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Ouch..it's the dreaded patella tendon tear.. 
They did resign Orr..
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Browns linebacker Antwan Peek suffered a torn patella tendon in his knee during Wednesday's practice and is out for the season.
Browns coach Romeo Crennel said the injury occurred on a "freak" play during practice and that Peek was having surgery to repair the tendon Thursday morning.
Peek will be placed on injured-reserve. The Browns plan to re-sign Shantee Orr, who was released last weekend, to replace Peek.
Crennel said the team hopes to have Orr signed in time for him to participate in Thursday's practice. He said both Orr and rookie Alex Hall will play in Sunday's season opener against the Cowboys.
Peek had 4 sacks last year, his first with the Browns.
MAN! What is it with this damn team and "freak" injuries??? It seems everytime we turn around someone new is going down over smething freak in nature. Well, a lot of people were suprised that we left Orr go. Now he gets his chance to shine.
Unreal,,this guy just can't stay on the field.
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WOW,, just saw that on the main page,, too bad,, that poor guy has had a tough time..
I agree with others that have already said it,, Orr needs resigned quickly.
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If my recollection serves me right, Captains are VOTED by the team, not chosen.
If the team respects him enough to vote him in, that should be good enough for you.
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Guess we'll have to start calling him Courtney Peek..talk about injury prone..
I feel for him. I have a feeling his career is probably done.
I made a post earlier in the thread, and I'm still wondering this ... what is it about some guys where they just can't stay healthy? Is there some type of medical explanation for this? It can't be a coincidence that everytime players like Brown and Peek set foot on the field that they were hurt.
You could look at it the other way too. There are some guys that are on the field every game, year in and year out. Personally, I think these guys are freaks.. awesome joints, tendons, ligaments, super resilient muscles, etc. Combine that with great training and nutritional habits, and some guys can really take some hits and get twisted up like a pretzel and still come out OK. Then you have other guys that are constantly banged up. Sure, there's a certain amount of luck involved, but either their body just isn't as nimble, or their training or nutritional programs aren't as sound, maybe a combination of all the above.
I think a lot of the real-injury prone guys are weeded out in HS or college football though, and you're really seeing the best of the best. Hence, why guys like Peek really stick out.
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why do people always think the captain of a team has to be the best player?
andra davis has been on this team longer than anyone else on that defense...
although he drives us nuts, he's for the most part, stayed off the injury report, he's always been total class (other than swinging AND missing at a giants player) and he's been through the good, the bad, and most certainly, the downright ugly with this team
he's an obvious choice.
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I hope we can break this injury bug. It has been a rough season thus far as far as that is concerned.
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Wow, 3 guys with patellar tears in the last 3 years in Cleveland. Unreal.
And the injury report is way too long. We can't go into a season like this with guys not getting on the field. I hope they all stay healthy.
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It was hinted at earlier in the thread,...are we doing something incorrectly in the conditioning and nutrition aspects of off-season training ??
I really like to believe not; so otherwise we have the worst bad luck in the NFL. It's rotten, but everything has a cycle.
Hang in there folks.
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I think for a number of years it felt that way, but last year, we were relatively lucky in terms of injuries.. yeah, we had a few, hard to escape without a few, but in the overall scheme of things it wasn't horrible.
The media picks up this kinda thinking everytime there is a rash of injuries. If you listen to Savages presser on the 30th, he makes some good sense of it all. I won't tell you what all he said, its easier and better if you listen for yourself.
But essentially, he makes it clear that the type of Preseason schedule probably had more to do with injuries than camp issues.
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Hate to say it but I am not the least bit surprised. On a positive note Hall is healthy and the more reps he gets the better it is for this team. Kid has serious skills just needs experience but to be honest he is already our best OLB in coverage and he can get to the QB. He isnt lost in the run game either. Kid is better than Peek and McGinnest anyway.
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I was thinking that Peeks injury allows Hall to develop and get reps..
If his head is anywhere near his skill level we have a surprise pass rusher to throw at people..
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how long was peek signed for? if the kid can't stay healthy and hall shows promise this could be the beginning of the end for him.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Just clickin,
Phil needs to find us a OLB pronto. At the rate we are going, we might have to switch to a 4-3 due to lack of LBs.
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I'm Attack Dawg and I approve this message...
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When I saw this the first thing I said to my dad was that I bet we sign Orr. I think that'd be the right move for us to make.
It hurts us that he's gone. I was counting on him to help us get some pass rush. Now we have to rely on a 7th round draft pick from a D2 school. Oh goody.  I do like Hall, but as I mentioned, you can't expect a 7th round rookie to contribute much.
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Now we have to rely on a 7th round draft pick from a D2 school.
Please, there are plenty of D-1a and D-II players in this league. If Hall can play, it does not matter where he came from. He might be the steal of the entire draft if he makes some good contributions!!
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Just clicking....
Under over on how many staph infection surgeries Peek will need after this?
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On the main site, Cleveland Browns.com it says we resigned Orr 
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I said I liked Hall, but do you honestly think that we can rely on him? No way you can expect him to come in and contribute right away.
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I said I liked Hall, but do you honestly think that we can rely on him? No way you can expect him to come in and contribute right away.
That is why they signed Shantee Orr.
you had a good run Hank.
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True. But I see Orr more as depth and a special teamer than as a starter.
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I said I liked Hall, but do you honestly think that we can rely on him? No way you can expect him to come in and contribute right away.
Hey, you have to play the cards you're dealt. Nobody has solid depth at every single position and we have been hit with a lot of injuries. Sometimes you have to make due with less than the ideal.. what we really need is for the DL and DQ and KW and others to step up and help fill the void...
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Ditto that... Welcome back Shantee. 
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You are right. There is no denying that this injury hurts us, but we can get past it.
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Over/Under at 2......take the Over. 
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Wow, 3 guys with patellar tears in the last 3 years in Cleveland. Unreal.
My personal suspicion on this is that there is some sort of machine or some sort of specialized exercise that we are asking our players to do that is designed to target specific muscle groups but that is so specialized it is not strengthening the surrounding tendons and support structures.
I have no proof of this of course, but I've been a personal trainer and an amateur athlete long enough to see this kind of thing happen in other instances where athletes use specialized machines too much and get hurt because of it.
That's the first thing I thought when Baxter tore both his on a single play -- just by jumping 2 feet off the ground.
I'm sure the conditioning staff is smart enough to figure it out if this is the actual problem. Otherwise, I'd be instituting mandatory squat routines to strengthen leg tendons.
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Sucks to lose what could have been very solid pass rush for the Browns. I do like Hall but I don't know how much contribution he will make? I hope a lot!
I know we resigned Orr but there's a few other names still available:
Jeramiah Trotter, Ian Gold, Roosevelt Colvin, Takeo Spikes, Junior Seau, Shawn Barber, Warrick Holdman, (yes the same one we had a few years ago, lol.) and Kendrell Bell. Though I doubt we call any of them, possibly Colvin?
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From the main site,, Orr is signed and on his way back up here.. Quote:
Hall, Orr in spotlight after Peek's injury
Steve King, Staff Writer
09.04.2008
When Browns outside linebacker Antwan Peek went down with a season-ending knee injury in practice on Wednesday, it's possible that nobody's lives changed more than those of Browns rookie linebacker Alex Hall and second-year linebacker Shantee Orr.
Hall, a seventh-round draft choice from tiny, 1,500-student St. Augustine College, was expecting to ease into the flow of things in his first NFL season. And Orr, a veteran who was released by the Browns on Saturday in the final roster cutdown, wasn't even sure when -- or if -- he'd be playing again this season. He was back home in Houston.
"I was loving it," he said Thursday. "It was 100 degrees. I played golf all day Tuesday."
But Orr can put his clubs away for a while, as the Browns wasted no time in re-signing him and summoning him back to Cleveland after Peek's injury. With Peek out, Orr and Hall will both have roles on Sunday supporting starter Willie McGinest when the Browns square off against the Dallas Cowboys at Cleveland Browns Stadium in the regular-season opener.
Browns head coach Romeo Crennel said the club is still trying to define exact roles for all three players, but said Hall and Orr will both definitely play.
The reason for the Browns' indecision is certainly understandable, because Peek was a do-everything kind of linebacker in that he was big and strong enough to play in run support and fast and athletic enough to handle pass coverage.
Now with the wise McGinest, 36 years old and a 15-year pro, the inexperienced Hall and Orr, possibly known more for his special teams play, the Browns are trying to piece together all of Peek's qualities as best they can in going against a talent-laden Cowboys offense.
"Peek will be a tough guy to replace," Browns center Hank Fraley.
But Hall is ready for the challenge.
"I'm doing a cannonball," Hall joked before practice Thursday of the timetable for his development being put on fast-forward. "But this is a great opportunity for me. They didn't bring me in here just to stand around."
Well, maybe that was the plan for the first game or two until he got his feet wet, but not anymore.
Hall, though, is not afraid of the challenge. Since the moment he came to the Browns, he's shown he doesn't lack for confidence, nor should he.
"He's got a lot of uipside potential," said longtime Browns radio analyst Doug Dieken, who, in also playing 14 seasons at left tackle for the club, has seen, and gone against, a lot of pass-rushing outside linebackers.
With a big frame -- he's 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds -- and his long arms, Hall is going to make life miserable for tackles at some point. Maybe that point will begin to arrive on Sunday. Who knows?
While admitting he'll be feeling the jitters as kickoff approaches on Sunday -- "I'm nervous before every game," he said -- Hall knows from having been through training camp and the preseason and going against the likes of offensive tackles Joe Thomas, a Pro Bowler, and Kevin Shaffer, that he can play in the NFL.
Orr has already proven that. The Michigan product, now in his fifth season, said he was surprised the Browns cut him.
"I think a lot of people were surprised, but that's behind me now," Orr said.
Browns general manager Phil Savage said Saturday after the cuts that Orr was beaten out by Hall but could be back. Savage wasn't thinking about an injury -- especially one so soon -- making that possible, but that's the way it happened.
Crennel likes the fact that, in this kind of emergency, the Browns were able to find someone in Orr who already knows the system, players and coaches. He won't need a crash course on the defense or a floor plan to find his way around Browns Headquarters. He'll only have to pick up where he left off on Thursday night when the he and the Browns concluded the preseason with a 16-10 loss to the Chicago Bears.
This wasn't how this week of preparation for the opener was supposed to go. But the Browns should be used to it, because they've been battling injuries since cornerback Daven Holly was lost for the year with a knee problem back in the spring.
And how soon Hall and Orr can get used to it as well could have a lot to say about how well the Browns defense plays against Dallas.
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Peek is out for the season....
He may never play like he was hyped up to be fore the Browns....
Sorry to hear about this. That must really stink for the Browns. Hopefully the surgery is successful and he can come back next year.
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I think it's funny that Fraley said that Peek will be a hard guy to replace. Now, I know he's just saying the safe thing, but did we really ever see enough of Peek to know what a solid contributor he'd be?
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I think it's funny that Fraley said that Peek will be a hard guy to replace. Now, I know he's just saying the safe thing, but did we really ever see enough of Peek to know what a solid contributor he'd be?
WE may not have seen a lot of Peek but the players and coaches see way more. And those professional eyes spend all their lives around football. So it's safe to say they knew he had talent.
Sucks for Peek. I feel really bad for him.
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Now we have to rely on a 7th round draft pick from a D2 school.
Please, there are plenty of D-1a and D-II players in this league. If Hall can play, it does not matter where he came from. He might be the steal of the entire draft if he makes some good contributions!!
True, but they don't typically make any noise on the opening game of their NFL careers....
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It hurts us that he's gone. I was counting on him to help us get some pass rush
You were?
I wasn't ..Peek is injury prone...Phil rolled the dice on him as a low cost alternative..he is o.k..but it's not really the type of loss that destroys anything.
I'd rather see Hall and Orr develop as the pass rushers...and it seems Hall plays the run a bit better ..Peek was not a solid run stuffer..
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It hurts us that he's gone. I was counting on him to help us get some pass rush
You were?
I wasn't ..Peek is injury prone...Phil rolled the dice on him as a low cost alternative..he is o.k..but it's not really the type of loss that destroys anything.
I'd rather see Hall and Orr develop as the pass rushers...and it seems Hall plays the run a bit better ..Peek was not a solid run stuffer..
I hate to say it like this because I don't wish injury on anybody, but this could end up being a good thing for us if Hall turns out to be a real player. I'd like to think that despite injury if Hall was the better player, he'd play, but I think RAC puts too much emphasis on experience. He plays the 'assume' card way too much and assumes that talented guys won't be able to get it done when the real bullets fly because they don't have the experience.
I believe in the baptism by fire approach - albeit not so much with QBs. I've always found learning on the job, making mistakes in real life situations, then being able to apply the lessons learned from those mistakes is invaluable and greatly speeds up the learning curve. I just don't think that watching from the sidelines does a whole lot for a guy with potential.
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Just clicking...Another freakin Patella??? This is very eeeriee or should we say Lake eeeerriiiee. I mean how many Patella ruptures were there in the NFL over the last two years....We have 4 (Baxter had 2 of them) the rest of the NFL???
Are we wearing the wrong cleats?
As for Peek...well you can't lose what you never had. So we lost nothing.
As for Hall...the kid is the real deal and he will be playing over the newly re-acquired Shantee Orr who was Golfing on his few days of vacation after cuts.
Thought we would bring back McMillan but either we totally gave up on him or he got signed by another team already.
The little I did see of Peek healthy...early last season prior to the opener (preseason) he could have been effective.
I think BE got it right...do 90% of your conditioning in the swimming pool
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True. But I see Orr more as depth and a special teamer than as a starter.
Which is what Peek was...Peek wasn't a starter.
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I think the emergence of Hall made Phil and Rac forget about McMillian who hasn't done anything at all.
Orr seems to be a better all around backup than Peek..more physical.
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Just clicking...Another freakin Patella??? This is very eeeriee or should we say Lake eeeerriiiee. I mean how many Patella ruptures were there in the NFL over the last two years....We have 4 (Baxter had 2 of them) the rest of the NFL???
Are we wearing the wrong cleats?
It isn't that uncommon, though it is odd that we've had 3 instances now.
Cadillac Williams just tore his. Jason Simmons of the Texans tore his last year. Jason Campbell dislocated his last year and I'm pretty sure there was one or two torn in Arizona last season as well.
Browns is the Browns
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hate to see something like this happen to anybody. this guy has some real bad luck, i don't think he missed much of any time at all before coming here (same with baxter). just hope he doesn't get a staph infection.. 
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