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CANTON, Ohio -- Four first-year eligible players, John Randle, Shannon Sharpe, Bruce Smith, and Rod Woodson, are among the 25 semifinalists being considered for the Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2009. The Hall of Fame's Board of Selectors chose the 25 semifinalists from the recently announced list of 133 preliminary nominees. Although he has been eligible since 1999, this is first time that Roger Craig has been a semifinalist. Each of the remaining 20 nominees has been on the semifinalist list at least once prior to this year. Although no coaches are among the semifinalists, the list includes three contributors, Art Modell, Paul Tagliabue and Ralph Wilson. The complete list of 25 modern-era semifinalists is as follows: » Cris Carter, WR - 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins » Roger Craig, RB - 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings, » Terrell Davis, RB - 1995-2001 Denver Broncos » Dermontti Dawson, C - 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers » Richard Dent, DE - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles » Chris Doleman, DE/LB - 1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers » Kevin Greene, LB/DE - 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers » Russ Grimm, G - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins » Ray Guy, P - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders » Charles Haley, DE/LB - 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys » Lester Hayes, CB - 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders » Cortez Kennedy, DT - 1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks » Bob Kuechenberg, G - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins » Randall McDaniel, G - 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers » Art Modell, Owner - 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens» John Randle, DT - 1990-2000 Minnesota Vikings, 2001-03 Seattle Seahawks » Andre Reed, WR - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins » Shannon Sharpe, TE - 1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens » Bruce Smith, DE - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000-03 Washington Redskins » Ken Stabler, QB - 1970-79 Oakland Raiders, 1980-81 Houston Oilers, 1982-84 New Orleans Saints » Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner - 1989-2006 National Football League » Steve Tasker, Special Teams/WR - 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills » Derrick Thomas, LB - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs » Ralph Wilson, Owner - 1960-current Buffalo Bills » Rod Woodson, CB/S - 1987-1996 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers, 1998-2001 Baltimore Ravens, 2002-03 Oakland Raiders LINK
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Hope this isn't his year... 
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How does the voting work? How many votes does each voter get? Then we could do our own and count up the votes 
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Considering that only 5 get in per year, that's a hard list to choose from.
My 5 would be:
Bruce Smith - He's a lock
Roger Craig - 4 Super Bowls
Charles Haley- 5 Superbowls
Kenny Stabler - Didn't know he wasn't already inducted.
Derrick Thomas - Most dominating defensive player of the '90's. - Again, surprised he's not in already.
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Hard to argue with those five. I also think Shannon Sharpe and Andre Reed have a fair chance, although maybe not this year. It's nice to finally start getting guys up for vote that I've seen play live.
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I see the following getting in:
Cris Carter
8 ProBowls
# 2 all-time in receptions
# 3 all-time in receiving tds
Dermontti Dawson
7 ProBowls
Chris Doleman
8 ProBowls
# 4 all-time in sacks
Kevin Greene
5 ProBowls
# 3 all-time in sacks
John Randle
7 ProBowls
# 6 all-time in sacks
Andre Reed
7 ProBowls
# 6 all-time in receptions
# 9 all-time in receiving yards
# 11 all-time in receiving tds
Bruce Smith
11 ProBowls
# 1 all-time in sacks
Rod Woodson
11 ProBowls
# 3 all-time in INTS
# 1 all-time in INT yardage
# 1 all-time in INTS for tds
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» Art Modell, Owner - 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens
...Dude....Not cool.
Ryan Leaf deserves the Hall of Fame more than HE does...
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Do you mean all 8 of them will eventually get in?
There is a limit of 5 per year.
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OPINION: Ray Guy is a shoo-in. Rest of this list is too tough to choose from. (No Art, obviously). Maybe Kuchenberg and Dawson, maybe Carter, Grimm. Woodson will get some consideration (NFL 75th team,...)
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If Art gets in, I will be there to boo through the whole induction.
you had a good run Hank.
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My five
Ray Guy
Bruce Smith
Rod Woodson
Derek Thomas
Charles Haley
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Guy is a shoo-in.
that's funny. I get it. shoe in. 
...on the other hand, maybe he gets 'booted' off the list.
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My five
Ray Guy
Bruce Smith
Rod Woodson
Derek Thomas
Charles Haley
That looks about right to me.
Guy has to get in....not many players have awards named after them and aren't in..
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Do you mean all 8 of them will eventually get in?
There is a limit of 5 per year.
To clarify, i see some combination of those 8 getting in.
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That looks about right to me.
Guy has to get in....not many players have awards named after them and aren't in..
The Ray Guy award is given to college punters......just in case Donovan McNabb is reading and he doesn't know that........
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My five
Bob Kuechenberg
Bruce Smith
Rod Woodson
Lester Hayes
Ken Stabler
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The Ray Guy award is given to college punters......just in case Donovan McNabb is reading and he doesn't know that........
Oops.  
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That looks about right to me.
Guy has to get in....not many players have awards named after them and aren't in..
The Ray Guy award is given to college punters......just in case Donovan McNabb is reading and he doesn't know that........
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» Art Modell, Owner - 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens
...Dude....Not cool.
Ryan Leaf deserves the Hall of Fame more than HE does...
I hope he drops dead on the stage during the ceremony if he gets in.
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My 5 would be
Chris Carter
Roger Craig
Charles Haley
Rod Woodson
Bruce Smith
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j/c There can actually be anywhere from 4 to 7 people picked each year for the HOF, not just 5... http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/selectionprocess.jsp
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1- Roger Craig
2- Russ Grimm
3- Charles Hayley
4- Bruce Smith
5- Derrick Thomas
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j/c
shannon sharpe deserves to be on the list as well
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Do you mean all 8 of them will eventually get in?
There is a limit of 5 per year.
As others have already mentioned, the number "allowed" in each year can range from a minimum of four to a maximum of seven. Last year, for example, there were a total of 6 inductees.
Once players have been out of the league for 25 years, they have to be placed on the final list by the senior committee......out of the 17 final candidates to be voted on 15 will be modern era and 2 will be from the senior committee recommendations. This is what took Gene Hickerson so long to get in.
As for Modell.....like it or not based upon his contributions to the game he deserves enshrinement. I don't hope he "dies on the stage" as that would be mean and would delay the enshrinement process for the others. I have no doubt he will get in one day, but I hope it's posthumously so he has no earthly idea that he made it........
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As for Modell.....like it or not based upon his contributions to the game he deserves enshrinement.
I agree, though I think he should get it while still alive....there comes a time to forgive...people need to let that go.
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My 7 in order would be:
Rod Woodson
Charles Haley
Bruce Smith
Ralph Wilson
Cris Carter
Derrick Thomas
Ray Guy
And for those thinking Roger Craig .... he wasn't IMO in the top 5 as far as skill and production on his own offense. It's incredible to me that he's on this list frankly.
Another point...Charles Haley was a big time, and I mean big time factor in both the 49ers and the Cowboys success. He was a GREAT player and a game changer. Charles Haley is very underrated.
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My five: well crap i could only get it down to 13  » Cris Carter, WR - 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins » Roger Craig, RB - 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings, » Dermontti Dawson, C - 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers » Richard Dent, DE - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles » Charles Haleyd/Los Angeles Raiders, DE/LB - 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys > Randall McDaniel, G - 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers » John Randle, DT - 1990-2000 Minnesota Vikings, 2001-03 Seattle Seahawks » Andre Reed, WR - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins » Shannon Sharpe, TE - 1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens » Bruce Smith, DE - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000-03 Washington Redskins » Ken Stabler, QB - 1970-79 Oakland Raiders, 1980-81 Houston Oilers, 1982-84 New Orleans Saints » Derrick Thomas, LB - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs » Rod Woodson, CB/S - 1987-1996 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers, 1998-2001 Baltimore Ravens, 2002-03 Oakland Raiders
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Can't do it.
Agreed. He has done as much bad for the game as he has good...
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Just clickin,
While he was a good player (Roger Craig) i don't understand how many of you think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. He averaged less then 50 yds rushing a game and less then 30 yds receiving per game for his career.
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Just clickin,
While he was a good player (Roger Craig) i don't understand how many of you think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. He averaged less then 50 yds rushing a game and less then 30 yds receiving per game for his career.
multiple superbowls, first player ever to rush and recieve for over 1000 yards in the same season. Also first player to score three TCs in a superbowl.
Ruining QB's since 1999.
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So because your team makes the superbowl or you play well in one that qualifies you to be in the Hall of Fame? Yeah he did have 2 really good years, in ' 85 when he went over 1,000 yds both rushing and receiving and in ' 88 when he had 1,500 yds rushing but his other years were fairly mediocre. He only finished in the top 10 in rushing 3x in his career and ranks 34 all-time in rushing yds.
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Cris Carter
Bruce Smith (no brainer)
Rod Woodson (no brainer)
Derrick Thomas (agree with earlier poster...how he's not in yet is confusing)
Andre Reed
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