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Eric Mangini is out as head coach of the New York Jets, 1050 ESPN Radio and various other New York media outlets are reporting. Mangini and the Jets missed out on the playoffs after losing to Miami on Sunday. The Jets lost four of their last five games to finish 9-7. Jets owner Woody Johnson and general manager Mike Tannenbaum will appear at a 10 a.m. ET news conference. Mangini is not expected to attend. Mangini, 37, was 23-26 in three seasons with the Jets, including 0-1 in the playoffs. The Jets acquired Brett Favre before the season started and ran off to an 8-3 start. But losses to Denver, at San Francisco, at Seattle and Sunday to the Dolphins left New York on the outside of the playoffs for the second straight season. 1050 ESPN Radio's Andrew Marchand contributed to this report link
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Wow... Are u serious??
Funny how one year can make or break you.
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right.. I thought he deserved at least one more year. The Jets were playing real well earlier this season
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Not paying much attention to the Jets, did this guy make so many boneheaded calls that he's going to get let go after a winning season?
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I think it was one of those issue's like Wade Phillips has in Dallas,. play-off or find another job?? I dont know?>?
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Yeah, but Phillips will be back next year.
Like I said, not following the team, maybe this was common knowledge. I knew he was kind of on the hot seat, but I never understood why.
Maybe they're going to make Favre player/coach?
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They lost to some bad teams 4 out of the last 5 games, and he couldn't win at all down the stretch, and them team was awful last year, so it seem only obvious that they would let him go.
Plus Brett Favre didn't like him.
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Should Lerner call Mangini up?
Mangini doesn't bring that fire either that some of you want... So I guess not.
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we gotta get this........ah nevermind i just want to win i dont care what our coaches name is!!!
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Wow... I sure hope they didn't can Mangini because the word on the street was that Brett Favre didn't really enjoy playing for him (probably because he actually wanted to hold the diva accountable for all those "huh, are you SERIOUS?" throws). This one kinda surprised me. 
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I have no desire for Mangini here, he will be a coordinator somewhere.
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Marinelli in Detroit is out also..... Quote:
Schefter: Marinelli out in Detroit after 0-16 season
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Rod Marinelli has been fired as head coach of the winless Detroit Lions, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter.
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The Lions became the first team in NFL history to finish 0-16 with a 31-21 loss to Green Bay on Sunday. They have lost 17 straight dating back to last season and now must wait nine months for another chance to avoid the slow climb closer to the 26-game losing streak the expansion Buccaneers reached by 1977. And they will go forward with a new coach.
Despite all the losses, the Lions' season never really devolved into finger-pointing. But Marinelli knows the record is the only thing that really matters.
Marinelli did not discuss his iffy future after Sunday's game. He has gone 10-38 in three seasons and his fate had not been announced, but team owner William Clay Ford has decided the leaders of the front office, Martin Mayhew and Tom Lewand, will be back in some capacity.
"The Fords will deal with it and the players will roll with it," said tackle Jeff Backus, who has been with the team through former general manager Matt Millen's era, which began in 2001 and ended earlier this year.
Marinelli was hired by the Lions in 2006 after serving 10 seasons as a defensive assistant in Tampa bay. He was the fourth head coach of Millen's eight-year tenure running the Lions.
The Lions also fired their defensive staff and everyone on the offensive staff except running backs coach Sam Gash and wide receivers coach Shawn Jefferson.
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Mangini might be a guy that I would look at. I always thought he did pretty well on a team that wasn't uber-talented. He also runs a 3/4 defense, which will speed up our transition by a year or so.
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No surprise about Marinelli, although he was put in one horrible position with Millen as GM. It's hard to get crap to win games.
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Not paying much attention to the Jets, did this guy make so many boneheaded calls that he's going to get let go after a winning season?
Favre in December had 2 TDs and 8 INTs and a QB rating of 53... Their defense also seemed to struggle down the stretch, not sure if they had any major injuries or not though...
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Favre is either feast or famine tho......you cant put that on mangini. he has always been that type of QB
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Yeah, I agree,, Marinelli has a tough road ahead of him....
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I think Favre hit the senior citizens wall. 
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Mangini doesn't bring that fire either that some of you want... So I guess not.
Uhhhh, this sounds like a poor choice. Why would he possibly hire Mangini? He only has 3 years experience as a HC and has a LOSING record. 23-25 for the regular season and 0-1 for the post season. BOO!
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He just went into retirement around mid-November to give him more time to refresh and be ready to come out of retirement again in time for next year's training camp. 
So nice to see Pennington stick it to the Jets as well, and take Miami to the playoffs ... while Farve was busy "gunslinging" the Jets out of it. 
Cue 6 more months of media worship while Brett contemplates his "future". *puking smiley*
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Favre can't hold the Jets hostage, because he is no legacy to them...
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But it's Brett Favre!!!!!! You cant do that to him!!!!  
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Perhaps he could be brought into for an interview if we're able to snag Pioli. If not for HC he'd certainly be a welcome addition at DC.
The thing that remains to be seen is if he's a Belichick (moderate failure at one location and insane success the next time around) or Crennel (in over his head).
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i doubt it given how much bad blood mangini has with the patriots organization. i remember all the speculation after spygate that mangini could not be a hc again because it was felt mangini was a huge backstaber.
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Looking at Mangini's track record, why NOT?
I don't know who you credit for what during his HC stint with the Jets, him or GM Tennenbaum, but look at the talent brought on under HIS watch. He took mediocrity and out of his three years, which is not enough time to turn things around, had TWO winning seasons. The NY media just happens to be nastier, with even more short-sighted fans than we have here...
As far as talent, look at what he has brought in via the draft...
2006: In round one, he immediately upgraded his offensive line by drafting D-Brickashaw Fergusen and Nick Mangold. O-line there, with more depth to be added, is sitting pretty. Round 2 they draft Kellen Clemons, not a horrible move, but not necessarily panning out just yet, time could tell there... Late rounds though, they get Brad Smith (gadget play WR) and speedster RB Leon Washington... That's quite a few good pieces in one draft, it's a success...
2007: They only had four picks, but they got a shutdown corner in Darrelle Revis, and a starting quality MLB in David Harris (Revis R1, Harris R2)
Also of note, WR Chanzi Stuckey was plucked in R7.. and has seen significant playing time...
2008: Jury's out on Vern Gholston, but no one will hold it against them for this pick, as he needs time to pan out. Also in this draft they got dynamic pass-catching TE Dustin Keller, and then in R4 they got Dwight Lowry, who will start when Ty Law is out...
Otherwise, some of their Free Agent acquisitions have been solid, like Pace, Faneca, Law, Kris Jenkins, Thomas Jones, Bubba Franks, and whatnot...
Long story short, that team is in MUCH better shape than when he inherited it.. it has decent talent now, though is still a few pieces away. I don't know if it was his or Tennenbaum's move to have Favre brought in, but I don't think that move has been a success as you can see the tension between the HC and QB, and Mangini having a heart-attack on the sidelines because of #4's arrogant, poor decision-making... I bet Mangini was content with Pennington and is not at fault in New York..
Face it, the guy has won with minimal weapons, has shown the IQ to draft well, comes from a good coaching tree (Don't site Weis and Crennel as reasons not to pull the trigger), is a guy who understands quality defense (which is imperative), and is someone I feel is a good fit for the job, particularly with a competent, cooperative GM like Pioli if it falls through, so they can get players that work within the scheme together and be ON THE SAME PAGE, which is something Crennel and Savage weren't....
All in all, this Pioli/Mangini mixed drink would get us higher than we are now. I find it would be a good recipe for success, although not the ONLY one available....
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opie...Assuming your speaking about Mangini becoming the Browns HC or DC should Pioli be hired as the Browns new GM, I've read that the spy-gate thing between Mangini and Belichick is not favorable for Mangini as far as future relationships with the NE staff, ie, Pioli.
I would not hold my breath to Mangini being hired by Pioli or brought back to NE in any capacity.
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Certainly didn't have the number of spineless kneeldowns we did. Maybe too many FGs rather than TDs? I think this is way premature.
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I hadn't thought of that, and now that you mention it I could definitely see it becoming an issue.
I have faith though that pioli would be capable of setting it to the side if Mangini were the clear-cut best man for the job.
Winning comes over everything, but like I said, this would be an ordeal that would require some major ironing out.
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have faith though that pioli would be capable of setting it to the side if Mangini were the clear-cut best man for the job.
Winning comes over everything, but like I said, this would be an ordeal that would require some major ironing out.
Lerner wont take a chance at something like this, He has to get it right this time, We fans dont deserve to have a wait & see if they work toghter, the next pair who comes in have to be able to work together, both must be able to put thier Ego's aside and work for whats best for the team and not to have power over the other. Lerner wont take that chance, if there is any possible squable I think that person will not be hired.
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The bottom line, if Pioli would be the Browns choice as GM, he's not going to hire someone who has already breached his trust, which is what many in NE believe Mangini did in the spy gate situation.
Pioli would want to bring in his guy..a guy he knows well and can trust...a guy who can do the job and fill the needs of the Browns organization.
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Then why are we interested in interviewing Mangini?
Pioli will want to succeed. And what makes you think Pioli wasn't appauled by Billichek DOING the spygate thing?
For all you know, Mangini may BE Pioli's first choice. Pioli may have already let the Browns know he's interested. The meeting MAY just be about negotiating the deal.
Just the fact Pioli wants or considers leaving NE may be a sign he's done with Billichek too.
One never knows.............
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I've read that the spy-gate thing between Mangini and Belichick is not favorable for Mangini as far as future relationships with the NE staff, ie, Pioli.
Where did you read that? Is it that strong of an issue that they couldn't work together? I know Billchek snubbed him, but I didn't realize the whole organization held a strong grudge to this day. They did cheat, afterall.
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pitt...I have not seen one name mentioned that the Browns are not interested in so far. At this time, I believe the organization is using a shotgun approach, realizing we are in the early hours of a search for a HC and GM that could go on for some time.
No one is being eliminated at this time, unless they eliminate themselves such as Cowher did.
Face it, until we know who our GM is going to be, we won't know who the coaching candidates might be. It's all up in the air at this point and Lerner appears to be keeping every option open.
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Mangini crennel, Crennel Mangini...I just don't see that much of a difference twixt them.
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Has anything been said that Pioli is definitely coming for a visit? If so, when?
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I do see what your driving at Pit.. we simply don't know what the relationship between Pioli and Mangini is.... Not yet anyway.
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I've read that the spy-gate thing between Mangini and Belichick is not favorable for Mangini as far as future relationships with the NE staff, ie, Pioli.
Where did you read that? Is it that strong of an issue that they couldn't work together? I know Billchek snubbed him, but I didn't realize the whole organization held a strong grudge to this day. They did cheat, afterall.
jfan...It's common knowledge for all NFL fans that were watching that situation. Belichich was fined and the Pats lost a #1 draft pick as a result of the leagues investigation.
It was Mangini that supposedly blew the whistle on the Patriots.
You can read more about it here... web page
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I've read that the spy-gate thing between Mangini and Belichick is not favorable for Mangini as far as future relationships with the NE staff, ie, Pioli.
Where did you read that? Is it that strong of an issue that they couldn't work together? I know Billchek snubbed him, but I didn't realize the whole organization held a strong grudge to this day. They did cheat, afterall.
jfan...It's common knowledge for all NFL fans that were watching that situation. Belichich was fined and the Pats lost a #1 draft pick as a result of the leagues investigation.
It was Mangini that supposedly blew the whistle on the Patriots.
You can read more about it here... web page
Common knowledge that Belicheck and Mangini don't liek each other. You are linking Belicheck with the entire New England organization. There is no evidence that Pioli and Mangini don't like each other or that they couldn't work together. Pioli may not want to work with Mangini, but as of yet there is no evidence.
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I've read that the spy-gate thing between Mangini and Belichick is not favorable for Mangini as far as future relationships with the NE staff, ie, Pioli.
Where did you read that? Is it that strong of an issue that they couldn't work together? I know Billchek snubbed him, but I didn't realize the whole organization held a strong grudge to this day. They did cheat, afterall.
jfan...It's common knowledge for all NFL fans that were watching that situation. Belichich was fined and the Pats lost a #1 draft pick as a result of the leagues investigation.
It was Mangini that supposedly blew the whistle on the Patriots.
You can read more about it here... web page
That article just says what we all know. You said you read something directly related to the relationship between Mangini and the NE staff i.e. Pioli. Considering Lerner is interested in both, I'd like to see what you've read. Do you have a link?
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