually get the Indians to the next level, I wouldn't be complaining. We were ONE GAME AWAY from getting to the World Series and the brilliant people in charge did absolutely NOTHING in the off season...unless you want to consider Jamey Carroll a huge acquisition. Instead of adding we're subtracting...can you say, fire sale???
I agree with everything you said.
Like it or not, this is what SMALL-MID Market teams have to do in baseball.
Don't like it? Find a new sport. As for this, I don't see why we should keep a pitcher and let him run out there the rest of this lost season instead of trading him, letting the Red Sox take on his contract, and we get money to (hopefully) put into this team next year.
No matter which side you look at this, it's a good move.
i don't like it, yet i seem to follow the tribe year in and year out...
i'm really anticipating to see what the tribe does this offseason, because if they roll out the current team they have now, and don't spend some money, they'll be staring at twice as many empty seats as they have this year.
it's an absolute joke.
mark shapiro doesn't want to use the word, rebuilding, so i'll go ahead and use it for him.
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mark shapiro doesn't want to use the word, rebuilding, so i'll go ahead and use it for him.
When you are several games below .500 and have zero shot at the playoffs ... you better be rebuilding, or at least reloading. The three guys we've traded are all free-agents this year anyway. Last I checked, we can still resign these guys back if we really wanted to. All we did was rent them out and got some compensation back in the process.
And not directed at you LBJ, but I can't believe anybody would be complaining that we lost Paul Byrd. Dear gawd, how can we ever replace him? 
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I don't think Byrd was gonna be here in 2009, so this is no big deal. We weren't gonna do anything this year, it just does Byrd a favor and gives us a chance to see our young guys get more experience.
With Blake, CC, and Byrd now gone it kinda makes me more anxious for 2009 to come already so we can see the Tribe bounce back. Gonna need a closer, another infielder and another outfielder before that can happen though. Might need one more quality starter too.
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I am glad we went out and got someone. Especially with Wakefield going on the DL. Byrd has been on fire since the all-star break. Hopefully he can pick us up a key win or two in the post-season (if we get there) 
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mark shapiro doesn't want to use the word, rebuilding, so i'll go ahead and use it for him.
I believe that is why people are upset... You are within a game of the world series and the nucleus of your team with ages is...
Sizemore 24 Martinez 28 Garko 26 Peralta 25 Hafner 30 Blake 33 Cabrera 21 Gutierrez 24 Sabathia 26 Carmona 23 Lee 28
You make no offseason moves and the following year you are rebuilding? How does that work?
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what was shipiro suppose to do?? if we traded for bay, Lee might have 20 wins now for the pirates. that was the asking price for bay. the a's wanted guiterez, cabera, and adam miller for danny haren.
the way I see it, no offseason moves could've off-set martinez, westbrook, carmona, and hafner not contributing. not to mention CC stinking it up his first few starts.
we've saved over 35 million just getting rid of CC ,Blake, and Bryd this season going into next. I could see us grabbing a starter and going hard for k-rod from the angels. heck I would be targeting both k-rod and garland from the angels. I think we should put garko on the market and play shoppach full time at catcher. that would put Victor at 1st full time.
If we do nothing this offeseason with all that money coming off, then you could get on shipiro. I see a lot of parity in baseball. if we make a few moves and get hafner and victor healthy, I could see us in the 09 world series.
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Why are people upset that we lost Paul Byrd?
He was set to become a "no-compensation" free agent. Meaning that if he signed somewhere else, we would not get any draft picks (that's what happens with a 36yr old pitcher with a career 5.00 ERA hits the market).
So, no matter what we get....kudos to Shapiro for getting someone to take care of his salary for this year and for getting something additional in return (and the spot in the rotation to check out which guy on the farm is ready for next year).
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So, the real beef seems to be that folks don't understand how we went from possible World Series champions to last in the AL Central and the arguments are being made that Shapiro didn't do enough in the offseason.
Well, what did you want him to do? We increased our payroll by extending our arbitration players. We tried to give CC the same deal (or slightly more) that Peavy accepted in SD, but he wouldn't bite. We almost got Bay, but would have given up Lee and the Pirates owner vetoed the deal anyway.
Last year, our bullpen was the backbone of our team....so, can you really fault Shapiro for keeping it together? Cabrera, Hafner, Peralta all fell off. Cabrera might have been a bit expected (soph slump is cliche for a reason), but Pronk and Peralta weren't (let alone the rest of our offense).
Then CC and Carmona struggle to start the year and we start digging a really deep hole.
I don't see how you guys fault Shapiro for this mess...he built a team on a budget and continues to make the wise move (whether or not it is popular) to keep this team stocked with as much talent as possible.
Shapiro is one of the best GM's in baseball...I wish more people would appreciate him.
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I could see us in the 09 world series.
while i dont share in your optimism, correct me if im wrong, but wasnt Paul Byrd basiically the only starting pitcher we had that actually pitched well in the playoffs.
I thought there was a good chance we would resign him
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Good posts Trella and no_logo. If only we had gone ape-poopy like the Tigers ... we could be 8.5 games out of first, instead of 11.  There's a whole lot of "coulda-woulda-shoulda", but I don't think any signings were going to help us this year. We've had a bunch of untimely injuries, and guys that did well last year not doing well this year. That's not Shapiro's fault. Heck, do you really think if we payed Tory Hunter stupid money ... something like $20 million a year, to come here, that we'd suddenly be looking at a top team?
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