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Hey I really didn’t feel like posting about the browns debacle so I decided it was time for some draft talk even if they won’t give us a forum yet  For this mock I am assuming no trades (which never happens) and everyone and their brother declares (which also never happens). Detroit Lions- Boy oh boy..0-16 I guess they really earned the first pick in the first round this year. However they should have a new coach (may not happen) but more importantly they will have someone new picking their drafts from now on. I think because they have a great WR in Calvin Johnson and decent running back in Kevin Smith they are going to go and get their franchise QB. I think they select: OU QB Sam Bradford- I know some people have been high on Matt Stafford but due to the recent difficulties of UGA and the fact Bradford is going to win the Heisman the Lions Select him. Cincinnati Bengals- Their offense and defense stinks but that can be attributed to a poor offensive line and losing Rivers and Palmer. They might draft defense here but I think the problem with their offensive can be fixed by choosing a good offensive lineman. They actually have a franchise QB and they need to protect him. They Select: Virginia OT Eugene Monroe- I actually think he is similar to our Joe Thomas in that he is quick, athletic, and will be a great pass blocker which Cincy needs. He will need to work on his run blockings as do most OT’s coming from college. Oakland Raiders: Well who knows who Al Davis is going to pick…To be honest I have no idea. I can tell you who they should pick but I can see them picking Michael Crabtree, Rey Maulauga, Michael Jenkins or Andre Smith here. I think their defense can be good if their offense ever scored points. I think because of the investments of Darren McFadden and JaMarcus Russell they select an offensive tackle to at least give their playmakers a chance. Raiders Select: Alabama OT Andre Smith- Big, Mean, and Nasty. He is a power/mauler type of tackle that maybe just maybe Al Dais can fall in love with. For D-Mac and Russell’s sake I hope they take a tackle. Kansas City Chiefs- You know I really think that Tyler Thigpen hasn’t done that bad of a job considering his cast., because of his play I don’t see them selecting a QB. I think they are going to try and help out the youngster by selecting a WR to team up with D. Bowie. The Chiefs Select: Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree- If this happens I can see Thigpen dancing in his living room. I doubt Gonzo will be back for next but if he does come back their pass attack will be amazing. The rest of the draft I think they concentrate of Defense Seattle Seahawks- Boy is the Chiefs pick a heartbreaker for the Seahawks who had their heart set on Crabtree. However, due to the injuries I think this team is much better than they played this year. Hopefully the Seawhawks will make a go for TJ Housh and then they are free select whoever they want.. I can see the Seahawks either selecting Beanie Wells or Michael Johnson. Seahawks select: Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson- If they lose out on TJ I think they will select Wells to help improve their offense but because of his injury history I think they try to improve their pass rush and select the first defensive player taken St. Louis Rams: The Rams have been pretty terrible but I think they have their priorities in the right place. Last year they took a Defensive lineman and I think this year they take an offensive lineman Rams Select: Ole miss OT Michael Oher: They could also select an QB, DE, or CB. Cleveland Browns (note I believe Jacksonville will win a game and we have no hope)- Well what a good problem to have. Almost everyone who the Browns could have wanted is available. Michael Jenkins, Vonte Davis, Beanie Wells, James L., and Rey Maulauga. I don’t think we should select a CB. Look at the Steelers they make ordinary corners look great because they have a pass rush., because of this I really think the browns will not select a Corner will out first pick. Beanie would look nice as brown but good running backs can be had via trade, FA, or later rounds. So that leaves us picking between Rey and James. I think Rey is a bigger LB and more suitable to the 3-4. He also makes impact plays. The Browns Select: USC OLB Rey Maulauga: I also hope we either sign Albert Haynesworth or Terrell Suggs. You give me Suggs and Maulauga and a heathly defensive line I think people will be surprised how good our corners will look. After this I kinda didn’t feel like finishing it to be honest. But oh well the rest of the order. Jacksonville Jaguars Green Bay Packers San Diego Chargers San Francisco 49ers Houston Texans Chicago Bears New Orleans Saints Buffalo Bills Atlanta Falcons Minnesota Vikings Arizona Cardinals Denver Broncos Miami Dolphins New England Patriots Washington Redskins Philadelphia Eagles Indianapolis Colts Baltimore Ravens Dallas Cowboys New York Jets Carolina Panthers Pittsburgh Steelers Tampa Bay Buccaneers New York Giants z- Tennessee Titans Note NFL Draftcountdown has the browns taking Vonte Davis/Malcom Jenkins. http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.phpESPN has us : 10th and picking Brian Orakpo Discuss
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Now they have us picking at 8th! 
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However, the bottom line is if there's any value left at corner when Cleveland's on the clock that's the direction they have to go.
Tough to argue with that after what we've seen this year.
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Can't argue too much with the first 4.
Seattle I think you are way off. Maybe on Crabtree. No way on Wells. They have Mo Morris, and just signed Julius Jones and TJ Duckett this past offseason. The running game in Seattle isn't bad considering they have no starters on the O-line left, as well as being without Hasselbeck most of the season. DE I have to say no way to also. They just drafted Lawrence Jackson with their first pick last year, have Patrick Kearney (IR right now), Daryl Tapp, and Baraka Atkins who they're happy with. As I said, maybe on Crabtree, but I'd wager either Colt McCoy (since Bradford is gone) or Michael Oher (OT, Ole Miss) - afterall Walter Jones will be 35 in January.
I'd wager St Louis goes Aaron Curry or Malcom Jenkins at this point.
As per Cleveland, pass rush is what I'm hoping for. That could come in the form of Brian Orakpo or Michael Johnson. I like the idea of Maualuga roaming the middle too.
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Dude, I have no respect for the Browns pick in this mock draft... we don't need anything on our front 7, we are SET there.. We cut and/or trade BOTH QUINN AND ANDERSON... and have Dorsey teach TIM TEBOW how to run the show and we just tear up the league with a running, shot-gun spread offense....  I'm just totally yanking you... Defensive front seven is an absolute must, particularly linebacking corps, if Orakpo and/or Johnson show that they are stud tweeners, you take one of them over someone roaming the inside, no brainer
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Seattle I think you are way off. Maybe on Crabtree. No way on Wells. They have Mo Morris, and just signed Julius Jones and TJ Duckett this past offseason.
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Lol, saying no way on Wells because they are set with Jones, Morris and Duckett is like saying saying no way on a QB because they have Hasselback, Wallace & Frye.
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Dude, I have no respect for the Browns pick in this mock draft... we don't need anything on our front 7, we are SET there..
We cut and/or trade BOTH QUINN AND ANDERSON... and have Dorsey teach TIM TEBOW how to run the show and we just tear up the league with a running, shot-gun spread offense....
Why not at this point. No team has successfully run the spread offense in the NFL, mind as well give it a shot here.
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What is up with all the hoorah with the DE Johnson out of Georgia Tech? Besides his height, is he really that good?
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I wouldn't mind us taking Orakpo either, if he's as good as advertised.
Haven't seen very many games of him but espn had a thing on him I seen on youtube and I watched some of his videos on youtube and he seems like an animal and pretty un-blockable.
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We don't know,...you're the Georgia guy, you tell us.  I've never heard of him. When that is the case, I always say no thanks. (Not that the kid isn't any good.) If RM is there, you do it. If not, then either the Robinson kid from Oklahoma or the Smith kid from Alabama. I'm tired of offensive PD's; we need to build the OLine.
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Some sites are comparing him to Mathias Kiwanuka.... I think Johnson gets drafted more for his "potential" upside, rather than what he can bring to the field come day 1.
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What is up with all the hoorah with the DE Johnson out of Georgia Tech? Besides his height, is he really that good?
He has the athleticism to be another Justin Tuck type player who can rush the passer from all over the field. For a team running a zone blitz defense, he's perfect. I'd be all over him.
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Some sites are comparing him to Mathias Kiwanuka.... I think Johnson gets drafted more for his "potential" upside, rather than what he can bring to the field come day 1.
That's where I guess I have to apologize for being old,...I want the "day 1 " kids.
Some teams,...like the Steelers,...could take a kid like that and wait. The Browns don't have that luxury. Unless they come out and tell us that we're on another new 5-year plan, then fine. I'll wait.
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Ok, I'm bored. I'll make a little mock.
Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford- They need a face of the franchise and Stafford is it. They have no good QB and Stafford's big arm will be perfect with Calvin Johnson
Other Possibilities: No one really.
Cincinnati Bengals: Andre Smith- There O-Line is awful and they need someone to protect Carson and be a factor in the run game.
Other Possibilities: Michael Crabree, Beanie Wells, Michael Johnson
Oakland Raiders: Michael Crabree- Al Davis loves those stud athletes. Remember how much he liked Calvin Johnson? Well Crabtree is a lot like him. He gives Russel another weapon. But, it's Al Davis so no one really knows.
Other Possibilites- Eugene Monroe, Malcolm Jenkins, Michael Johnson
Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Johnson- Their replacement for Jared Allen. Johnson and Dorsey will be great next to each other.
Other Possibilites: Sam Bradford, Beanie Wells
Seattle Seahawks: Beanie Wells- The Seahawks don't have much at Running Back and Beanie is the best player left at this point.
Other Possibilities: Sam Bradford, Malcolm Jenkins, Rey Maualaga
St. Louis Rams: Michael Oher: Their O-Line is in shambles and they need that guy who can replace Orlando Pace.
Other possibilities: Sam Bradford, Malcolm Jenkins
Cleveland Browns: Rey Maualaga- We need a stud ILB to be our Ray Lewis and he is IT.
Other possibilities: Aaron Curry, Malcolm Jenkins, Brian Orakpo
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I mean look at Champ Baliey right now he isn't having a great year cause he has no pass rush. Lets get some pass rushers/LB's then we can decide. I really think it might come down to Beanie Wells vs Rey Maulauga. Plus as always it really depends on our FA class.
Some names I'm interested:
-Terrell Suggs (He has to be our number 1 target)
-Matt Birk(Would help our offensive line with his experience and much more physical play over Fraley)
-Ray Lewis Yeah I know he's old and yeah his years are numbered but he still is a great player would be dramatic improvement over AD/D'Qwell
-Albert Haynesworth If we don't get Suggs we might as well try to get the two best defensive lineman in the league on the same team
-TJ Housh I think this only happens if we get rid of BE or Winslow.
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I think concentrating on FA's is way overrated. At least in terms of contributing to success as a Cleveland Brown is concerned.
Again, as an old man, the term "success" means appearing again in the NFL Championship Game during my lifetime.
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Johnson out of GT had been highly pimped by the media preseason for his athletecism but he just hasn't produced. I think he is a guy who will be drafted too high for his on field performance because of his measurables. I don't want to draft a guy in the 1st round who can't dominate at the college level.
Orakpo could be the next Terrell Suggs though I would prefer to sign Suggs and Draft Maualuga. Actually I would rather draft Maualuga over Orakpo anyway. And would give consideration to Currey over Orakpo but I am not yet settled in my opinion on one over the other.
Another FA to consider is Bart Scott. I think he is a FA at the end of the year as well - not sure. But if we could sign him he would inject the fire and passion our def is so severely missing and he would fill the ILB whole allowing us to go OLB (Curry or Orakpo).
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1) Detriot M. Oher L.T. Ole Miss.
2) Cincy A. Smith L.T. Alabama
3) KC B. Orakpo D.E. Texas
4) STL E. Monroe O.T. Virginia
5) Seattle M. Crabtree W.R. Texas Tech
6) Oakland M. Johnson DE G.T.
7) San Francisco M. Stafford QB Georgia
8) Jax T. Mays SS U.S.C.
9) Houston M. Jenkins CB Ohio State
10) Cleveland C. Wells R.B. Ohio State
11) SD R. Maulaluga ILB U.S.C.
12) Philly C. Black OT LSU
13) G.B K. Mareno RB Georgia
14) Miami T. Jackson D.E. L.S.U.
15) Buffalo A. Curry O.L.B. Wake Forest
16) NO W. Moore FS Missouri
17) Minn S. Bradford QB Oklahoma
18) Washington S. Marks DT Auburn
19) Atlanta T. Cody DT Alabama
20) N.E. G. Selvie DE S. Florida
21) Indy V. Davis C.B. Illini
22) Detriot (Dallas) V. Ogohobasse DT Duke
23) Ravens Derrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
24) Philly (Carolina) J. Gresham TE Oklahoma
25) Denver B. Spikes MLB Florida
26) Chicago D Robinson OG Oklahoma
27) Arizona...B. Cushing L.B. U.S.C.
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28) Jets Victor "Macho" Harris CB V.T.
29) T.B J. Maclin WR Mizzou
30) Pitt A. Mack C Cal
31) Tenn G. Hardy DE Ole Miss.
32) Giants J. Laurinits LB Ohio State
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Candy, if we take an OSU RB before addressing the Front-7.....I'll puke in my lap.
IMO - Order of need:
Front-7
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Right side of O-line (though taking a RG in the first round is a little stupid)
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I would assume our first pick will be defense no matter what.
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Both Crabtree and McCoy said they are coming back next season.
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Both Crabtree and McCoy said they are coming back next season.
Unless I missed something recently, Crabtree's dad said the report that came out late last week was not from their family and they have yet to make their decision. I hope he does come out, someone above us might take him and push more defensive talent down to us.
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Your right I would prefer maualuga I was just being lazy and tried to think of a scenario most likely for all teams. It would be a domino effect if the browns took maualuga.
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Maualuga is my first choice obviously but man I really really wish we could get Bell on the field for the last few games and see if he stands out a bit.
I don't think Bell will even be in the same class as Maualuga but Bell can lay the lumber as well. I just wish we could have gotten a look at him cause it would be a shame to have drafted someone when you didn't really need him and could have went another direction.
But then again you get Maualuga and have a competition between Maualuga, Bell and Jackson for the ILB spots and your coming away in a better position to get the most out of the spot and have a solid rotation and very capable backups.
I guess that is where the drafting to strength philosophy comes into play.
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I want another Joe Thomas. Defense neither scores points nor controls the clock. Moving the ball is what makes a great defense great.
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I want another Joe Thomas. Defense neither scores points nor controls the clock. Moving the ball is what makes a great defense great.
joe thomas needs to pull a shawn kemp and procreate all over northeast ohio, that way, in like 20 years, we have all kinds of joe thomas' running around cleveland, who will then attend ohio state, who will then be drafted by the browns...
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Just another Lb to read about. I don't know where he is projected but he appears to be a junior so he may not come out.
This story originally published on ScoutNFLNetwork.com A A A A A Marino’ Top Defender In The College Ranks By Tom Marino Lead NFL Analyst Posted Dec 9, 2008 Tom Marino has seen a lot of top defensive players during the 2008 college season. Just who does he see as the best of the best? Many fans will be hearing his choices name for the very first time today, but our resident scout of thirty-four seasons in professional football assures the readers, that in a very short while, he may be one of the most recognizable and feared names in pro. football. I almost jumped out of my chair after viewing Boston College’ “sam” linebacker Mark Herzlich play earlier in the season. He appeared to make virtually every tackle on the football field! He made an inordinate number of plays up the field and was also particularly adept in pass coverage. When viewing a would be prospect, I’m sort of a nit-picker, but after my third exposure of viewing this individual, I noticed that I didn’t have a single negative comment on my work sheet for this player. I’d really like to see him return for his senior season, but realistically Herzlich is more than ready to enter the professional ranks. Let’s take a look at our scout.com advanced scouting report on Marino’ pick to click. No: 94 Name: Sandon “Mark” Herzlich Grade: 1.14 College: Boston College Pos: SOLB Exposure: VPI / VPI (2) / Maryland / Wake Forest / Clemson / Florida St Rhode Island Physical Make Up: Well conditioned / Tall tight skinned individual / Muscular with adequate peaks (not near full potential) / Arms appear long and has a v-shaped torso. A medium strider with sudden qualities. Moves laterally well with impressive feet and balance. Strong Points: Size stature (can add significant weight to his frame) / Competitiveness / Highly intelligent (learns and assimilates quickly) / Instinctive and overall football awareness / Key and diagnose skills / Runs extremely well with A-1 playing range / Use of hands / Control (meet pressure) and get off blocks / Doesn’t linger on blocks / Can blow up lead and iso and maintain leverage on the ball / Special teams potential and background / Physical tackler who wraps up effectively (can deliver the knockout punch) / Zone pass drops were more than efficient / Excellent awareness and route recognition / Good reactions and hands / Can cover the tight end and match up with the back on the flat and down the field / Playing production and consistency / Change of direction (can stick his foot in the ground and go) Excellent secondary pursuit (doesn’t give up on plays or coast) Took good angles and once he saw it showed closing speed / Natural playing strength and leverage (very explosive on contact) / Blitz speed and timing. Weak Points: Needs to add additional upper body strength (does have broad shoulders and long arms). Potential: Herzlich was a truly outstanding football player. I loved his game to game consistency and the way he performed with the game in the balance. He’s big, athletic, runs like a scalded dog, yet appeared to play totally under control. A disruptive force on the football field. He can play effectively up on the line of scrimmage and was also very effective playing in space. Can and has played all three linebacker position. I really liked him in both man and zone coverage (matches up well and excellent size makes it difficult to throw over). With no live exposure (game or practice) or much in the way of background information, there are at this early stage, some unknown about this particular player, but I have heard (second hand) only good things about this highly talented football player. I would be surprised if this player were not to test off the charts and his awareness and instincts are exactly what you are looking for at the linebacker position (has all the tools). I see a lot of Brian Urlacher in this player and see no reason why he would not start and impact from the go in his rookie season. A top ten first round selection. For the readers who are following the exclusive series on scout.com “So You Want to Be a Professional Football Scout,” this report that you have just read is very typical of what is expected from members of a particular team’s scouting staff. In actuality, if I were to have visited the Boston College campus, I would have been able to obtain additional first hand information regarding the players character, work habits, strength numbers and in some cases his medical history. I would also have been able to typically view coaches tape, look at him physically and do some research regarding his early special teams background. For the would be football players who may be reading this http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=2&c=819644
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If we take a RB in the first round this year, Savage needs to be fired on the spot. We have other bigger holes to fill than RB. 
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I disagree
Not that we have bigger holes then RB but that Phil should be fired. You never know who's gonna be available when we pick and if a RB is there that is clearly better then the next best Defensive player u gotta go with the RB.
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Just another Lb to read about. I don't know where he is projected but he appears to be a junior so he may not come out.
This story originally published on ScoutNFLNetwork.com
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Marino’ Top Defender In The College Ranks
By Tom Marino
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Posted Dec 9, 2008
Tom Marino has seen a lot of top defensive players during the 2008 college season. Just who does he see as the best of the best? Many fans will be hearing his choices name for the very first time today, but our resident scout of thirty-four seasons in professional football assures the readers, that in a very short while, he may be one of the most recognizable and feared names in pro. football.
I almost jumped out of my chair after viewing Boston College’ “sam” linebacker Mark Herzlich play earlier in the season. He appeared to make virtually every tackle on the football field! He made an inordinate number of plays up the field and was also particularly adept in pass coverage. When viewing a would be prospect, I’m sort of a nit-picker, but after my third exposure of viewing this individual, I noticed that I didn’t have a single negative comment on my work sheet for this player.
I’d really like to see him return for his senior season, but realistically Herzlich is more than ready to enter the professional ranks. Let’s take a look at our scout.com advanced scouting report on Marino’ pick to click.
No: 94 Name: Sandon “Mark” Herzlich Grade: 1.14
College: Boston College Pos: SOLB
Exposure: VPI / VPI (2) / Maryland / Wake Forest / Clemson / Florida St Rhode Island
Physical Make Up: Well conditioned / Tall tight skinned individual / Muscular with adequate peaks (not near full potential) / Arms appear long and has a v-shaped torso. A medium strider with sudden qualities. Moves laterally well with impressive feet and balance.
Strong Points: Size stature (can add significant weight to his frame) / Competitiveness / Highly intelligent (learns and assimilates quickly) / Instinctive and overall football awareness / Key and diagnose skills / Runs extremely well with A-1 playing range / Use of hands / Control (meet pressure) and get off blocks / Doesn’t linger on blocks / Can blow up lead and iso and maintain leverage on the ball / Special teams potential and background / Physical tackler who wraps up effectively (can deliver the knockout punch) / Zone pass drops were more than efficient / Excellent awareness and route recognition / Good reactions and hands / Can cover the tight end and match up with the back on the flat and down the field / Playing production and consistency / Change of direction (can stick his foot in the ground and go) Excellent secondary pursuit (doesn’t give up on plays or coast) Took good angles and once he saw it showed closing speed / Natural playing strength and leverage (very explosive on contact) / Blitz speed and timing.
Weak Points: Needs to add additional upper body strength (does have broad shoulders and long arms).
Potential: Herzlich was a truly outstanding football player. I loved his game to game consistency and the way he performed with the game in the balance. He’s big, athletic, runs like a scalded dog, yet appeared to play totally under control. A disruptive force on the football field.
He can play effectively up on the line of scrimmage and was also very effective playing in space. Can and has played all three linebacker position. I really liked him in both man and zone coverage (matches up well and excellent size makes it difficult to throw over).
With no live exposure (game or practice) or much in the way of background information, there are at this early stage, some unknown about this particular player, but I have heard (second hand) only good things about this highly talented football player.
I would be surprised if this player were not to test off the charts and his awareness and instincts are exactly what you are looking for at the linebacker position (has all the tools). I see a lot of Brian Urlacher in this player and see no reason why he would not start and impact from the go in his rookie season. A top ten first round selection.
For the readers who are following the exclusive series on scout.com “So You Want to Be a Professional Football Scout,” this report that you have just read is very typical of what is expected from members of a particular team’s scouting staff.
In actuality, if I were to have visited the Boston College campus, I would have been able to obtain additional first hand information regarding the players character, work habits, strength numbers and in some cases his medical history. I would also have been able to typically view coaches tape, look at him physically and do some research regarding his early special teams background.
For the would be football players who may be reading this
http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=2&c=819644
Herzlich is really a productive guy. There is a lot of rumors that he's coming out, but nothing concrete yet.
Oh and on an unrelated note, Crabtree is a near lock to go pro. His old man has been all over agents.
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Herzlich is a stud. I have no idea what his measurables are but the guy is all over the field and makes plays. He could do without the Batman mask he paints on his face though...
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I couldn't resist I had to do an off-season Mock, tell me what you think.
Trade Anderson to Minnesota or any takers for a 3rd rounder
Trade Schaffer For a 3rd rounder or trade him to Oakland for Michael Bush
and their 5th rounder. (i'm going with the second option for this)
Re-sign
Sean jones, Darnell Dinkins, Seth Mckinney, Daven Holly
FA Signings
Stacy Andrews OT Cinci
Gives us a younger experienced OT to Replace Schaffer and compete
or take over for tucker
Dunta Robinson CB Hou
Former first rounder. Has talent, not shutdown but very serviciable
and won't break our bank.
Chris Simms QB Ten
Vet Qb has starting experience but does he want a chance to start again?
I'm sure he does but would he be willing to come here as an apparent
backup? If not Then we could explore other options.
Michael Jenkins WR Atl
Big tall physical receiver that hasn't had the greatest of QB's to work
with until recently. Has talent might just need a change of scenery.
Could be our replacement for J.J.
Jake Grove C Oak
Lets face it Fraley isn't getting any younger. Grove is a pretty talented
center that has absolutely no help in Oakland. I'm sure by the time FA
begins he's gonna be quoting the "mista mista" lady. As in "GET ME OUTTA HERE!"
Draft
1st- Rey Maualuga ILB USC
He's a machine don't think I need to explain this one.
2nd- B.J Raji NT Boston College
Great at clogging run lanes an occupying blockers. Puts Rogers outside
where he can be more effective.
3rd- Brandon Graham DE/OLB Michigan
This is probably a Pipe dream cause he could very well go alot higher than
this if he declares. But the guy would be an absolute perfect fit here, and
could quite possibly develop into a Merriman type of linebacker. I might even
take him with our second should he declare.
4th- Ryan Stanchek OG West Virginia
Has experience at T and G, has blocked for some great runners. Could start by mid year at guard imo.
5th- BPA
6th- BPA
7th- BPA
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Clutch, many things wrong in there.
1) You assume we can get a 3rd for DA
2) You assume we could get anything for Necktie
3) Michael Jenkins recently reupped with the Falcons for four more years.
and 4) I doubt we bring back Jones and Dinkins, but that is JMO there.
you had a good run Hank.
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I really do think we can get a 3rd for DA.
I think we could trade him for Bush at-the very least for Michael Bush. Which is all I really want out of the situation.
Wasn't aware he resigned, boo. Replace him with Reggie Williams for Jacksonville then.
I think we will try to bring back Jones and I like Dinkins for his blocking and special teams so I hope we re-sign him.
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I think we will try to bring back Jones and I like Dinkins for his blocking and special teams so I hope we re-sign him.
For the money that Jones will want, we could do better.
Dinkins is nothing more than a penalty on the kickoffs anymore, but if he is willing to take the NFL min, I wouldn't be upset.
you had a good run Hank.
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Herzlich is a stud. I have no idea what his measurables are but the guy is all over the field and makes plays. He could do without the Batman mask he paints on his face though...
Yeah he's pretty nutty, but then again he's a linebacker from BC LOL. He's probably a bit light for the Browns (he goes about 235 I believe), and is probably more of a Cover 2 guy.
I actually like their MLB, Mike McLaughlin a lot too. He's probably a bit less athletic, but he's a productive run stopper. He's well built too, 6'0 250 lbs.
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2nd- B.J Raji NT Boston College
Great at clogging run lanes an occupying blockers. Puts Rogers outside where he can be more effective.
Eh? Rogers be more effective? I'm notta sure thats possible. He's pretty darn effective where he is.. and I'd rather see him have a short straight line run than have to make it into the backfield with all his weight.
As far as a mock thread goes.. I'm more interested in the end of February right now.. Free Agency.
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I'm glad you brought Herzlich up. I have seen a few BC games this year and I like his play. Kinda of throwback mentality . . . If he declares, I don't know what round he'll fall but he may be worthy of a serious look by Savage.
Also, while talking about BC, I like Raji and Brace.
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I really like Terrance Cody. If he's there in the 2nd, I'm all over him. I don't know where he's projected, but I like Javon Ringer as well.
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Cody is going back to Bama for his senior year, which is a bummer. He could have slipped this year because of the injury and his inexperience. I love that guy, he's a beast at NT.
Ringer is up in the air...my guess is third round right now, but this RB class sucks, so he could be bumped up.
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Well my train of thought about moving Rogers to the outside is that he has the speed to play the position. And with having a hog in the middle occupying blockers Rogers might get to see more 1 on 1 matchups. Plus he has the speed to at-least have a better chance of sealing off the edge.
Plus Raji in his own right has the ability to get into the backfield. And to tell you the truth I think Rogers is more of a pass rushing big guy then a run stuffer. But I think the biggest thing is that moving him to the outside could also help to free up Wimbley or whoever we got rushing the passer.
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