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He looks good to me but so does that ray guy from USC.

Did you know we don't even have a player from OSU on our roster????

What a shame..

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Not having players from OSU doesnt bother me. Sometimes its just not in the cards or for the stars to be lined up for our favorite pro football team to get a player from our favorite college. But if the Browns are picking high enough this year, I would like to see them take Malcom Jenkins.

Laurinitis would be an upgrade over Davis and I think he will have a better career. But, I think he is a bit small, ala DQ, and I would like to see them take Ray Maluagu (spelling) from USC. I also think the Browns can get a good enough CB this year in the second round.

Just throwing this out there, I remember before Modell took the team to Baltimore, Cleveland was playing Cincinatti and they asked a question, "Which 2 teams have the most players from Ohio St.?" The awnser was Cleveland and Cincinatti with 9 total. Problem was that both teams werent very good. I cant remember the players Cleveland had at the time. Tom Tupa, and that 1st round pick Powell whom I never seen play a down. In matter of fact, I think that question was the last year the Browns played in Cleveland.

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For me Laurinitis (or whatever his name is) is gonna be a bust in the NFL if plays LB. I think he is way too small. If he's got the speed then teams may consider playing him at SS.

For me Ray from USC looks like the real deal.

Depending on FA of course, we need to draft some STUD LBs to replace the garbage we have now.

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I disagreed with ya in the Savage post, but back what you said here 100%.

Animal is built for college ball, Ray to me is a excellent player we need to see more of.

Hopefully we can get a few extra 2nd rounders for KW DA or BE.

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Right now I'm leaning towards that USC backer.

But man...



Plus, if we drafted him I'd buy shoulderpads, paint them brown and put orange spikes on them. It'd be too much fun, but that's a non-football reason.

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Right now I'm leaning towards that USC backer.

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LOL......I know thats how I feel, guys a freaking stud......How does he compare to a Zack Thomas or a A.J. Hawk size & weight wise.

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One thing I think is imperative...

For too long we've drafted "Quiet, humble, character guys." (Edwards doesn't count), especially on defense. In some ways it's a reflection of the personalities of the coach and GM.

We need guys with some swagger who aren't afraid to talk a game and get the team and crowd motivated.

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Sorry to chime,...AJ "appears"to be a lot bigger now than he was then. I have nothing to back that up,....and don't have a program from his years to look it up. So don't know how different AJ and JL's college dimensions compare,....I wouldn't care if we drafted JL, but think Jenkins would be a better pick at that point in time (i.e.--Jenkins might be gone; Beanie might be on the board ??)

Depends a lot on where we pick, ergo how we finish, ergo how DA plays,.....ergo, ergo,ergo,...

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LOL......I know thats how I feel, guys a freaking stud......How does he compare to a Zack Thomas or a A.J. Hawk size & weight wise.




I agree with the size and weight. Im wondering if Laurinitis has the speed to help out a team at SS, like has been mentioned before. I cant think of his name right this second, but the Rams drafted a SS , a few years back,that was a LB in college. I know he can lay a hit in the middle of the field, help out against the run, cover the TEs, but can he keep up with the speed of NFL WRs going deep? Even given the 8-15 yard cushion the safeties give WRs. I think Laruinitis can help out against the run and hit harder then Dallas' Roy Williams, but would he be just as bad or worse in coverage.

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One thing I think is imperative...

For too long we've drafted "Quiet, humble, character guys." (Edwards doesn't count), especially on defense. In some ways it's a reflection of the personalities of the coach and GM.

We need guys with some swagger who aren't afraid to talk a game and get the team and crowd motivated.




Now when you're talking Ohio State, THAT's Kurt Coleman (not that he's draftable,...but Donnie Nickey was no BIG safety)

Agree,....JL's got some swagger to him,....what is Matthews Junior like??

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I'd only draft JL if we switched to a 4-3. I don't see him having success in the 3-4. I don't think he has the size, strength, or block shedding ability to be successful in our defense. I do think he could be very good in the 4-3, however. His speed and athleticism will be key. I see him as a great tampa 2 OLB.

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Ammo, you are going to think I'm nuts,, but look who JL plays like,, Think Troy Palumulo from the Steelers... Hmm,, Safety?

Isn't Jones contract up this year?


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That's actually something I have thought of before. I think he could be very productive in that role.

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but so does that ray guy from USC.


I thought Ray Guy was a punter


I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...

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Why don't we just keep Andra Davis if we want a linebacker who would rather make tackles down field than at the line.


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but so does that ray guy from USC.


I thought Ray Guy was a punter




Now that right there is pretty funny,...I don't care who you are.

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Ammo, you are going to think I'm nuts,, but look who JL plays like,, Think Troy Palumulo from the Steelers... Hmm,, Safety?

Isn't Jones contract up this year?




Just suppose The Little Animal did switch to safety and Jones stayed healthy (and was re-signed,...)

That's a crunch machine right there.

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The guy you are thinking about is Adam Archuleta from Arizona St.. I would take Malualuga over JL every day.



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The guy you are thinking about is Adam Archuleta from Arizona St.. I would take Malualuga over JL every day.




I believe you are responding to "weed," (no harm, no foul) but I agree Archuleta is probably the dude he was thinking of.

As for the other half, Ray will most likely be gone when we pick. That's what I believe is fueling the Animal debate anyway.

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The one draft board I looked up had AJ at 6'1", 240 at draft time, the Packers site now has him at 6'1", 248..

Urlacher is now 6'4", 258 and was the same size coming out of college.. neat thing I didn't know, he actually played some safety in college.


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The one draft board I looked up had AJ at 6'1", 240 at draft time, the Packers site now has him at 6'1", 248..

Urlacher is now 6'4", 258 and was the same size coming out of college.. neat thing I didn't know, he actually played some safety in college.




Thanks for doing my work, again !! I knew you'd come through. So if Laurinaitis is 6'1" 240, he's worth a shot,....??

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Laurinaitis is listed by the OSU sports websites and draft guru sites as being in the 6-2 to 6-3 range and 240 to 245 lbs.


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One thing I think is imperative...

For too long we've drafted "Quiet, humble, character guys." (Edwards doesn't count), especially on defense. In some ways it's a reflection of the personalities of the coach and GM.

We need guys with some swagger who aren't afraid to talk a game and get the team and crowd motivated.





I'd rather have a bunch of guys that are capable of actually backing up their talk first, THEN let's talk about getting some attitude.


Gimme Maluaguauaguaagga from USC and Clay, Jr.... hell, make it a trifecta and gimme Laurenitis as well... but gimme the two USC guys first.
Hell, we just might be able to get Maluagaguaa in the 1st, Laurenitis in the 2nd and Clay Jr later on in the 3rd or 4th.

That'd be an awfully nice way of setting up our LBing corps for the next few years.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Graet pipe dream,... I just don't see Ray on the board when we pick,...now if they're both there, I'm looking at injury history.

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To me, James is clearly behind Ray, not only in the NFL, but especially for this team.

James is fast and a high-effort guy, but I've seen him get killed when blockers get their hands on him, primarily because of his size.

This isn't to say he's a bum. He's not. He's a 1st round talent. I just don't think there's any debate as to who the 1st ILB taken will be.


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I just don't think there's any debate as to who the 1st ILB taken will be.






Just a comment here...dont everybody jump down my throat....

Check out a few mock draft, no I dont believe them but thier fun, Ray or JL are not the first two LB being predicted to be taken in the first. Just a comment to look into. Ray they said is always fighting the injury bug and JL is what we said smaller sized for a LB.

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I just don't think there's any debate as to who the 1st ILB taken will be.






Just a comment here...dont everybody jump down my throat....

Check out a few mock draft, no I dont believe them but thier fun, Ray or JL are not the first two LB being predicted to be taken in the first. Just a comment to look into. Ray they said is always fighting the injury bug and JL is what we said smaller sized for a LB.





This is not, repeat not, a throat jump--but that's what I said about AP too,...

Now if we're calling Hawk "successful" at Green Bay, and James is already of "better dimension," and Ray ain't on the board at all,....??

BTW, who are the other mock draftee LB's?

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Just suppose The Little Animal did switch to safety and Jones stayed healthy (and was re-signed,...)

That's a crunch machine right there




That's a tasty thought isn't it....

I don't know if JL is fast enough, sure seems like it but you know it's hard to tell given the level of talent he plays against. Most of those opponents won't even sniff an NFL team...... But man, it sure does look pretty good to me..


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M.Johnson from Georgia Tech, he's actually a DE my bad.....

the others are Aaron Curry from Wake Forest & Brian Orakpo from Texas who they have as a DE/OLB saying depends on the system.

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There are ways to scheme defenses to make up for a lack of safety speed when you have that kind of a hitter,...

I'm not saying "Go all out and take the kid,..." but the Browns did pass on "slow and small" Chris Spielman. I'm only making it a consideration because Ray Mal is not going to be on the board.

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Gimme Maluaguauaguaagga from USC and Clay, Jr.... hell, make it a trifecta and gimme Laurenitis as well... but gimme the two USC guys first.



Rey Maualuga and Lauranitis are 1 &2 for ILBs on every board I've seen but Cushing from USC is ahead of Clay Jr on some.. maybe we could get Maualuga, Cushing and Clay Jr.. and all 3 USC LBers could fly to Cleveland on the same plane.. At least they'd be familiar with each other..


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Has anybody informed Tucker of this Yet.......

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Gimme Maluaguauaguaagga from USC and Clay, Jr.... hell, make it a trifecta and gimme Laurenitis as well... but gimme the two USC guys first.



Rey Maualuga and Lauranitis are 1 &2 for ILBs on every board I've seen but Cushing from USC is ahead of Clay Jr on some.. maybe we could get Maualuga, Cushing and Clay Jr.. and all 3 USC LBers could fly to Cleveland on the same plane.. At least they'd be familiar with each other..




I forgot about Cushing,....

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Has anybody informed Tucker of this Yet.......



He's aware, however the scheme involves linebackers making tackles and stuff... that's why he doesn't use it.


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Tackling? You aren't allowed to do that in the NFL. Well, that's what the Browns told me.....

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No. I'm not sold on any LB from OSU. Hawk and Carpenter were suppose to be studs. What have we heard from them? I'm not trying to say all Buckeye backers are the same but rather their play in the Big Ten is suspect. Our defense has been dominate until we have played very good teams out of conference.


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Here are A.J. stats thru 12 weeks, we can all make our own determination. Didnt even look up carpenters, he's been pretty much a special team player from what i've seen.

Tackles 72

solo 53

asst. 19

sacks 2

Pass Def. 2

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A die-hard Packers fan who I consider knowlegeable loves Hawk.

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The guy you are thinking about is Adam Archuleta from Arizona St.. I would take Malualuga over JL every day.




I believe you are responding to "weed," (no harm, no foul) but I agree Archuleta is probably the dude he was thinking of.

As for the other half, Ray will most likely be gone when we pick. That's what I believe is fueling the Animal debate anyway.




Yeah thats it, Archuleta.

What pisses me off about the mocks drafts that are out already, is that no matter where San Diego picks (they picked before the Browns before last weeks loss, now they would pick after), they have the Chargers taken Ray Malualaga. I guess it looks like a pick to satisfy the Souhtern Cali fans.

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I personally think Lauranitis is a bit overrated. Watch the games early in the year....he did a lot of waiting for the ball carrier to come to him. He is doing much better the last 3-4 games though.

If we were to take anyone from the Buckeye's I'd want Jenkins, or maybe Wells assuming he goes pro...but I think Wells will have injury problems at the next level.

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