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Thu, Oct 2 2008» Brown Nate Bennett: Traitor - Barry McBride http://blogs.theobr.com/"Just because we waived him doesn’t meant that he has to sign up with… them. Yes, Nate Bennett is now with Baltimore, having been signed today to their practice squad. I always had a funny feeling about that guy. Now I know why. Knowing him, Bennett will probably give Rex Ryan every detail about the Browns offensive playbook. Which will be a disaster because the Ravens defense, um, you know, had such a hard time dealing with it when we played them before. If the Browns lose to the Ravens again, let’s make sure we all blame it on Nate’s treachery. " So that's why the ratbirds looked like they were in our back pocket.
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This is rediculous, stuff like this happens all the time in the nfl, not a big deal at all.
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Nate who?  Someone should inform Chud. He needs to bring back the playbook we used last year anyways. 
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I have a zit on my ass more useful then Barry McBride. He's a crap pusher and runs a crappy site. View the hack source and take it for what it's NOT worth.
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I'm sorry, who is Nate Bennett?
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Thu, Oct 2 2008» Brown Nate Bennett: Traitor - Barry McBride
http://blogs.theobr.com/
"Just because we waived him doesn’t meant that he has to sign up with… them. Yes, Nate Bennett is now with Baltimore, having been signed today to their practice squad. I always had a funny feeling about that guy. Now I know why.
Knowing him, Bennett will probably give Rex Ryan every detail about the Browns offensive playbook. Which will be a disaster because the Ravens defense, um, you know, had such a hard time dealing with it when we played them before. If the Browns lose to the Ravens again, let’s make sure we all blame it on Nate’s treachery. "
So that's why the ratbirds looked like they were in our back pocket.
Yeah, what a terrible guy, he's out of work for over a week, shame on him for trying to continue his dream by playing in the national freaking football league.
Just making a practice squad is a huge deal to these guys and pays very well by real-world standards. And of course, if he works hard, he might find himself on an active roster some day.
Also, lol @ a lower-teir practice squad guy knowing 'every detail' of the playbook, that's funny.
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If he knew every detail,we should have kept him.He might have been able to teach it to KW and Brey-Brey.
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Phil Savage from the linked article:
"I was at Oklahoma yesterday, and I had a chance to talk to Bob Stoops. We’re pretty decent friends, and we were talking about their team. They’re the number one team in the country, and I know it’s college football, but we’re talking a little bit about the Browns. He’s from Youngstown, he follows the team to a degree. He said “Well, you guys had a lot of injuries, and look at the schedule you guys played. You guys played Dallas, you played Pittsburgh, and then you played that Ravens defense. I don’t know, I mean realistically, you guys probably survived the thing, and if you can build off that, you’ll be okay.”
I’m sitting there thinking to myself, “OK, here’s the coach of the number one team in the country, who has a pretty decent understanding of what really this team’s going through”. I mean, you don’t miss the quarterback, running back, and both receivers for significant amounts of time and then just waltz out there and score 28 points against the Cowboys, the Steelers, or the Ravens. I know that’s what people expected, but it’s not reality ."
And the reality is.... 1 and 3. No one sucks and no one's an idiot. It's right in line with what common sense would have expected.
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Who the hell is Nate Bennett? Is this supposed to be sarcastic?  I know the link said it's from a blog.
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Phil Savage from the linked article:
"I was at Oklahoma yesterday, and I had a chance to talk to Bob Stoops. We’re pretty decent friends, and we were talking about their team. They’re the number one team in the country, and I know it’s college football, but we’re talking a little bit about the Browns. He’s from Youngstown, he follows the team to a degree. He said “Well, you guys had a lot of injuries, and look at the schedule you guys played. You guys played Dallas, you played Pittsburgh, and then you played that Ravens defense. I don’t know, I mean realistically, you guys probably survived the thing, and if you can build off that, you’ll be okay.”
I’m sitting there thinking to myself, “OK, here’s the coach of the number one team in the country, who has a pretty decent understanding of what really this team’s going through”. I mean, you don’t miss the quarterback, running back, and both receivers for significant amounts of time and then just waltz out there and score 28 points against the Cowboys, the Steelers, or the Ravens. I know that’s what people expected, but it’s not reality ."
And the reality is.... 1 and 3. No one sucks and no one's an idiot. It's right in line with what common sense would have expected.
I'm beginning to like Savage less and less. That's an overly simplistic view of the situation and completely ignores and underscores the real issues on this team.
The cold hard reality of the situation is that no one would be upset with 1-3 if it went down differently. Not one single injury can be tied to DA not being able to hit a wide open receiver. Not one single injury can be tied to poor clock management. Not one single injury can be tied to giving up on our team in the first game. Not one single injury can be tied to not catching a ball that hits the receiver squarely in the hands. Not one single injury can be tied to the numerous pre-snap penalties.
Savage is kidding himself and feeding the fanbase a load of crap. He better hope that crap starts smelling like roses over the next 4 or 5 weeks ... or what will he come up with next? There are so many things wrong with this team that cannot be traced to injury.
I mean how ridiculous is it to believe it's ok to lose to good teams because their good ... for crying out loud ... isn't that what we are trying to achieve here ... to be good ourselves? It's ok we lost to them ... their good ... Crikey ...
The fans just want a good product on the field ... a team that competes, is in every game, shows some discipline and heart, and plays fundamental sound football ... after that, let the chips and record fall where they may.
We do not have a good product, and it really goes much deeper than 1-3.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I'm beginning to like Savage less and less. That's an overly simplistic view of the situation and completely ignores and underscores the real issues on this team.
I'm beginning to think less and less of you 
Consider your chain yanked 
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This is rediculous, stuff like this happens all the time in the nfl, not a big deal at all.
Yes, it was a joke. Or an attempt at one.
Whenever a player goes to a division rival someone always comments about him giving up the team secrets, so I offer up Bennett as a scapegoat if the Ravens kick our collective butts again.
My humor doesn't always translate. Sorry for the confusion.
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I have a zit on my ass more useful then Barry McBride. He's a crap pusher and runs a crappy site. View the hack source and take it for what it's NOT worth.
You sound angry at me. If there's anything you want to talk about, feel free to contact me directly via the OBR web site.
You make a good point, however. From a societal perspective, I think that we all have zits on our asses more productive than sportswriters and webdorks. An ass zit at least helps work out some sort of dirt or a clogged pore, or whatever zits do. I'd argue that they likely perform a useful biological function, making them by definition more valuable than the entire sportswriting profession. You may want to wash that area more frequently, however.
Based on what I read on the web, see on TV, or hear on the radio, it's hard to be more useless than someone who writes about sports. But it's more fun than real work, so lots of people want to do it anyway. I guess I'm one of them.
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Quit using your brain when breaking down the Browns rishuz.....just look at the surface...our QB missed a few preseason games..BE did too...Jamal missed preseason too....thats why we are 1-3...thats it...totally.
And we get another 4 games free pass after JJ comes bck, cuz hes missed so much time....it will take him and the O atleast 4 weeks to get into gear.
Its not scheme, talent, coaching, prepartion or anything deepeer than that....its much easier on the brain to blame it on something that no body is accountable for...injuries...
I agree with you! It is SO MUCH DEEPER
The injuries effected us, but didnt kill us.......but im not losing faith in Phil yet...
Thatswhy this Giants game is mega for this regime...if they look bad yet again, his time u cant blame injuries or lack of time...or the usual blah blah blah...its nobodies fault.
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You sound angry at me. If there's anything you want to talk about, feel free to contact me directly via the OBR web site.
Angry at you? First I would have to know who the hell you were to actually give a damn about you.
Why would I want to contact you at some OBR website? Are you the owner or something? No matter but if so I wouldn't be proud of your work as a webmaster and a so called sports writer.
If you have an issue with me feel free to PM me at this board, I am easily found. Trust me I won't go searching for you at some website you seem to be pimping.
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"I mean how ridiculous is it to believe it's ok to lose to good teams because their good ... for crying out loud ... isn't that what we are trying to achieve here"
Actually that was a total misrepresentation of what he said. He sited that missing
our QB
our RB
our WR Stud
add Our best graded interior OLman (tucker)
For a whole month leading up to the start of the season and have them all playing (except Tucker) for the first time missing all that key timing of TC and Preseason but most important PRACTICE!!! And then find it surprising that we face 3 top defenses in the NFL and he's stating the reality of it all. In other words its not that he thought we would lose and expected us to lose. Its just he is not in some panic mode for the losses cause with a viable, healthy and clicking Offense we could just as well be 3-1 instead of 1-3. But it is what it is.
All Savage is saying is that he is not in panic mode. He is not too surprised because it is the number one reason our offense has been slow out of the gates. Of course I will pin a little more on DA cause I think he was the one individual who could have pulled the Offense together to play through it...and he did not - he actually dragged it down a bit.
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Eo...great response, great debate.
I didn't mean to misrepresent what he said, and before typing this I did not go back and read it again.
But this is the thing. Savage seems to be excusing the losses in part due to who we played. I just think there is something very fundamentally wrong with that line of thinking, especially when it was poor play, poor execution, and poor in-game HC decisions that were a larger reason why we lost than just that we played some top defenses.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I know partly what Phil is saying..but dang...he comes across like the fans should have excpected to lose, cuz a few players were rusty...had we been missing them completely I could see.
It comes off wrong...its too whiny...sure injuries have hampered us...but execution and coaching has killed us.
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I think Savage is just being real.
We are on the verge of being GOOD we still had to prove it. Last season we played a lot of bad teams. But we were besieged by injuries, not an excuse the reality.
For us to beat these top teams...we needed perfection.
Coaching...that is what he was trying to tell ya. How can we be prepared to the state of perfection when your Starting WR and Starting QB had their first practices together on Wednesday before the game - FOR A MONTH! And Jamal was getting the rust off a couple of days earlier.
On top of that the one starter that was there...Stallworth, comes up lame, ON GAME DAY. On top of that the only stud around was then KW2 who because of the delicate conditions of his knees gets limited playing time and practice time!
How do we come out and play perfect! How do you say...See the coaches just didn't have them ready...lol man there is so much more involved than you can imagine.
I looked at the face of RAC - I know you all interepret that as some deer in headlights look. I'm looking at him and feel his pain. Cause he didn't have the OPPORTUNITY to have this team come out Crack Firing on all cylinders and close to perfection for the JOB AT HAND.
And our weaker link Defense had its injuries as well. Peak (pass rush) Pool/Jones never seeing the field together...dropping depth making Adams a starter and elevating Cousins at Nickel. Losing Robaire, McG out 2 games.
But lets complete the trifecta! Special Teams! We got the most lethal return man in football and he's been out or playing HURT and not effective in procuring us the advantage of Field position!
Friedman...so, so important to our special teams, out for the season.
Sure signatures of top teams is to have depth and fill the injuries. We are not that TOP team...we were at the bridge with maybe our starters...possibly we could have afforded One or Two missing. But we were bombarded....and then facing 3 teams playing at the top of their game...Boom, Boom Boom - I know you all want to show how smart we are with Monday Qbing....Yeah it was the time-out calls or lack of it that was the ball n chain. 
Sorry...I think its good that our GM is not panicking - I wish we would start BQ at QB but thats my personal assessment - still. Its good not to panic if you can understand what just happened to us. We just had a Train Wreck and didn't come out of it too well. But the talent of being a football person (Savage) not a fan (us) is to identify the problems and fix what you can. I think Savage is no fool. He Explained why he is not panicking of course to some who wish to benefit their opinion will Claim "Excuse". No, he's just being real and moving on!
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A few things:
--I don't think RAC is an unintelligent man. Actually, just the opposite.
--I also notice those eyes on the sideline ... they don't look like deer in the headlight eyes to me...they look like pain, anger, frustration.
--I believe RAC prepares the team during the week. The team looks unprepared argument is tough to prove. Plus, I doubt there isn't anything but hard work going on during the week leading up to a game.
What I also believe is that while players love and respect RAC, he doesn't know how to inspire them ... how to get the most of out of them. That's what is being mistaken for a lack of preparedness. He doesn't know how to get them to rise to the challenge ... and that is a very different skill than just being loved and respected ... you can be loved and respected but not inspire. RAC does not have a control of this team from that aspect. And the things he says about the team in the media is downright deflating as a fan ... and I have to believe as a player.
Then there is the in-game decision making. The game appears to move to fast for him as a HC.
Back to the thread ... I am glad Savage is not panicinig also. However, Savage's comments about who we played fell in line with the type of stuff Crennel says ... "we need to play well to give ourselves a chance" type of stuff ... they are a defeatist type of attitude. They don't seem to be comments consistent with that of an up and rising young team that should be at least competing with the best ... by now ... by Year 4.
The Ravens D shows no sign of slippage at this point ... they look like they can keep on going for another 3 or 4 years with that nucleus, and if track record means anything, the Wizard will start pluggin' in new guys and keep on trucking. My point is, whether Savage is being realistic or not, are we ok to use the "they have a great defense" excuse when playing teams. This could go on forever.
I know he's alluding to a perfect storm of events ... teams we played, injuries, missed practice time ... but damn, that's football. The Ravens were starting a rookie QB.
By Year 4 we should be able to compete with anyone. I'm not saying win, I'm saying play inspired, fundamental football, even with backups and compete regardless of the situation or who we are playing.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Hey, then this team should look good against NY, WASH, and DEN...if injuries really are the biggie and RAC and Staff are doing their job...then this team should stay in the next 4 games.
The next 4 weeks are gonna tell awhole lot about awhole bunch of players and coaches.
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I have a zit on my ass more useful then Barry McBride. He's a crap pusher and runs a crappy site. View the hack source and take it for what it's NOT worth.
And you brought him out of the woodwork.
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And you brought him out of the woodwork.
I thought only cockroaches and termites lived "in the woodwork"?
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I have a zit on my ass more useful then Barry McBride. He's a crap pusher and runs a crappy site. View the hack source and take it for what it's NOT worth. Let's see.....this is "Pure Football".........
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Point? Did you make these inane comments about the Roger Brown threads when the mere mention of his name made the material be deemed by many posters as "junk" ? That's what I did with this author no different. No matter if it is Barry McBride crap or Roger Brown crap, both equal crap. Don't whine about my comments "not being pure football" because just YOU pointing the out is being a hypocrite. Lose your high horse attitude, it's not smart to be on one when you yourself are whining about what others do. 
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Hey, I'm just saying what everyone says when anyone makes any comment that doesn't include that Xs and Os.
Grow a pair.
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I thought joke threads didn't belong in pure football to begin with? Looks like old Barry got one over on dawgtalk after all.
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