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#302868 08/24/08 09:45 PM
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Eli Manning
Braylon Edwards
Bench until suspension lifted Steve Smith
Bench until suspension lifted Chris Henry
WRReggie Williams
WRAnthony Gonzo
RB Stephen JAckson
RB Darren Mcfadden
WR/RB Lawrence MAroney
TE Antonio Gates
K Shayne Grahm
Defense: New England

Bench
Limas Sweed
Ray Rice


I know my WR core will hurt without Smith and Henry, but I think I can stay afloat until Steve SMith comes back.

What do ya think?

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Your WR is definitely your weak spot at least until Smith comes back. Huge gamble on Henry IMHO unless you drafted him late. We had our draft today - 10 teams, with 6 bench players (16 total) and he went undrafted. No surprise to me. At minimum you'll be competitive, likely better than that though.

Thoughts on my team (10 team league)? I'm not sold on my RB tandem, but am happy otherwise
Starters:
QB Ben Roethlisberger
RB Jamal Lewis
RB Ronnie Brown
TE Ben Watson
WR Terrell Owens
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Chris Chambers
K Shayne Graham
D Will Witherspoon
D DJ Williams

Bench:
BN-QB Matt Hasselbeck
BN-RB Rudi Johnson
BN-RB Kevin Smith
BN-TE Donald Lee
BN-WR Dwayne Bowe
BN-WR Bobby Engram

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I'm surprised you picked Henry. Nobobdy knows what he'll do at this point, if anything at all.

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You have a nice WR corps. That's the strength of my team as well. My weak spot is my QB's, which is what hurts me every year because I draft them pretty late. My WR's are studded out, though. I'd give you a B overall, pretty solid all around. Don't know about the IDP, we don't use them, so I can't comment there.

Here's my team I just finished drafting an hour ago (10 person league, drafted 10th ):

QB1 Matt Hasselbeck
QB2 David Garrard

RB1 Joseph Addai
RB2 Jamal Lewis
RB3 Earnest Graham

WR1 Randy Moss
WR2 Larry Fitzgerald
WR3 Brandon Marshall
WR4 Lee Evans
WR5 Vincent Jackson

TE1 Tony Gonzalez
TE2 LJ Smith

K1 Rob Bironas
K2 Mason Crosby

D1 Pittsburgh
D2 Jacksonville

Free Agent pick up - Felix Jones


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Yeah my league was a 12 team 14 player league and I took henry with my 12th pick.

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Heres mine. 10 team league

Mat Hasselbeck
Steve Smith
Anquan Boldin
Santonio Holmes
Steven Jackson
Ryan Grant
Todd Heap

Rudi Johnson
Bernard Berrian
Nate Burleson
Alge crumpler
Vince Young

Adam Vinatieri
Neil Rackers

Minnesota

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you might have problems at RB, Rudi's on his way down.



here's my best team, 10 team default ESPN league:

QB: Anderson
Rivers
Quinn

RB: Peterson
Grant
F. Taylor
Fargas
C. Taylor

WR: Fitz
Holt
Roddy White
A. Gonzalez
Bryant Johnson

TE: Gates

D/ST: Colts

K: Dawson


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Yours is pretty good, here is my team:

T Brady
A Peterson
LT
Barber
R Moss
T Owens
A Gates
Gould
Vikings D

Bench
J Lewis
B Edwards
K Winslow
L Maroney
R Bush
McFadden
P Manning
L Fitzgerald

Should I be worried?

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I'd be worried that there's nobody else in the league but you.


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Here's my team:

QB
Ben Rothlesberger
Jason Campbell

RB
Brian Westbrook
Maurice Jones Drew
Julius Jones
Ray Rice

WR
Braylon Edwards
Dwayne Bowe
DJ Hackett
Reggie Williams
James Hardy

TE
Jason Witten
Kevin Boss

K
Nick Folk

DEF
Pittsburgh

12 team league, I think I did alright.

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Should I be worried?





Not at all, either you're in a 4 team league or you're in a 12 team league full of mongoloids. Which if I had to place a wager, it would be on the latter, but either way you'll be fine.

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We just drafted our league tonight. 10 teams. $100 per person. Person with the high score at the end of the year gets $200. 3rd place gets money back. 2nd place gets $250. Winner takes $450. Heres my squad. In parenthesis are the spot I drafted them.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger (53)
WR: Chad Johnson (28)
WR: Wes Welker (48)
WR: Laveranues Coles (68)
RB: Marion Barber (8)
RB: Marshawn Lynch (13)
W/R: Jamal Lewis (33)
TE: Heath Miller (93)
K: Adam Vinetieri (133)
DEF: Minnesota (73)

Bench:
WR: Patrick Crayton (88), Reggie Williams (113)
RB: Felix Jones (108), Chris Johnson (153)
DEF: Jacksonville (128)
QB: Aaron Rodgers (148)

First week projections have me with the high score. I'm feelin good about this squad.


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Fetch,

Stop playing with the mentally challenged.


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you are weak at RB IMO, not any of those guys are true "stud" FB running backs.


My only 2 real concern with my team is; Can I take 1 of 2 without Steve Smith and Is Darren McFadden the real deal? If McFadden can get me 1,100 8 TD's I should be in good shape...anything more than that will be studly.

I was sitting in the 6th round...KW2 went in the fifth...I said to myself, "self" You better take Steve smith....you can live with Heath Miller or someone....Chris Cooley goes...Dallas Clark goes....Jason Witten goes....WTF? It's my pick...Did anyone take Gates I say, "No". lol really? I'll take him....is he hurt or something....???

Anyway, I got Steve Smith solely because he was on suspension, no Idea besides his turf toe people would shy on gates.....

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What are you talking about? He has great RB's, it may only be a 10 team league, but Lynch and Barber are both 1st round rb in 12 team leagues.

I also wouldnt be surprsied if Miller outscores Gates this year.


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That's why they play the games. We will see if Barber can handle a full load and if the Bills can do anything.

Like you said, a 10 man league, so there are some other guys running around with much better combo of RB's.

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There may be someone with a better combination but I'm with 2119. There are probably more people with a worse combination of backs. Drafting in the back end of the first round I think those are very good backs. If it was 12 teams both there is no way Lynch would have gotten back to him. He should probably go in the first.

Barber probably won't have to carry the full load anyway. Felix Jones will be as much help as Julius ever was. Barber will still get most of the carries and all of the goal line carries.

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That's why they play the games. We will see if Barber can handle a full load and if the Bills can do anything.

Like you said, a 10 man league, so there are some other guys running around with much better combo of RB's.




And thats fine, you may not feel comfortable with that, but based on overall value of the picks, its a great tandem.


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Rate my team guys

12 team league.

QBs:
Tom Brady
Vince Young (only has to play 1 week lol)

RBs:
Jamal Lewis
Thomas Jones
DeAngelo Williams
Chris Johnson
Ricky Williams
Ray Rice

WRs:
Braylon Edwards
Wes Welker
Derrick Mason
Bobby Engram (damn early draft)
Devin Hester

TE:
Vernon Davis

K:
Neil Rackers

DEF:
San Diego

I didn't take a running back until the 4th round. I was taking a gamble as wide receivers get a point a catch making them in my mind a lot more valuable than usual. I just want to get your guys opinions thanks.

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I really wanted to get Thomas Jones late, but someone reached up and grabbed him while I was fiddling with WR's.

I think he is going to have a big year, Favre to take the pressure off the run game and Faneca to block....I see a big year from whoever emerges uninjured from the Jets backfield.

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You need to stay injury free to succeed, getting Jamal in rd 4 is good value, hopefully T.Jones finds the endzone more this year, if things go your way, you could be ok.

You have NO depth though, and that will probably end up hurting you because i dont think you can afford an injury at any position.


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So you'll come into the thread, rag on me for my analysis but won't analyze my team...the first team in this thread.

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Thanks, I see you posted your team so I'll return the favor.


I do agree that once you get Smith back from suspension that will help and Henry should do pretty decent as well. The thing that concerns me is your RBs actually. Stephen Jackson had that big hold out so it might take him so time to get going hopefully he'll get on track for ya. McFadden is a rookie so you never know could be boom or bust and the thing with Maroney is New England passes so much I'm unsure how many touches he'll get.

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I thought about that too, but the way I put my positive spin on it was this:

SJax was the "AP of last year" but got hurt...so I am looking for the post hype sleeper there. MCfadden will get his touches because I don't see any WR having a beast year in OAK, but my team does hinge on the success of McFadden, I agree, boom or bust...

Maroney had something like 834 rushing yards last season....he rushed for 4 consecutive 100 yard games to end the year last season, so I don't buy that they pass allot, yes, they did pass a lot, but they also score a lot so that means grinding teams down at the end of the game.....they probably won't be trying so hard to break the records this year is passing since they own them already.

I agree, my running backs all have questions marks, but they all have big potential...considering the team I am playing week 1 is starting Dwayne Bowe at his flex spot....I feel good with Maroney at my flex.

The way I see it is, my team hinges on the boom or bust of Darren Mcfadden. I went with his upside over hoping Ryan Grant can repeat, instead I took BE at the end of the second round, just couldn't pull the trigger on Ryan Grant and took Mcfadden in the 3rd.

1 pick 6: Stephen Jackson
2: Braylon
3: Mcfadden
4: Maroney
5: Steve Smith
6: Gates
7: Eli Manning
8: New Englands defense (Giants, Minnesota gone already)
9. Anthony Gonzo (With Steve Smith out I had to get WR's)
10. Reggie Williams
11. Ray Rice (Wilis Mcgahees sweet knees)
12. Chris henry (strictly upside potential pick)
13. Limas Sweed (Probably get dropped, but has looked good in preseason)
14. Shayne Grahm (Phil dawson went in round 12 before Chris Henry)

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QB- Phillip Rivers
RB- Brian Westbrook
RB- Jamal Lewis
WR- Lee Evans
WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Roy Williams
TE- Heath Miller
K- Josh Brown
DEF- Giants

Bench----

Jon Kitna
Reggie Bush
Rashard Mendenhall
Donte Stallworth
Benjamin Watson

12 team league.



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QB Eli Manning
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Darrell Jackson
RB Jamal Lewis
RB Larry Johnson
TE Tony Gonzalez
W/T L.J. Smith
BN Jabar Gaffney
BN Bobby Engram
BN Kolby Smith
BN Sidney Rice
BN Maurice Morris
BN T.J. Duckett

K David Akers

DEF Tampa Bay

20 team league, IDPs...Didn't want to bore anyone with the IDPs there were 11.

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Here's my team:

QB: Big Ben
RB: Frank Gore
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew
WR: Wes Welker
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Dwayne Bowe
TE: Todd Heap
K: Matt Stover
D/ST: Bears

BE:
DeAngello Williams
Vince Young
Jerry Porter
D/ST: Bears
Ben Watson

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I agree with you about ryan grant - i want no part of him this year, at his ADP. i'd much rather have mcgahee or jamal early in the 3rd than grant in the late 2nd. however, i think drafting mcfadden this year could also prove to be a mistake. like you said though, on the other hand he could also have a breakout year. i've found that through the years i've shifted my fantasy philosophy more and more toward experience and consistency than potential. it's the reason i'm targeting a guy like edgerrin james this year (the 10th best back of last season, which everyone seems to have forgotten) for value rather than risking a high pick on a boom or bust candidate.

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Anyone else think my team is stacked?

Play 2 QB's....took DA in the 7th round as a value pick (if you can believe that) after taking Manning and Big Ben. Apparently everyone in my league thinks he's a one year wonder. Thought he was more valuable as trade bait / insurance policy for Manning and his knee then some mid-level position player.

Also, Westbrook fell to me at #5 overall and McGahee dropped in to me in the middle of the 3rd round. Hated taking so many Steelers and Ravens but whatever.

McFaden was a flier. Grabbed Smith and Young in the later rounds to hopefully find a quality 3rd back but rolled the dice on DMC being a boom pick in round 5. Could easily do nothing.

QB Peyton Manning
QB Ben Roethlisberger

RB Brian Westbrook
RB Willis McGahee
RB/WR Darren McFadden

WR Anquan Boldin
WR Marvin Harrison
TE Benjamin Watson
D/ST Cowboys D/ST
K Mason Crosby

Bench

QB Derek Anderson
RB Selvin Young
WR Hines Ward
RB Kevin Smith

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You might have some serious problems with your WRs. Harrison's a ?? and Ward might be a liability.


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You might have some serious problems with your WRs. Harrison's a ?? and Ward might be a liability.




Yeah, I mean if Harrison is just average that's probably good for 800 yards and 7-8 or so TD's. Indy's offense is just so good that even with Wayne as the #1 option, there's still plenty of catches to go around. Took him in the 9th round I think, so not losing much if he doesn't do much. Have a high waiver priority so I'll probably nab another WR soon enough. Someone will get injured somewhere.

As for Ward, same thing. Someone has to catch passes and Ward is a favorite target in the red zone. He's not going to have a huge year but he'll be a top 30 or so guy (similar to Harrison)....which is fine when you're pairing him with a steady, top 20 guy like Boldin. Doesn't hurt Boldin is in a contract year either.

Not thrilled with either one of those guys but when you only start 2 WR's, you don't need world beaters.....especially given that my QB's should pull the rope a little harder then most teams (everyone else is so-so at QB. Not other team really has 2 good guys. Most have one good and one average). Boldin should be solid and I can scramble to find one other guy who can produce. Maybe it ends up being a rookie, who knows.

Also, I would hope 1 of 3 out of McFadden, Smith and Young will atleast be serviceable. If that's the case, they'll score more points then most WR's week in and week out at the flex position.

There was a ridiculous run on WR's TO, MOSS and Edwards all went in the top 15 so I wasn't going to reach on middle of the road guys and leave Anderson (given his value at that point) or a starting RB sitting on the board. I didn't really see how a guy like let's say, Santana Moss, was worth more then a guy like Selvin Young. If young gets mediocre numbers for a starting RB he's probably going to score more points then a majority of the middle round wideouts.

Plus, I could easily trade Big Ben or DA for a good wideout if it's a huge problem.

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Investing that much into the QB position might hurt you a bit but overall you got some nice value, specifically at RB.

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QB- Phillip Rivers
RB- Brian Westbrook
RB- Jamal Lewis
WR- Lee Evans
WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Roy Williams
TE- Heath Miller
K- Josh Brown
DEF- Giants

Bench----

Jon Kitna
Reggie Bush
Rashard Mendenhall
Donte Stallworth
Benjamin Watson

12 team league.





That's a pretty good team. Best that I've seen on here so far IMO. Solid starters all around. Your WRs remind me of my lineup (see my team above).


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You might have some serious problems with your WRs. Harrison's a ?? and Ward might be a liability.




Not to mention Boldin wants out of the desert, and didn't even dress for their last preseason game. Harrison and Boldin both dropped WAY down in our draft, something unheard of in years past.


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IMO harrison has yet to show that he's ineffective when healthy. definitely worth picking at his current position.

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Here's the first draft I did (12 team live draft):

QB - Jason Campbell
RB - Marion Barber III
RB - Marshawn Lynch
WR - Braylon Edwards
WR - Andre Johnson
WR/RB - Michael Turner
TE - Heath Miller
D/ST - Patriots
K - Neil Rackers

Bench:
QB - Kurt Warner
RB - Lendale White
RB - Matt Forte
RB - Ray Rice
WR - Joey Galloway
WR - Bryant Johnson
WR - DJ Hackett

I like my team except the QB position. I just dropped Maurice Morris for Warner since there's rumors that he's taking over for Leinart, but I'm pretty stacked at RB...


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We share some guys.

DA
Braylon
Plaxico
Barber II
LenDale
Vernon Davis
B. Marshall
Phil Dawson
New York Giants

Bench:
Dwayne Bowe
Cutler
DeAngelo Williams
Deuce McCallister
Chris Brown
Trent Edwards

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Dude, how does that even happen? There is no way those guys should still be on the board for you unless your playing with people who dont watch football, Id love to see the draft board for that disgrace.

I hope thats a money league, because you should win, even with the shaky quarterback play.


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LOL.


Here is mine, 10 teams:





QB Drew Brees
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Santonio Holmes
WR Laveranues Coles
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
TE Dallas Clark
BN LenDale White
BN David Garrard
BN Benjamin Watson
BN Derrick Mason
BN Kevin Walter
K Nate Kaeding
DEF Green Bay
BN Seattle

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Thats a good team.


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I got the first pick in my 10 person league.

My team:

Big Ben
LT
Brandon Jacobs
Andre Johnson
Calvin Johnson
Jason Witten
Nate Kaeding
Dallas D

Bench:
Julius Jones
Santana Moss
Phillip Rivers
David Garrard
Deshaun Jackson

I know I'm pretty thin at WR, and RB..................but I got me some QB's-----LOL; kinda dumb. But I felt like I needed someone to step in if Ben gets hurt behind his revamped OL. Deshaun was my super-sleeper, I may drop him for Devin Thomas though.


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It's a pay league that I won last year. About half the people know what they're doing. Someone took Manning and Romo and the first two rounds. Someone took Minnesota's D in the 3rd. Everyone likes taking QB's really early for some reason so I end up with slim pickings there, but get stacked on RB/WR's. I got Barber with the 9th pick, Braylon in 2nd, Lynch 3rd and Andre Johnson 4th...


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