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www.KFFL.comChiefs | Edwards expected to be fired Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:15:23 -0800 Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports several NFL executives believe Kansas City Chiefs head coach Herman Edwards will not return for the 2009 season. Now, this isn't really much of a surprise. However, perhaps this is some writing on the wall that Pioli will go to KC and bring in his coaching choice? Just speculation on my part.
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That would be something . . . fire Herm, hire Pioli, bring in Ferentz . . . .
I was under the impression from what I read elsewhere that they wanted a new GM first then evaluate the staff. . .
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Now, this isn't really much of a surprise. However, perhaps this is some writing on the wall that Pioli will go to KC and bring in his coaching choice?
Just speculation on my part.
79...I believe your speculation could be on the mark.
Many thought Herm Edwards was safe since he was not fired in the first week after the season but now, the night before Pioli is to be interviewed..."coincidence"?
I don't think so.
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How would you guys feel about RL giving him an interview? I've always liked Edwards as a coach, and always like the way he instilled dicipline upon his team. I think he might be worth a look, couldn't hurt
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How would you guys feel about RL giving him an interview? I've always liked Edwards as a coach, and always like the way he instilled dicipline upon his team. I think he might be worth a look, couldn't hurt
I have a lot of respect for Herm Edwards. I am intrigued.
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How would you guys feel about RL giving him an interview? I've always liked Edwards as a coach, and always like the way he instilled dicipline upon his team. I think he might be worth a look, couldn't hurt
I like Herm's passion for the game.
I'm not so sure I like his coaching decisions. The Jets and Chiefs are both worse off after his tenures with them.
To be fair, he's inherited aging teams both times. I would really need to do more research about his thoroughness as a coach.
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Herm Edwards is a great man but he isn't a guy I want to coach my team. I would put him below Ferentez as far as HC possibilities.
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I think he's a passionate coach, and would be up to see what he says in an interview with RL. He runs a 4-3 though, and I think we're closer at being a good 3-4 than a 4-3.
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If he'd accept a job as a position coach maybe . . . say defensive backs . . . but I would not want him as a the head coach . . .
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I've always like Herm Edwards... Always... But his teams never win.... So I don't know. 
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I have always liked Herm too....especially his interviews.......while he had a good run in NY...he has had a tought time in KC......he has completely gutted that team, and is trying to rebuild them through the draft.......by the time they get ready, his first dtaft picks are gonna be ready to retire....I can honestly say that he is the only coach that I have saw try this..........and now he is on the hot seat...doesn't make sense for the owner fire him now......may as well give him another year or two to see if it pans out.........he has got a few good players to work with.......I would keep what you have, and try to get some in Free Agency to at least get back to .500....getting rid of Jared Allen wan't very smart
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If we go after Herm, we should have just kept RAC. Great guys both dont have what it takes to be head coaches in this leauge.
Now i'd take Herm & RAC as def coaches but not head coaches.
Pioli looks to be going to KC, with Frentz, no problem, I'm not sold on Mangini & Konkins (sp) but i'd rather go with an experianced coach,
Randy dont rush into hiring just to hurry up & fill the position, if you need to wait on shanahan thinking we have a legit chance than wait on him, just get it right, taking a extra week or two to save us 3-4 years of misury seems sencible.
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Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports several NFL executives believe Kansas City Chiefs head coach Herman Edwards will not return for the 2009 season.
Now, this isn't really much of a surprise. However, perhaps this is some writing on the wall that Pioli will go to KC and bring in his coaching choice?
Just speculation on my part.
Another "Gun-Slingin'" decision if it goes down...
Half these GM's should be AXED...How the hell can u solidify an organization when u don't even give the guy a chance to build it???
These A_Holes keep changin' HC's every other year and they'll never be squat...Which is good for US seeing we're in the same Conference...GO 4 IT...
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Well, mac, I would read it as certainly clearing the deck in a gung-ho way. Thought he ducked the axe which surprises me, but then here we go. Chiefs got issues, neh? 
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Bigbad, does that put Herm in the same boat as RAC? I have always liked him and he seems like a standup great guy. But I am not sure he has a grip on the HC extras. Kind of a slimmed down image of RAC. Sorry, but it is what it is.  
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Bur...Herm Edwards has a problem.
Herm took over the Chiefs who were 10-6 the season before Herm took over, Herms first season was 9-7, second season, 4-12, third season (2008) 2-14.
Like I said, Herm has a problem...
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Bur...Herm Edwards has a problem.
Herm took over the Chiefs who were 10-6 the season before Herm took over, Herms first season was 9-7, second season, 4-12, third season (2008) 2-14.
Like I said, Herm has a problem...
I'm not sure why Herm's KC team went down hill so fast after the departure of Vermeil, but it sure did drop like a rock..
Was it bad coaching or a series of bad drafts or a series of injuries.. I would have never thought that Herms team would drop like that.. always liked the guy....
I guess we just gotta say no to Herm...
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Well, mac, I would read it as certainly clearing the deck in a gung-ho way. Thought he ducked the axe which surprises me, but then here we go. Chiefs got issues, neh?
Bard...I do believe the Chiefs "may" have some issues their owner, Clark Hunt (son of Lamar) would rather have the new GM take care of.
Pioli should not have a problem clearing the deck, should he?
Then Pioli could fire Herm and first abide by the Rooney rule, then bring in his guy, Ferentz.
That should not be a problem, should it?
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Hummmmmmm wonder who it was that said that "IF" they were Pioli they would head off to KC if the Hunts would let me fire the HC and hire mine.. Hummmmmmm Seems that clueless twit may have been on to something...
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I'm just curuous,, where is it been confirmed that Pioli wants Ferentz as his HC? I mean, there have been just a slue of reports stating that, but I have seen none where Pioli is directly quoted.. did I just miss that? Or is it some reporters idea of how to get rumors started?
Brown to the Bone; Someone mentioned it a couple of posts up that if Pioli goes to KC he'd bring his friend Ferentz with him...
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Other than who has actually interviewed, who has declined interviews etc... pretty much everything else is speculation especially with regards to these "package deals" I see floating around, don't expect much to be confirmed until somebody is actually hired.
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Brown...my question is, why do the Hunts need someone else to fire Herm Edwards?
Randy Lerner did what was necessary right after the season was over and announced that Romeo would not be retained as HC. Lerner didn't wait on someone else to do if for him.
Does it appear that the Chiefs owners are a little bit scared to fire Herm Edwards?
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I'm just curuous,, where is it been confirmed that Pioli wants Ferentz as his HC? I mean, there have been just a slue of reports stating that, but I have seen none where Pioli is directly quoted.. did I just miss that? Or is it some reporters idea of how to get rumors started?
Hell you could insert RL wants Magini as his HC, and find nothing directly quoted by RL that confirms it. I don't think its likely your being getting any direct quotes from anyone at this time. JMHO.
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herm...the teflon don.
I saw him first hand in NY...sometimes literally as their training facilities were 20 min from my house and the big training ground for the local youth football camps. As well as coaches camps.
Edwards was a media darling.
Edwards was always a players coach - they loved him.
Edwards was always a terrible field day coach...and those players who loved him...hmmm some how weren't afraid to quit on him!
But man could he entertain the press and has always gotten a free pass because of it!
Talks a great game...I'm sure he's impressive in his interviews. But coming from the Dungy tree of great young black coaches. Lovie Smith, Timlin, ??? forget any others - he's the only one who never has success and he has definitely inherited good veteran teams that he can coach up and bring in fresh blood but his upgrades always seem to bring the team down.
Has been the worst coach since November 07 and has gotten a free ride. But he was noted in a survey of late...Top 5 coach that NFL players want to play for   amazing!
JMHO - I don't know what I would do if he was our next coach! I DON"T LIKE HIM AT ALL! 
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where is it been confirmed that Pioli wants Ferentz as his HC? I mean, there have been just a slue of reports stating that, but I have seen none where Pioli is directly quoted.. did I just miss that? Or is it some reporters idea of how to get rumors started?
Daman...the reports about Ferentz being Pioli's guy have been numerous, to the point of reporters asking Ferentz if he was teamed with Pioli as a GM/HC package right after Iowa won their Bowl game.
Ferentz was careful with his words and didn't really say yes or no to going to the Pros to coach. He indicated he liked his job at Iowa but that is not a no answer.
Said Ferentz: “Scott’s a great friend of mine, and I think it’s a mutual thing. I think it’s presumptuous to think anybody knows what he’s doing right now, and he and I haven’t talked in three weeks. We’ve both been doing our jobs. I’ve got a great job at Iowa, I’ve said that many, many times. The people are fantastic, and I just feel very, very fortunate.”
Asked where the NFL fits on his “to do” list, Ferentz said, “I don’t have a ‘to do’ list. I never have. I just try to live every day and enjoy them, and I can’t think of a year I’ve enjoyed much more than this one.”
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The rumors started to surface when Pioli was announced as a candidate for the Browns GM opening.
Did those rumors start in NE, from the NE press?
Or did they first start from another source?
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Herm Edwards and RAC remind me of someone that I would want coaching my sons while they were younger. Someone you can truly respect, someone who is going to look out for them, someone who is going to help my child.
But from a coaching aspect, I don't think they can cut it. That doesn't take away anything from how good of men they are, because I think they both are very honorable. But that doesn't equate good coaching.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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DC and otown.. yeah,, I guess it's asking to much for a quote at this point. Noboby is giving out quotes..
My guess is we will know who's been hired when Randy announces it to the press... till then, everything is subjective.
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My guess is we will know who's been hired when Randy announces it to the press... till then, everything is subjective.
Daman...and the Ravens just said Kokinis would not be allowed to interview with the Browns until this coming Sunday. So unless Pioli agrees to take the Browns GM job, we have to wait another week.
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Brown...my question is, why do the Hunts need someone else to fire Herm Edwards?
Randy Lerner did what was necessary right after the season was over and announced that Romeo would not be retained as HC. Lerner didn't wait on someone else to do if for him.
Does it appear that the Chiefs owners are a little bit scared to fire Herm Edwards?
Clark is not scared to fire Herm. Clark is hesitant because he approved of the 2008 rebuild. Carl Peterson did not sign off on the rebuild, Herm went over Carl's head to blow up the roster and fill it with young inexperienced players. I think Clark wants to hold true to his word that Herm would be giving the chance to implement the plan, but realizes it may not be the best option for the future with Herm at the helm. Herm wanted to blow things up in 2007, but Carl thought the team was close just after getting to the play offs at 9-7.
I'll be glad when Herm is gone though.
To the poster that wondered why the Chiefs fell from 10-6 to 2-14...
It was a combination of many things. 1st the team was the oldest in the NFL at the time of Herm's hire. 2nd the drafting under Vermeil was horrible, at best. Willie Roaf talked Will Shields into not retiring than Roaf retired himself. John Tait was not resigned as he and Carl Peterson had a fall out. 3 of the 5 starting offensive linemen from Vermeils team were no longer playing for the Chiefs, and they were not suitably replaced. They moved Brian Waters to LG, and drafted Albert this season for LT; but C, RG, RT are still very bad. 3rd Herm failed to adapt. He wanted to run an offense that was smash mouth football, but he didn't have the line to smash anybody in the mouth. 4th that line also allowed each season under Herm for 3 different QBs to play in each season due to injuries. 5th Herm sucks at game management. He has to be the worst game manager in all of football. Seriously, he really sucks at it. 6th while I'm happy that Albert was drafted to play Lt, only giving up 4.5 sacks as a rookie converted from LG to LT, the Chiefs gave up Jared Allen the league leading sack artist for 2007. The Chiefs drafted Dorsey to be the 3 technique DT, but used him straight up against LG. They didn't use him to his strengths. They don't have a true MLB, and still need a solid OLB. The Chiefs will have one of the better CB tandems in the league among rookies Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr. They will be a fearsome duo in the years to come. There are more reasons but writing this is kind of depressing.
I'll finish with this...Herm as a head coach has set records for the Chiefs franchise. Unfortunately, none of them are positives. The 2008 Chiefs fielded the worst pass rush in NFL history with the fewest sacks ever includng the strike year. They also have giving up the most yards in NFL history, or maybe it was franchise history. They had their worst loss in franchise history which was the game that Buffalo had scored the most points in their franchise history since the AFL NFL merger. The Chiefs also had their longest losing streak in franchise history from last season into this season. They finished 2-14 which was a franchise record for worst record.
Well, there were a few positives...Tony G extended and broke more records for the TE group. Hell, Tony is on his way to being included in yards, receptions, and TDs among the top 10 best WRs in the NFL.
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Clark is not scared to fire Herm. Clark is hesitant because he approved of the 2008 rebuild. Carl Peterson did not sign off on the rebuild, Herm went over Carl's head to blow up the roster and fill it with young inexperienced players. I think Clark wants to hold true to his word that Herm would be giving the chance to implement the plan, but realizes it may not be the best option for the future with Herm at the helm.
Chiefsfan...I'm a little confused...your saying that the owner, Clark Hunt, wanted his team to be torn down and rebuilt and that is what Herm Edwards did, but the Chiefs GM, Carl Peterson did not agree with the decision?
Herm could not go above the head of his GM without the approval of the owner, right?
Peterson has already resigned so I would say that Hunt is only looking to fill the GM opening with Pioli since Herm has followed his owners orders.
If Pioli fires Herm Edwards after Herm did what Clark Hunt wanted him to do (blowing the team up), it can only happen with Clark Hunt's approval. There is no way Clark Hunt can push this onto Pioli and claim he had nothing to do with it.
Clark Hunt cannot fire Herm Edwards or let Pioli fire Herm without looking like Clark simply "used" Herm, then threw him under the bus and drove over him a few times.
For those who think the Browns have problems, take a look at the Chiefs.
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Chiefsfan...I'm a little confused...your saying that the owner, Clark Hunt, wanted his team to be torn down and rebuilt and that is what Herm Edwards did, but the Chiefs GM, Carl Peterson did not agree with the decision?
Herm could not go above the head of his GM without the approval of the owner, right?
Peterson has already resigned so I would say that Hunt is only looking to fill the GM opening with Pioli since Herm has followed his owners orders.
If Pioli fires Herm Edwards after Herm did what Clark Hunt wanted him to do (blowing the team up), it can only happen with Clark Hunt's approval. There is no way Clark Hunt can push this onto Pioli and claim he had nothing to do with it.
Clark Hunt cannot fire Herm Edwards or let Pioli fire Herm without looking like Clark simply "used" Herm, then threw him under the bus and drove over him a few times.
For those who think the Browns have problems, take a look at the Chiefs.
Clark has stated he will retain Herm, but will leave it up to the new GM. He made that statement when the presser came out in regards to Carl's resignation.
Here is a segment from the presser...
Q: What’s Herm Edwards’ status?
HUNT: “I had a chance to speak with Herm this afternoon and I told him I’m very supportive of the job that he’s done to this point and the approach that he’s taken in rebuilding the football team. A decision on his future will be one that we will make in the off-season. It’s something that I expect a new general manager will have input in although the final decision will be mine.”
Q: So you can’t say for certain that Herm will be coaching the Chiefs next year?
HUNT: “No, I think the best thing for the organization is to wait until we have the new GM on board and make that evaluation at that time.”
Q: You said earlier that you thought that Herm was the right coach to lead the rebuilding process here. Has your opinion changed?
HUNT: “No it really hasn’t. True to his word, he has given the young players a chance to play and it’s been gratifying to watch them develop. Now, he’s as disappointed as anybody that we haven’t turned more of those close games into wins. But I continue to think he’s the right person both to have led us through this process and going forward I think he would do a good job as well.”
Q: Herm would be in the last year of his contract next season. If the decision is made to retain him will his contract be extended?
HUNT: “That again is a decision we haven’t made at this point. It’s something that I would want the new general manager’s input in. It gets back to the importance of the timing in making the announcement.”
Q: It would appear if the decision not to retain Herm is made that all this franchise has gone through in rebuilding has been for nothing these last two seasons.
HUNT: “Philosophically it is likely that I will hire a new GM who shares the same vision for how this football team should be built on a long-term basis. That’s one that focuses on young players through the draft. Without commenting specifically on Herm’s situation, I don’t expect that the change in the GM will change the direction that we’re headed in and how we’re trying to build the team that we started in earnest a couple of years ago. I want to make sure we don’t derail what we’ve done to this point because if you look at the league the franchises that struggle to be winners on a consistent basis are ones that are reactionary and that will pursue a direction for two or three years and then because they haven’t had the success they would like they change and go in a different direction. You then get a lot of turnover in your coaches and your players and that lack of continuity doesn’t give you a chance to win.”
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I think you have to understand the history of Lamar and how he ran things as an owner, and now that his son is in his third year as owner. Clark is trying to do things differently. So yes the Chiefs organization is in a bit of state of flux, but Clark is trying to make important changes at the top that haven't been done in 20 years. Carl was much like Butch Davis for the Browns without the HC title. He had the multiple position role for his entire reign in KC. Clark is stripping that away. One person for GM, one person for Pres, and one person for the CEO role. The Chiefs are finally taking steps in the right direction from an office stand point.
But I got side tracked, sorry. Anyway, Yes Clark did sign off on the rebuild. But he also made it clear that he expected the Chiefs to be competitive within the division, and to compete for the playoffs. Considering the Chiefs lost 9 games by 8 points or less, and of those 9 games 7 of them the Chiefs had a lead at halftime, 6 of those going into the 4th quarter; had the Chiefs won those 6 games leading in the 4th quarter the Chiefs would have made the playoffs. They would have won their division at 8-8. Herm bares much of the responsibility for that. The players made mistakes and blew some opportunities, but play calling, game time calls, and other coaching decisions cost the Chiefs just as many chances at winning.
So what would you do? Do you keep the Head Coach? You sign off on a rebuild, but the team performs worse than your desired expectations. Herm has one year left on his contract with a new GM coming in. He either needs to get an extension or be fired. Herm hasn't done anything to deserve an extension. I think it is the right move to allow the new GM to make the decisions. If the new GM keeps Herm than so be it.
I don't fault Clark one bit for this mess. It has been a build up of 20 years of doing things one way. That is FINALLY over. Lamar Hunt did a lot for the NFL and the Chiefs, but as an owner he slipped in his last 10 years. He allowed for Carl to stay on and run the franchise into the ground. Clark has changed this, so I see things as finally having a bright future. Just got to get the right GM in there, and right now it looks positive that Pioli may be that guy. I'm sure hoping.
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Yes Clark did sign off on the rebuild. But he also made it clear that he expected the Chiefs to be competitive within the division, and to compete for the playoffs.
Chiefsfan...looking at Herms record at KC, it's obvious that Clark Hunt didn't decide to rebuild the team until Herm was in his second season as HC. Herm was 9-7 his first season, then the drop to 4-12 and this season 2-14.
Looking at the quote above, did Clark Hunt have "realistic" expectation of the Chiefs making the playoffs this season?
You say that the team played some close games this season that they lost and had they won those games, they would of won their division and you say Herm is responsible for that...ahh, I look at your comment as a plus for Herm that he had his team that close to making the playoffs. But obvious, you feel that this team should have been 8-8 and made the playoffs in the second year of a rebuilding process.
Your team started a 2nd year QB who was a 7th rd pick of the Vikings and he played his college ball at Coastal Carolina University.
Again, Clark Hunt can say whatever he wants about his expectations, they are very unrealistic.
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Clark has stated he will retain Herm, but will leave it up to the new GM. He made that statement when the presser came out in regards to Carl's resignation.
chiefsfan...Now if that is not a great example of Clark Hunt taking the easy way out, I don't know what is...lol
On one hand Clark Hunt said it is his decision whether Herm would be retained, then turns around and says he has to consult with the new GM and get his input on Herm.
I would say that Herm Edwards got suckered by Clark Hunt, doing all the dirty work of following the owners plan to blow the team up, suffering the W-L record (the record book never says owner, Clark Hunt, 2 wins and 14 loses)and now Herm is being left out to dry by the owner.
What would I do?...I would just be honest with Herm and tell him he's out as HC, thank him and pay Herm the final year on his contract and allow him time to catch on with another team if that is what Herm wants to do.
I'm not saying Herm is a great coach but I feel that Clark Hunt just used Herm to blow the team up, do the dirty work, suffer the terrible records that go with a rebuild and now it's time to get rid of Herm, after consulting with the new GM.
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PIOLI, CHIEFS MAKING PROGRESS
Posted by Mike Florio on January 11, 2009, 10:02 p.m.
Though we’re told that the Kansas City Chiefs have no press conferences scheduled for the imminent future, a report from the Boston Globe suggests that something could be going on.
Per Mike Reiss of the Globe, discussions between the Chiefs and Patriots V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli have intensified.
Pioli is widely believed to be the top candidate for the vacant G.M. position.
But Reiss adds that actual negotiations have not yet begun.
The future of coach Herm Edwards hinges on the G.M. hire. Jay Glazer of FOX reported on Sunday that Edwards plans to remain patient. That said, the likelihood of Edwards remaining on the job remains slim.
There was a rumor making the rounds last week that Pioli prefers that Edwards be fired before Pioli is hired, so that his first act is not the termination of the team’s head coach. Though we don’t know whether the rumor is true, it makes a lot of sense. web page
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Why would Pioli not want to fire the coach as his first act? Why have someone else do it?
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Why would Pioli not want to fire the coach as his first act? Why have someone else do it?
It certainly appears he's going to get that very opportunity. I seriously doubt the players are going to be happy with whomever swings the axe on Herm, he's a good guy at heart and may simply have been a casualty of a previously bad GM.
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Another coach possibility. Decent individual. Dsicipline might help as a position coach. If we have one of the 20+ slots available. Not sure I want him with us though
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That would be something . . . fire Herm, hire Pioli, bring in Ferentz/new head coach (my edit) . . . .
You got the order wrong. It looks like...
1. Hire Pioli
2. Hire new HC (Spags)
3. Fire Herm
Edwards is too decent of a man to have been left hanging like this. I'm shocked that Clark Hunt didn't make the decision to fire him a lot sooner - at least be more up-front about it. It's hard to believe that any new GM would want to keep the HC in that position.
Sorry, ChiefsFan. While the hiring of Pioli is a step in the right direction, the handling of Edwards has not been positive. Besides, hiring Pioli does not indicate to me that the owner is doing anything better - Pioli as GM is virtually a no-brainer given his resume (but so was hiring Savage and RAC 4 years ago... )
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I'll tell you who may benefit from this is the Lions. They've been dragging their feet about finding a new head coach, interviewing a shotgun blast of coordinators. The current front runner is Todd Bowles from MIami. They're also tossing around Jim Schwarz, Leslie Frazier, Jason Garret, Ron Rivera and Spaguolo. They actually have some of these guys answering questions from the media. That's kinda nutty. I think they really screwed the pooch promoting the interim GM, Martin Mayhew, to a permanant GM postion. Hello? Floyd Reese on speed dial? Herman Edwards could be an anwer to their prayers. Detroit News
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He's just another name for them at this point but if they're as bent on getting some experience in there as we were, he'll vault to the top of the list. I'm not quite sure whether the blame lies more on him or on the team for being downright putrid. That talent was absolutely lacking in Kansas City this year.
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That would be something . . . fire Herm, hire Pioli, bring in Ferentz/new head coach (my edit) . . . .
You got the order wrong. It looks like...
1. Hire Pioli
2. Hire new HC (Spags)
3. Fire Herm
Edwards is too decent of a man to have been left hanging like this. I'm shocked that Clark Hunt didn't make the decision to fire him a lot sooner - at least be more up-front about it. It's hard to believe that any new GM would want to keep the HC in that position.
Sorry, ChiefsFan. While the hiring of Pioli is a step in the right direction, the handling of Edwards has not been positive. Besides, hiring Pioli does not indicate to me that the owner is doing anything better - Pioli as GM is virtually a no-brainer given his resume (but so was hiring Savage and RAC 4 years ago... )
It is better or rather more specifically "change from the same old same old" in KC. Considering the Chiefs under Lamar Hunt had the same man for 20 years run the show without ever getting to the Super Bowl, and only making it to the AFC Championship once back in 1993. A man that had 4 different job titles GM/CEO/Pres, and also player personnel at one time. And change from the same old buddy buddy system that has shaped much of the Chiefs staffing positions. It may be a "no brainer", but it took Clark a couple weeks of "courting" to get this done. Pioli initially only started talking to Hunt out of courtesy. Pioli was initially gonna either be a Brown or stay as a Patriot. Clark did a good job at selling the Chiefs to Pioli. Now I do see where you are going with RAC, for I had the same thoughts. However the difference being that the coaches that have left NE have not faired too well, with Mangini actually be the best of those that left, but the people (or person) in management roles that left are having success (Atlanta Falcons anyone?). The coaching have to work with whatever talent is brought in by HC and GM. Those factors are greatly influnced by the scouting department and other members of player personnel. This is where NE has been stellar, and it is also where the Chiefs have gained one of the Pats strengths.
I expect different results than what has become a common theme among those that left Camelot.
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