DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum ....and now we give you a replay of the 2005 Hurricane season....

I might as well book my tickets to Louisiana now....

why? you into kite surfing?

Nope he is looting

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Nope he is looting

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I'm looking for a 8x 10 aluminum shed, grab one as it fly's bye will ya

And now the next storm.....I give you Tropical Storm Hanna (no, not Montana)....




With 2 more waves coming off of Africa as we speak...Gonna be a real big season it seems.

This one worries me, not because of strength, but because of time frame. My wife and I fly out of Miami Saturday AM the 6th for Italy, I'd hate for this storm to interfere with us leaving.

I'll watch it, and may just buy 2 tickets to Philly the night before if need be and catch our connecting flight out of Philly. Which would suck because I'm supposed to go to a buddies wedding Friday night the 5th, that I would have to miss, and I was supposed to play guitar for a song he wrote for his fiancee.

Are sure you guys don't want to move back to Ohio

Nah, we get hurricane days like you all get snow days, but we get time to plan parties with the pre-warning.

No thank you. While you're starting your car 10 mins before you have to leave for work in the wintertime, I'll still be in shorts and a tank top enjoying the sunshine and beautiful weather.

While you're up there dodging pot holes (or not, cause snow fills them in), I'll be at the beach enjoying the bikini clad women.

My car stays in the warm garage I never wear shorts (don't like them) and I prefer the shade to the sun.

Now while your at the beach watching woman your not allowed to touch, while your beer is boiling in the heat. I'll just stay here and enjoy my beer slushy

If your beer wasn't so watered down, it wouldn't be slushy.

I...I...I... damn you got me

screw that.... I'd much rather watch a bikini from a beach chair, than watch a parka from behind a snowblower.


If I can ever find a way to do it without financially screwing myself, I'm moving south.

Now Purp. You know OLD people move to florida. Picture myself, and Barbara Bush on the beach wearing thongs. You will be begging for parkas

That's why God made Hurricanes GM... to wash those views away.

If you ain't young enough or strong enough to hold on to something, well... then it's your time

and if your not fat enough, the winds going to blow you away like the flying Nun

Thats it. I'm staying out of Florida

Yea,,,I'm hoping Hanna misses us, this season is really heating up..

I'm suppose to be coming home to see the cowboys game, but gustav might threaten my plans. I have a flight out of new orleans wednesday morning going to memphis, then pittsburgh. I live in mobile, al, but tickets out of new orleans are so cheap I fly out of there.

I know the folks down here are real tense. Like Duece Mcalister said, "it's out of our hands."

we'll see how it goes.

I'll put some in a christmas tin, and send it to you for christmas

Uh, wouldn't the tin corrode before it got there?

It would have to shipped on special vehicles marked for hazardous waste.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26459330/


WASHINGTON - The difference between a monster and a wimp for Gulf of Mexico hurricanes often comes down to a small patch of warm deep water that's easy to miss. It's called the Loop Current, and hurricane trackers say Gustav is headed right for it, reminiscent of Katrina.

Gustav is likely to reach this current late Saturday, experts say. What happens next will be crucial, maybe deadly.

If Gustav hits the Loop Current and lingers in that hot spot, watch out. If the storm misses it or zips through the current, then Gustav probably won't be much of a name to remember.

The meandering Loop Current, located in the southeastern gulf, provides loads of hurricane fuel. It was a key stopover for nearly all the Gulf Coast killers of the past, including Katrina and Camille, said Florida International University professor Hugh Willoughby, former director of the government's hurricane research division.

Lynn "Nick" Shay, University of Miami meteorology and oceanography professor, flew over the gulf Thursday in a federal hurricane research plane to measure the Loop Current. He saw Gustav's forecast track going "right down the throat" of it.

'Scary' view
"That's kind of the scary part here," Shay said. "You look at this and say, 'Boy I hope this thing doesn't really explode,' but it probably will."

It happened in 2005. "Katrina went over the Loop Current and intensified rapidly," said Mark DeMaria, a Colorado-based expert on hurricane strength with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Then less than a month later a weak tropical storm named Rita followed Katrina into the Loop Current. Thirty hours later it was a Category 5 monster.

Both Katrina and Rita later weakened — which often happens — to Category 3 storms by landfall.

In the last several years, meteorologists have focused more attention on the Loop Current, which is only a couple of hundred miles long and not even 100 miles wide. The evidence linking it to the worst storms is beyond circumstantial, Shay said.

Boy, I hope it doesn't hit New Orleans.

I hope it doesn't intensify either, because I don't want to see anyone's life in danger, but specifically New Orleans. America will be on edge to see what will happen if it does hit New Orleans.

It grew in both size and intensity overnight; it is now a cat. 3 with 125 mph winds. As soon as it goes through Cuba I think that there will be Hurricane watches issued for the gulf coast, most likely late tonight or the 5 am advisory tomorrow morning.

holy crap.... someone's been giving it too many Wheaties.

Must be the puppy chow.

j/c

I have a feeling that, no matter what, they are going to completely "overreact" in New Orleans. I'm not saying that it's not going to hit NO. I'm not saying they shouldn't evacuate or take precautions. All I'm saying is I won't be surprised to see them just completely go overboard with it, from the city level government to the federal level government.

Talk about a PR nightmare if another hurricane hits NO and there are similar disastrous results.

But I am praying that something happens to weaken this storm so people aren't in serious danger.

They are doing the right thing in NO - getting everyone out... every projection I've seen has it going close to there... man I hate for it to hi LA, but I REALLY hope it doesn't come here... I don't want to go into work on Monday!

After what happened with Katrina, I don't think that you could over react. Remember, Katrina hit east of NOLA near Mobile, Ala at about 115 mph at landfall. New Orleans was on the left hand or weaker side of the storm. It is looking now as the fed and local governments are looking at the situation, that Gus will hit just west with 130-140 mph at landfall. You have to evacuate. Also, remember it is just not where the storm hits but there are tropical storm winds, rain and tornadoes in Florida tonight which is probably 100-150 miles from the center of the storm.
And they are not sure if the levees can handle a storm surge higher than a cat. 2.

The weather models this afternoon are calling for a storm mid day tomorrow with winds of 160 mph and waves of 36-42 feet high. Even if the storm weakens to a cat 2 at land fall, that is alot of water that will be getting pushed up the gulf towards Houston all the way to the Florida panhandle.

If the levies can't hold this time around, they should let new orleans sink for good. that's not the american way, but I see no point in throwing billions upon billions when you can't protect the city and residents from devastating hurricanes. the city is still tore up from katrina, I can't see people wanting to go back if gustav brings even more flooding and destruction.

I just can't wait until the hurricane gets here and is over with. it's real intense waiting for this thing to finally come. I'm defintely on edge. I will try to drive to memphis to catch my flight to pittsburgh. I don't want to spend my vaction, in a potential hurricane area, with another one possibly on the way.

Considering that everyone has there differences here in tailgate with regards to politics, sports, etc.. I think that we all need to step back and keep all who live in the gulf coast area in our prayers and also for their safe passage from this storm.....

My hopes and prayers go out to those living on the Gulf Coast. Hope they manage to pull through... One good thing to be said, it sounds like evacuations were a reasonable success.

i'm glad to see that area of the country learned from 2 years ago...

Prayers on the way

NEW ORLEANS - A weakened Hurricane Gustav closed in on flood-prone coastal Louisiana Monday, bringing punishing wind and sheets of rain. But the storm veered away from New Orleans, where only a few holdouts and those that refused to abandon Bourbon Street remained.


Gusts snapped large branches from the majestic oak trees that form a canopy over St. Charles Avenue. Tens of thousands were without power in New Orleans and other low-lying parishes, but officials in said backup generators were keeping city drainage pumps in service.

But as a nervous nation watched to see if Gustav would deliver another Katrina-style hit on the partially rebuilt city, officials steadfastly insisted three years of planning and infrastructure upgrades had prepared them for whatever was to come.

"We don't expect the loss of life, certainly, that we saw in Katrina," Federal Emergency Management Agency Deputy Director Harvey E. Johnson told The Associated Press. "But we are expecting a lot of homes to be damaged, a lot of infrastructure to be flooded, and damaged severely."

On the high ground in the French Quarter, nasty winds whipped signs and the purple, green and gold Mardi Gras flags hanging from cast-iron balconies. Like the rest of the city, the Quarter's normally boisterous streets were deserted save for a police standing watch every few blocks and a few early-morning drinkers in the city's famous bars.

"We wanted to be part of a historic event," said Benton Love, 30, stood outside Johnny White's Sports Bar with a whiskey and Diet Coke. "We knew Johnny White's would be the place to be. We'll probably switch to water about 10 o'clock, sober up, and see if we can help out."

FEMA estimated there were only about 10,000 people left in the city, and the state said about 100,000 remained on the coast. Nearly 2 million people answered the call to leave south Louisiana in the days before Gustav's arrival, a massive evacuation effort designed to avoid the nearly 1,600 deaths suffered when Hurricane Katrina struck an unprepared Gulf Coast in 2005.

Police superintendent Warren Riley said there had been no reports of looting or calls for rescue. Public officials sternly warned in the days leading up to the storm that anyone leaving their homes after a dawn-to-dusk curfew was imposed would be swiftly thrown behind bars.

"We're determined to keep this city safe for our people," he said.

Evacuees watched television coverage from shelters and hotel rooms hundreds of miles away, praying the powerful Category 3 storm and its 115-mph winds would pass without the exacting the deadly toll as Katrina, which killed more than 1,600 along the Gulf Coast.

"We're nervous, but we just have to keep trusting in God that we don't get the water again," said Lyndon Guidry, who hit the road for Florida just a few months after he was able to return to his home in New Orleans. "We just have to put our faith in God."

Harmonica player J.D. Hill said he was standing in line Monday morning to get into a public shelter in Bossier City in northwest Louisiana after waiting on a state-provided evacuation bus that carried him to safety.

Hill was the first resident of the Musicians' Village, a cluster of homes Harry Connick Jr. and fellow New Orleans musician Branford Marsalis built through Habitat for Humanity after Hurricane Katrina. The village provides affordable housing for musicians and others who lost their homes in Katrina's flooding.

He described a frustrating scene outside the shelter, where elderly evacuees and young children had to wait to be searched and processed before going inside.

"There's the funky bus bathrooms, people can't sleep, we're not being told anything. We're at their mercy," he said.

Gustav killed at least 94 people as it tore through the Caribbean before moving into the oil-rich Gulf. Billions of dollars were at stake, as Gustav threatened industries ranging from sugar to shipping. If production is significantly interrupted from the region's refineries and offshore oil and gas platforms, price spikes could hit all Americans at the pump.

Officials promised they were ready to respond this time. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said search and rescue would be the top priority once the storm passed: high-water vehicles, helicopters and fixed-wing planes, Coast Guard cutters and a Navy vessel that is essentially a floating emergency room were posted around the strike zone.

"It's amazing. It makes me feel really good that so many people are saying, 'We as Americans, we as the world, have to get this right this time,'" New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said. "We cannot afford to screw up again."

Even presidential politics bowed to the storm, as the Republican Party scaled back its convention plans in deference to Gustav's threat. Battered by criticism that the government's response to Katrina was inadequate, President Bush scrapped his Monday appearance at the convention and instead headed to Texas to monitor the storm.

Gustav weakened Monday to a Category 2 storm as its eyewall rolled onto land. Katrina made landfall as a strong Category 3, which has sustained winds of between 111 mph and 130 mph.

At 8 a.m. EDT, the storm's center was located about 85 miles south of New Orleans and was moving northwest at 16 mph. It had top sustained winds of 110 mph.

The city of Franklin, about 100 miles west of New Orleans, was bracing for a direct hit if Gustav stays on its current track. Dozens of sheriff's deputies, along with state troopers and guardsmen, waited at an emergency operations center inside the courthouse.

"We don't rely on backup. If it comes, great, but we don't trust the federal government. They can never get it quite right," said state Rep. Sam Jones.

He estimated that at least three-quarters of the city's roughly 9,000 residents evacuated. For good reason: Three years ago, Hurricane Rita flooded up to 200 homes in the city.

In Plaquemines Parish, south of New Orleans, officials built an emergency levee to prevent flooding along a highway that runs along the Mississippi River, sheriff's spokesman Maj. John Marie said.

But it was extremely quiet. "It's really remarkable, we got almost everybody out," he said.

In New Orleans, officials were anxiously watching to see what kind of storm surge the city would face: If forecasts hold, the city could experience a storm surge of only 4 to 6 feet, compared to a surge of 10 to 14 feet at the site of landfall, said Corey Walton, a hurricane support meteorologist with the National Hurricane Center.

Katrina, by comparison, brought a storm surge of 25 feet, causing levees to break. While the Army Corps of Engineers has shored up some of the city's levee system since then, fears this time center on the city's West Bank, where levee repairs have not been completed.

Gustav was the seventh named storm in the Atlantic hurricane season. The eighth, Tropical Storm Hanna, was strengthening about 100 miles from the Bahamas. Though a storm's track and intensity are difficult to predict days in advance, long-term projections showed the storm could come ashore along the border of Georgia and South Carolina late in the week.

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Associated Press writers Becky Bohrer, Janet McConnaughey, Robert Tanner, Cain Burdeau, Alan Sayre, and Allen G. Breed contributed to this report from New Orleans. Vicki Smith in Houma and Doug Simpson in Baton Rouge also contributed. Michael Kunzelman reported from Lafayette, La.