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Well, it depends on what questioning you're answering.
There is the DA vs. Quinn debate. Then there is the DA vs. DA debate.
I was answering the former. And I think the point is valid. If we still hadn't seen Quinn play much or if Quinn had absolutely lit up the preseason, I think it's reasonable there might have been chants at the stadium - even though DA didn't play all that bad. But some of that mystery has been solved. The DA vs. Quinn debates have died down substantially, and that coincided with Quinn's performance in the preseason.
You're right, however, that whether or not DA becomes a great quarterback and overcomes his shortcomings is independent of that. But that's not what I was talking about.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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There were people in and around my section chanting Brady at the game Sunday - which was way off base, but when the offense can't move the ball the QB is always the target for some people.
I don't think he OR Edwards should be on the hotseat. Braylon just had an off game - it happens.
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DA is not on the hot seat yet. He better win this week, though and not because he will be on the hot seat. He better win because it's Pittsburgh. 
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DA is on the hot seat ...and not really because of Qunn...
Regardless of the backup , DA has to prove he's a quality QB worth starting..
It's his show to win or lose.
Thats the thing a lot of media and fans don't get.
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I just prefer we don't light a fire under the seat until game 3 or 4. 
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DA looked very good?
Was anyone watching the game I was?
Less than 50% completions drops be damned every team has drops. Off target passes that led to drops.
Heck he did everything but throw a pick. Anderson "looking good" would have entailed AT LEAST a nice run at a comback in the second half.
What I saw from Tony Romo that I don't see from DA is accuracy....plain and simple and oyu will find the best QB's in the league, are the most accurate.
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Yes, BE dropped 4 passes. But most if not all of those came when DA was hot and completing his passes. In that span of 20 or so playing minutes where he did not complete ONE pass (Which sorry, to me eliminates the term he played "WELL" for me) I don't think there was one drop but I'm not 100% certain.
1-15-CLE 33 (9:40) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete deep middle to 82-S.Heiden. Bad pass. Wide open Heiden
3-4-CLE 44 (8:50) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete short right to 17-B.Edwards.
This was the play where Edwards didn't seem to know the audible. It was a little high, but very catchable.
1-15-CLE 22 (6:37) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete short left to 17-B.Edwards [95-T.Johnson].
Do you remember this one?
2-15-CLE 22 (6:31) (Shotgun) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete short middle to 17-B.Edwards. Penalty on CLE-17-B.Edwards, Illegal Shift, declined.
I don't remember this one either.
3-15-CLE 22 (6:25) (Shotgun) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete short right to 29-J.Wright (21-A.Jones).
Was this the one where it had a chance of being picked? I think so.
This whole drive escapes me.Looks like he it was on him, I just can't remember. Is it possible he threw away any of these balls?
3-2-DAL 43 (11:30) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete deep left to 17-B.Edwards. 1st pass attempt in 10 minutes.
1-10-CLE 33 (6:17) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete short left to 35-J.Harrison (90-J.Ratliff) [90-J.Ratliff].
3-4-CLE 39 (5:29) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete deep left to 29-J.Wright (42-A.Henry).
1-25-CLE 22 (14:34) 3-D.Anderson pass incomplete short middle to 12-S.Steptoe This ball should have been caught. It was not a good throw, but very catchable.
3-10-CLE 37 (13:50) (Shotgun) 3-D.Anderson pass short right to 12-S.Steptoe to CLE 49 for 12 yards (26-K.Hamlin, 90-J.Ratliff).
The streak finally ends. From 12:48 in the 2nd quarter to 13:50 in the 4th without a completeion. That is not good. Now only two balls were thrown to Braylon (that were incomplete) before this streak started. No passes were thrown afterwards, so I am assuming two of the drops were during the streak.
He missed 9 in a row, but I attribute 3 to drops. That still isn't good. I erased the game so I wouldn't wate my time doing this crap, yet here I am.  I don't know if any of the other 6 were thrown away intentionally. The major reason he didn't complete any passes during that span was because he went 10 min. between attempts.
I do not think he looked good. Going off my memory I would say ok is where his game should be graded.
I also think we aren't hearing fans clamouring for Quinn because of his preseason preformance. The thing is, Quinn didn't look nearly as bad as some people think he did. He looked shaky the 1st half of his 1st ever start, but finished that game strong. I hear Jules saying that she thinks Quinn's performance had nothing to do with how people are reacting to DA, and my opinion is that she is dead wrong. I live in northeast Ohio, and I hear what is being said by the casual fans. They are the ones that were driving the lunacy (with help from the media).
I agree with Jules when she says that people are giving DA time because he earned it...When it comes to this board. Even on here we heard a small contingent of fans who came out and said the QB debate was dead because Quinn sucked. There was no debte in the Browns org. and there still isn't. However, if DA starts to look worse then what he did in the offseason, there should be. I am not advocating that DA should lose his job after a couple of games, but that doesn't mean that the Browns shouldn't constantly be evaluating him and Quinn. This is DA's team, and should be at this point. If he has a good year Quinn will be gone. If not, DA is gone. I beleive DA should remain the starter for the whole year unless he crumbles. That doesn't mean that I think he should be here next year no matter what if he makes it through the season.
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I beleive DA should remain the starter for the whole year unless he crumbles.
What does "crumble" mean to you?
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He better win this week, though and not because he will be on the hot seat. He better win because it's Pittsburgh
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DA is on the hot seat ...and not really because of Qunn...
Regardless of the backup , DA has to prove he's a quality QB worth starting..
It's his show to win or lose.
Thats the thing a lot of media and fans don't get.
Well put.
And because of this, because it's in the back of everyone's mind, including DA himself I'm sure ... I believe the FO has done everything to make it "comfortable" for him, including doing their best to squash a QB debate ... trying to provide an environment where we can get to the truth. The fact the Quinn did not play particularly well in preseason was kind of a blessing in disguise, I believe. There won't be as much pressure from the fans as there would have been otherwise.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I beleive DA should remain the starter for the whole year unless he crumbles.
What does "crumble" mean to you?
I really don't know how to explain it. I guess something like we saw out of Grossman a couple of years ago. I think we should forget about Quinn being his backup for this year. Think of his backup being a Jim Sorgi or Matt Cassell type. Give DA a leash that would be as long if they are his backup and not a 1st round pick who hasn't had a chance to play yet.
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DA is on the hot seat ...and not really because of Qunn...
Regardless of the backup , DA has to prove he's a quality QB worth starting..
It's his show to win or lose.
Thats the thing a lot of media and fans don't get.
Well put.
And because of this, because it's in the back of everyone's mind, including DA himself I'm sure ... I believe the FO has done everything to make it "comfortable" for him, including doing their best to squash a QB debate ... trying to provide an environment where we can get to the truth. The fact the Quinn did not play particularly well in preseason was kind of a blessing in disguise, I believe. There won't be as much pressure from the fans as there would have been otherwise.
I agree with both of you. The front office, the coaches and the team have said "this is DA's team". The contract is there - everything.
Now, it's all on DA to show they are/were right. Quinn has even been an ideal backup - keeps his mouth shut, plays when needed, etc.
There is NO qb controversy at this point in time, and there won't be as long as DA holds up his end of the bargain. That's all a starting qb. can ask for. I think the whole situation has been handled about as perfectly as can be.
DA does well, he's "it". If he stinks for half the season, then he's not "it".
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But neither one is his backup. A 1st round highly paid draft pick is his backup. And frankly, DA isn't Brady or Manning. Hell, at this point we're not even sure he's better than Cassell or Jim Sorgi (well, probably Sorgi....).
Of course, DA is on the hot seat. Right now it's only lukewarm. Look bad on Sunday night and the temperature increases exponentially. Etc., etc., etc.
Heck, tha way we've looked so far in the preseason and last week everyone's tush should be red.......
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The hot seat??
Our whole organization is on the hot seat.. We do not need to win every game but we need to show up.. We did not show up last week. This week we have the 1st of many Prime Time games and if we come out and lay an egg again... Wow, it is going to get interesting.
Let's face it, we received a lot of love this offseason but when push came to shove with many of the "experts" did not pick us to do a whole lot this year.. In fact, there were many that feel we should not have gotten as many prime time games as we did. I have seen and heard some pick us to win the divsion but I have been hearing a alot of 9-7, 8-8, 7-9 talk as well..
This team needs to forget expectations and play the way they can play. Everything else will take care of itself.
It all starts Sunday night, under the lights of prime time, at home, against a divsion rival that has OWNED us for since we have been back in the league. If we come out flat and get blown out, DA is not the only one that will be on the hot seat...
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He looked as decent as everybody else. I don't think he looked particularly sharp but when you have drive killing drops and your defense can't get you the ball back, it's hard to look real good... I can't speak for everybody, but it's going to take more than a second bad game for me (where DA is more obviously the cause) before I start calling for any changes..
I agree with this 100% from a "fan standpoint". I think DA has "until the bye week". And maybe a little longer. But I'm still beating the same drum here.
In "prime time clutch games and on the national stage", DA has not shown the overall ability to step up. The fact is, when DA took over for Frye, he was da man! He had no competition which is a very comfortable position. But from what I've seen, when it's "clutch time" and he gets out of that comfort zone, he doesn't fare very well.
Don't get me wrong, with the right team around him, who knows? I mean Tent Dilfer has a SB ring, right? So you don't have to be "the complete QB" to attain that. Dilfer did it more from making "smart decisions" and minimizing his errors more than anything.
But I look at it more from a business standpoint and the way things "really work" in the "business world". Which is without a doubt the way the "business of football" is conducted. Which is basicly "scapegoat city".
Typical pattern in the NFL;
We had dismal seasons in the past. The fans and media get riled up expecting more. The FO miracalously finds a "magic bullet" to sell the fans so they believe the team is addresssing the problem and things will get better.
We have had an OC and a DC play "sacrificial lambs" in that department up to this point. Revamped the OL, the DL and made heavy investments at LB. We went out and signed an AFC North "proven RB".
So from a personnel and coaching standpoint, this FO has "addressed" issues. Along with that, comes "growing expectations". But the old "what if's" always come into play. And at this stage of the game, those "what if's" could quite possibly be HUGE!
Isn't this year four of the "five year plan"????
Isn't this a year of "great expectations"?
Are some of you actually suggesting that if things start "going south" this year, that there WON'T BE a "sacraficial lamb"??
Of course there will be IF such a scenario plays out. Will it be DA? Will it be RAC? Who knows? I sure as hell don't! But there WILL BE ONE! There always is..........................
I think what everyone needs to ask themselves is this..........
Will Phil Savage and RAC do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to try to pull a winning season out to save thier jobs? Or will they let the season go down the tubes and possibly their jobs and career here without trying every option available, all for the sake of "loyalty to DA"?
This isn't "exactly the phrase" I normaly use, but I will make editorial liberties to conform with the rules of the board..................."Crap runs downhill."
The "crap hill" pecking order is.........
Randy because he writes the checks!
Phil Savage because he assembles the talent.
RAC as HC.
Because it would be a VERY "hard sell" to go back to the "OC/DC well again" to play the blame game. Who do you feel would be left in line?
IMO, this is year four of the "five year plan" they sold us coming into Cleveland. So the heat is VERY MUCH on the line in regards to RAC and Savage. I do NOT believe they will let this season go down the tubes without pulling out all the stops.
I believe our O has the talent to win. And I think "some posters here" use quotes of players who are merely "holding the company line" in many of their statements and resting their laurels on such quotes. What are they supposed to say? "We don't believe in our QB."
So IF things are going down the crapper at the bye? I believe the change will be made. Somebody has to motivate this O "on the field". I've seen DA do it when he's in his comfort zone. I've also seen him fold in the national spotlight and in crunch time.
Is Brady Quinn that answer? Who knows?
( Honest answer, nobody )
But just like when DA came in for Frye, it's the "only REAL option" our FO has to "try" if this season starts to look like it's going down the crapper.
But the jury is still out on that one. And it appears that for the next few weeks, DA's fate lay in his own hands.
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All I know is, after last game, DA better improve his pass rush and fly to the ball better or the fans will be calling for Quinn.
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All I know is, after last game, DA better improve his pass rush and fly to the ball better or the fans will be calling for Quinn.
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He better win this week, though and not because he will be on the hot seat. He better win because it's Pittsburgh.
That can be said for everyone on this roster. Losing to Pittsburgh for the 10th time in a row will make EVERYONE look bad.
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A bit harsh but we stunk it up to Ashtabula. Game was so bad the Amish in Apple Creek asked what stunk so. Anderson needs to be better. Same locked on crap, some weak passes, some open receivers never got a look. But the worst had to be Braylon "DriveKiller" Edwards' Qubeez need catchers; BE tried to hot dog and loafed part of routes. Hate what I hear when I read interviews; maybe another Chadly in Berea. Forget the hype and other crap. Hard routes, catches, and do it all again. I detest a performance where we count on a go to guy and he drops the ball all day. Loads of fan fun. Not worth a PBowl vote for me. GO BE! Don't stink.  
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We're never going to see what we have in DA until we get: A Pro Bowl LT. A Pro Bowl WR A Pro Bowl TE A Pro Bowl RB and a great pass blocking line and a great second option at WR and a great backup TE and a great FB I mean how are ever even going to tell what we have at QB?!?!? 
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I've also seen him fold in the national spotlight and in crunch time.
I must have missed that game, which one was it ??
I agree with all of what you said with the exception of this part.
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DA isn't our problem at this point. While I agree he didn't have a great game, he didn't have a bad game against Dallas either. I maintain the thought that had BE caught the deep ball down the middle it would have energized the entire team, not to mention CBS. It was a game changing play that instead of inflating the team and the fans it had the opposite effect, it deflated the team and the fans.
When you play teams like Dallas and Pitt you have to make the utmost of every opportunity. We didn't we lost. I pretty much knew when BE dropped that ball we were in deep deep do do.
The thing to remember is that no QB plays solo. True enough they are a key ingredient, but not the soul ingredient. Everybody has to do their job, and as a team we didn't do our jobs so we lost.
Now the real question is can this team pull themselfs together and get this season turned in the right direction. I think they can, and we sure as hell are about to find out. But my concerns at this point go towards team not DA.
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I maintain the thought that had BE caught the deep ball down the middle it would have energized the entire team, not to mention CBS. It was a game changing play that instead of inflating the team and the fans it had the opposite effect, it deflated the team and the fans.
I have to disagree with this. The drive continued and ended with a TD pass to Winslow ... game tied at 7-7. No harm, no foul. Plus it was early in the game. Yes, it would have been electric and exciting, but at 7-7, there couldn't have been any hanging heads. Maybe some fantasy guys who have BE were hanging their heads ...
Trust me, I'm not defending BE. I think he absolutely sucked.
But it was the other drops that deflated the team as they couldn't sustain drives.
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Pdawg...thank you for thinking about the subject at hand and actually presenting the facts to show how you saw it and influence your opinion rather than basing it on Emotion.
I tried to do the same reflecting on what I came away with in the game.
I also agree that BQ played a lot better than what people think...most are not looking at the entire picture and wish to atone for their position of favorite by stating...see that part of the debate does not exist. But the total picture was that BQ did not have Jamal as a RB. He never had BE, Stallworth played very little. We kept KW2 to limited action as every preseason. We were not playing those game to win. But to get out of them in good health and get some reps for the backups.
What would BQ do in a regular season environment. With all giving it their all into specific game plans noting tendancies from the other team by watching film and bringing that to the game and able to execute those reads. This is BQ's strength. And he has mobility...some of our best plays were when DA had to run and make something out of nothing. Twice...really the rest his fortay is get rid of the ball. Which is fine and dandy for a rookie QB or one just getting their feet wet. But to win games...big games. Championship QBs have to make things happen.
This is what all are waiting to see from DA...not yet seen. This is where Possibly...we won't know till it happens, BQ is the franchise QB???
The deadbate is not buried. I just think that DA is the one most ready at this point. He's started 2 games against the Steelers and should have familiarity with the Defense, the rivalry. He might be the one most ready but that doesn't always translate in who is the better QB in the long run.
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General comments and some questions.
Is it true to say/write that many of you are really of the thinking that after one game that the starting QB position is a vable dicussion topic?
Is this thread for real? Are these discussions about DA serious?
Did BQ prove that he is/was ready this off season and in camp and pre-season.
There is no real question on who the Browns starting QB is with the people who matter and actually know. Just because several here who really don't seem to know, seem to be worried about it, doesn't mean its a concern.
I watched the game just like everyone else. I saw what actually happened. I have read these posts and opinions here. Considering all, it doesn't seem that there is much doubt about DA being the starting QB for the foreseeable future. Barring a serious injury.
I would hope that we all had better things to do that this.
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After this putrid game, DA has to be on the hot seat. He played absolutely horrible.
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After this putrid game, DA has to be on the hot seat. He played absolutely horrible.
One more game. If we still have a terrible offense after one more game, he's outta here.
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If he lays another stinker, and yes I know Roth didn't have a great game either but HE WON - you're allowed to play crappy when you win, we'll have to really consider a change. If we're 0-3 after next week, who could possibly be positive about this team? We're a few more losses away from a total disaster of a season. And we've seen how this team responds to adversity, they pack it in and quit.
I'm so pissed. Pittsburgh OWNS every stinking thing about us. And no other Browns fan can argue with that statement. They completely OWN us.
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After this putrid game, DA has to be on the hot seat. He played absolutely horrible.
One more game. If we still have a terrible offense after one more game, he's outta here.
An NLF QB should be able to hit the broadside of a barn at all times ... even on a bad day ... this guy could not.
I have stood up for DA on many occassions. I have gone back and rewatched film. I have claimed he was not as bad as many thought he was. I have stuck my neck out for him.
Well, I think I was wrong. The inaccuracy was horrible tonight and not something that you can sustain long term success with. That guy had all day to throw ... may times he just needed to step up in the pocket ... yet the inaccuracy was amazing ... absolutely amazing for an NFL QB ...
The FO needs to seriously consider where they go from here ... it would not be a terrible idea to let Quinn get some reps ....
But we won't do that ... we are a loser of a franschise ... we don't operate that way ...
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After this putrid game, DA has to be on the hot seat. He played absolutely horrible.
I really think your comment is a knee jerk response. DA threw the ball well, Braylon Edwards stunk up the place.
but,
I don't think DA is a commanding QB, he seems to take orders from the sidelines. Why didn't he call any timeouts? Has he ever ran a no huddle offense? I don't think DA can take control of the offense, I don't think he has good football smarts.
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DA threw the ball well, Braylon Edwards stunk up the place.
No offense, but what game were you watching?
It was amazing to see the difference between a bonafide starting caliber NFL QB in toothlessberger and the wannabe in DA ... amazing ... beyond amazing ... if you didn't see it ... your eyes are deceiving you ...
let the Quinn era begin ...
Yes, I'm calling a short leash on DA ... he's had all offseason to work on his deficiencies ... he just can't do it ... he tried ... but it's just not there ... no shame in trying ... but as a franchise we must move on ... it was worth a shot ...
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I agree. 205 yards of total offense against Dal and 208 against Pit there needs to be a change. DA isn't executing the offense. The playcalling has been bad, but the execution is even worse. And execution falls squarely on the shoulders of the QB
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DA threw the ball well, Braylon Edwards stunk up the place.
No offense, but what game were you watching?
It was amazing to see the difference between a bonafide starting caliber NFL QB in toothlessberger and the wannabe in DA ... amazing ... beyond amazing ... if you didn't see it ... your eyes are deceiving you ...
let the Quinn era begin ...
Yes, I'm calling a short leash on DA ... he's had all offseason to work on his deficiencies ... he just can't do it ... he tried ... but it's just not there ... no shame in trying ... but as a franchise we must move on ... it was worth a shot ...
I'm not here to defend Braylon's night, BUT, its not easy ot catch balls thrown waste high and lower. DA consistently puts balls behind, low, and too high. He also nearly got braylon killed by ryan clarke. BE hasnt played well, but if BEn was throwing him the ball youd see a dif BE.
Watching Ben, he puts most balls number high so the WR's can hand catch the football. Your right, watching Ben play and then DA.... Not even close.
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that doesn't even get into how Ben can throw on the run from seemingly every angle and DA can't hit the broad side of a barn on the run unless his mechanics are perfect.
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I'm not here to defend Braylon's night, BUT, its not easy ot catch balls thrown waste high and lower. DA consistently puts balls behind, low, and too high. He also nearly got braylon killed by ryan clarke. BE hasnt played well, but if BEn was throwing him the ball youd see a dif BE.
How many balls did DA throw below BE waist last night? He threw one ball that was just behind him when he came out of the break. He has to catch those balls. I want to point out that it was blowing pretty hard, which does effect the throw.
Yes he threw one ball too low for Winslow, but it had to be near the ground. If he doesn't throw it low, Winslow gets killed. It did skip to him, so that was a bad pass, but the point is it needed to be low.
People are always complaining (rightfully so) on how DA had no touch on the short balls or slants. He threw all those little short outs and dump off passes very well. He also threw a beautiful slant to Edwards. After the 1st quarter (where the wind was blowing extremely hard) he went 16-23. Two were picks, and two were desperation throws at the end of the game.
The red zone offense is a concern. Terrible clock management and not reading the zone cost us once. Running the ball on 1st and 2nd down when we were not able to run at all didn't help on the last drive.
It is easy to blame some play calling after the fact. The pick was a bad play, but was DA's only bad decision the whole game.
People kept bringing up that Pittsburgh proved the way to stop the Browns was to make DA throw short. They said DA can't throw short. He did last night, but now all we here is complaing about how inaccurate he was...On longer thrown balls. 
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They said DA can't throw short. He did last night, but now all we here is complaing about how inaccurate he was...On longer thrown balls.
Hhhhhmmmmm...sounds like...INCONSITENCY!! What every fan wants DA to fix...but ya know what? DA has been doing that since college, its why he was taken on the second day of the draft instead of one.
This is DA people, sometimes really good, sometimes really bad. He makes some great for awhile and then makes other throws great awhile later. He's never shown he'll be consistent, he'll always just play good enough to tease us by torching the NFL bottom feeders and getting smoked by the good teams.
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Did you actually watch the ball when both QBs were throwing it downfield early in the game. The ball Ben threw to Ward (the one he dropped) went sideways... Even with the bad weather DA did go 18-32. Two of those passes were dropped, and two were desperation throws with less then 20 seconds to play. Blaming DA for last night is laughable. We had 47 yards rushing on 22 carries. Think maybe that was part of the problem?
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Blaming DA for last night is laughable.
Pretending DA's two interceptions didn't lead to the loss is laughable.
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A lack of a running game contributed to both of this seasons losses. its not DA, its our one dimensional offense.
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at least your consistent ..... so AFTER 2 HOLE GAMES U want the HC fired and QB benched ... like I said in the other thread ... your like a 20 year old ..
I WANT WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT IT ... forget reality just give me what i WANT NOW ...
if we lose next week ... who U gonna wanna DUMP THEN .... *LOL* ....
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