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I thought that if Pioli comes, he will be bringing his head coach with him.....

I think this is what the delay on Scott is,....Lerner doesn't want Ferentz either,...I haven't read a single lone post, not one, that says getting Kirkie is a good idea.

I go Shanahan first. Too much bad hype on these college guys. If you would be counting on "the right assistants," then you have the wrong guy in the first place.

Good point.

Ive said before that I dont want a college coach. If it happens, I wouldnt be upset. But it could work. There has to be a reason Pioli likes him that much and we all know that he was Savages first selection if Ferentz wanted the job. They get paid to do this, so Im putting my blind faith in them, if they did go that direction. Between his college assistants then add in Romeo and/or Mangini, they have a good chance to succeed. Thats alot of football knowledge. I havnt been a huge fan of the 3-4 (at least add some 4-3 to it) but Ferentz knows the 3-4.

I wouldnt be upset if the Browns picked a head coach and switched to the 4-3 either. We have the players that can play in both defenses. Either way, LBs are needed.

Where would you put DQ. in 4-3 ???

doesn't his skill set serve well as a weakside backer, like lance briggs? then take the guy outta sc for inside linebacker and...put leon or kameron at the other position. or put wimbley at DE after he gains some weight.

If it's gonna be a college coach, it's gotta be Urban Meyer.

I think what I 'm trying to say is ; No matter a 3-4 or a Four - three , we still be trouble at LB !

I am not saying that you are wrong....However , Ferentz name has been mentioned and supported on this board in past seasons....Personally , I am pushing for McKay & Shanahan or Pioli & Shanahan....Under both situations Shanahan's main responsibility would be to coach the team.....

I'm just getting the feeling Kirk is a shoo-in now,....and I'm on the "NO college coach bandwagon."

Ferentz has previous Cleveland ties too.

i was thinking wimbley on the end as well.....wasnt that is natural position in college anyway?

Wimbley, Rodgers, WIlliams, and R.Smith sounds like a nice DL to me

get DQ to play olb, that usc kid(or ray lewis via FA to teach him) at ilb, and Willie as the other olb and i think we would be tuff as a 4-3

If pioli means hiring Kirk then Pioli can stay in NE

If you manage to get Lewis here to "train" The Luga, then I make Ray go outside before letting Willie even see the field. He is done.

He's my next LB coach though,......

offer him a one or two year deal loaded with incintives....he has a couple good years left in him....he would work with our LB and i think make a huge difference....Willie tore it up this year and will probly come back next year....i just wanted to get the experiance out there and let the young pups watch the big dogs eat and learn from them

Julius Peppers in fa.

i just hope whoever takes over isnt afraid to make the FA splash that savage used to do all the time.

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Pioli and Shanahan..SUPER BOWL!!!!

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I don't know about that Attack... Pioli must want to have full control in order to make a move,,,,, why would he leave otherwise.. and Shanahan is reported to want full control..

maybe it's just me, but that sounds like a recipe for disaster....

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Maybe a "bug in the ointment?"

Patriots' Pioli on clock with Browns?
by Mary Kay Cabot Thursday January 01, 2009, 4:08 AM

Scott Pioli interviewed for the Browns' GM job with Randy Lerner on Wednesday.


Patriots Vice President Scott Pioli has until today to decide whether or not to take the Browns job, the Boston Herald reported late Wednesday night, citing sources familiar with the negotiation. Browns owner Randy Lerner interviewed Pioli Wednesday in New York and they parted without a deal, but with Pioli on the clock.
The Herald, according to one source, said some Browns insiders felt Pioli's demands were so high that perhaps he didn't really want to leave New England.

Pioli has also received permission to interview with the Kansas City Chiefs, and originally intended to go through with that interview, a source told the Plain Dealer. The Browns, meanwhile, were scheduled to meet with Falcons President Rich McKay today. If both of those interviews takes place, it could spell the end for Pioli and the Browns.


Several other factors have come into play.

Lerner headed into his first round of interviews with a deep interest in fired Jets coach Eric Mangini, a source told the Plain Dealer. It remains to be seen if Pioli and Mangini could work together after Spygate.

If Lerner's infatuation with Mangini survived their interview, he may be having to make a choice. Lerner is intent on landing the right coach, an insider said, because it's a better indicator of success.

The Herald is also reporting that Pioli's top choice for a head coach is Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz, his longtime buddy from their Cleveland days in the early 1990s. But Lerner admitted in an interview with Cleveland reporters Monday that he's "apprehensive'' about hiring a college coach.

If Lerner did try the college route, he'd more likely go after Florida coach Urban Meyer, an Ashtabula, O. native, a source told the Plain Dealer. But it remains to be seen if they'll interview him. Meyer's Gators will play Oklahoma for the national championship Jan.8.

Pioli also likes Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, who's received permission to the talk to the Browns. The Browns also planned to schedule an interview with fired Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, the Plain Dealer reported Wednesday.

The Herald reported that Lerner was prepared to make "a huge'' financial offer to Pioli, but according to sources, some of Pioli's demands were impossible for any team to meet.

I wonder what demands would be impossible for a billionaire to meet? Must not be just money?

It actually sounds like Lerner is spending his holiday on his private jet flying around like a crazy man interviewing everyone he can to get a sense of all those in contention.

It's a whirlwind tour of interviews....

Happy New Year Dawg

I was wondering the same thing ??? Maybe Lerner should be talking to Marty ??

Please Randy, get Marty in here like yesterday!!!!!!!!

Ya have to wonder about these young wanabe's Savage - Pioli and such !

THere is another thread that has this article posted on here.. I responded to it and I think I made a good point (I'm never really sure about that LOL )

Anyway, I think that Pioli is just using some old tactics to get the best deal for himself. I'd expect nothing less to be honest.

But here's the deal. I kinda have been thinking I like McKay better. Naturally, we don't get the benefit of sitting down with these guys so all we have is thier individual records and sound bites and some stories on them.

But based on all of that, I still come away thinking that McKay is the better fit for this job.

Let's face it during his time in Tampa, he had 2 HC's and a whole bunch of winning seasons including a Superbowl.

Now look at where Tampa has been since he's been gone... Not the same at all.

OK,, to further make my point, let's look at Pioli. Maybe he's the real deal and maybe not. We don't know.. Here is what we do know. Belichick rules the roost up there in NE. He's the boss of bosses so to speak.

Maybe Pioli did a great job of lining up guys for Belichick to look at, (speaking of the draft and FA's) but in the end, I'm convinced that Belichick made the final decisions. Whereas, it appears that McKay made the final decisions in Tampa.

But you don't want to take my word on any of this... I'm a little bias. I'm not a big fan of the NE Tree right now. With the lone exception being Mangini.

Here's a little slice of info on Mckay for you all to digest... Just think about it..

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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
As general manager for the Buccaneers from 1993 to 2003, McKay directed six teams that reached the NFC playoffs and one team that won a Super Bowl title. In 1996, McKay hired Tony Dungy as head coach, and in 1999 the Bucs played in the NFC championship game.

During his tenure as general manager, McKay drafted the following players: Mike Alstott (1996), Ronde Barber (1997), and Warrick Dunn (1997). He is often mis credited with drafting Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks & John Lynch. He tried to hire Marvin Lewis to be the head coach of the Buccaneers in 2002 after Dungy was fired but was overruled by the Glazers, who then hired their own coach Jon Gruden. McKay constructed the 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers roster that featured 7 Pro Bowl players. Also, the Buccaneers' 41 Pro Bowl selections between 1997 through 2002 were the most in the NFL.

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The entire piece is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_McKay

That would be cool.

Call me crazy, but I'm starting to think that Meyer is be the #1 guy on several teams radars right now. Meyer's game preparation is absolute. Plus, In 2008, we saw the zone-read offense arrive in the NFL. The zone read worked well for several teams. - Just think how well it would work with Meyer running it.

Not a Browns interview but I would like to see Rex Ryan out of Baltimore

Jets receive permission to talk with Ravens defensive coordinator Ryan
Dec. 31, 2008
CBSSports.com wire reports



NEW YORK -- The New York Jets have received permission to speak with Baltimore defensive coordinator Rex Ryan for their vacant coaching job, a person familiar with the search told the Associated Press on Wednesday.


With Bill Cowher withdrawing his name from consideration Tuesday night, the Jets are setting their sights elsewhere, with an ever-growing list of candidates that could include fired Denver coach Mike Shanahan.

Whether Brett Favre plays for the Jets' new coach remains to be seen. The 39-year-old quarterback reportedly has a torn biceps tendon in his right arm that doesn't require major surgery, but he'll likely take several weeks before deciding whether he wants to return for a 19th season.

Jets owner Woody Johnson and general manager Mike Tannenbaum have both said they'd like to have Favre back. But whoever is hired as the head coach will have significant input on the decision, according to the person, who requested anonymity because the individual wasn't authorized to discuss the search.

No formal interview had been scheduled with the 46-year-old Ryan, who's in his fourth season leading the Ravens' defense. He has also served this season as assistant head coach to John Harbaugh.

Ryan is the son of former NFL coach Buddy Ryan, and is the twin brother of Oakland defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. Rex Ryan was a candidate for the Ravens job after Brian Billick was fired last season, and also interviewed for the vacant Miami and Atlanta jobs.

The Ravens will play at Miami in the playoffs on Sunday.

The Jets, who fired Eric Mangini on Monday, will interview a pair of in-house candidates Friday: offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and offensive line coach Bill Callahan, who also served as assistant head coach under Mangini.

New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo will meet with the team Saturday.

The person familiar with the search said the team is doing its due diligence in considering several candidates, including Shanahan and Marty Schottenheimer. No formal discussions were scheduled as of early Wednesday night.

Shanahan, fired by Denver on Tuesday night, could become the No. 1 target on the Jets' list. At a news conference in Denver, Shanahan said he's interested in coaching again but hadn't taken any phone calls about current openings.

Mike Martz, Billick, Mike Holmgren, Jim Fassel and Bill Parcells, names mentioned in various reports, aren't believed to be on the Jets' immediate radar.

Shanahan, 56, was fired by the Broncos after going 146-91 over 14 seasons, including the playoffs. Denver became the first team since divisional play started in 1967 to blow a three-game lead with three games left, getting routed 52-21 at San Diego on Sunday with the AFC West title on the line.

whole article
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11212378

I also found it intersting that the Jets are interviewing Callahan for two reasons. Callahan was a college head coach. Does that make him a college coach? And 2, people might say that Mangini wouldnt take a step back and to be a DC instead of a HC and Romeo wouldnt go from HC to d-line or LB coach. Callahan was a head coach of Oakland, who lost the SB and Nebraska. Now hes coaching the o-line. My point is, coaches always take a step back to stay in the game and add to their resumes.

if learner ranks Man-genius, ryan and Meyer over billick, and shanahan he needs to sell the team because we are never going to wint with this idiot running the team.

We have had 1 college coach (they fail a vast majority of the time) and 2 coordinators, when is he going to wake up and bring in a real head coach?

Billick? No thanks.


You know .... we should get an established head coach .....

That way we can make the playoffs .........

Like Baltimore did .....

And Pittsburgh .....

And Miami ......

Atlanta .....

Minnesota .....

Carolina .....

And Arizona ......



Oh wait .... all of these 2008 playoff teams hired ...... guys who had never been NFL Head Coaches before. For those playing along at home ... that's 70% of the playoff teams this year.

Baltimore, Miami, and Atlanta did not make the payoffs last year. They each hired a guy without head coaching experience. Finding a guy with the right qualities to make a Head Coach successful is more important than just finding a guy with "experience".

For Pitdawgs sake. How many of those teams have a college coach

I don't like any of this right now. I don't want Pioli, Mangini, Ferentz, McDanials, Meyer, Shannahan...none of them.

If I'm Lerner, I am very worried right now. I say go back to square one and see if you can fine tune your thought process. Believe me, Cowher knows what he is doing...he just won't spell it out for you. He said he wouldn't COACH in 2009....He didn't say he didn't want to Build a franchise...What a perfect way for him to ease into it...Shottenheimer as coach Cowher as GM, build the team and the organization the way you want it, when Schottenheimer retires..Cowher could assume full control. I have yet to hear this scenario...I just heard him say he would not coach in 09...You think Ozzie gives a crap he is a hall of Famer for the Browns and followed them to Baltimore. Get over it Bill!

If not, Hire Scottenheimer and let him have full control as a stop gap, until better candidates for both positions become available. All these guys suck!

Yeah, and we're 0-3 going that route.

How's that gonna sell in Cleveland?

It won't and I believe Lerner knows it.

BTW- How many experienced NFL HC's were on the market when these guys were inked?

Supply and demand.......

Screw Billick. If he hires him, THEN he needs to sell the team.

If anyone is watching the Outback Bowl..the announcers were just pimpin Ferentz for an NFL HC position pretty hard.

They actually did a good job of selling him.