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Rapper Kanye West has been arrested and released without charge after an "incident" at a Newcastle nightclub.

A Northumbria Police spokeswoman said a 31-year-old man was "arrested on suspicion of assault following an incident at a city centre club".

"No further police action is being taken," she added.

Freelance photographer Terry Blackburn told BBC 1Xtra he had called police claiming the star, currently on tour, pushed his camera into his face.

A spokesperson for the hotel confirmed that a man had been arrested there on Friday morning in relation to an incident which took place away from its premises.

The rapper is currently travelling round the UK with his Glow In The Dark Tour, which continues in Sheffield later.

'Voice of a generation'

In September, West was arrested on suspicion of vandalism after a row with a photographer at Los Angeles International Airport.

The incident happened before he cleared security screening before boarding a flight to Hawaii.

Earlier this week, the rapper, who featured on Estelle's number one single American Boy earlier this year, told the Associated Press news agency he was the "voice of a generation" and compared himself to basketball hero Michael Jordan.

"I realise that my place and position in history is that I will go down as the voice of this generation, of this decade, I will be the loudest voice," he said.

"It's me settling into that position of just really accepting that it's one thing to say you want to do it and it's another thing to really end up being like Michael Jordan."

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"I realise that my place and position in history is that I will go down as the voice of this generation, of this decade, I will be the loudest voice," he said.



And as we all know, being the loudest, doesn't make your right.

But it's always good when a rapper pauses to evaluate his own place in history.


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"I realise that my place and position in history is that I will go down as the voice of this generation, of this decade, I will be the loudest voice," he said.



And as we all know, being the loudest, doesn't make your right.

But it's always good when a rapper pauses to evaluate his own place in history.




The neatest thing is how humble they are............

I want Mr. West to speak for me about as much as a restaraunt owner would've wanted Jeffrey Dahmer to endorse his/her restaraunt.

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Rapper Kanye West has been arrested and released without charge after an "incident" at a Newcastle nightclub.

A Northumbria Police spokeswoman said a 31-year-old man was "arrested on suspicion of assault following an incident at a city centre club".

"No further police action is being taken," she added.




So no charges were filed and nobody is "in trouble".

Thus, the title of your post is meaningless and exagerated at best.

But please, carry on................

I'm quitesure you will. Even without any real grounds on which to do so.



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And eerily similar to you.



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I don't walk around pretending I'm an angel. I freely admit what I do and how I do it. Nobody is buying the Saint game.

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Outstanding Captain Obvious you pointed out that the title of my rapper thread is exaggerated, just like the rest of them have been through the time I have posted them. What's next you going to tell me the earth is round?

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No silly, you already know that.



But usually in these threads, somebody actually DID get arrested, murdered etc.......

So as your rap threads go, I just thought it lacked a little "meat" like most of them do.


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No, I'm pretty sure he isn't dumb enough to think that.

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I don't walk around pretending I'm an angel. I freely admit what I do and how I do it. Nobody is buying the Saint game.




I'm not trying to sell myself as a Saint. I never have.

I'm a damned REDNECK!

And have never tried to portary myself otherwise.

Only certain others try to play THAT card.



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Hijack.

When did "redneck" become a badge of honour? I associate this term with backwoods, close minded, intolerant people.... Pit, although strong in his beliefs (some of which i agree with, some I don't) doesn't strike me as any of these things.....

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Ah see, that's the confusing part about the term Redneck.

Many associate it with the very things you have mentioned. But in reality, it has very little if anything to do with the context in which many take it as.
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Red Necks and Red Bandanas: Appalachian Coal Miners and the Coloring of Union Identity, 1912-1936

"They shot one of those Bolsheviks up in Knox County this morning, Harry Sims his name was. . . . That deputy knew his business. He didn't give the redneck a chance to talk, he just plugged him in the stomach. We need some shooting like that down here in Pineville." So Malcolm Cowley, writing in The New Republic in 1932, recounted a local coal operator's response to the murder of a nineteen-year-old Young Communist League union organizer in eastern Kentucky (1932:70). The contempt and ruthlessness in this comment will scarcely surprise readers familiar with the history of the violent, bloody suppression of the American labor movement, but seeing the pejorative terms Bolshevik and redneck used interchangeably may. For more than a century, the epithet redneck has chiefly denigrated rural, poor white southerners, especially those who hold conservative, reactionary or racist points of view (Huber 1995:146-48). During the 1920s and 1930s, however, another one of its definitions in the northern and central Appalachian coalfields was "a Communist." And during the first four decades of the twentieth century, redneck also referred more broadly to a miner who was a member of a labor union, particularly to one who was on strike. This last, now-obsolete meaning of the word provides insight into how local leaders and organizers of the United Mine Workers used language and symbols to foster union solidarity among racially and ethnically divided miners.

The following essay explores how the United Mine Workers of America (UMW) and rival miners' unions appropriated both the term redneck and its literal manifestation, the red bandana, in order to build multiracial unions of white, black, and immigrant miners in the strike-ridden coalfields of northern and central Appalachia between 1912 and 1936. The origin of redneck to mean "a union man" or "a striker" remain uncertain, but according to linguist David W. Maurer, the former definition of the word probably dates at least to the second decade of the twentieth century, if not earlier (1936:19). The use of redneck to designate "a union member" was especially popular during the 1920s and 1930s in the coal-producing regions of southern West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, and western Pennsylvania, where the word came to be specifically applied to a miner who belonged to a labor union. For example, the term can be found throughout McAllister Coleman and Stephen Raushenbush's 1936 socialist proletarian novel, Red Neck, which recounts the story of a charismatic union leader named Dave Houston and an unsuccessful strike by his fellow union miners in the fictional coalfield town of Laurel, Pennsylvania (1936:151, 155, 246, 304). The word's varied usage can be seen in the following two examples from the book. "I'm not much to be proud of," Houston admits to his admiring girlfriend Madge in one scene. "I'm just a red necked miner like the rest" (ibid. 155). In another scene, a police captain curses Houston as a "God-damned red neck" during a fruitless jailhouse interrogation, before savagely beating him with a sawed-off chair-leg (ibid. 304).

As far as can be determined, the earliest printed uses of the word red-neck in a coal-mining context date from the 1912-1913 Paint and Cabin Creeks strike in southern West Virginia and from the 1913-1914 Trinidad District strike in southern Colorado.1 But it remains unclear whether the term originated in the Appalachian coalfields, the Rocky Mountain coalfields, or elsewhere. UMW national organizers quite possibly transported redneck from one section of the country to the other. Then again, its popularizers may have been agents of the Baldwin-Feltz Detective Agency, an industrial espionage and mine security company headquartered in Bluefield, West Virginia, who worked as company guards and spies in both the West Virginia and the Colorado strikes. What is relatively certain, however, is that it originated as an epithet. Apparently, coal operators, company guards, non-union miners, and strikebreakers were among the first to use the redneck in a labor context when they derided union miners with the slur. According to industrial folklorist George Korson, non-union miners derisively called strikers "rednecks" in the Appalachian coalfields, while slurring them as "sweaters" in Oklahoma and the southwestern coalfields (1933:327). It is possible that redneck emerged in strike-ridden coalfields to mean "union miner" independently of its pejorative usage in Mississippi and other states of the Deep South as a synonym for cracker, hoosier, peckerwood, and poor white trash.

Clearly, the best explanation of redneck to mean "union man" is that the word refers to the red handkerchiefs that striking union coal miners in both southern West Virginia and southern Colorado often wore around their necks or arms as a part of their informal uniform.2 The June 1914 issue of The Masses, for example, contains a Catholic priest's account of the labor unrest in the Trinidad District of southern Colorado: "For eight days it was a reign of terror. Armed miners swarmed into the city like soldiers of a revolution. They tramped the streets with rifles, and red handkerchiefs around their necks, singing their war songs" (Eastman 1914:5). Thus, the epithet redneck, in a coal-mining context, usually referred to the red bandanas that striking miners sometimes wore knotted about their necks and not to sunburned necks, the conspicuous physical feature for which poor white southerners, who worked long days in the fields, were so infamously named (Roebuck and Hickson 1982:3). It cannot be entirely discounted, however, that redneck, as a term of contempt for organized coal miners and gun thugs, derided both their union membership and their poor whiteness, since so many West Virginia and Kentucky miners were former or part-time farmers from the surrounding rural districts. Thus, in the mouths of coal operators, the epithet could have been doubly expressive of contempt.

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There's 10+ pages to this but I feel this lays the groundwork enough to establish my view on the topic.

You see, the original term Redneck, described people who stood up for themselves. Who stood firmly in their beliefs and demanded fairness for themselves and their family.

They believed if a man or woman worked hard, was an honest Patriotic American, they should be able to make a descent living in this country. They united in that common cause.

They risked their own life to achieve what they believed in.

While the term Redneck brings about the connotations that you suggest by many, in reality, nothing could be further from the truth.

So now you know where the term Redneck comes from. And what it really means. So I consider myself more of a "traditional Redneck" than the association that comes with the term today.

My family is from the south. My great grandparents were sharecroppers. That's about as poor as one can get. But many of them moved north, joined unions and prospered in future generations. And I am proud of that herritage humble as it may be.

So I never run nor hide from it. And consider myself a Redneck from a Redneck Herritage.

The term has been so twisted over time that I felt it needed explaining. And what that term means varies from person to person. And now you know what it means to me..........



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When did "redneck" become a badge of honour? I associate this term with backwoods, close minded, intolerant people.... Pit, although strong in his beliefs (some of which i agree with, some I don't) doesn't strike me as any of these things.....




That's because you wanna be limey's don't understand us Americans and our sophisticated culture....

"Red Neck" is more associated with southern rural life. I associate the term with the way Jeff Foxworty lampoons the culture.



People like Pit don't fully resemble this stereotype but there is just enough truth in it to make it funny. I guess he likes to laugh at himself.


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Ok. I responded to Canada and was completely wrong. I'll let my post stand because of my interpertation is different then his and yours.


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Aw heck, that's okay P.

And yes, I do like to laugh at myself from time to time. If not, I think I would take life far too seriously, far too often.

And Foxworthy is funny as hell!

Even though Larry The Cable Guy reminds me more of some of my southern relatives.



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This is irony at its finest.


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I realize these guys need to keep their cool, but if I was in the situation like they are with the paparazzi, I would not be able to help myself. I would have shoved my share of cameras back in the harrassers face also. I think some of these photographers try to bait these celebs into doing something so they can sue them or sell the footage to TMZ.

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Just to clarify, this thread was more joke then seriousness, so I really don't care about the issue since I was goofing around.

I heard of him but have no clue what he has done in the music business, I have pretty much just heard the name, after that I am clueless about him and how he acts in life.

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I dont know a whole lot about him either but from what I have seen he is not the typical "gangsta" rapper. He has said some controversial things , but I guess that would matter only to anybody who gives a damn what he has to say. I am pretty sure Kanye is the one who right after Katrina said on the MTV Music Awards that George Bush hates black people, or something like that.

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I associate this term with ....



You can associate it with whatever you want and my guess is there are as many definitions of the term as there are people out there...

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backwoods, close minded, intolerant people



I won't get into Pit's etymology lesson because I had no idea where the term originated, I only know what it means to me... and your definition isn't mine.. and I consider myself in large part, a redneck.


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