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I have no "inside" information, but it appears to me that with no recent activity in interviewing candidates for the vacant OC position that Savage may have his mind set on who he wants as OC.
We have interviewed Knapp, Davidson, and Scherer with no hiring yet.
We requested an interview with Jason Garrett and was declined. Huizenga stated he wants to hire his head coach and see who they want to remain on the staff. Understandable- the current staff is still under contract and collecting paychecks.
After that I can't remember any other interviews or requests.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but if Savage was going to appoint Knapp the OC he would have done it by now. The other two are on the Browns staff and aren't going anywhere for now.
It appears that Savage wants Garrett and he is waiting to see how the Dolphins coaching debacle plays out.
On the other hand Savage may want to request an interview with an assistant that is currently on an active playoff team.
Other teams are hiring OC's and it's starting to bother me that we are seem to be in a stall pattern right now. After we hire the OC we still have some position coaches to find. I don't want to end up picking from whats left over again. We need to be proactive on this and not reactive.
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Well my first thought is that we could be waiting for the fallout of other team's head coaching positions. Just a thought
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Something else we might be waiting on is a potential candidate whose team is still in the playoffs, just a thought.
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I dont think or believe they have choosen one yet,
just a thought, who is Indy's Off. Cordinator, ?...San diego is Cam, but he's up for head coaching jobs and might be next in line if Marty dosent return.
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Savage said pretty much exactly this in his press conference -- that their thought was to hire someone sooner as opposed to later becasue they have a lot of work to do on offense and the draft is coming up. As well, he did give the impression that he is fielding a lot of calls for the various open positions.
Maybe circumstances have changed, or maybe they're still evaluating -- or maybe he's taking a break. I'd be more worried if this was April and I do expect they'll have someone in place soon. Otherwise, you may be right -- they could have their eye on someone on a playoff team.
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I think if they chose one, they would be shouting it from the roof tops... JMO however..
The alternative is that they have someone in mind but that persons team is still in the hunt...
Actually, for the last several days, things have been very quiet.. it does make you wonder doesn't it.
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just a thought, who is Indy's Off. Cordinator, ?...
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I guess you miss understand what I was trying to say. The OC has not been hired, but possibly chosen and willing to wait for.
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LOL,,Yeah, your right I did misunderstand... Sorry! For the person who asked, the OC of the Colts is Tom Moore http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=10
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Of these, I want to know about which one runs a West coast O scheme. Heard something about interest in this-- certainly scheme would cast a net over FA and draft. Are any of these from that setup? Da Browns: Turn the corner! Mercilessly crush opponents! Maybe in Madden . . . 
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Tom Moore is the Indy OC but why would he even consider leaving them to be our OC? Don't think he is on our radar but what about one of their offensive position coaches? Who is the Indy Qb coach or their Wr coach?
Don't think we raid NE. If that is what we are looking for we go with Davidson.
Doubt we raid NO. This is the 1st year that staff has been together. Just don't think there will be much turnover.
Chicago? Heck no. Their offense isn't much better than ours. Though you might be able to put most of the blame on Grossman. Definitely stay away from their Qb coach. Their Wr coach seems to have done a good job as has their Rb coach.
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Don't think he is on our radar but what about one of their offensive position coaches? Who is the Indy Qb coach or their Wr coach?
Already tried that, his name was Bruce Arians. It didn't end well...
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Don't think he is on our radar but what about one of their offensive position coaches? Who is the Indy Qb coach or their Wr coach?
Already tried that, his name was Bruce Arians. It didn't end well...
hahahah it's funny how a coach can look so good on winning teams and when they are here... yeah
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I think we have even if we don't know it yet.
Knapp is waiting for another offer....any offer because this probably has to be about as bad a situation as is out there. If the guy has any money at all, it might be a better thing for him to go a year out of coaching with the rocky situation that now exists in Cleveland. Plus....if Knapp doesn't get anything else, how good could he really be?? If he is getting other offers, he would be dumb to not give those more weight than our offer.
I suspect Rip will get the job...that way we can say we have a new coordinator which will shut-up the press for a while...at least until 2-3 games pass next season. If Davidson gets the job, it would be too easy to paint it as the "same old,same old", and the Browns want to spin this as something new.
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Rip will probably get the job if we default and it stays in-house.
If we were going to go after a college coach I think we would have interviewed them by now. Although wasn't there speculation that Savage and Ferentz were buddies. If that's the case maybe an informal interview has already taken place. If Ferentz gets the job he will be our next HC when that position opens up.
After all of the recent turmoil in the league I think Savage is waiting to see how the Dolphins and Chargers handle their HC positions. If new Head Coaches are brought in they will more than likely want to fill their own staffs leaving a few coordinators and position coaches looking for work.
Once again I think Savage has a preference list and he is waiting until the people at the top of the list become available or unavailable whichever the case may be. He will then fall back to someone currently on our staff.
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If we were going to go after a college coach I think we would have interviewed them by now. Although wasn't there speculation that Savage and Ferentz were buddies. If that's the case maybe an informal interview has already taken place. If Ferentz gets the job he will be our next HC when that position opens up.
If Savage had a crystal ball -sure - get the guy who's a strong OC candidate, and ALSO a strong HC candidate.
People assume that Knapp is shying away because of instability with RAC, but there's also the lure of him possibly taking over for RAC.
I don't think he wants to put in a new system this year taking the chance that it fails and another new system is needed after that with a new HC. That would probably cost him his own job.
The problem with both of those scenarios, is that if the OC succeeds he probably saves RAC's job anyway - at least for the short term.
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That seems right.
Savage has to balance that out with the time factor, though, and how long he's willing to wait. He sounded like he wanted to avoid that at the press conference, but what can you do if you don't "love" anyone you've interviewed. Rather wait than pick someone I think is not right for the job.
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That is a sound point....a bad pick followed by a bad pick isn't any good.
You might as well stay where you are.
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just a thought, who is Indy's Off. Cordinator, ?...San diego is Cam, but he's up for head coaching jobs and might be next in line if Marty dosent return.
Just a thought... who is New England's OC? Could they be looking to pick someone else from the Belicheck vine?
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The answer to the whole mess is really fairly simple, face the facts and demote or get rid of RAC. Hire a NEW head coach and a new OC, then we could get some decent FA to at least consider coming here.  Or, we could save ourselves a lot of cap room and headaches by keeping Rac and trading all of our top 4 picks for picks next year and save them until we get a real HC and he hires a real staff, one with a winning track record. Just level with the fans, stop the spin and knock off the kool-aid sales in Berea. The faithful might find it a lot easier to deal with the truth for a change.  This is just another repeat of the Carthon mistake, don't prolong it, just do the right thing for the good of everyone involved with the current farce.. Bite the bullet and get on with it, it's as obvious as night and day. Rac's a nice guy, players coach, bla, bla, bla, but the most important thing, he is NOT quality HC material and NEVER will be. His time has passed him by and so should the Browns.
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"Just a thought... who is New England's OC? Could they be looking to pick someone else from the Belicheck vine?"
First thing I thought of when reading the original post of this thread. 
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Josh McDaniels enters his sixth NFL season and his sixth season in New England. He joined the Patriots on March 1, 2001 as a personnel assistant in the scouting department and assisted the defensive coaching staff for three seasons. He began serving as the Patriots' quarterbacks coach in 2004 and was named offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on January 20, 2006.
In the two seasons since he began serving as quarterbacks coach, McDaniels has worked closely with starting signal caller Tom Brady, helping him set career highs in major passing categories. In 2005, Brady led the NFL with a career-best 4,110 passing yards, a number that exceeded his previous career high by nearly 350 yards and represents the second highest yardage total in Patriots history. In 2004, Brady set a career high by recording a 92.6 passer rating, besting his previous career mark by six points.
In his two seasons working with McDaniels, Brady has compiled the top two passer ratings of his six-year career - 92.6 (2004) and 92.3 (2005). Additionally, Brady has consistently completed longer passes in his two seasons working with McDaniels, averaging 7.77 yards per attempt, more than a yard higher than his average of 6.62 yards per attempt in his three previous seasons as a starter.
Last season under McDaniels, Patriots quarterbacks threw 28 touchdown passes, tying the fourthhighest total for the position in franchise history. The mark was also achieved in 1986, 2002 and 2004, McDaniels' first season as quarterbacks coach. Also in 2005, the Patriots finished the season as the NFL's second-ranked passing offense (257.5 yards per game), marking the team's highest ranking in that category in 11 seasons.
In addition to assisting in Brady's continued development, McDaniels has tutored Matt Cassel, a four-year backup quarterback in college and a seventh- round draft choice in 2005. In the 2005 regularseason finale, Cassel threw his first two touchdown passes since high school as he led the Patriots on a fourth-quarter comeback against Miami that fell just two points short.
In 2004, McDaniels earned his first positional coaching responsibilities and worked with Brady to help the quarterback produce the highest passer rating of his career (92.9) and the second highest single-season passer rating in team history. Brady's 28 touchdown passes ranked second in the AFC and tied his career high set in 2002.
Upon his arrival in New England prior to the 2001 season, McDaniels served as a personnel assistant and quickly expanded his role to include film breakdown and scouting preparation for the defensive coaching staff. He became a coaching assistant in February of 2002. In that role, his responsibilities included film breakdown and scouting chart preparations for the defensive staff. In 2003, he drew additional responsibilities working with the defensive backs.
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He sounds like a good candidate to me.
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He sounds like a good candidate to me.
He'd be a lateral move, right? I didn't think that was possible - even less likely...
Technically, teams don't need to allow a coach to talk for anything less than a HC position from what I understand.
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He sounds like a good candidate to me.
He'd be a lateral move, right? I didn't think that was possible - even less likely...
That is where the 'assistant head coach' comes into play... maybe.
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He sounds like a good candidate to me.
He'd be a lateral move, right? I didn't think that was possible - even less likely...
That is where the 'assistant head coach' comes into play... maybe.
I thought I read that the assistant coach title can't be used for that purpose.......maybe I'm just tired.
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Doesn't matter - Davidson is already our Asst. Head Coach, pretty sure you only get one per team.
Also rumor has it Al Davis is hot on Josh McDaniels and he could be a candidate for their HC job. Young QB guru.
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Davidson is already our Asst. Head Coach, pretty sure you only get one per team
Not sure how many you can have but wanted to put this out there .
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Tim Davis Assistant Offensive Line
TBD Tight Ends
George Edwards Linebackers
John Gamble Director of Player Development/Special Assistant to the Head Coach
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Its the Miami dolphins coaches it has a couple assistents.
maybe that's the team i'm thinking about, because i saw somewhere that a team had assistant HC offense and assistant HC defense.
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I dont think or believe they have choosen one yet,
just a thought, who is Indy's Off. Cordinator, ?...San diego is Cam, but he's up for head coaching jobs and might be next in line if Marty dosent return.
Tom Moore, but I'm pulling for experience and that's what Knapp brings, be interesting to see which offensive coordinator uses Bray, K2, JJ, and Droughns the best......
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I think some people are forgetting that if a current OC is under contract they cannot interview with another team to be their OC. That wolud be a lateral move and the league won't allow that. If a current OC has their contract expire after this year then they are essentially a free agent and able to negotiate with who they want. I scan all of the sites I can to find out if the Browns are actively persuing anyone and I can't find anything, anywhere. Savage has his eye on someone that isn't available yet. I don't know who it is, but it is obvious to me. He also has made his plan B interviews already in case he can't get his guy. Feeling is its Garrett.
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So Dom Capers is the Dwight Schrute of the Dolphins?!
Sorry, anyway, to see that we havent hired one makes me think it will prolly stay in-house.
I would be ok with Rip or Davidson getting the job. It wasnt their system that was killing our O, ill allow them a chance to right the ship.
Interesting thought that I had about Rip, is if he can be OC, then we need a new QB coach, hopefully someone who has been a QB before so we dont necessarily need a Veteran QB to mentor Charlie
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Doesn't matter - Davidson is already our Asst. Head Coach, pretty sure you only get one per team.
Who is NE's QB coach?
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NE QB coach is the OC McDaniels...he serves both duties
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One other thing that people are forgetting is that the NFL considers ALL Asst coach jobs equal and lateral. This means that going from "Asst Strength and training Coach in charge of Monday morning ice packs" to Offensive Coordinator is a lateral move. No team is required to allow the move.
Head Coach is an upward move, thus teams cannot block a guy from interviewing. A team can stop an Asst Coach from interviewing for a different Asst Coach position with another team, even though some teams won't stand in a position coach's path if he can obtain a coordinator position with another team. (usually at least out of the division)
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Well Cam Cameron was offered the HC job in Miami.
Hopefully he takes it and we can see how this plays out.
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One other thing that people are forgetting is that the NFL considers ALL Asst coach jobs equal and lateral. This means that going from "Asst Strength and training Coach in charge of Monday morning ice packs" to Offensive Coordinator is a lateral move.
ever since i read that this morning i've been searching for an updated rule guideline for hiring coaches. i've had zero luck doing so. would you know where i can find it?
i'm asking because what you just said makes absolutely no sense at all. a move from an assistant OL coach to offensive coordinator isn't a step up? i do believe that the OC position makes alot more money than the rest of the coaches. (except HC of course) because of the responsibility involved.
an AOL coach would be moving up to the OL coach position wouldn't he? if not, then he is equal to the OL coach. if that's the case which one has the final say?
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Phil said the same thing during his presser the other day... The only move that allows for a coach (under contract) to interview with another team is the head coaching position. It use to be for any move up in position. Not anymore.. Too many coaches were bailing I guess.
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because this probably has to be about as bad a situation as is out there
along this line of thinking...
If a possible canidate thought that Romeo could possibly be ousted next year, or was a coach on thin ice...why would he want to come here? Unless said canidate thought he might have a shot at HC...
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