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Just some general discussion/bcs predictions.
As much as I hate the SEC, and as much as I love my Buckeyes, I gotta admit:
Florida is easily the best coached team in the game. I'm convinced that Urban Meyer's comprehension of the game of football is rival to Bill Walsh's. Florida moves the ball upfield with ease. I have seen several of their scoring plays where there isn't a defender within 5 yards of whoever scores.- Including plays within the 5 yard line. Florida's players are rarely out of position, and they all do the fundamental things correctly. They don't commit many turnovers, and they never drop passes, or fumble. Plus they have a soon to be two time Heisman winner at quarterback. Their defense is easily the fastest in college football, yet, they have the beef up front to stop teams from scoring within the 3 yard line. - Tenessee had the ball on Florida's 2 yard line twice yesterday and came away with zero points. They have everything. If they go undefeated this year, to me, they will be the greatest team in the history of college football. - I hate them, but they are that impressive. All I spoke of was their offense/defense. -Check out their special teams. - Easily, easily, the best coached team in the nation.
Penn State should be the top ranked team in the Big 10. Their offense is a machine. To this point, they are the team to beat in the Big 10.
USC is ranked first, Oklahoma is ranked second. There is already talk as to what should happen if USC, Oklahoma, and an SEC team finish undefeated.
Considering that Oklahoma got trounced by West Virginia in the bcs last year, coupled with the fact that the last two champs have come from the SEC, I'm sorry, but I put the SEC team in their to face USC. - If at the end of bowl season you have two undefeated teams, then you've gotta consider a split title.
As for my Buckeyes, let's win the Big 10. Let's hope that we get another crack at USC in the Rose Bowl.
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As of RIGHT NOW, Florida looks fantastic. USC vs. Florida would be the game we all would want to see right now. Georgia looks good, but I am not sure they will be able to move the ball on Florida...
Cocktail party is gonna be crazy this year...
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That's an excellent match up something the BCS needs after the last few lackluster championship games we have had to witness.
What about Oklahoma VS Georgia is that feasible?
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After watching Auburn lose to LSU, there is a no doubt in my mind that if anybody from the SEC does go undefeated, Florida would be the good bet. Now I haven't seen Alabama play, and I'm not sure about Georgia yet. But you're right, Florida is for real. So, one of Oklahoma's keys (in the case of the aformentioned 3-way) will be for Georgia to win The Big Cocktail Party here in a few weeks. It's almost a blessing that Ohio State lost to USC, or they would be in the same boat. There's still a lot of football to be played.
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Well, yeah Fletch, of course its feasible, we are still in September....  I just don't see anybody beating Fl the way they are playing. Their LB play is fantastic. In terms of GA, I think FL's lateral defensive speed will give Morenos some fits. The key is if they can stop Masequoi (sp) and Green. If their D plays well, FL will win since their playcalling keeps the other teams D on its heels..
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No kidding, the title of this thread points this out.
Maybe I need to spell it out better, do these teams have BCS conference obligations to meet if they do not play in the national championship? I don't know the in's and out's of these conferences but am sure they have a set bowl game like the big ten does. Sorry for the confusing question but figure one of the college football guru's would understand it and be able to answer it.
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Oklahoma really needed Ohio State to beat USC. It is SUPPOSED by many, that if the Sooners and the Buckeyes were 2 of the 3 "tied" undefeateds, the Buckeyes might be the team left out,...so, since Florida and USC "seem" to be H&S above everyone else right "now," they would be the 1/2 favorites.
As for the Bowl tie-ins, none of that has changed, so unless it is the Title game, a Sooner-Bulldog matchup is unlikely,...not impossible, but unlikely.
Georgia needs to beat Florida and USC has to lose (that "best" chance was gone last weekend) in order for them to meet in the NC game (along with a host of other variables).
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Thanks I follow you.
I always get confused how they determine these games, but was thinking that Georgia and Oklahoma were an unlikely match up if they didn't meet in the big one.
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If your gonna get condescending why don't you just stay away dude.
Playoffmaker, Fletch does this on every thread he touches. He makes snide remarks in hopes of pulling the attention of the thread towards himself and his snide comments. My advice to you is to ignore him.- Exactly what I'm gonna do after this reply.
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What is the "Cocktail party."
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Suppose the BCS championship features USC/SEC team. Third ranked Oklahoma then faces the 4th ranked team. Say that Oklahoma wins, and finishes the season undefeated, should they be considered partial champs?
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What?
Why some of you read into every damn thing I post is just plain silly.
I typed that to "spell it out better" since the guy seemed not too understand my question or did you not notice that and just directly jump on me for no damn reason other then the fact you think your a mind reader?
Some of you people need to get over it. Damn.
If I wanted to be condescending I would have and done a better job then the one your accusing me of already.
Condescending. Pfft.
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I've gotta admit, I like college football more than pro.
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Suppose the BCS championship features USC/SEC team. Third ranked Oklahoma then faces the 4th ranked team. Say that Oklahoma wins, and finishes the season undefeated, should they be considered partial champs?
First off, would be IF Oklahoma would face # 4,...since in the scenario you presented MIGHT be # 4 "Penn State" for example, the Lions would HAVE to go to the Rose Bowl and Oklahoma would have to go to the Fiesta. But for argument's sake -- in your suggestion, the Sooners do play # 4 -- would they get a share of the title,...? I am inclined to believe not, as the AP is probably more favorably predisposed to USC and Florida than to Oklahoma, as Jim Tressel is to being a Buckeye.
Would also depend on whether # 4 might not also be undefeated ? (That COULD happen, most especially in the Big Ten because there is no conference title game,...)
It is also entirely possible, at this point, for 2 SEC teams to meet, but there would have to have been 2 losses each for USC and Oklahoma along the way.
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Maybe I need to spell it out better
If your gonna get condescending why don't you just stay away dude.
Playoffmaker, Fletch does this on every thread he touches. He makes snide remarks in hopes of pulling the attention of the thread towards himself and his snide comments. My advice to you is to ignore him.- Exactly what I'm gonna do after this reply.
lol i've told you guys so many times to put him on the IGNORE list..he never has anything legit/logical to say...if he didn't call himself a browns fan on this board he would be what we call a TROLL on this board...and what do we do with trolls? IGNORE THEM
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That's a lie or your lying one of the two since you have no clue what I say when I post since you supposedly have me on ignore.
Why did you guys ruin a perfectly good thread? Seriously?
Now let it go and stop jumping the gun.
I was actually gaining solid information about the BCS can you guys please stay on topic and quit acting like you have a clue. Thanks.
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What is the pecking order of the bowl games this year? Doesn't The big ten champ automatically get the Rose Bowl game if they are not playing the national championship still?
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Unless they've changed things without my permission (  ), yes the Big Ten Champ is supposed to go to the Rose, Big 12 Fiesta, SEC Sugar, etc. Then there is a "pecking" order----I think the Bowl that loses one of it's teams to the Title Game gets to pick first,....something like that.
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Gotcha.
I wish they would just do away with the BCS system and go the playoff route. I really think this way is truly the only way to determine a legit national champion. Every year we get the what if's and that isn't good for NCAA as a whole.
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If I wanted to be condescending I would have and done a better job then the one your accusing me of already.
Condescending. Pfft.
I have take Fletchs side on this one, he can do a waaaay better job than that of being condescending 
As to what you said about Georgia and Oklahoma meeting , I just dont see it. I think Florida will come out of the SEC undefeated, which means they will have beat Georgia and I do not see USC losing in the Pac 10. Lets face it, there is no one in the PAC 10 to really challenge USC. The only way USC loses is if the get bored and come into a game unprepared, I will say though, it has happened before(last year). I think if OU goes undefeated they are going to need Florida and USC to have lost to get the title game shot.
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Unless they've changed things without my permission ( ), yes the Big Ten Champ is supposed to go to the Rose, Big 12 Fiesta, SEC Sugar, etc. Then there is a "pecking" order----I think the Bowl that loses one of it's teams to the Title Game gets to pick first,....something like that.
HMMM thats interesting, so assuming USC goes undefeated they would get NC game, so there fore the Rose Bowl gets a pick and they do not have to take a PAC 10 team. I still think Oho STate wins the Big Ten(yea I am a homer) would it be possible for the Rose Bowl to take another Big Ten team??one loss OSU VS a one Loss Penn State??
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Yeah that is a logical conclusion. I didn't think it would happen but my reasoning was somewhat different. Florida and USC right now looks like the main game, but after that I would be lying if I said I had a real clue. Hey send me your IT 205N and COM 135 week four day seven assignments, I am too lazy to finish them up! LOL
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What do you like better, 8 teams 4 weeks or 6 teams 3 weeks? I've heard both and either way think it could be done. Unfortunately conferences won't give up the bowl money they receive so I doubt either ever happens. 
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i doubt they pick 2 from the same conf. Altho they prolly won't pick another SEC team to play us cuz they wont think it's fair 
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Hey send me your IT 205N and COM 135 week four day seven assignments, I am too lazy to finish them up! LOL
WHich class names are those? not sure if I took those. IT 205 does not sound familiar and I think I skipped over COm135 and have to go back and take it.
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Management of information systems (IT 205N) and Business communication for the IT professional (COM 135).
COM 135 is COM 140 on steroids. Cake.
I was joking BTW too.
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Management of information systems (IT 205N) and Business communication for the IT professional (COM 135).
COM 135 is COM 140 on steroids. Cake.
I was joking BTW too.
I know you were, I took IT205. Good old Bead Bar huh??LOL
SO you must be working on Evolution of Programming Languages Microsoft® PowerPoint® Presentation due today?
I am pretty sure I took Com135 as one of my first classes but I dont see the folder from that class saved on my hard drive. You should be in read and discuss week in that class, you shouldnt have a day 7 assignment.
I have INtro to WLAN work I need to get done today, I am going to do it while I watch the game.
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Yes on IT 205N No on COM 135 yes it was a DQ week but I have an article summary assignment due today. Yes the good ole bead bar, I had some jackass in the class recommend a super minicomputer for them too meet there needs 
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What do you like better, 8 teams 4 weeks or 6 teams 3 weeks? I've heard both and either way think it could be done. Unfortunately conferences won't give up the bowl money they receive so I doubt either ever happens.
I hate to even respond because it is a waste of time in regard to the money aspect,....4 or 8 would be my pick though---I think it would be "unfair" to allow a "bye" in the first week if you only had 6. I lean toward only 4,...I doubt that in the history of polling, anybody has come from below # 4 to claim the title, be it AP, BCS or whatever, after all of the "bowl dust" has/had settled. I would be comfortable taking those four, picked by some "combination score" of all of the major polls.
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Cocktail party is gonna be crazy this year...
What is the "Cocktail party."
The Florida/Georgia game has been held in Jacksonville since the 30's, and has been dubbed the worlds largest cocktail party for as long as I can remember...it was sort of a big tailgate on the Jacksonville Landing before tailgating was really a big deal....lot's of cocktails being mixed.
For me....lots of good words on Fla, but I will just take it one game at a time....too many good teams to muck up the plans.
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Well I nominate you to run the NCAA football system.   Good points you sold me on 4.
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Were I a Gator,.....Georgia, LSU and Alabama would be more "worrisome" than the rest of the SEC.
What a tough pull,...
And there'll be no overlooking The Citadel.
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Well I nominate you to run the NCAA football system.
Good points you sold me on 4.
They could make SO MUCH MORE money,....I just don't get it,...and with just 4, you're only looking at ONE more game per season for just 2 of those teams. And THAT could easily be fixed by not allowing Ohio State to play YSU, Florida--The Citadel, Oklahoma--Chattanooga, etc. etc.
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As for my Buckeyes, let's win the Big 10. Let's hope that we get another crack at USC in the Rose Bowl.
God I hope not. If we play USC in the Rose Bowl, we might as well not show up at all.
you had a good run Hank.
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Besides USC, I would put 4 Sec teams as the next best teams. Florida, Georgia, Lsu, and Alabama are all better than anyone else. The Sec is truly in a league by itself. Even Auburn could beat oklahoma and missouri. The difference between the Sec and all other conferences is the speed and physical play. I never seen so many d-lineman that could move as those boys in the Sec. Lsu was rotating 8-9 guys on the d-line. did anyone see that one defensive end that made that last sack yesterday?? he looked liked he was shot out of a cannon, yet he's a backup.
If I had to pick one Sec team to the championship, I would go with Lsu. I'm convinced they have the best o-line and d-line in the Sec, and I think that will carry them to wins over florida and Alabama, their 2 toughest opponents. But any of those 4 would run over any opponent from the big 12, or Big 10. I think they're that good.
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yea no kidding. carrol would really run up a score for having to beat us twice.
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Bowl season will tell us how good the SEC is. Over the last two bowl seasons, the SEC is 3-3 against the Big 10. We'll see in January.
I don't think anybody beats Florida this year. They are as close to perfect as it gets.
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But who have they beaten? I really don't think we can say they are the "perfect" team when they haven't beaten an even marginally impressive opponent (Miami is decent but in no way should they have been challenged in that game) On top of that, they're almost guaranteed a loss in that conference. If an SEC team runs the table I will be truly impressed.
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Bowl season will tell us how good the SEC is. Over the last two bowl seasons, the SEC is 3-3 against the Big 10. We'll see in January.
I don't think anybody beats Florida this year. They are as close to perfect as it gets.
in those 2 years the sec champion has whipped up on the big 10 champion by 14 or more points. Look, I'm a big 10 guy, but also enjoy watching good football. At this point, I don't think anyone could argue that the sec has the best players overall, top to bottom. I don't think it's even close. I watched indiana get spanked by ball state yesterday. at the same time I was tuning in to Lsu-auburn. the level of play between both games was obvious. indiana put a defense on the field that was at the bottom, or in 1aa's class. It's just not indiana either, most of the big tens defenses are SLOW. I bet most d-lineman in that auburn-lsu game would outrun the hoosiers' linebackers.
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