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anyone watching him on BSPN?
gee, a little bitterness there?
unprofessional, on his part. letting his past with the team get in the way of reporting.
you're a stiff, trent.
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Well, if you go to the Gameday forum you'll see several people agree with his comments.
I think he's a disgruntled former employee that just wanted to take shots at the Browns because his buddy got benched. Whatever, Trent...guess what...you sucked, too.
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Well, if you go to the Gameday forum you'll see several people agree with his comments.
I think he's a disgruntled former employee that just wanted to take shots at the Browns because his buddy got benched. Whatever, Trent...guess what...you sucked, too.
What she said.
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Well, if you go to the Gameday forum you'll see several people agree with his comments.
I think he's a disgruntled former employee that just wanted to take shots at the Browns because his buddy got benched. Whatever, Trent...guess what...you sucked, too.
"you don't bench quarterbacks on bad teams"
really, trent?
have you watched the nfl? because it happens everywhere.
i just love some of the backlash i am hearing, as if derek anderson were our franchise qb that won us 3 super bowls.
he said we're a bad team. while we are not a great team, nor a very good team, i think we're a good team that has played a rough schedule (who have the jets really played?)
we're 3-5 and i see no reason why anyone should question the move. we need a prayer to make the playoffs, and i don't see the big deal.
chicago made the change from grossman to orton last year, and nobody flinched, but because we have quinn on the bench, it's a thing? (wow a bad team making a quarterback change, which turned out to be the right move, how about that one, trent?)
again, this topic is less about quinn and more about trent dilfer's unprofessionalism tonight. grow up trent.
but hey, if i get benched for charlie frye, i'd probably just shoot myself.
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but hey, if i get benched for charlie frye, i'd probably just shoot myself.
Ha ha ha.....and the funny thing is that he should have been pulled for frye even earlier than what happened.
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but hey, if i get benched for charlie frye, i'd probably just shoot myself.
Ha ha ha.....and the funny thing is that he should have been pulled for frye even earlier than what happened.
and my guess is that is exactly what the bitterness is all about, he was too high and mighty to get benched for a rookie qb, and a middle round pick at that
but guess what? the move did nothing to hurt nor help our organization.
if we stuck with dilfer, we werent going anywhere. and going with frye did nothing.
that's why i don't understand the backlash.it's not like anderson cemented himself as a starter. i was in his boat after the pittsburgh game, but enough is enough, he's not getting it done, our season is virtually over. it's time to see what brady can do,we mortgaged quite a bit of the future on him.
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he might be bitter, but we've done nothing since we've been back to vindicate ourselves as an organization. even the cardinals have turned the corner.
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It's a sad world when a guy with the career stats of Trent Dilfer is an anaylist.
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I missed what happened, anyone care to fill me in?
From the little I gathered in this thread, it's about benching DA?
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ESPN’s Trent Dilfer, who once played for the Browns during his NFL career, had some strong words for the team on Monday night, in the wake of the news that quarterback Derek Anderson has been benched in favor of 2007 first-rounder Brady Quinn.
“There are so many layers of dysfunction that this decision represents,” Dilfer said during the 6:00 p.m. EST SportsCenter. “You never, ever bench a quarterback when you’re a bad football team. You bench a quarterback when you’re a good football team and your quarterback is holding you back. . . . It shows a total lack of discretion and wisdom at the very highlest levels of the Cleveland Brown organization.”
Dilfer said that public opinion forced the decision. “I have spoken to coaches [who] have said, “Hey, this is not Derek Anderson’s fault.’ In fact, at times he’s played far better than his stats show. This is a functon of the defense not being able to get off the football field [and] Braylon Edwards, a superstar receiver that’s supposed to make all the plays and make you better, having 14 drops at least. . . .
“This is an organization that I played for for a year,” Dilfer added, “and I saw very closely that the organization itself is highly dyfunctional and cannot make decisions that are good for the long-term growth of the organization. Cleveland fans are frustrated. They want a winner. They want a consistent winner. Well, these type of decisions are exactly why they’re not a winner now and they won’t be a winner in the future.”
Trent, don’t be so bashful to state your opinion.
Dilfer thinks that Quinn can do well. But Dilfer thinks that Quinn should be nervous, because he’s now the guy who’s in the bull’s-eye once he throws a couple of picks.
The comments of Hall of Fame running back and Executive Advisor Jim Brown from a few weeks back suggest that Quinn could indeed be on a short leash. Brown argued in September that it was time to see what Quinn could do, with the understanding that, if Quinn can’t do it, they could go back to Anderson.
“We don’t have a superstar quarterback,” Brown said. “We have two that have tremendous potential. One has played a lot more than the other has, successfully, and also had some failure. If we try Brady this week, it’s a change of pace. Why not have a change of pace that might bring you a spark? And if he doesn’t cut it, we can bring the other guy back, and we can bring Brady back.”
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/11/03/dilfer-destroys-dyfunctional-browns/
*this whole post is from dong's post in the Quinn to Start thread in Gameday*
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I missed what happened, anyone care to fill me in?
From the little I gathered in this thread, it's about benching DA?
yeah, he was asked to comment on espn (he also basically said the same thing on roda today)
the browns are a bad team, you don't bench quarterbacks on bad teams.
he said he played a year in cleveland and thinks the organization is a complete mess. he said it was a classless move on roda's show, i don't think he said that on television.
he thinks it was a knee jerk reaction.
which, maybe it was. i still don't see a problem with it.
if those a truly your thoughts, i have no problem with that, but you could tell by the way he talked, that he has an ax to grind with the browns.
when you're 3-5 and your quarterback has not been able to come through in 3 games where he had a chance to take the lead late in the 4th, there is a problem.
we addressed that problem. knee jerk reaction, or not, i like the move, i don't see the risk in it.
he also mentioned that this could hurt the confidence of derek anderson.
i actually couldn't believe those words came out of his mouth. i mean, seriously. if we have to worry about anderson's confidence, he should be cut immediately.
i don't think that is a problem, anyways. it's not like this guy was highly touted coming into the league, 2 years ago, he would have been happy to have made any team.
this is more about quinn deserving of a chance. nobody has cemented the starting job, it's his turn.
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not the best reasearcher ever but i can't find a vid of it.
dilf was practically foaming at the mouth. sometimes the analysts have a big beef and it gets out.
i guess trent feels like he was benched by the fans. i doubt anyone in cleveland wants his autograph anyways...
sour grapes.
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It's a sad world when a guy with the career stats of Trent Dilfer is an anaylist.
What's sadder is when Matt Barry, a self-proclaimed "fantasy expert", scores a job with ESPN. I would love to see how the rest of the crew on Countdown treat him. 
Trent's comments don't bother me, I mean nearly everybody here has been saying the same thing... This team isn't playing well on either side of the ball. DA isn't the only problem, yet he's been made the scapegoat. Now I know the move is far from a knee jerk, but there has been far too many knee jerk reactions in this organization since our return... I mean, how many coaches/quarterbacks/GMs can a team go through in nine years?
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Yeah, we should be more like the Bengals and hold onto our coach forever. It's worked very well for them.  Aren't you glad we aren't like them?
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Dilfer is a bitter old man that is mad at how things ended in Cleveland.
He sucks, he was never a good NFL QB, and if he says it was wrong, then it was probably the right move.
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if there was a knee jerk reaction, that would have taken place after the pittsburgh loss.
dilfer also mentioned that the organization did this to sell tickets (i guess there are quite a few suites that are being re-done) and doing this for the fans.
and again, that would have been done long ago if that were the case.
i think this move has been one in the making. maybe sunday was the final straw.
let's be serious, i think most of us on this board would have guessed at the beginning of the year that quinn would have seen time at some point this season.
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Yeah, we should be more like the Bengals and hold onto our coach forever. It's worked very well for them. Aren't you glad we aren't like them?
How long have people been calling for RAC to be fired? His second year? I'm not saying to do nothing when something should be done, but the organization shouldn't change everything just for the sake of change.
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not the best reasearcher ever but i can't find a vid of it.
dilf was practically foaming at the mouth. sometimes the analysts have a big beef and it gets out.
i guess trent feels like he was benched by the fans. i doubt anyone in cleveland wants his autograph anyways...
sour grapes.
I agree
BTW the video is now in ESPN's cue on the right side of their homepage "Countdown Daily 11/3 - Brady Quinn Starting"
Here's the link straight to it
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It was pretty sad even Boomer i think it was said his emotions came out...
Bad team? Wow, how about bad performing team that needs a spark of life?
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It was qretty sad even Boomer i think it was said his emotions came out...
Bad team? Wow, how about bad performing team that needs a spark of life?
i really don't think we're a bad team. i know a lot of people in chicago have told me that they think the browns are a good team that has shot itself in the foot quite a few times, and with their schedule, you can't afford to do that.
we aren't a great team by any means. great teams stop the run, we don't do that.
but even though we were a 10 win team last year, i actually think this current team is better.
part of it is the quarterback, however, there is blame to be put elsewhere. like i said, our run defense is going to make it hard to be a afc north champion.
dropped balls, penalties, and scheming by our coordinators.
and the play of the linebackers doesn't sniff average. a few guys have had good games, but as much as we hate the ravens, suggs, scott, and lewis bring it each and every week.
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that vid should be played in the locker room before practice. it's great.
anderson is the ONLY guy who isn't at fault according to dilf. everyone else from the FO through the players and even the fans are all under the bus.
this guy could be our best motivational speaker this week in practice. super job dilf.
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It's Trent Dilfer.....Should we really even care.....I didnt care what he said when he was here why in the heck should I care when he's gone.
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Whoa, one minute I'm reading "Derek is out QB, at this time", and now Quinn is in? I really missed something eh? 
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Dilfer knocked the Browns pretty good. I saw all of it and IMHO it was commentary of emotion on his part. Letting Dilfer comment on this is like asking OJ to comment about the Vegas justice system. Trent Flippin Dilfer...
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Yeah, anyone who knows history knows that dilfer made himself look like an idiot today...
Saying that anderson was playing well and other reasons were why we haven't won is ignorant and he clearly hasnt watched any of the games.
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Yeah, anyone who knows history knows that dilfer made himself look like an idiot today...
Saying that anderson was playing well and other reasons were why we haven't won is ignorant and he clearly hasnt watched any of the games.
he probably hasn't. at least not full games, maybe a few highlights.
but the guy is at the bottom of the league in quarterback rating, and he's not even listed in completion % because it's so bad.
stats aren't everything, but if you are a quarterback, and aren't doing well in either of those categories at the week 9 mark, something's wrong.
i know the drops don't help, but neither does throwing a back-breaking pass to a wide open linebacker.
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Trent Dilfer is being a blow hard, just like the rest of the ESPN "annalists". The media isn't talking about how the Broncos pass defense is among the worst in the league (ranked 27th), I think it's ok to put Quinn in, even though it is a short week; he will be rested since he hasn't played all year. I'm picking Brady Quinn in my fantasy league...
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i'm also sick of hearing this whole "they did it to keep the fans from turning on the team"
excuse me?
browns fans? you mean the group that had their beloved team taken from them, and 3 years later replaced them with absolute garbage?
you meant the group that has sold out every single game since the first one in 1999?
turn on the team? what a friggin' joke.
we may boo, we may chant for the backup, but we're always there, every sunday. i don't know if there is another fanbase as tough as ours. we are as tough as nails.
and if the organization was going to put brady quinn at quarterback to make the fans happy, they would have done it a long time ago.
typical BSPN.
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Yeah, I watched Dilfer. And I have 2 words for him.
Charlie Frye.
The guy is still bitter that he got benched, and felt the fans pushed that to happen. Sorry, but you got benched for CHARLIE FREAKING FRYE early in his rookie year, and Brady Quinn is coming in after a year and a half of watching, waiting and learning.
Then he was traded for a 7th rounder and a 12 pack of Natty Light. Which probably was an insult.
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LOL. I thought Lerner's comments were hilarious. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/panthers/story/315597.htmlEAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. There was some hard-to-miss back-and-forth vitriol between ESPN's Trent Dilfer and the Browns last week regarding Cleveland's decision to bench quarterback Derek Anderson in favor of Brady Quinn. It started with Dilfer breaking the story, saying: “Public opinion has made this decision for the Browns. This is not Derek Anderson's fault.” Later, Dilfer went on a Cleveland radio statkon and ripped the Browns, saying: “It is so sad that the organization, as dysfunctional as it is, would make this type of knee-jerk reaction and blame one guy for their faults. I say organizationally, from the top down, this is an absolute joke.” Apparently left out of Dilfer's remarks were some hard feelings he retains from his time with the Browns in 2005. He had been benched late that season in place of Charlie Frye. Dilfer also probably could have been forthcoming and noted that he and Anderson have the same agent. Still, Dilfer's comments rippled through Cleveland, leading Browns owner Randy Lerner to issue the following comment through a team spokesman: “Trent Dilfer running his mouth about a past employer doesn't merit a serious response.”
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