|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 71
Practice Squad
|
OP
Practice Squad
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 71 |
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ro...mp;type=fantasyQuote:
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
Update: The Ravens will try to sign Thomas to a long-term deal this offseason, but if they can't come to terms early, they've indicated that they'll use their franchise tag on him, the Baltimore Sun reports.
Recommendation: The Ravens probably won't undergo much of an overhaul this offseason. Not too many of their key players will be free agents, but Thomas is the biggest name of the group, and one of the better IDPs out there.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,333
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,333 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 844
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 844 |
Nothing we can do about it if they work out a long term deal or franchise him. We will just have to keep getting solid draft picks and/or bring in another FA.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,435
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,435 |
that really bites 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 880
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 880 |
Let's just hope that they don't work out a long-term deal and they have to franchise him; that would get expensive for them and could fill up their cap.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864 |
THis guy was NOT coming to cleveland anyway. I don't know why you guys are so upset. He is what a Seventh year guy who had a bust out season.
Bah, let them pay him big money. No thanks
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201 |
Quote:
Let's just hope that they don't work out a long-term deal and they have to franchise him; that would get expensive for them and could fill up their cap.
Ain't gonna happen (fill up their cap that is).... and I'm not even gonna look at their cap number to check.
The 2006 Franchise value for a Lineback was $7,169,000.
2007 should be somewhat in the same ballpark.
The NFL Salary Cap goes up approximately $7,000,000 in 2007. Do the math, it won't be a tough sell to the beancounters.
Yes, this is an overly simplified look at it and doesn't account for the myriad of other factors that would be involved here, but it does show that they won't (shouldn't) have too much trouble at all affording the Franchise Tag.
In fact just about ALL teams are going to be able to afford to franchise someone if they so choose to. Between the cap increase of last season and the massive increase this season, teams are going to be flush with money.
Here's a link to read: http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/
Quote:
in 2005 it reached about $85.5 Million. Originally, the NFL has informed teams that the 2006 figure was going to be approximately $94.5 Million. However, once the owners and NFLPA voted to extend the CBA, their model for calculating the cap changed. Thus, the revised salary cap for 2006 was set to $102 Million. For 2007 the cap will be $109 M.
In the last two seasons, the cap has increased roughly $23.5 Million. As a result, as long as teams were even halfway paying attention to what they were doing when handing out contracts, they will be able to afford to franchise anyone they want. This is why even after signing the really big contracts that we did last offseason, we're still loaded.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 400
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 400 |
we're not going to get a single big-ticket name anyway, so dont plan on it
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864 |
Why do we need "Big ticket" names?
Typically "Big Ticket" free agents are overpaid has beens.
JMHO
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,960 |
This might sound a little stupid, but did anyone on here actually think that Baltimore would let this guy get away? I actually didn't even give it a second thought cause I was convinced from the begining that they would pay him whatever he wanted to stay put or he'd get franchised....
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 805
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 805 |
WHO CARES ? LET THE RATS KEEP HIM. LIKE HE WOULD WANT TO PLAY FOR THE BROWNS ANYWAY 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201 |
take it easy on the caps lock man...no need to shout 
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882 |
Quote:
This might sound a little stupid, but did anyone on here actually think that Baltimore would let this guy get away? I actually didn't even give it a second thought cause I was convinced from the begining that they would pay him whatever he wanted to stay put or he'd get franchised....
Me too. They'll keep him. Next.
![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/Punchsmack/punch.gif) “...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 688
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 688 |
In fact just about ALL teams are going to be able to afford to franchise someone if they so choose to. Between the cap increase of last season and the massive increase this season, teams are going to be flush with money.
thank you........
no matter how many times we type this, the majority just refuse to get it.
i'm curious to see just how much FA's will charge this year just because of all the money that's gonna be out there.
tradition can only carry you so far, then you have to start winning again.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,311
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,311 |
Quote:
This might sound a little stupid, but did anyone on here actually think that Baltimore would let this guy get away? I actually didn't even give it a second thought cause I was convinced from the begining that they would pay him whatever he wanted to stay put or he'd get franchised....
Exactly. No big news here. They'd be stupid to let him go. I just wish there was a guy or two (A. Davis, C. Thompson, etc.) who just busted out of the woodwork like Thomas did and became a "big ticket name" that is ALREADY ON OUR ROSTER!!
Follow me on Twitter <a href="link" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/CoachA12</a>
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,201 |
that would be a nice problem to have Knox.... I'm hoping the salary demands won't be too extravagant, I'm expecting about 10% over what things were going for last year. However, you can bet now that any premier talent that somehow isn't franchised WILL cost a fortune and a half. Unless we're able to frontload that sort of deal, I want no part of it. You can win without those types, the Patriots are a perfect example as they're doing it year after year even as teams raid their cabinets.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950 |
Quote:
Exactly. No big news here. They'd be stupid to let him go. I just wish there was a guy or two (A. Davis, C. Thompson, etc.) who just busted out of the woodwork like Thomas did and became a "big ticket name" that is ALREADY ON OUR ROSTER!!
i'm always alittle carefull on these bust out players, We've seen hundreds of bust out players sign as FA elsewhere only to find out the system dosent fit, the players around them dont let them play as they played in thier last teams system, too me bust out players are that beacuse many things came together and worked in thier favor, not always but alot of times, So to me Thomas might look good in a raven uniform, but put him in our system he might just be a over paid FA failure, but hey thats the chance ay take...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 688
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 688 |
you can bet now that any premier talent that somehow isn't franchised WILL cost a fortune and a half. Unless we're able to frontload that sort of deal, I want no part of it.
that's exactly how i see us doing it IF we sign any premier players. i don't think we're gonna put ourselves in cap trouble just because we have the $.
it wouldn't suprise me though to see us grab quite a few ( compared to normal years) 2nd tier players to fill alot of holes. i think that's how i would spend the money this year. maybe one marquis player and a bunch of 2nd level to replace the stiffs we have.
tradition can only carry you so far, then you have to start winning again.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,311
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,311 |
Quote:
So to me Thomas might look good in a raven uniform, but put him in our system he might just be a over paid FA failure, but hey thats the chance ay take...
Exactly. I'd be willing to take that chance vs. having him remain successful somewhere else, especially a division rival. If a guy's a player, then he's a player and SHOULD be so in any system, even though I can see what you're saying. However, this whole debate is moot considering we will not be eliciting Mr. Thomas' services. 
Follow me on Twitter <a href="link" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/CoachA12</a>
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864 |
Quote:
If a guy's a player, then he's a player and SHOULD be so in any system
I totally disagree on this guy. He isn't a 3rd or even 5ht year guy. He is a late bloomer and a project....we have plenty of those.
He matched Wimbley's sack total in his SEVENTH year. He did that on a much better defensive squad that has good to great Dline play.
Give Wimbley that kind of D-line play and he will be a superstar.
Point being, he is a complimentary player...and we need stars to compliment first before we add these types of players.
JMHO
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 400
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 400 |
Quote:
Why do we need "Big ticket" names?
Typically "Big Ticket" free agents are overpaid has beens.
JMHO
i dont know, tell that to the "sign steinback, draft this guy" "sign samule/thomas" ect guys. im simply saying that if you thought we had a shot at a probowler your about 98% likely wrong.
i know we got LCB, but the promise of playing for a great coach building something is gone with the shroud around RAC. the money will be coming from every direction with nfl team's new, tighter spending habits/salary cap, so why go to cleveland when you can go to a contender?
we are going to have to home grow this team, which we are doing just fine on the defensive side of the ball.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 832
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 832 |
Quote:
that really bites
The best teams are built through the draft... not through free agency. 
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Ravens Adalius Thomas : long-term
deal or Franchised
|
|
![[Linked Image from fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net]](https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/276870_6711658857_1403067853_q.jpg)
![[Linked Image from i89.photobucket.com]](http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k233/marctheshark1969/thrandelelisafaggot.jpg)
![[Linked Image from thumb0.webshots.net]](http://thumb0.webshots.net/t/34/34/0/73/58/2594073580091396520Miskbz_th.jpg)
