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Maybe...maybe they had alittle more confidence since thier coach had taken their team and the Jags to the playoffs in prior years. Ours took Willie and Carthon out to the Golden Corral to celebrate being competitve against the Steelers.
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I wonder what the NY Giants boards looked like last year after week 2, and they lost 2 games....
"There are 3 basic elements of coaching...." Yada Yada yada yada..... 
I realize you tend to look at things with Brown and Orange colored glasses and I respect that. Even when I was trashing Frye you were defending him, that's respectable.
Now, I haven't gone and completely trashed RAC yet, but come on, you have to see some disturbing trends.
It's not a talent issue at this point. We seemed pretty evenly matched against Pittsburgh this past week. The difference in the game was how we shot ourselves in the foot with poor clock management and miscommunication on the sidelines.
Yes, the miscommunication is between the OC and QB, but isn't the head coach responsible for making sure everything is running efficiently during the week in practice? Afterall, the buck stops at his desk. It's called effective leadership, I learn about it all the time in many of my classes.
Believe it or not, Romeo's stoic look and lack of emotion is actually good in some ways because it keeps an even, consistent approach. I will never attack his lack of emotion on the sidelines.
But I'm highly critical of poor use of timeouts, poor clock management, and challenges that make me throw my hat on the ground because I know it's a "stoopid" challenge.
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I mean.. I admit.. When it comes to clock management.. He is not the best.. But I'm not going to throw him to the curb though. I'm not going to do that.
This Browns organization.. It's a team. Good or bad.... It's still a team.
If there is on thing that RAC has taught his team, it's that the players have to work together. No man is bigger than the other. Big names, or small names... You are no bigger than the team.
I know over the off season, there was an article about RAC and A. Davis, and how RAC was given this father type image. A lot of you say he is liked by the players, but they won't fight for him. I don't know about yall, but I would fight for my Dad. I would want to make him proud.
He doesn't deserve ALL of this ridicule.
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When you have troops on the ground, you have a general.
When you have players on the field, you have a HC.
In both cases, the buck stops there.
To indicate otherwise are merely excuses and rationalisations IMO
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Just look at my sig pic....
They want him to win.... They want him to get another ring with Cleveland Browns on it....
It's like the Browns are the jealous step son... The Patriots got him a ring, and now the Browns are wanting to give him one too...
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The Giants season "last year" or their fan boards are irrelevant.
I am simple stating my opinion on the topic. Agree or disagree.
I am not calling for Romeo's head. I am only saying how I believe he has measured up to what I believe are the criteron of coaching.
As well as the decisions facing this team at seasons end.
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I agree- up to a point.
To be more to the point... the buck stops everywhere. With every player, as well.
DA has to play more error-free.
Braylon has to catch more passes.
The OL has to open running lanes against stronger D's
Special Teams have to stop opposing KR's before they reach their own 35.
RAC has to manage the game better.
OC and DC must make better use of their resources (depleted tho they may be) and make better in-game adjustments.
As you well know, this is an exceedingly simple game in its basic form... which lends itself to unbelievable complexity in its execution. To simply say that "the buck stops with the HC" is a bit simplistic and myopic... and resonates only with those who think that solutions can be reached by changing out personnel and staff like so many car parts. The proverbial "buck" may be the bottom line, but it should only be reached after ALL the math is done. We still have an unfinished equation at work this year.
Here's what I think about our season's start... in the most general of terms:
This team thought it was ready. The coaching staff thought they were ready. All of them in fact might actually have been ready.... until the injuries started to pile up. We'll never know if a full-strength Browns squad could have fared better in these first 2 outings, but this much is clear- the level of competition is much higher this year, and this young team has just now seen exactly how much better it is. They've had these first 2 games to see just how much smaller the margin of error is, now that they're playing with the bigger boys. Like a prize fighter who's behind on points after the first 2 rounds, this team needs to adjust, and fight a new fight for the next 13 rounds.
Maybe a bloody nose early is potentially a good thing for them, if you're thinking long-term.
We're not as bad as we've looked...and we're not a good as talking heads said we were. As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Now that they've seen "the truth," their performance in the next three games will be much more telling than anything these first 2 games could have told us.
But this is a RAC thread.... so I'll weigh in with my vote: stay. Stay the entire year. Stay the follwing year, with a stable staff and a solidified core of Phil's players.
Like I said in a previous post- Phil wanted the fans to give the team 5 years. We are at the beginning of Year Four. None of the players or coaches are a finished product yet.
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With season at the brink, Crennel must stand tall
by Terry Pluto
Monday September 15, 2008, 6:42 PM
The next two weeks are the most important of Romeo Crennel's coaching career.
If the Browns are to have any chance of making the playoffs, they have to win this week in Baltimore and the following week at Cincinnati. Yes, they are must games, a phrase some of the Browns coaches probably hated when Phil Savage attached it to what became Sunday's 10-6 loss to Pittsburgh.
The general manager didn't mean the season was over in Week 2 if they failed to beat Pittsburgh -- but until the Browns beat the Steelers at least once in a season, they probably will never make the playoffs. That's not putting extra pressure on the team, it's just stating the obvious.
The losing streak against Pittsburgh is now 10, Crennel is 0-7. And the Browns are 0-2.
Nothing good about any of that.
For the season finale in Pittsburgh on Dec. 28 to mean anything, they need to win the next two games. That's two conference games on the road which would make them 2-2 at the bye week -- and more importantly, 2-1 in the division.
Joshua Gunter/The Plain Dealer
With frustrations high following an 0-2 start, Browns coach Romeo Crennel enters the most vital stretch of games since he joined the franchise, says Terry Pluto.If not ... let's not even think about it.
Crennel has to rally his team. He needs to call them together and say (again if necessary) that there has been too much talk in Berea about injuries. He needs to remind some players who want new contracts that the team has had only one "decent" (his favorite word) season, and they have yet to make the playoffs. He has to stress the coaches will push the players to fill the holes of the missing starters -- and good teams don't fold when some players are hurt.
Yes, losing Donte Stallworth to a pulled quad muscle before the Dallas game was a setback. But Stallworth had nothing to do with the Browns' passive game plan on defense -- or Crennel's seemingly timid decision to go for a field goal rather than the end zone early in the fourth quarter when they were behind, 28-7.
No matter the strategy, the Browns probably would have lost that Dallas game. But they seemed to be playing not to be embarrassed, rather than taking some chances to at least put the pressure on the Cowboys.
Yes, excuses are there.
Injuries have taken away Sean Jones (knee), Antwan Peek (knee) and now Robaire Smith (Achilles) on defense. The secondary is thin and young. No doubt some of the coaches would love another veteran defensive player.
Yet that defense held Pittsburgh to 10 points. That defense was allowed to blitz and play with passion after the comatose game plan vs. Dallas. That defense did respond to coordinator Mel Tucker and Crennel and played well enough to win.
The biggest problem as they head to Baltimore is the offense, which has produced one touchdown in eight quarters. Perhaps Derek Anderson is still rusty from his concussion and missing three weeks of training camp. But the bottom line is the quarterback has made some poor decisions. His longest completion is for 23 yards. This from a guy whose main weapon is throwing deep and stretching the defense.
Anderson's third-down security blanket Joe Jurevicius (knee) is out for at least six weeks. Stallworth got hurt. Joshua Cribbs has been hurt until Sunday. Yet that has nothing to do with Braylon Edwards playing with almost no confidence, mediocre run-blocking or failing to give Jerome Harrison a chance to make some plays.
Crennel has to understand that he may be sending an unintentional message that he doesn't trust his offense when he refuses to go for a touchdown and kicks a field goal -- as he did with 3:21 left and the Browns behind, 10-3, to Pittsburgh Sunday.
Last season, not much was expected from the Browns. They had few major injuries, gained momentum in Week 2 and ambushed several teams. Now, it's a different and harder season. Not just for the players, but the coaches.
If they aren't careful, it can be over before the leaves turn colors in October.
With season at the brink, Crennel must stand tall
by Terry Pluto
Monday September 15, 2008, 6:42 PM
The next two weeks are the most important of Romeo Crennel's coaching career.
If the Browns are to have any chance of making the playoffs, they have to win this week in Baltimore and the following week at Cincinnati. Yes, they are must games, a phrase some of the Browns coaches probably hated when Phil Savage attached it to what became Sunday's 10-6 loss to Pittsburgh.
The general manager didn't mean the season was over in Week 2 if they failed to beat Pittsburgh -- but until the Browns beat the Steelers at least once in a season, they probably will never make the playoffs. That's not putting extra pressure on the team, it's just stating the obvious.
The losing streak against Pittsburgh is now 10, Crennel is 0-7. And the Browns are 0-2.
Nothing good about any of that.
For the season finale in Pittsburgh on Dec. 28 to mean anything, they need to win the next two games. That's two conference games on the road which would make them 2-2 at the bye week -- and more importantly, 2-1 in the division.
Joshua Gunter/The Plain Dealer
With frustrations high following an 0-2 start, Browns coach Romeo Crennel enters the most vital stretch of games since he joined the franchise, says Terry Pluto.If not ... let's not even think about it.
Crennel has to rally his team. He needs to call them together and say (again if necessary) that there has been too much talk in Berea about injuries. He needs to remind some players who want new contracts that the team has had only one "decent" (his favorite word) season, and they have yet to make the playoffs. He has to stress the coaches will push the players to fill the holes of the missing starters -- and good teams don't fold when some players are hurt.
Yes, losing Donte Stallworth to a pulled quad muscle before the Dallas game was a setback. But Stallworth had nothing to do with the Browns' passive game plan on defense -- or Crennel's seemingly timid decision to go for a field goal rather than the end zone early in the fourth quarter when they were behind, 28-7.
No matter the strategy, the Browns probably would have lost that Dallas game. But they seemed to be playing not to be embarrassed, rather than taking some chances to at least put the pressure on the Cowboys.
Yes, excuses are there.
Injuries have taken away Sean Jones (knee), Antwan Peek (knee) and now Robaire Smith (Achilles) on defense. The secondary is thin and young. No doubt some of the coaches would love another veteran defensive player.
Yet that defense held Pittsburgh to 10 points. That defense was allowed to blitz and play with passion after the comatose game plan vs. Dallas. That defense did respond to coordinator Mel Tucker and Crennel and played well enough to win.
The biggest problem as they head to Baltimore is the offense, which has produced one touchdown in eight quarters. Perhaps Derek Anderson is still rusty from his concussion and missing three weeks of training camp. But the bottom line is the quarterback has made some poor decisions. His longest completion is for 23 yards. This from a guy whose main weapon is throwing deep and stretching the defense.
Anderson's third-down security blanket Joe Jurevicius (knee) is out for at least six weeks. Stallworth got hurt. Joshua Cribbs has been hurt until Sunday. Yet that has nothing to do with Braylon Edwards playing with almost no confidence, mediocre run-blocking or failing to give Jerome Harrison a chance to make some plays.
Crennel has to understand that he may be sending an unintentional message that he doesn't trust his offense when he refuses to go for a touchdown and kicks a field goal -- as he did with 3:21 left and the Browns behind, 10-3, to Pittsburgh Sunday.
Last season, not much was expected from the Browns. They had few major injuries, gained momentum in Week 2 and ambushed several teams. Now, it's a different and harder season. Not just for the players, but the coaches.
If they aren't careful, it can be over before the leaves turn colors in October.
*click on some of the links and check out the comments... pretty harsh stuff
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Good read Good read, though familiar. 
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If anybody can point out an occasion when Cowher was caught stumbling and bumbling his way through a 2 minute drill please let me know.
Against us in 2000 when he couldn't get the field goal unit onto the field in time.
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If anybody can point out an occasion when Cowher was caught stumbling and bumbling his way through a 2 minute drill please let me know.
Against us in 2000 when he couldn't get the field goal unit onto the field in time.
In 17 years I think he would be allowed to stumble once. I'll take his record in that timespan over anything anybody else has done recently,....like the last ten games.
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He asked for an occasion and I gave it. No more, no less.
That said, I don't want that spit slobberin' fool as our coach either.
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I understand and respect your opinion on that,....spit is not good, other than to make sure the bolt on your M-16 makes it home,....but Cowher tomorrow with no football knowledge, would be better than RAC is with a full 3 years of experience behind him.
I AM NOT calling for Cowher to replace the RAC. I am only demanding that RAC perform at his pay grade. If he were a Marine rifle squad leader, he would have been fragged long ago,....
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but Cowher tomorrow with no football knowledge, would be better than RAC is with a full 3 years of experience behind him.......If he were a Marine rifle squad leader, he would have been fragged long ago,....
No argument here. RAC has not improved one iota in his ability to manage a game. I supported him until this last Pittsburgh game. For the first time ever, the steelers have the all time head to head lead. That was the last straw. He's not going to get better.
Unlike others here, I don't think we're throwing the season away if he's fired. I think we're throwing the season away if we keep him on. He's a proven failure in gameday coaching.
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I'm not that wild about RAC and I don't think he's that great of a game day coach. I will say in fairness, it's complicated trying to make a valid assessment when the ambulance has been backing up to the complex in Berea on a daily basis.
Injuries or not, this guy just does not "get it."
Like I said this past week. Their will be a trickle affect if we don't beat Pitt. I hate to say it, but mentally, we are WEAK and seem to be getting WEAKER. That starts with the HC. Quite honestly, he is a great guy, but this is professional football.
In terms of injuries, whatever happened to doing more with less? Wasn't that what he was known for in New England?
In his fourth year, he has:
a) not beat pittsburgh yet
b) not established a team identity
c) been atrocious with clock management
d) consistently had a team that is undisciplined (penalties)
e) been terrible on challenges
f) waffled over and over again (you have to be blind to not see it)
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Bringing in someone new probably won't be the answer though...
How many times has a "good" coach gone to another team and then be mediocre?
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Turk,
I honestly hate talking about this. I am not even close to being over the game which was now 48 hrs ago. I can't even begin to describe the anger that I had when walking down the upper deck ramps after the game. Seeing the stupid Pittsburgh fans chanting and laughing. Its like a joke to them at this point. The Pittsburgh locker room LAUGHS at us..
This guy has had his chance. I will say it again, this is PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. He has not taken advantage of the chances, and not gotten over the hump. You don't get a zillion chances, especially with a guy like Savage in charge. Make no mistake about it, Savage has lost patience. Romeo's fat butt has spent a lot of time in the kitchen, this time it's hot though, and he ain't even cooking. The good ones "find a way" and "get it done." You know damn well Turk, this is a results oriented job. Like it or not, someone has to take the blame, and EVERYTHING is pointing to RAC.
There is something missing from this team, and RAC is the reason..
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I honestly hate talking about this. I am not even close to being over the game which was now 48 hrs ago. I can't even begin to describe the anger that I had when walking down the upper deck ramps after the game. Seeing the stupid Pittsburgh fans chanting and laughing. Its like a joke to them at this point. The Pittsburgh locker room LAUGHS at us..
This guy has had his chance. I will say it again, this is PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. He has not taken advantage of the chances, and not gotten over the hump. You don't get a zillion chances, especially with a guy like Savage in charge. Make no mistake about it, Savage has lost patience. Romeo's fat butt has spent a lot of time in the kitchen, this time it's hot though, and he ain't even cooking. The good ones "find a way" and "get it done." You know damn well Turk, this is a results oriented job. Like it or not, someone has to take the blame, and EVERYTHING is pointing to RAC.
There is something missing from this team, and RAC is the reason..
Quarterback play might have something to do with it too...
As much as I've been anti-Romeo in this thread, I honestly believe if Roethlisberger had never been drafted by the Steelers, we win in '06 (the first game) and '07 (the second game), and possibly even Sunday. Sometimes I worry that we're doomed unless Roethlisberger is injured, or his skills dimish due to age or some sort of injury.
But that's a lame-ass excuse and I know it.
Tressel made it public priority to beat Michigan (and I know they spend time preparing for Michigan every week), Savage has made it public priority to beat Pittsburgh. But Romeo?
"It's a division game and it's important to win our division games."
Um, Romeo, it's PITTSBURGH. Not just another division game, THE division game. It's our Michigan! I get the feeling (I don't know facts, this is strictly opinion) we put the effort of "another division game" into it, like the Buckeyes playing another Big Ten game.
To me, that's unacceptable. These guys should be brainwashed to want to mug them if they ever saw another Steeler in the street (I said want, not actually do it). I don't want to see Cribbs and Anderson messing around with Harrison and Roethlisberger at the Pro Bowl...I want them to be standoffish and hateful.
That might be the college student in me talking (and I'll admit I'm kind of a hypocrite because I'm friends with a couple Steelers fans, but then again, I don't play for the Browns...I could never be friends with a football player from my rival high school back when I played, wasn't til college where I became friends with one and even then when it comes to the old rivalry we still get standoffish), but that's how I feel. I feel like this team and the head coach doesn't "get" the rivalry. I know the GM does because that's all he talks about, I know the OC does because he grew up a Browns fan, I know the DC does because he did as well.
Maybe it takes a head coach who has played for the Browns, coached for the Browns and coached AGAINST the Browns to understand the rivalry, but that's just me.
I realize I threw out a lot of emotion and less logic in this post but once I got going the anger started stewing again. I'm still beside myself over this loss.
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In his fourth year, he has:
a) not beat pittsburgh yet
b) not established a team identity
c) been atrocious with clock management
d) consistently had a team that is undisciplined (penalties)
e) been terrible on challenges
f) waffled over and over again (you have to be blind to not see it)
g) churned through offensive and defensive coordinators
f) failed to make tough calls on starters
g) failed to recognize staffing shortfalls
h) never beaten pittsburgh
i) never beaten pittsburgh
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Bringing in someone new probably won't be the answer though...
How many times has a "good" coach gone to another team and then be mediocre?
Coughlin did pretty well. SuperBowl
Dungy too. SB
Gruden SB
Parcells Playoffs always
Norv T
Holmgren SB?
Shanahan SB
But the real key is to NOT NOT NOT rip apart the FO / GM each time. Hopefully Phil takes control of the RAC problem before Phil's job is on the line as well. Tomlin and the Steelers are models of how to make a HC change smoothly.
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Hopefully Phil takes control of the RAC problem before Phil's job is on the line as well.
Bingo...we won't lose a step if its just RAC gone, fans get carried away with "systems" and "learning new stuff". In one off-season we can easily learn the coaches new stuff...its just important to keep the FO intanct, so you don't lose direction.
The hardest part is finding a coach that is good and agrees with your direction...fortunatley we have alot of young talent and would be a very attractive team for a few coaches...whereas before we had to get something second rate, or a cordinator.
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B/c of Tomlin they lost Faneca.... And also Tomlin inherited a team that was already at the top of its division. BIG CHALLENGE!!! HUGE DIFFICULTY!!! He has worked so hard.... 
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I personally think it is way to early in the season to fire RAC and that it could potentially derail the entire year which could still have some promise.
However, I also feel like if the team doesn't show drastic improvement that this will be the last year for RAC for many of the reasons that have been stated in this thread.
And, it is always good to have a possible plan in place for when things happen. Here are some possibilities for coaches if/when RAC leaves:
Mike Holmgren
But seriously, Holmgren or Cowher would demand coach/GM responsibilities and I still think Savage is doing a good job. Also, we will never pay Garrett more money or put him in a better situation than Jerry Jones will offer...so take him off the table.
Note that we have the players to potentially make a switch to a 4-3 if necessary (since our LB suck anyway and most of our DL have been in 4-3 before).
Here are my top picks
Offense: Tom Moore (Indy), Rick Dennison (Broncos), Mike Munchak (Titans), Rick Dennison (Broncos), Andy Heck (Jaguars)
Defensive Specialist: Rex Ryan, Jim Johnson, Gregg Williams (redskins), Steve Spagnuolo (giants)
My top picks would by Ryan and Williams, but really any of the defensive guys would be fine by me and they might even keep Chud around if our offense picks up. But, whoever is coaching our OL needs to go (steve marshall) as they have not looked good at all so far and they definitely have the talent.
If we go offensive guy, then I would go with Mike Munchak. I like Dennison a lot and he's given credit for coaching up Cutler, but the problem is that we would need an entirely different style of OL to work with his scheme. We already have the guys in place for Munchak.
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Steve Spagnuolo and Jim Johnson would be the only 2 cordinators Id really want..if we have to fire RAC...get a coach with a prior NFL HC resume....cordiantors are a last resort.
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Ok, that is fine and dandy to say...can you give a list of guys who you think would do the job well?
Anyone outside of the 3 most obvious of Schott, Cowher, and Holmgren?
I mean Brian Billick is a superbowl winning HC...but I don't think you'd find much support for him here.
And I don't think Pitt is complaining about Tomlin not having HC experience. I want the best guy for the job whether or not he has held the position before.
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Tom Moore is an awful candidate. Peyton Manning is the real OC of that team. Remember those offensive juggernauts in Pittsburgh that he coordinated in the '80's? LOL.
Jim Johnson is a career defensive coordinator guy.
I love what Steve Spagnolo has done with the Giants defense...it's everything I want in a defense.
I wouldn't sleep on Lane Kiffin either...the debacle in Oakland is NOT his fault.
But I really want a guy with a SB ring who has already had his sabbatical (which Holmgren is about to take and is why he would NOT fit here)...you all know who he is.
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Cross that bridge when we come to it, it would be stupid to fire RAC in the middle of the season. Then what? Promote Chud and then demote him after the season? Mel Tucker? If and when we would have to fire RAC, then we will see who is available, and i'm sure there might be a thread or 2 million on the subject.
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I personally think it is way to early in the season to fire RAC
I am not in favor of doing it during the season...that never works.
Can his butt after the season.
If Marty can get fired from San Diego with the record he had, we sure as heck can get rid of this dunce the day after the season ends.
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You know, the anti_RAC, just fire him crowd is like arguing with a woman. The argument starts with one topic, defies all logic and later its usually about something else.
The offense scores 6 points = fire Rac, even though Chud calls the plays!
Chud/DA blow the time management and Time out situation at the end of the first half = Fire RAC
The defense holds Pit to 6 points but in the crunch, does not stop pit util time is under a minute = Fire RAC
When to take a timeout debate under 2 min = Fire Rac
Injuries to key players = Fire Rac
Lack of quality backups = Fire Rac
Offense has no identity and Chud calls running play on damn near every 1st and 10 in the same formation = Fire Rac
The polar ice caps are melting = Fire Rac
The US banking system is tanking = Fire Rac
Yup, it must be silly season as a Browns Fan!!
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You know, the anti_RAC, just fire him crowd is like arguing with a woman. The argument starts with one topic, defies all logic and later its usually about something else.
The offense scores 6 points = fire Rac, even though Chud calls the plays!
Chud/DA blow the time management and Time out situation at the end of the first half = Fire RAC
The defense holds Pit to 6 points but in the crunch, does not stop pit util time is under a minute = Fire RAC
When to take a timeout debate under 2 min = Fire Rac
Injuries to key players = Fire Rac
Lack of quality backups = Fire Rac
Offense has no identity and Chud calls running play on damn near every 1st and 10 in the same formation = Fire Rac
The polar ice caps are melting = Fire Rac
The US banking system is tanking = Fire Rac
Yup, it must be silly season as a Browns Fan!!
The same can be said for those who are blindly optimistic.
Even last year during a 10-6 season there were in-game decisions that made me scratch my head, but I was ok with it because this team never got too high and never got too low emotionally.
We make horrible in-game adjustments, questionable decisions in crucial situations, can't beat Pittsburgh, and some of the challenges Romeo makes absolutely make my head want to explode.
I'm NOT saying "Fire Romeo" right now, but I see the writing on the wall and I feel that it's going to be inevitable.
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I personally think it is way to early in the season to fire RAC and that it could potentially derail the entire year
I think NOT firing him will derail the year.
Maybe Chud or whoever will prove themself, maybe not. We''re all sick of rebuilding, but it's inevitable. Why delay? We want the team to get better, and if the coach is as good as he'll ever be,,,,,so goes the team. Why waste a season finding out what we already know?
BTW, I've been patient and supported RAC up until this week. How much more of him are you willing to take?
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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You know, the anti_RAC, just fire him crowd is like arguing with a woman even if you're right..you're wrong..you never win.. I love women Mine will probably kill me for saying that
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The same can be said for those who are blindly optimistic.
Don't you mean the non-emotional, cool headed, highly intelligent football minded....
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I think the worst is when they are winning it's everyone else's fault but RAC. When they lose it's only him that screws everything up.  The only exception to the rule is when it's the starting QB's fault because everyone knows the guy on the bench is by far the better option. No matter who he might be.  I wish it was as easy as just fire the coach and the winning would start. If it was I'd be all for it but how has that worked in the past?
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I think the worst is when they are winning it's everyone else's fault but RAC. When they lose it's only him that screws everything up.
RAC got his share of criticism even when they were winning. It's not as wishy washy as you say. I supported him, though. I thought the winning would help him with game management. I was wrong.
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I wish it was as easy as just fire the coach and the winning would start. If it was I'd be all for it but how has that worked in the past?
My concern is that winning won't start if he remains the coach. How long do we wait? We got a decent season with an easy schedule from Romeo. I think that's as well as we can do with him as coach.
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