DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Boldin Anyone? ( Maybe not, but who?)

Okay, the title of the thread was just to sort of "bait you in".

I've seen where people have sat and discussed who may be available in the FA market. But really? What makes you think so?

To be honest, I'm getting a little tired of seeing NOTHING BUT negative posts. I know we're all fuming. I know we're all tired of watching our team get beat up and losing. And I really think having a positive thread looking forward and doing a little prongnosticating may be a refreshing change of pace.

We all know that each team in the NFL has two options to try to retain a potential FA. One is the frachise tag. The other is something that I'm not that well versed at called the RFA tag. (restricted free agent)

I know the draft forum will not open up until after the SB like tradition has always been with Dawg Talk/Dawg Talkers. But think about it folks, the FA signing period comes before the draft. And from the history of Savage here, the FA signings will directly impact the draft. So as of right now, we have no idea of who Phil will get in the FA market. Which in turn leaves us NO CLUE of which direction we will go in the draft. So sitting here trying to speculate about the draft is a virtual impossibility until the FA signing period is over.

So the Boldin preface has no real credability. We can all feel pretty comfortable knowing that if all else fails, Zona will put the franchise tag on Boldin.

So here's what I'm proposing as a "change of pace" type thread. ( at least something different than negativity )

Let's collectively break down each team. See how many players (and who they are) from each NFL team are on the last year of their contracts.

ie......Zona will most certinly tag Boldin IMO, but if they tag him, who might Zona lose? Zona may have 4-7 players on the last year of their conract. Let's use six as an example. If so, they can franchise tag one, RFA one. Which would leave four that may hit the FA market.

And to further this, where are these teams in terms of cap space going into next year? Using Boldin s an example, maybe Zona is in such poor cap space, that maybe they could simply not afford to meet Boldins demands? ( Fitz does eat up a lot of cap space ) While I doubt that, the cap space of each NFL team gives us a good indicator of what teams may be in the market to compete with us in the FA market.

So that's my proposal here. Break down each NFL team. What players they have that are on the last year of their contracts. Who we feel each team will "tag" and who that leaves as FA's to choose from. And having those teams cap room will also enter into the equasion who they me FORCED to cut loose, even though they'd rather not.

Is that a lot of homework? Oh hell yes it is! But it may give us something positive to talk about, instead of just ranting about the state our team is right now.

If it sounds like an interesting proposal? Let's have at it! If not, let this thread die out and become a part of the archives.

JMHO

Suuuuure, I'll play...

Let's say.... I dunno.... Carolina.

Seen a lot of drops from Boldin - Is he of the same cloth as BE???

Roy Williams I would have loved but the Cowboys got him.

But lets face it any WR would come at a high cost via trade or FA that is a STUD!

Best get one or more through the draft. We are heading in a 3 year draft era of some absolute studs coming up the ranks and I don't see any let up as so many college teams have gone to a spread offense and utilize the passing game like no college eras before.

It seems like most Top 20 schools have incredible WRs...several who are Freshman that are outstanding.

Its a position I think we can get into the draft. And not half assed the way we went and got Wilson - I think we were tired and just grabbed a high skilled guy on our board. We don't have to go for the HRs...kids who were very good at Jr. or Soph. but had an injury or change at QB and have them drop in the draft...we can get a good WR out there if we just search for one as a priority. Even in the 2nd day of the draft.

JMHO

from kffl


Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Kurt Warner UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
RB J.J. Arrington UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
FB Tim Castille ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
FB Terrelle Smith UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
TE Ben Patrick ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
TE Leonard Pope RFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
TE Stephen Spach UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
C Lyle Sendlein ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
DL Bertrand Berry UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
DL Ray Blagman ERFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
DL Gabe Watson RFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
LB Monty Beisel UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent

Atlanta Falcons
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Jason Snelling UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OG Harvey Dahl UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
C Ben Wilkerson UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OL Renardo Foster UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
DL Jonathan Babineaux UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
CB Brent Grimes UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
CB Antoine Harris ERFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
SS Lawyer Milloy UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent

Baltimore Ravens
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Kyle Boller UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
RB P.J. Daniels RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
WR Demetrius Williams RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
TE Quinn Sypniewski RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
TE Daniel Wilcox UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
PK Matt Stover UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
P Sam Koch RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
DL Dwan Edwards UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
LB Dan Cody UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
LB Ray Lewis UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
LB Bart Scott UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
CB Corey Ivy UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
CB Derrick Martin RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
SS Dawan Landry RFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent

Buffalo Bills
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
WR Roscoe Parrish UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
TE Kevin Everett UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
LB Kevin Harrison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent

Carolina Panthers
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
WR Dominique Thompson UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
TE Jeff King RFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
PK John Kasay UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
OT Frank Omiyale UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
DL Julius Peppers UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
LB James Anderson RFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
LB Jason Kyle UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
CB Chris Gamble UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent

Chicago Bears
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Rex Grossman UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
QB Kyle Orton UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
TE Desmond Clark UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
PK Robbie Gould UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
OT John St. Clair UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
DL Tommie Harris UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
LB Darrell McClover UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
LB Nick Roach ERFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
LB Rod Wilson UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
SS Mike Brown UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
SS Josh Gattis ERFA Chicago Bears Free Agent

Cincinnati Bengals
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB DeDe Dorsey RFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
RB Quincy Wilson UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
FB Daniel Coats ERFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
PK Shayne Graham UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
DL John Thornton UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
DL Jimmy Verdon RFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
CB Brandon Williams UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
SS Kyries Hebert UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent

Cleveland Browns
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Jason Wright UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
TE Darnell Dinkins UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
OG Seth McKinney UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
DL Louis Leonard ERFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
LB Willie McGinest UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
CB Travis Daniels UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
CB Daven Holly UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
SS Sean Jones UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
FS Mike Adams UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent

Dallas Cowboys
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
WR Miles Austin RFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
WR Sam Hurd RFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
WR Terrell Owens UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
OT Marc Colombo UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
DL Tank Johnson UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
LB Zach Thomas UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent

Denver Broncos
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Patrick Ramsey UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
RB Andre Hall ERFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
C Tom Nalen UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
DL Kenny Peterson UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
LB Kenard Lang UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
LB Nate Webster UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
CB Lamont Reid UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent

Detroit Lions
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Kevin Jones UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
WR Shaun McDonald UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
PK Jason Hanson UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OG Blaine Saipaia UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OT George Foster UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
DL Shaun Cody UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
LB Anthony Cannon RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
LB Paris Lenon UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
CB Ramzee Robinson ERFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
FS Patrick Body UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent

Green Bay Packers
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
FB Ryan Powdrell ERFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
WR Shaun Bodiford RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Mark Tauscher UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OL Tony Palmer RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
DL Jason Hunter RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
DL Mike Montgomery UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
LB Michael Hawkes UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
LB Brady Poppinga UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
CB Jarrett Bush RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
CB Tramon Williams ERFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent

Houston Texans
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Jordan Black UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Mike Brisiel ERFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Chris L. White UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
C Bryan Pittman UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OL Rashad Butler RFA Houston Texans Free Agent
DL Jeff Zgonina UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
CB Demarcus Faggins UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
CB Dunta Robinson UFA Houston Texans Free Agent

Indianapolis Colts
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OT Dan Federkeil RFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
C Jeff Saturday UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
LB Tyjuan Hagler UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
CB Kelvin Hayden UFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent

Jacksonville Jaguars
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB David Garrard UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OT Richard Collier RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
C Brad Meester UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
C Joe Zelenka UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
DL Tony McDaniel RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
DL Rob Meier UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
DL Paul Spicer UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
LB Brian Iwuh RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
LB Mike Peterson UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
CB Scott Starks UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent

Kansas City Chiefs
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
WR Rod Gardner UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
WR Maurice Price RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
WR Jeff Webb RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
OT Adrian Jones UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
LB Pat Thomas UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
CB Tyron Brackenridge RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
CB Dimitri Patterson RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
SS Jon McGraw UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
FS Jarrad Page RFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent

Miami Dolphins
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Ricky Williams UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
TE Aaron Halterman UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
OT Vernon Carey UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
LB Channing Crowder UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
LB Quentin Moses ERFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
LB Mark Washington ERFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
CB Andre' Goodman UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
FS Renaldo Hill UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent

Minnesota Vikings
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Naufahu Tahi RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
TE Jim Kleinsasser UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
C Matt Birk UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Fred Evans RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Otis Grigsby RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Jayme Mitchell RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
DL Kenechi Udeze UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
CB Charles Gordon RFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
SS Darren Sharper UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent

New England Patriots
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Matt Cassel UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
FB Heath Evans UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
WR Jabar Gaffney UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
P Chris Hanson UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
OG Russ Hochstein UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
C Lonie Paxton UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
LB Ryan Claridge UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
LB Larry Izzo UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
SS Rodney Harrison UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
SS James Sanders UFA New England Patriots Free Agent

New Orleans Saints
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Aaron Stecker UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
WR Marques Colston RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
WR Devery Henderson UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
WR Lance Moore UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
TE Mark Campbell UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Jon Stinchcomb UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OL Jahri Evans RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OL Zach Strief RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
DL Antwan Lake UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
LB Troy Evans UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
LB Marvin Mitchell RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
LB Jonathan Vilma UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
SS Chris Reis RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent

New York Giants
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Anthony Wright UFA New York Giants Free Agent
RB Brandon Jacobs UFA New York Giants Free Agent
RB Danny Ware RFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Amani Toomer UFA New York Giants Free Agent
C Grey Ruegamer UFA New York Giants Free Agent
DL Michael Strahan UFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB Kevin Dockery RFA New York Giants Free Agent
CB R.W. McQuarters UFA New York Giants Free Agent

New York Jets
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Jesse Chatman UFA New York Jets Free Agent
WR Wallace Wright RFA New York Jets Free Agent
TE Joe Kowalewski RFA New York Jets Free Agent
PK Mike Nugent UFA New York Jets Free Agent
DL C.J. Mosley UFA New York Jets Free Agent
LB Eric Barton UFA New York Jets Free Agent
LB Marques Murrell RFA New York Jets Free Agent
LB Cody Spencer UFA New York Jets Free Agent
SS Abram Elam UFA New York Jets Free Agent
SS Kerry Rhodes UFA New York Jets Free Agent

Oakland Raiders
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
WR Johnnie Morant UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
TE Tony Stewart UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
P Shane Lechler UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Cooper Carlisle UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OL Chris Morris RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
LB Sam Williams UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
CB Nnamdi Asomugha UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
CB Justin Miller UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
CB Duane Starks UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
FS Rashad Baker UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent

Philadelphia Eagles
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Correll Buckhalter UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
WR Hank Baskett RFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OT Jon Runyan UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OT Tra Thomas UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
C Nick Cole RFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
LB Pago Togafau RFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
CB Bruce Perry UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
SS Sean Considine UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
FS Brian Dawkins UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent

Pittsburgh Steelers
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Charlie Batch UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
FB Carey Davis RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
WR Cedrick Wilson UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
TE Jon Dekker RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT Willie Colon RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT Marvel Smith UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
LB James Farrior UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
LB Clint Kriewaldt UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
CB Bryant McFadden UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
FS Anthony Madison RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
FS Anthony Smith RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
ST Jared Retkofsky UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent

San Diego Chargers
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
RB Darren Sproles UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
OG Mike Goff UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
C David Binn UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
LB Jyles Tucker RFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent

San Francisco 49ers
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB J.T. O'Sullivan UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
FB Zak Keasey RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Eric Heitmann UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Tony Wragge RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OL Damane Duckett UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
DL Ronald Fields UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
CB Allen Rossum UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent

Seattle Seahawks
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Charlie Frye UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
RB Maurice Morris UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
WR Bobby Engram UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
WR Ben Obomanu RFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
TE Will Heller UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
TE Itula Mili UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
PK Tyler Jones UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Chris Gray UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OT Ray Willis UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
DL Howard Green UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
DL Marcus Tubbs UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
LB LeRoy Hill UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
CB Kevin Hobbs RFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
FS C.J. Wallace RFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent

St. Louis Rams
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Brock Berlin RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
RB Steven Jackson UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
FB Richard Owens UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Dante' Hall UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Dane Looker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
TE Dominique Byrd RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OG Richie Incognito UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OG Mark Setterstrom RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
DL Victor Adeyanju RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
DL La'Roi Glover UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
DL Eric M. Moore UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
CB Ron Bartell UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Bruce Eugene RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Jeff Garcia UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
QB Luke McCown UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
FB B.J. Askew UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
FB Byron Storer RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
OT Anthony Davis UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
DL Kevin Carter UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
DL Ryan Sims UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
LB Sam Olajubutu RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
CB Phillip Buchanon UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
SS Jermaine Phillips UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
FS Will Allen UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent

Tennessee Titans
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Kerry Collins UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Brandon Jones UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Mike Williams UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
P Craig Hentrich UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
OT Mike Otto RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Kevin Vickerson UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Colin Allred RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Jorge Cordova UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
CB Cortland Finnegan RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
CB Eric King UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent

Washington Redskins
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OG Pete Kendall UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
DL Demetric Evans UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
DL Kedric Golston RFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
DL Anthony Montgomery RFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
LB Khary Campbell UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
SS Reed Doughty RFA Washington Redskins Free Agent

Not accurate. Many players on there have signed extensions.

And FTR Boldin is a Free Agent NEXT year.

Dang, I wonder what Arizona is going to do with Kurt Warner. They can't let him walk for nothing and if they sign him longterm, what does that mean for USC-boy? Tough decision for the Cards.

Yeah, like I said, Boldin was the bait to get people to open the thread. That goes for you too Tabber.



And it was great that captal came up with that list. That would have really helped break things down the way I would have liked to.

But I guess it's outdated.

Is Warner going to retire at the end of the year, b/c of the Boldin injury? If not... the answer is simple. Sign Warner AGAIN, for like a 3 year contract. Leinart is fine on the bench.

Well the only FA WR I would pursue on that list is Austin of the Cowboys...I think he has some skills not seen yet. My son is a Cowboy fan so I get to see them a lot.

A couple from the Saints...but I think we are talking about overpayment on some...including TO.

But for me it would be a relatively Unknown like Austin who needs that Chance to show his skills that is what I would like to see us go for in the FA market - cause any considered a STUD would be WAAAYYYYY Over paid.

Draft...I said it before and I'll say it again. Anyone who has Excellent Hands, Runs good routes and is willing to Block...draft them...even if they have 4.6 speed.

JMHO

Well Tabber, sometimes, even though I try my best, my message is not NEARLY clear enough. And I guess this is a prime example. And it looks like the Boldin Refrance was my downfall in this case.



I did not intend on focusing on the WR position.

My intension was to break each NFL team down into the players whose contract ends this season. Then, try to guesstimate which of those players each team will most likely "tag" with the franchise tag or the RFA tag.

Then we would be left with a list of likely players that may hit the FA market.

ie.......A team may have a GREAT LB that it would really LOVE to tag. BUT, if they have to tag their LT and a RB (or other position), and aren't in the cap situation, that LBer may hit the FA market anyway.

That's why I believe you need the cap info and a list of all players broken down team by team whose contract will be up at seasons end to try to formulate that.

And as a result, we can look at LBer's, CB's, S and yes, WR's too. I didn't intend on focusing on the WR position. But more where we might be able to fill positions of need through the FA market.

But without seeing whose contracts expire at seasons end broke down team by team, and each teams cap space, it's very hard to gauge who might or who might not be out there in the FA market IMO

Sorry...most of us just look at the pictures....

Boldin is still under contract to the Cards, so no need to tag or worry about him. He's going to be traded or be unhappy being a Cardinal.

That list is way off it needs to be updated, don't use this list as your measuring stick for players available because people such as Chris Gamble have already signed extensions.

I have a few things I'd like to see done..

Pick a New Head Coach who hopefully will bring in a new DC.. I'm still not sure if it's Chud or RAC that is holding up the progress of the Offense. Just not sure. But it's it's Chud, then he's got to go also.

I'd like to see a top flight receiver added and I'd like to see someone get inside Braylons Head and figure out what the hell is going on in there. The kid had the ability,, I can't figure out what the heck happened to him this year..

We are deep at TE and I fear that KW2 is too much of a distraction, I wouldn't mind seeing him go away in a trade. Perhaps we can get something for him around draft time.

We need new LB's across the board with the exception of DQ and this young kid, Hall.. Not saying Hall is all that and a bag of chips, but with limited playing time this year, he's done pretty well.. I wonder whatelse he has to offer up.

I want the new regime to focus on LB's in the draft... Don't care if we are going 4-3 or 3-4. Find the right guys.

*(just a question, if we switch to a 4-3, does anyone think that wimbly could man one outside spot, Hall the other and DQ in the middle, does anyone think that might work)

WE'll need to find a replacement for Jones cause I don't think we'll resign him. Adams needs resigned I think...

I'm ok with our CB's as long as we get D. Holly back in good health.. Maybe add one more.

No need to add to Dline., They just need to remain healthy.

And for gods sake, someone pick a QB and STICK WITH HIM.

Find us a running back other than Jamal Lewis.. I love his attitude, but I'm getting the feeling that he's done.. either that or we have a bigger problem on the Oline than I think.

A big dose of Harrison would be nice assuming he's healthy (the announcers said that he banged up his ribs yesterday,, haven't heard anything else about it however)

But we need another big back to go with him,, How about that Brandon Jacobs kid from the Giants. At 6-4, 264 lbs and only 26 years old, he could be a perfect fit. Now throw a guy like Harrison in there and teams will wonder what hit them.

I love our FB's.. Ali and Vickers have skills and I don't think a change is needed there.

RT is a hole.. Hopefully Tucker returns but even if he does, he's getting a little long in the tooth.. we have to find a guy that can take over for him.. I'm afraid Shaffer isn't it. Not if we want to keep whatever QB we use alive that is.

Speaking of the Oline, Depth is weak..

All in all, we have the basic foundation for a good team.. not like when RAC and Savage got here... (man, did we suck or what)

Man, I'm trying to stay positive. After yestersdays game and my current hangover caused by my use of booze to forget yesterdays game,, It's difficult to find the positive in any of this..

But it's there,, I just know it is.. I'm going to click my heels together three times and I'll be wisked off to football nirvana!

I'm so with you on Winslow. He just is not an AFC North TE...

Question is, what is his value? Is there a way to get a first day pick for him? I would be more than content with round 3, I just don't know how possible it is...

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Question is, what is his value? Is there a way to get a first day pick for him? I would be more than content with round 3, I just don't know how possible it is...

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I've never really been good at guessing the worth of a player on the open market... But if we put out the feelers, we'll get an idea pretty quick.

To be honest, if we can't get a 1st day pick, then I'd keep him.. But as far as a new contract,, no, I don't think so.

Maybe I misunderstood what dawgs were doing...but I figured people were supposed to do individual teams...

Hence...the Carolina Panthers

WR Dominique Thompson
TE Jeff King
PK John Kasay
OT Frank Omiyale
DL Julius Peppers
LB James Anderson
LB Jason Kyle
CB Chris Gamble


The Blue Chips

Two names obviously stand out for the Panthers…. CB Chris Gamble and DE Julius Peppers.

Chris Gamble has steadily progressed since being a first round pick in 2003. He’s a corner with good size and plays heady football. Ideally, he’d be a great FA pick up for a secondary starved Browns. Unfortunately however, Gamble was recently resigned to a long term and very LARGE contract by the panthers (6yr, 54 million).

So we’re out of luck there right? Well, perhaps not.

There’s already noise that with Gamble, Ken Lucas and Richard Marshall in the fold; the Panthers have 3 starting quality CBs. With Lucas having a very high cap number this year and hitting the ripe ol’ age of 30, there’s some speculation he may be cut loose or extended as trade bait.

Julius Peppers looks to be a no-brainer as either a franchise tag or being locked up long term before the offseason. Back into form with 11 sacks in 12 games, he’s a dominant pass rusher. Even if he were to become available, he’s too light in the pants to play DE for us anyways in our 3-4 alignment.

The Rest

OT Frank Omiyale got one start this year but all scouting reports on the guy scream left tackle and not the brute that we need on our right side to perhaps replace Shaff.

We need better receiving options but Dominque Thompson doesn’t look like he’s still on the roster….so I doubt if he’s it.

Neither of the LBs look like solutions for us. We’ve got 2 solid TEs already so King, although decent, isn’t needed. And I don’t think anyone is looking to jettison Dawson with the year he’s had.

All in all

I doubt if the Panthers have anything to offer us FA wise. If Lucas could be had, I’d grab at him in exchange for a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Not nitpicking, but as I understand it the Panthers would take a huge hit to release Lucas, so they are probably just going to let Richard Marshall walk. He's a talented player, no doubt, but he's going to want huge money. Think similar scenario to Rod Hood a few years ago, but with way more cash involved.

Good info BigC... the sources on the net I had found seemed to lean more toward Lucas getting walking papers. But if there's a huge cap hit there, maybe you're right... unless they could trade him, as then the prorated signing bonus gets transferred to the new team, correct?

BUT if you're right and Marshall gets released, all the better...younger player, has already been groomed as a nickelback and ready to make the leap to starter.

Would likely be better for us long term.

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unless they could trade him, as then the prorated signing bonus gets transferred to the new team, correct?

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Team trading the player takes the entire hit...

"*(just a question, if we switch to a 4-3, does anyone think that wimbly could man one outside spot, Hall the other and DQ in the middle, does anyone think that might work)


No, No and No..
No#1...Wimbley would be too light, if he was an extraordinary pass rusher I say we keep him in as a pass rush specialist on passing downs...but right now I'd have to say no to even that.

No#2...Hall actually that could become a Maybe...BUTT he would have to gain weight but he has the frame to do so and come in somewhere 270-280.

No#3...DQ, if there is one part of the game DQ does struggle with Interior OLmen and I'm not quite sure if he has ideal sideline to sideline speed. I thought he would make an ideal Will LB (but my Yang would differ ) who tend to be a little less in size and have good coverage skills which DQ is developing.

Pittdawg...lol still too many pictures I see...lol I'll get it started.

I could see Warner, QB Cards
Bart Scott, LB Ravens
Colombo, RT Dallas
Garrard, QB Jags
Brandon Jacobs, RB Giants
Steven Jackson, RB RAMS...Can he??? I think he signed. as well as probably others listed.

But if I had to make a short list of Maybe's to be Tagged...that would be it.

I'd say Whosyourmama but Brown is so cheap no way he pays avg of top 5.

Ray Lewis...doubt he'd be tagged.

JMHO

This lil' diddy is pretty accurate...With some explanations...WAY too long to paste..

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL+Zone/Team+Reports/default.htm?mode=afceast

One Franchise Tag and Two Transition Tags available to teams...

Man u can make it difficult...

It's way 2 hard to figure cap right now...And even harder to figure who will Tag who...

Lotsa teams have megabucks with this cap thing the way it is...

Dansby I believe has a clause to where he CANNOT be Franchised a 2nd year in a row,...To me this goes against the CBA which says one player CAN BE Tagged twice in a row...Oh well...Will Zona scoff at Dansby bucks like they did Pace???

Dansby may become available and will be the upper cream...

Who'syomomma...U want a bonafide #2 to replace Stallworth with STUD HANDS???....Here's our dude...He may just want out of Cincy with all the riff-raff that goes on down there...Problem is how long of a deal does his agent want at 32???...3 solid years may be what u get...I TAKE IT...

You hit the nail EXACTLY on the head in what I was looking for Canada!



It's quite a daunting task, no doubt. But IMO, it beats the hell out of sitting around complaining in thread after thread.

And it would make for a great thread and quite a mind excercise in wading through the possibilities IMO.

Thanks Canada! And if it catches on, maybe we can begin to look forward a little bit. I can't see how 15 threads complaining about everything can have any positive effect. Accept to vent.

JMHO

Eo, I think Daman (and correct me if I'm wrong) meant to say have Hall and Wimbley at both of the outside linebacker spots in the 4-3.

That's exactly what I meant,,,, not sure why EO didn't catch that..

So, it would look like this: Hall, DQ, Wimbley

I think eo's take that Wimbley is too small makes little sense in this case...

"Where did you get your information from that makes you think he is of the same cloth as Edwards?"

Well I apologize for making my own opinion without reading somebody else stating it.

I think I've seen about 3 games...or at least a good portion of their game over the last 8 weeks or so. I know he had an Injury Boldin and came back. Well all these games I've watch have been after his injury.

I don't go to any Elias stat place...nor do I search articles on Boldin. Boldin has dropped a lot of passes from what I have seen and all is after the injury. In this way I'm not biased on his previous reputation - just he has dropped a lot which stood out.

I also think a lot of BE's problems stemmed from his injury and then coming back in Game 1 without much preparation and then the season snow balled.

Even though BE had a reputation of the Bad with the Good prior to this season. Frankly I don't know Boldin's reputation nor will let it influence me. But I think you might be looking at him with the eyes of a predetermined opinion and not from the present. Does BE go back to form? Does Boldin? That is what I'm saying...it has been more than one game recently.

JMHO

I form my opinions by watching football. I have the NFL package and I've enjoyed watching Arizona for the past few years. My opinion is not predetermined but based off of fact. I don't go shooting off opinions about players I know nothing about. I think in doing so I would come across as a someone that creates false statements to support my opinion. Boldin has had 1 bad game where he had some drops and that was on Thanksgiving. He also got hit hard early on which could be why he had trouble focussing from that point on. His present (this year) has him playing at the highest level for any WR.

Didn't he have a pretty big injury this year???

And in your opinion has he been the same WR upon his return.

I know I have seen more than one game recently...and yes I have the Ticket as well.

So its not National TV games or none at all. They usually play at 4 - those time slots that don't involve the Browns...I take one game as my primary and then surf to one or two others during TO's and things of that nature. At 4 there aren't many games to choose from - so I've seen a bit of Zona not cause I like them or anything but they've had some interesting games. Maybe it was games against better defenses that I watched???? All I know is the impression I got is that he's dropped passes recently and more than one game.

Maybe not as prevalent as I took from what I saw...but my thought process is bad Injury...now drops? is this a trend and something he'll have to get over. The drops are so mental more than simply...he has hands.

And it can happen over night almost. That is all I'm suggesting and referring to in a BE comparison. What BE is doing now is just over and beyond drops and to me it started with his injury and built up from there.

Good for you...watching and evaluating better than looking up stats.

"His present (this year) has him playing at the highest level for any WR."

Sorry I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here...you saying he's the best in the NFL??? I know he's been great in the RedZone cause he has a TE body and WR moves to get position on Defenders.

My question to you is...cause I think you've watched him more than I.

There was an Injury? Right, my memory on that isn't wrong?

Since he came back is he dropping more passes???

Or did I just see the exceptions to the rule regarding him?

He got a concussion late in the game against the Jets on a cheap helmet to helmet shot (look it up on utube..it was nasty) and was out 2 games afterwards. He came back and scored 5 tds in the next three games however. Yes I believe he is one of the best WRs in the game. His great hands, toughness, route running and ability to make great catches in tight coverage due to his size gives him the total package.

His drops against the Eagles I personally believe was from an early hit in the game that might have rattled him. Prior to the game he caught 24 combined balls in the previous two games. When he plays 16 games he is pretty much a 100 catch player.

FYI Boldin also has reached 400 receptions faster than any other player in NFL history.

after reading that article i don't see how ariz could possibly let boldin go. he's just too good.
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hopefully that means they won't be able to sign one or two of the other guys we want.

Pit...and MDbites...guess I was wrong about the Boldin thing with drops.

Must of been the one game that took over that thought process...My Bad on being incorrect.

Two things.
1. the article stated he's signed till 2010...so how did he get on this FA list and discussion anyways?
2. I hope the ONE game process won't open a can of worms. MDBites, you mentioned he got hit earlier in the game and then the drops came. Will teams see that as a possible Game Plan...Hit him in the mouth early and shake him up. The injury has to have a mental effect. Hopefully I wasn't Prophetic in my thought process.

Well thanks for setting me straight on that....rather be wrong and corrected than ignorant

JMHO