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BE not too long ago, I think in our bye was asked about BQ and he gushed about how when he's in the huddle you know he is in charge and that everyone respects him as a leader.
i don't remember hearing this at all. anyone remember what article this was from?
lol... I never heard this either. Wish it was in an interview. I wonder what Braylon looks like when he "gushes"... 
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Not an article...not breath taking for me to make it up or anything.
It might have even been pre-game stuff before our Monday night game with the Giants.
It was somebody talking about a conversation they had with BE earlier...must of been the Monday night crew...maybe even Corn Hoser - just something that burnt into my brain...it was said. Either way I just remember it. More I play it over in my head I keep hearing the Cornheiser guys voice.
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didn't accuse you of making it up.
i'm guessing if it was by speech, it's the post-game thing from mnf against teh giants but i don't remember him saying this. i don't think edwards would've gotten away with something that strong because we would've posted about it on these message boards. are you sure he was talking about quinn? if he did, no way mary kay, bud shaw, or bill livingston would've forgotten to put it in any of their articles, particularly shaw's quinn love-fest articles, which come out about thrice a week. lol, "thrice."
i still have the game on dvr so maybe i can check on that interview when i get home from work.
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dong...no it was just making me joggle the noggin to remember when...thinking out loud.
I'm pretty sure it was PRE-Game cause they were trying to spur on a BQ controversy on when they would play the kid. After the game nary a soul would have brought that conversation up...lol Least of all that Front runner suck up Cornhowser
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With regard to the decision. It's anyone's guess as to who made it or how. But, it smells of panic. We're losing so I've got to make it look like I'm doing something.
Although I'm not happy with the way DA has played over the last bunch of games (reaching back into last season), I feel bad for him because this winds up looking like it's all been his fault...and it's not.... I think BQ might be better in the long run....but I could be wrong....looks like we're gonna find out.
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I wouldn't think the gameplan would change a great deal. To me, it almost looked like the gameplanning was changed from last year....more in anticipation of Quinn. Seems we were seeing if DA could run a BQ type gameplan....seemed to be a lot more screens and swing passes this year.
One of DA's weaknesses that came out last year was his short game. We were seeing if he can develop that short game and become a complete QB, making our decision to go with him for the long haul easier. This offense wasn't planned for BQ, it was designed for DA. DA just didn't execute it consistently. I personally think BQ won't execute it perfectly either. Both are young and will make mistakes. Brady Quinn is only 24 years old and DA is only 25. Both will improve with time.
BTW, I think it is bad timing therefore a bad decision. The season is far from over. Well........was far from over.
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yea it's cool. i just didn't think edwards would've said something like that but we don't have proof one way or the other now. like i said, if he did, many of the plain dealer writers would've had a field day on it. let's just hope that if he said it, he's right.  the problem i have, if he did say it, is edwards tendency to go on to the next qb prematurely. kinda like when frye was down and he was talking about DA and in explaining the drops, he says "yea, it took some time to get used to DA's ball because it was zippier and i said 'ok, this is how the ball should come out'." so this goes to the other post where, if edwards indeed had said "i should've caught that ball but it wouldn't mean da doesn't throw the pick" then it shows an underlying issue in edwards' attitude. i hope that's not the case.
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Maybe I was reading a post by eo from several weeks ago, but I recall that quote, too. Braylon praised Brady and said he would do well as starter. He did not bash Anderson; it was more of a positive view of Quinn.
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well sure enough, i saw this new article later on. Quote:
Receiver Braylon Edwards took exception to the notion that perhaps Derek Anderson would still be the starter if he hadn't dropped the fourth-quarter bomb against the Ravens on Sunday.
"Yes, I wish I could've caught that pass," he said. "Should I have caught that pass? Yes. Have I thought about it? Yes, but if I catch that pass is DA still the starter? I mean, what kind of question is that?"
In general, if more guys had made plays, would Anderson still be the guy?
"I don't know if it's just making plays to help Derek," said Edwards. "I mean, if Romeo [Crennel] felt like that was the move to make, then that's the move to make. Who knows why he made the move? Who cares, to be honest. It's the move that he made and Brady's our guy."
Edwards said the Browns support Crennel's decision "to change things up, to try some kind of dynamic. We stick by DA and that's still our guy, but now we've got to stick by Brady and bring him along and try to help him on Thursday."
Asked how Anderson was playing, Edwards said, "I think he's playing okay. I don't think as a whole we're playing where we need to play to finish games or win games. We all were playing up and down."
He said Quinn isn't easily rattled. "He has a great huddle presence. I think just his natural calm and confidence will help him a lot on Thursday."
Like everyone else, Edwards didn't see it coming "but it happened, so what do I do now? Move forward." Tracy Boulian/The Plain DealerDonte Stallworth admitted disappointment that his injuries have helped to limit the offense. "It's hard watching how things have evolved this season without being able to help," he said. He said he's hoping for the same kind of effect as last year when the Browns benched Charlie Frye and won 10 games with Anderson. "He made that change last year and it was for the better," said Edwards. "We'll just go out and help Brady out and see what happens."
Receiver Donte Stallworth lamented the fact he hasn't been able to help the team because of his pulled quad muscle. He's played in three games and caught seven passes.
"Obviously it's has a bearing with me being a receiver," he said. "It's frustrating for me to not be out there, not only to help the quarterback but to help the team. It's hard watching how things have evolved this season without being able to help."
He said Quinn's confidence will help him against the Broncos.
"Confidence usually can get you over some things like inexperience," he said. "It's not all about Brady. We have to protect him and run the ball and make plays for him."
He said Quinn has great potential.
"He wasn't a first-round pick for nothing," he said. "He's got the talent and he's been in the fire and he helped Notre Dame win a lot of games. That's what he was drafted for, that's what the fans and that's what we're going to need from him."
Linebacker Willie McGinest was asked about the move being out of character for Romeo Crennel.
"There you go. Just figure out where it's coming from then," he said. "Your guess is better than mine. I can't get into those type of theories, who made the call."
When told Crennel said he made the call, McGinest said, "Well, there it is. That's what you believe, that's what you think it is, then."
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something is happening to rac and he's changing in front of us. i don't know what is causing it and i don't even know if i like it. i don't know if it's stress or outside pressures but it feels like he's taking more ownership of the team. the "we're going to beat denver, and that's what we're going to do" thing is very anti-rac but maybe that's what we need.
i think it's surprising to hear that neither chud nor scherer were on board with the decision. too bad they didn't want to stick their necks out for something they believed.
Lucky for RAC that I'd long ago stopped thinking he was a good head coach, because his comments about "we're GOING to beat Denver" are some of the STOOPIDESTERED comments I've ever heard out of any teams top coach.
Simply idiotic.
As far as Chud and Rip not being on board, well, they weren't on board with RAC choosing Frye over Anderson. Turns out RAC was wrong then too. Also, in regards to them not "sticking their necks out for something they believe in" I'm glad they didn't. It isn't their place to go on record and out-and-out challenge a decision that the head coach makes.
I've had enough of RAC. He's not the right coach for this team. From the poor choice in coaches to his poor decisions in-game to his apparent inability to control these players to his choice in words about Denver to the way he's making the QB switch........he's clearly losing control.
I thought it didn't make any sense to fire him before the year is over, but he's giving me plenty of reason to rethink that belief
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Is that the locker room was kind of surprised and shocked by the news.
Then he went on to say that Quinn isn't a guy who wows you in practice. But under the lights, on the field, he's a gamer. That he finds a way or somehow manages to make things happen.
Isn't that how they described Charlie Frye?
These are the same comments Cribbs made during training camp. I would feel much better if he changed them to say that "Quinn has been lighting it up."
I know one thing for sure. If we going into a shell while leading, the result will be the same as last week. We averaged what, two yards a carry? Why in hell would Chud run run pass with those numbers is beyond me. Escpecially whe you consider the Browns lead the league in drops. It is very hard to convert on 3rd and long. We have a QB who is not a high percentage passer on top of it. That just leads to disaster.
If the Browns want Quinn to succeed, They need to open up the offense late in the game.
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based on the last game alone RAC, Chud and Rip would not have decided to bench him .. BUT .. if they were teetering ... and see the season slipping away and came tot he conclusion the team needed a kick in the ass and this was the only way to do it .. they could have come to the conclusion I PRAY THEY DID ..
That's EXACTLY how I see this having gone down...This has been discussed for 5 games now...
I sense you're a bit worried about the "Fan" thang...Not I...Savage has made good moves for 4 years...He ain't about to stick his neck out and let the fans dictate anything...Nor Crennel...These guys ain't dumb...This was media driven and apparently it wasn't suppose to have come out till Wednesday...
That's why Crennel said 2 hours earlier there was no change and Anderson is the QB AT THIS MOMENT...
It's things like the Winslow thing and this that give those who can't stand Crennel all the ammo they need to pile on...
I believe this was a JOINT decision and all agreed...
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It's so funny to me to read the other threads. Threads with this caged optimism.....all the while with front office cynicism. It's rediculous. Brady Quinn, for all that I've seen at Dublin Coffman (when I lived in Columbus), and all that I've seen at Notre Dame and on the Browns. Man this guy has what it takes! He is an accurate passer. I can't wait to see the positive reaction to the passing game! He's an athlete! The kind of guy that when he rolls out can do something on the move! Not a guy that has platapus feet. Not a guy with diving fins trying to scramble. This is a guy, athletically, is in the mold of Roethlisberger. Quinn is 6'3" 235. Roethlisberger 6'5" 240. Quinn is far quicker. Roethlisberger is built like a redwood. Remember watching Elway. And when on 3rd and 8 in the 4th quarter...when all the receivers were covered....Elway would somehow get 10 yards on a scramble...and you'd basically have a coronary! Well welcome to the new Cleveland Browns football. Elway was special. With a rocket launcher for an arm. Quinn, while not a guy with a cannon for an arm, still has an arm in the Top 20 in the NFL. I'm ecstatic with the move! THRILLED! Cleveland Browns fans have been beaten down. To a pulp. With bad QB play. Change is happening. NOW! Quinn will be a great NFL QB. I've seen it in the small things. Nuance. He's going to be very good. He can make every throw. He can do everything adequately. But there are things he can do very well. People will see a new age of Browns football. And it lasts the rest of the season! Who else is with me! 
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I'm witcha bro............It's Quinn time.........For GOOD...........
8 games of experience and an entire off season as the UNDISPUTED #1 will do him good...
Add a few pieces for 2009 and we're ready to roll...LEGITIMATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There are many people here that are scared. Scared that the promise won't come through.
I'm not. I've seen plenty. This is a quality NFL QB. A guy that can certainly guide this very explosive offensive team.
2008...yes we could hit the lotto and get in to the playoffs at 9-7 with so many teams ahead of us...remember that's if we play 6-2 ball with Quinn which is possible.
2009...that's finally the time...when we take the AFC North for the next 5 years.
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Well, I'm starting him over Eli Manning on my fantasy team, so he better be good.
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I'm excited, obviously. We need a spark of some sort, and maybe this will provide it. I'm a Browns fan and I will support whoever is playing QB. If I can support Holcomb, I can support just about anyone. Quote:
Brady Quinn, for all that I've seen at Dublin Coffman (when I lived in Columbus), and all that I've seen at Notre Dame and on the Browns. Man this guy has what it takes!
Last I checked Olentangy Liberty, Navy and Central Michigan aren't on our schedule. Let's see how he does against the big boys. Not saying he doesn't have what it takes, just that we need to wait and see.
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I'm not thrilled that DA's not shown incredible improvement.
I'm not thrilled that BQ has become #1 in the manner that he has.
I'm not thrilled there seems to be division in the decision to do this.
I am thrilled that maybe, finally we'll see if a first round pick from two years ago might actually reap benefits for the organization and we can evaluate the QB position and possibly put it to rest for a period.
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I'm not thrilled there seems to be division in the decision to do this.
Sometimes...And this is one of those times...U MUST take a man at face value and not look for conspiracy theories...Especially from the media...
Crennel said he factored in several things.
“I felt like we needed a different dynamic on offense,” he said. “I factored in our record, offensive ranking and production. I wanted to talk to the players before I talked to anyone else. I talked to (Derek) Anderson first. He was disappointed, but he’s a professional and he will handle it.
“It’s my decision,” he said. “I informed the rest of the organization the decision I was making and I have the backing of the organization. We’ve been talking about this for a while. I try to be thorough in my decision.
“The play was inconsistent and we’ve been an inconsistent football team,” he said. “The supporting cast plays a part in that.”
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I'm pretty pumped to see a change in the team. I loved where we were going last year and hope we can get back with this spark.
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I believe it will be a much shorter snapping-in period than it was with Anderson. But I don't believe it will be quick enough to turn the corner on this season -- I hope it does, but the math is just not there. The Browns cannot afford a single loss unless some really bad things happen to BOTH Pittsburgh and Baltimore. That is too much to expect from Quinn at this juncture of a career that hasn't even started yet.
The good thing is, the kid has the tools to have a chance to succeed. With Derek, we were like a NASCAR pit stop when the jack doesn't come down.
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I'd be thrilled if the parking was free and the beer was $2.50.....  But I'm happy this has finally happened. Frankly, it should have happened at half time of the Cincy game or earlier. I hope Brady is everything Diam thinks he is.
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GMAB man...we are all talking about the unknown. Something U never have a problem with when you spew out your agendas.. This is how you see it.. "Generally, I don't think they have my telephone number," he said. "I haven't been fielding calls from the fans. I made the decision, what I think is best and what I think needs to be done." Guess he doesn't have my number either huh? Cut the crap and talk straight up for a change. I always am a straight shooter but the mess you let funnel out of your mouth at times is funny.. We had Botch who was a liar..the players said it..they felt uneasy around him because he'd lie through his teeth.. I haven't read one comment where any player though Rac was a liar..he doesn't have to divulge every single thing to appease anyone.. But the thing is you , and I'm only speaking of you ..have to gone to ridiculous lengths to discredit the guy .. And why don't you stop being so narrow minded ..read some of the srticles which might shed some light on the situation instead of jumping to conclusions like you always do. Quote:
Crennel said he wanted to discuss the quarterback situation with his coaches before making a final decision. The source said that offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski "was disappointed" in Crennel's thinking, but neither he nor Rip Scherer, quarterbacks coach, attempted to dissuade Crennel.
Crennel said he wanted to discuss the quarterback situation with his coaches before making a final decision. The source said that offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski "was disappointed" in Crennel's thinking, but neither he nor Rip Scherer, quarterbacks coach, attempted to dissuade Crennel.
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Fargo... "The Browns struggles have more to do with their defense than their offense. In Cleveland’s three wins, the defense has allowed an average of 14 points per game. In Cleveland’s five losses, the defense has allowed an average of 24 points per game."
Not quite...just a guy who hasn't watched our games and going through the numbers and think he's made a revelation about our team.
5 losses average 24 points. But how of those points came from DA's INT's - I remember in Ravens game one at least 14 points not really at the fault of the Defense maybe more. And Ravens game 2 there was the pick 6 to make it 37.
Also we had them held to 13 points till we went into the prevent OFFENSE...20 points, 27 points as the TOP was way into the Ravens court. The Prevent offense was stupid cause they acted (CHUD/RAC) like we were the team with a big TOP and that the Ravens D would tire...Our D has kept us in the game.
Dallas forget about it. We were a mess that game.
Steelers 10-6 D didn't lose it. Ravens 28...DA had 4 INTs??? how many points did that play into it.
Redskins...forgot the score but I remember the D played well. And now this one.
Statistically our Defense looks bad - that is cause we get tired and start giving up big chunks of ground but we keep them to FGs in a lot of occasions. I'm not saying our D is awesome...far from it. But not the culprit...Its been the O in our losses. Pure and simple OUR OFFENSE!
As I stated in my previous thread... in 4 of our 5 losses, our Offense has scored 10 (Dallas), 6 (Pittsburgh), 10 (Baltimore 1), and 11 (Redskins) points... and he wants to blame our defense..
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http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2008/11/05/sports/doc491134c47cbdf525509716.txtWill someone please step up?Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:09 AM EST By Jim Ingraham JIngraham@News-Herald.comThe owner would rather not be photographed, interviewed or quoted. The general manager would rather be scouting. The coach would rather be everyone’s favorite uncle. Is it any wonder the Browns have jumped the track? Again? That old saying “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen” doesn’t apply to Browns officials, because none of them are ever in the kitchen. Which is part of the problem. A big part of the problem. The Browns need somebody to get into that kitchen and rattle those pots and pans. All you need to know about the accountability problem involving this team is when the Kellen Winslow Jr. snit hit the fan, the team issued a news release that included a quote that was attributed to nobody. And you thought Braylon Edwards was the only one in the organization who routinely drops the ball? So this week the Browns decided to change quarterbacks. We know this because Trent Dilfer told us. That’s right. The ex-Browns failed quarterback (no ax to grind here!), who just happens to have the same agent as the deposed Derek Anderson — hmmm — broke the story on ESPN late Monday afternoon. Why didn’t the Browns themselves make the announcement? Because the owner would rather not be photographed, interviewed or quoted, the general manager would rather be scouting and the coach would rather be everyone’s favorite uncle. So the quarterback change, which, aside from a head coaching change is the biggest story in terms of news-worthiness for any NFL team, was handled the way the Browns handled Winslowgate, and most of their other dirty laundry — without a team official in sight. Eventually — as Monday afternoon turned into Monday evening — the team issued another trusty press release that basically said, “Yeah, we changed quarterbacks.” That was it. No formal announcement. No news conference at which the general manager and coach explained the reasons behind, justification for and long-term implications of such a move. Just a terse confirmation on club stationary. Woof-woof! Is this any way to treat a Dawg Pound? The quarterback change was finally addressed publicly on Tuesday, a day late and a dollar short again. Who knows? If it wasn’t for that big blabbermouth Dilfer — finally he contributes something to the Browns! — we might not have known of the change until Brady Quinn trotted out onto the field for the first possession Thursday night. The reason all this matters is it’s symptomatic of an organization seemingly intimidated by its own shadow. There doesn’t appear to be a strong personality, a face of the organization, a leader, anywhere near the top of the organizational flow chart. And that can’t help but have an effect on the kind of product it is selling. You know you’re in trouble when the two biggest egos on the team belong to the two leading receivers. I’m not a big fan of egos, but certain jobs require it. Carmen Policy at least had enough of a love affair with his voice and image that he never missed a chance to be the boss and get in front of the cameras in good and — more importantly — bad times. By contrast, at the very least, and as he should have also done in the Winslow case, General Manager Phil Savage should have been out in front of the quarterback story, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with his head coach in announcing the decision on the day the decision was made. Instead, we got Trent Dilfer. One gets the impression Savage is more interested in 40-yard dash times, vertical leaps and bench press figures. This just in: There’s more to being an NFL general manager than holding a stopwatch. Being a general manager means being that team. Especially when things are going bad. Somebody needs to be accountable, in a timely fashion, for everything that happens to that team, both good and bad. If you’re interested in being the boss only in good times, go get a job at Disneyland. It would be different if the Browns had an egomaniacal owner such as Jerry Jones. Jones may be the Michael Jordan of “Me,” but at least you know who’s in charge. It would be different if the Browns’ coach was Bill Belichick. There’s never any doubt who’s in charge of his team. And it would be different if the Browns’ general manager was Bill Parcells, who, legend has it, coined the phrase “I’m in charge. You’re an idiot.” But none of that is the case. The Browns are being run — or so we’re told — by three quiet, unassuming, well-meaning gentlemen, who, until we get evidence to the contrary, seem to be waiting around for the real boss to show up. Meanwhile, it’s 110 degrees in the kitchen, and there’s nobody on Lou Groza Boulevard who wants to go in there.
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Eventually — as Monday afternoon turned into Monday evening — the team issued another trusty press release that basically said, “Yeah, we changed quarterbacks.”
That was it.
No formal announcement. No news conference at which the general manager and coach explained the reasons behind, justification for and long-term implications of such a move.
Where is it stated that they HAD to announce it to everyone?
we might not have known of the change until Brady Quinn trotted out onto the field for the first possession Thursday night. You didn't need to know anything till then. I woulda kept it hidden till Thursday..the media isn't owed that..they can rot..and so can Dillpickle who is ticked that Frye got the nod over him..because he sucks also.
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"The Browns need somebody to get into that kitchen and rattle those pots and pans."
I used to tell my ex-wife that all the time.One day she went up side my head with a pot,maybe it was a pan I'm not sure,I've been rattled ever since. Ad is right.This should have never come out.Say nothing,and then trot BQ out there Thur.night.That's the Belichek way. I don't neccessarily agree with him,but this good is a pretty good writer.Where is this News-Herald from?
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IF Quinn pans out...
IF!
I think he will be in the mold of Peyton Manning...Peyton is not a natural thrower...but has robot, perfect mechanics. Peyton is a ridiculous worker, and studies the game more than any QB ever has. Peyton isnt a rocket armed QB...but he makes up for that with awesome timing.
I think Quinn looks alot like Peyton when you watch him...very good mechanics...almost robotic. Quinn is praised for his work ethic...and leadership.
I dont think Quinn will be anything thing like Big Ben or Elway...who are rocket armed QB's that use their legs for big plays. Yes Quinn is mobile...but if you watch his game...he doesnt play like Farve, Ben, or Elway...hes a quick read QB, gets rid of the ball and will take the short throws if needed.
Thats how I see him, IF, he pans out.
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The ex-Browns failed quarterback (no ax to grind here!), who just happens to have the same agent as the deposed Derek Anderson — hmmm — broke the story on ESPN late Monday afternoon.
Why didn’t the Browns themselves make the announcement?
Just my guess but the Browns wanted to tell the players first, which I agree with... then DA talks to his agent, his agent talks to Dilfer (or perhaps DA called Dilfer directly).. and all of that happened before an official announcement could be made...
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If it wasn’t for that big blabbermouth Dilfer — finally he contributes something to the Browns! — we might not have known of the change until Brady Quinn trotted out onto the field for the first possession Thursday night.
I'm not sure why that is a problem...
With all that said, I do agree with the premise of the article that somebody in the organization needs to sprout a pair and start telling it like it is a little bit....
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Taking the short throw and converting them to first downs,.... Holding on to the ball,.... Managing the clock,.... Keeping the defense rested,.... The things we haven't seen yet,.... 
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I am. I'm not sure the timing is good, but I'll take a change to a potentially better player at this point. I'm also much more excited about attending this Thursdays game. The stadium should be electric! I'm assuming they will introduce the offensive unit. I think that is a big part of why Romeo (and I do think it was his decision, no conspiracy) went with him this week - let him get his first start at home with a group of fans who will be going nuts to see him play. Then he has 11 days until the next game to prepare and correct problems from his first start. Can't wait for tomorrow! 
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I picked up Quinn in my fantasy league this AM...it was funny though..there were NO other bidders....I see a lotta optimism on the boards..yet...I think back to his time at Notre Dame and just before the draft he was selected in...the knock at that time was he never won a game that was significant. :shrugs: I guess time will tell.
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There are many people here that are scared. Scared that the promise won't come through.
I'm not. I've seen plenty. This is a quality NFL QB. A guy that can certainly guide this very explosive offensive team.
Just curious - does a 'quality NFL QB' have to play in any regular season games at all to be called quality?
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Who else is thrilled!
Not me. I am excited though. He has now been waiting in the wings for a year and a half and now he gets a chance to prove he was worthy of the pick.
I am waiting for the enevitable attacks on him when he has a couple of bad games. I think he deserves a chance to grow into the job but I'm afraid to many fans won't allow it. 
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Not being a Notre Dame fan, but those games were all against much better team talent than the Irish had,..and they did have the USC game stolen away by less than adequate officiating.
I saw (and once even scouted) Brady at Coffman. He's no choker. Quinn will be fine,...even if he falls flat on his face, we needed the change. We needed to find out. We need to get on with whatever the plan is that we here can only speculate about,....
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Quinn had no OL at ND...none....since hes left...Weis has looked stupid and the Irish are terrible. Not saying Quinn is God...but he was ND's team when he was there.
He'll have better talent here than in school...he should be fine.
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:laughs:um please point out to me where I called him a choker. The knock was suppled by the draft pundits at the time..I dropped a future HOF'er in Farve to pick up Quinn...granted Brett's been playing like crap so picking up Quinn wasn't that much of a gamble...I hope he convinces me and the rest of the Quinn pimps on the board(Diam). But being a Browns fan I am also bracing myself for a letdown.
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Excuse me, did I say that you said he was a "chocker,...?" 
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:laughs:I saw it too and edited it smartguy...if that's all you can say about someones post well...everyone makes a typo at time pal....even omnipotent you.
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I'm excited for Quinn's first start. But thrilled is a little too much. I just hope he has a good first game and displays more consistency than his predecessor.
And the next head coach is ......
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