I think it proves the exact opposite of some of the fear mongering and what they seemed to indicate by it.
Muslim extremism hates the west. Not hates the GOP and loves the Dems. Obama is not going to be weak on terror or Al Queda and they know that. He is NOT a Muslim.
He wants to ramp up the war and seek out Al Queda in Afghanastan which is their real stronghold and base of operations. And he's even willing to make strikes within Pakistan if no other alternative can be found.
And the bad guys don't like that!
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Obama is very popular in the Middle East right now, among citizens who aren't connected to terrorist organizations. So long as he remains in favor over there, our fight with Al Qaida continues AND they lose recruits.
Seems a bit wimpy and desperate, if you ask me.
By the way... does anyone think that Obama hasn't heard worse insults from his own fellow citizens?
You must have missed my sarcasm............I never once felt that people that hated us would all of a sudden like us if Obama were elected, but many on this board seemed to feel that way.
Obama gets elected, and now we have our enemies calling him a house negro? Calling my pres. elect a house negro? That kind of ticks me off.
I guess it makes me feel the same way as when people call our current president "the dumbest" ever. Things like that tick me off.
Quote: I wonder how much of this rhetoric stems from Obama saying on 60 Minutes Sunday that Bin Laden is a priority.. dead or alive (paraphrasing)
Dead or alive....those are Bush's words.
Here is what Obama said...
Kroft: Where does capturing or killing Osama bin Laden fall?
Obama: I think it is a top priority for us to stamp out al Qaeda once and for all. And I think capturing or killing bin Laden is a critical aspect of stamping out al Qaeda. He is not just a symbol, he’s also the operational leader of an organization that is planning attacks against US targets.
Daman...I believe Bin Laden or his sidekick said they wanted Obama to win the election. They got their wish but now it seems they don't like it...the day they meet 72 virgins is coming...
Okay, so damanshot said "dead or alive (paraphrasing)" and you say Obama said "capturing or killing" him.
The difference is?????
I'm glad you feel that Obama will be able to get osama. I'm glad you threw in the "he's going to meet his 72 virgins soon" comment. What makes you think that? Cause Obama is not Bush? Is that it?
You think we have not been looking for osama? All of a sudden all Obama has to do is say "get him"????
IMHO...It was a personal insult to try and sway policy. Its like a guy egging another one when saying, "A REAL man would do <insert act here>" when trying to get a guy to do something. The exception in this case is it got more personal and is more insulting.
archie...Get one thing straight...I don't care who kills the sob, Bush, Obama or someone else.
Word is, Bush has been pushing hard to get Bin laden before Bush leaves office...I say great, get him, "dead" but not alive....a live Bin laden just creates more problems, IMO.
My hope is, some special forces get opportunity to settle the score with Bin laden and Zawahiri and their bodies just disappear, leaving all of al qaeda to wondering, what happened to their leader.
Quote: Obama gets elected, and now we have our enemies calling him a house negro? Calling my pres. elect a house negro? That kind of ticks me off.
I guess it makes me feel the same way as when people call our current president "the dumbest" ever. Things like that tick me off.
That is refreshing. It is good to see an american....there are so few people living in america now. Most people live in some place called Republica or Demicratica. I can't find those places on the map, but it's all I hear....Republicans and Democrats. Just good to hear an american. Thank you.
Quote: Obama: I think it is a top priority for us to stamp out al Qaeda once and for all. And I think capturing or killing bin Laden is a critical aspect of stamping out al Qaeda
Ok,, I guess Capturing or Killing Bin Laden doesn't mean dead or alive...
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Quote: Obama gets elected, and now we have our enemies calling him a house negro? Calling my pres. elect a house negro? That kind of ticks me off.
I guess it makes me feel the same way as when people call our current president "the dumbest" ever. Things like that tick me off.
That is refreshing. It is good to see an american....there are so few people living in america now. Most people live in some place called Republica or Demicratica. I can't find those places on the map, but it's all I hear....Republicans and Democrats. Just good to hear an american. Thank you.
I never voted for George Bush and it angered me when so many people in this country were calling him every name in the book. I disagreed with MANY things Bush did over the years and made my thoughts known on it, I didn't have to stoop to the level of those who lowered themselves to behaving in that manner.
I'll be the same way with Obama. I may vehemently disagree with the things he does and I will be vocal about them, however, I won't call him names or attack him in a manner like we've seen with many of the Bush bashers....and those very same people will be mortified when other people act toward Obama just as they've acted toward Bush.
You hate everyone and think the entire world is stupid, I don't guess it really matters what you might think about anyone at this point, it always the same.
Quote: I guess it makes me feel the same way as when people call our current president "the dumbest" ever. Things like that tick me off.
I never understood this protection due to faux-patriotism.
Clinton was a philanderer...I'm supposed to pretend he's not because he's president?
Bush isn't a very intelligent guy...again, I'm supposed to pretend otherwise? Why?
Difference is common courtesy, and mature behavior. Making up silly names just makes them look like immature fools. If they can't state their case without resolving to childish behavior, how do they expect anyone to take them seriously?
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
Quote: You must have missed my sarcasm............I never once felt that people that hated us would all of a sudden like us if Obama were elected, but many on this board seemed to feel that way.
And that was not my intent in my response. It really wasn't aimed towards you specificly. But more towards those who I feel were rather naive IMO as you suggest above about that. Sorry, I should have made that clearer.
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Obama gets elected, and now we have our enemies calling him a house negro? Calling my pres. elect a house negro? That kind of ticks me off.
I can see how that would.
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I guess it makes me feel the same way as when people call our current president "the dumbest" ever. Things like that tick me off.
Well, once a president has a body of work to base an opinion of his performance on, at that point I can see how people can and do draw opinions of their performance. But until then, I don't think it's fair to pre-judge what their performance will be.
IMO- The entire capitalist system is based on performance and results. That's if one feels that "pure capitalism alone" should dictate our system. And I do feel it's unrealistic to believe that a sitting president would be excluded from such a yardstick under such a system of government.
JMHO
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Quote: You hate everyone and think the entire world is stupid
I most certainly don't.
But we happen to spend a lot of time in political discussion forums...and in that respect, yes, I hate everyone and find most of it very stupid.
Both parties stand for nothing but to bolster the corrupt and illogical machine that is our federal government, and the people continue to vote them in, bickering amongst each other about "palling around with terrorists" and Neiman-Marcus bills.
In that respect...I've lost all faith.
But outside of politics and government...I don't feel that way at all. I imagine George W. Bush and I could have all sorts of fun on the town.
Quote: I guess it makes me feel the same way as when people call our current president "the dumbest" ever. Things like that tick me off.
I never understood this protection due to faux-patriotism.
Fake patriotism? Dude, get over yourself. You conveniently left out how I am equally offended at someone (and probably soon to be some huge group of people) calling Obama names as well.
President of the United States of America. The title demands respect. You don't give it, and that's fine. Don't expect to receive it either.
Your stance on most anything is getting old as far as I'm concerned. You seem to thrive on believing you are better than others. You slam slam slam, seldom offering any positive thoughts whatsoever, other than an insinuation of "I am so open minded and above all discussions, listen to me".
And you work in the t.v business? Writing? If so, I can see why I don't watch much t.v., and what I do watch is sports, or history.
Not that it matters to you, but its very tough for me to respect a person that refuses to respect others and tries to act more intelligent than others...........slamming politics, the President, religion...........I'm sure the list goes on.
Quote: President of the United States of America. The title demands respect.
So if we elected a seal that tossed balls into buckets for foreign policy decisions, you'd tell me Slippy demands our respect?
Quote: And you work in the t.v business?
I've been out of that shark tank for years.
Quote: I don't watch much t.v., and what I do watch is sports, or history.
Same here...I like 3 or 4 shows that I watch online.
I don't consider myself above a lot of what I complain about...but why is it such a problem for me to say 'I don't like any of the options in front of me'? No matter who gets elected, the rich are going to get richer on shady deals that the average guy takes the brunt for. I don't like the DemocraticParty, or the Republicans...and I think our system is broken...I don't pretend I have the answers...but it's not with any of this.
The people need to wake up and realize that this government is under our control.
Quote: President of the United States of America. The title demands respect.
So if we elected a seal that tossed balls into buckets for foreign policy decisions, you'd tell me Slippy demands our respect?
Let me know when tha happens, okay?
Until then, your opinions are just malarkey to me. I don't know that I have ever come across a more negative person than you. But, if it works for you, fine.
Oh, I should add: it's interesting to see people giving Obama respect, whether they agree with his positions or not. What seems ironic, though, is the people giving Obama respect are the same people that were giving Bush respect.
Most of those that were slamming Bush are now saying "hey, respect Obama"................other than you. You slam and slam and slam - no respect for anything. I'm glad I'm not as "enlightened" as you.
Well Arch, I can't speak for anyone but myself. I made a post the morning of the election called "Can We All Take A Deep Breath".
And I offered and asked of others that no matter who won, could we all just give whoever won a chance to do some things and see how it would go before lambasting them.
I've held a lot of respect for John McCain in many respects for quite some time. Even though I do not share some of the same views as he does.
As a president begins to go through his term, at that point I feel everyone has the right to speak out about it. To draw opinions about them as well as their policies. We are actually garunteed the right to express our opinions.
But as I said earlier, to pre-judge someone before they actually do anything in the offical capacity as our president I would find quite pre-mature.
JMHO
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Quote: Are there any progressive Muslim leaders? I'm not saying that in spite, I'm just honestly wondering.
Why do people constantly associate the actions of al Qaeda with the religion of Islam? You dont associate being Christian with the KKK. So why do people constantly do that with Muslims. Im sure there plenty of good leaders who happen to be Muslim. Since when does religion have to do with being a good leader? al Qaeda's actions dont represent an entire people just one hateful extremist group.
Quote: I wonder how much of this rhetoric stems from Obama saying on 60 Minutes Sunday that Bin Laden is a priority.. dead or alive (paraphrasing)
Dead or alive....those are Bush's words.
Here is what Obama said...
Kroft: Where does capturing or killing Osama bin Laden fall?
Obama: I think it is a top priority for us to stamp out al Qaeda once and for all. And I think capturing or killing bin Laden is a critical aspect of stamping out al Qaeda. He is not just a symbol, he’s also the operational leader of an organization that is planning attacks against US targets.
Daman...I believe Bin Laden or his sidekick said they wanted Obama to win the election. They got their wish but now it seems they don't like it...the day they meet 72 virgins is coming...
I believe if this is true it's because they thought a change in party in the White House would reduce Washington's stance of continuing to fight. And they were wrong,,thankfully.
BTW, when was the last time there was anything released from OBL? All you ever hear is messages released from this clown.
Our honor defend, we will fight to the end, for OHIO! GO BUCKS!
Quote: I wonder how much of this rhetoric stems from Obama saying on 60 Minutes Sunday that Bin Laden is a priority..
Yeah that's it....they were about ready to say that Al Qaeda liked Obama and would cease all attacks before the 60 minutes interview
Do you really believe someone on here could actually think this? I think Daman is way off base but he is definately not saying what you are implying. The way I read it is that Al Queda shot back after Obama said something about them. Doesn't make much sense to me but that is far from what you seem to think he is implying.
Quote: Are there any progressive Muslim leaders? I'm not saying that in spite, I'm just honestly wondering.
Why do people constantly associate the actions of al Qaeda with the religion of Islam? You dont associate being Christian with the KKK. So why do people constantly do that with Muslims. Im sure there plenty of good leaders who happen to be Muslim. Since when does religion have to do with being a good leader? al Qaeda's actions dont represent an entire people just one hateful extremist group.
I think he was refering to the fact that places like Iran aren't progressive thinkers by employing policies that are guided solely by their religion. Holocaust denying, free-thought hating, treating woman like second-class human beings, etc. Anything that doesn't fall into their religious wheel-house is automatically wrong, and blasphemous. I don't think he said anything about al-qaeda being the norm though.
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