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Speaking of which,, has anyone heard anything about any team asking for permission to speak with any of our coaches? I haven't!
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Thought this was interesting and maybe explains a lot regarding Mangini... why he was fired and why he is adamant about getting a GM he can work with. “TRUST” ISSUES COULD BE AFFECTING JETS’ COACHING SEARCH Posted by Mike Florio on January 6, 2009, 8:58 a.m. EST In the NFL, things rarely are what they seem. The sport, after all, ties on-field success to secrecy and deception. If the other team knows what you’re going to do, your chances of successfully doing it plummet. And if you can make the other team think you’re going to do something you’re not, the possibility of a big play awaits. The problem, as we’ve observed many times in the past, is that some folks don’t know where the line properly rests between all’s-fair tactics and telling the truth. With the New York Jets, there’s reason to believe that the line extends all the way to the front door of the facility. Last Monday, for example, when reporters pressed Woody Johnson to explain why he said in March 2008 that coach Eric Mangini and G.M. Mike Tannenbaum “absolutely” would be back in 2009, Johnson said, “That is something that I will continue to do. We believe in supporting management, coaches and players. I will continue to do that.” Translation? “Do not believe anything we ever say publicly about this team.” The next question, then, is whether anyone can believe anything that Johnson or anyone else says privately about the team, or to the team. Receiver Laveranues Coles, tight end Chris Baker, and former guard Pete Kendall have made themselves heard on such matters. And we can only wonder what Tannenbaum might have been telling Mangini, with whom Tannenbaum professed to have a “close personal relationship,” while Tannenbaum was engaged in continuous discussions with Johnson as to whether Mangini should keep his job. “This is why coaches don’t trust general managers,” a league source told us in the wake of last Monday’s press conference. Moving forward, then, the challenge for the Jets (and specifically for Tannenbaum) is to find a coach who’ll both accept the fact that Tannenbaum has finagled near-complete control — and no apparent accountability — and also trust that Tannenbaum won’t do to him what Tannenbaum did to his good friend Eric. Maybe that’s why offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, who presumably was a big part of the problem, could provide Tannenbaum with the perfect solution. Schottenheimer arguably is young enough to defer to Tannenbaum, and sufficiently inexperienced to believe what his boss says. So does it surprise anyone that Schottenheimer supposedly is suddenly the leading candidate for the job? Of course, Schottenheimer could be a tough sell to the fans and the media. So part of the challenge will be to make the other candidates look less attractive. One way would be to leak to the press that interviews didn’t go well. And that’s already happening. Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo reportedly “wasn’t as prepared as one would expect.” Or could it be that Spagnuolo might come into the organization flashing one (and possibly two) Super Bowl rings and carrying the attention of plenty of confirmed Giants fans who now have a greater interest in New York/New Jersey’s “other” NFL team? If Spagnuolo enjoys success, he could acquire all or part of the owner’s ear. And that would undermine Tannenbaum’s position. Is it cynical to think that one of the primary agendas is for Tannenbaum to do what he can to keep the power that he so carefully and skillfully accumulated over the past several years? It sure is. Is it off the mark to think this Andy Bernard with a law degree fears that, at some point, the owner might question the G.M.’s role in the struggles of the team, and that a head coach who isn’t on the same page with the G.M. could jeopardize Tannenbaum’s ability to keep his job? It sure isn’t. So when your team continues to struggle, Jets fans, you’ll understand why. The current search for a head coach isn’t necessarily about finding the best person to lead the team to a trophy the franchise hasn’t touched in 40 years and counting. The primary goal could be to ensure that the next coach won’t threaten the reign of a General Manager with no discernable football skills, qualifications, or experience. As Gary Myers of the New York Daily News recently pointed out, Tannenbaum has never been a scout or a coach. Based on our Internet research, it’s unclear whether he’s ever worn a football helmet on any day other than Halloween. In hindsight, it’s amazing that this has happened in the NFL — and specifically in New York City. Frankly, this is Detroit, Cincinnati, or Oakland stuff. And, quite possibly, the Jets could be in for the same kind of results for as long as Tannenbaum has the job. pft
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When was the last time anyone was interested in our coordinators when they were here?
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I understand where you're coming from, and shouldn't have replied to you in the same post as Menza because you are debating and he is trolling. Sorry if you felt I was lumping you with him (not saying you did, just making sure).
Anyway, the problem is that Pioli has no experience in these things either. He basically has been a gatherer of information and gives it to Bill. He has never hired a coach and, from media reports and from what I've heard both, he was focused on bringing in Ferentz without interviewing anyone else already, let alone 4 (at least Tucker was an interview LOL).
I think Lerner did learn some things. He learned the coach and GM have to be working together and wants to insure that will happen and he also wants an experienced coach.
No worries, I figured that was the case.
Concerning Pioli - several sources I've read have said that of the people in the league they talked to, to a man, that Pioli would do a solid job as a GM. Mangini isn't held nearly in that high of a regard, even though I do think he's getting somewhat of a bum rap. If I were choosing between the two, I'd take Pioli hands down though. If you could team Pioli AND Mangini, I wouldn't say a peep (though it looks like this isn't a possibility anymore).
I do think that Randy has learned something from the Savage/Crennel debacle, but I don't believe that whatever he learned from that is enough for him to justify captaining the construction this team. Learning from your experience doesn't make you a good football guy and I feel we NEED one in the process this time around. Having a coach and GM working together is very important as well as having an experienced coach as you say (though I think a top-notch inexperienced coach is very acceptable as well). My problem is pairing that coach with an inexperienced GM.
If he goes through with it as is, my fear is that he has one more lesson to learn - that it doesn't matter if your GM and HC are on the same page if one or both (most likely the GM here) isn't qualified enough to perform his duties well. If I had heard anything good about Kokinis, my fears would be alleviated more, but he's a guy that has been in his position for 5 years without a smidgen of interest from other teams as a GM except in connection to Mangini and isn't even Baltimore's #2 (not that their FO isn't all Ozzie anyway).
The only real thing about him and his background that stands out is the one I care about the least... that he's buddies with Mangini. This is a lesson that if he learns it, it will be as he puts the team on the auction block. I'd like to avoid that if at all possible.
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I'm just not seeing the utter confidence so many have in Pioli. I think Belichick is the mastermind of the NE success, not some wizard in the FO. Belichick did it in two years I think, way too fast for a FO type to be all that instrumental.
I don't really understand it either. Mangini has proven that even without Grumpy, he can win two out of three seasons. RAC has proven he couldn't as well as other Grumpy branches. While with Pioli, there's zero body of work without Grumpy. We haven't had a HC win two out of three seasons here since Marty!
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Mangini has been competent as a head coach. So he brings far fewer questions with him than any hot coordinator of the moment. I'm not sure why he is being viewed with such disfavor. Lerner wanted Cowher, Cowher didn't want to coach.
Because people are simply skeptical of everything and their emotions are overtaking common sense, maybe?
And yes, I agree that there are questions on Coke. He'll be a rookie GM. But no matter how we slice it, with Pioli/Ferentz, you get TWO rookies in their respective positions. With Mangini Coke, we get one rookie.
If there are that many "potential NFL owners" on this board, maybe they should consider a career change? Because we have a boatload full of people who feel they could do a better job.
I think we're bringing in the coach to right the ship, I really do if Mangini is hired. He was off to a good start and has the potential to be a very long term solution here.
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2001,,, Belichick hired RAC after Davis came in and let him go....
But then again, that's not really the point. I don't remember the last time we had a coach that someone thought enough of to ask for permission to talk to him.
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I was a little Leary of Mangini before reading your rants about him. Now you have convinced me how good a choice he probably is. I learned from reading what you type I usually disagree with you vehemently. This time is no different.
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Ha ha ha....I'm getting the feeling a lot of people on this board feel the same way.
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True lol. Wonder what kind of looks Chud is going to get after a season like this past one.
Speaking of which,, has anyone heard anything about any team asking for permission to speak with any of our coaches? I haven't!
Green Bay was reported to have a interest in RAC for DC. Not sure if they brought him in yet or not.... KFFL posted it.
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I've just done a ton of reading, including insider sites and the fact that Lerner has preferred Mangini from the getgo has been hidden to no one. Supposedly Schwartz cancelled his interview because he didn't want to waste his time interviewing for a job he couldn't get, especially when his team was in the playoffs. That's how bad it's gotten and no other organization has been that transparent with this.
So you've used a bunch of rumor mill BS that isn't even credible enough to post here. Then, you buy into these rumors and try to present them as factual?
You just admited the exact reason WHY this board doesn't like rumor mills! I read them too. I've read it all! But so what? These guys make a living spreading rumors. Unnamed sources, blah, blah, blah.
There's usually a grain of truth somewhere in them. But for the most part, they're pure speculation. If that's how you arrive at your conclusions, that explains a lot. And points out exactly the poor state of what some consider reliable.......
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Using REASON...Pioli said no to Randy's suggestion of Mangini...and Randy didnt offer him the job.
Using REASAON, Lerner said Pioli's demands were too high. Which may have included a rookie at GM (Pioli) AND a rookie HC (Ferentz).
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I guess my problem comes from the complete change in direction that's taken place. The thinking at the start was that we bring in one guy with football experience that has succeeded in the past and let him fix the organization. Whether it be Cowher at coach or Pioli/McKay in the front office, it seemed imperative to bring in someone who knew how to win and let him work. With a guy like Cowher, we could've had less experience at GM because Cowher's experience made up for it. Same thing with Pioli and McKay with a rookie coach.
Instead, somehow we've gone from that to having Randy Lerner as our big decision maker,
Lerner IS the "big" (ultimate) decision maker ..... whether or not he brought in the GM or Head Coach first. If he decided on the coach first ... then the GM ... or the other way around .... he decided on a football person first ..... THEN used their knowledge and judgement to pick the other. Lerner is going to be the one to ultimately decide who runs this team.
It might be that you see the GM as the most important piece of the puzzle ..... and Lerner (from published reports) sees the Head Coach as the more vital hire. Either position COULD be correct ....... and just because Lerner went the opposite of the way you would prefer does not necessarily make him wrong.
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I'm gonna throw out a theory here...
I call it the "splash vs. safe" theory.
We've tried 2 splashes. Butch was a splash because of his college credentials. Romeo was a splash because of his Superbowl rings and Savage was because of his qualifications in scouting talent.
Both times we've fallen flat on our faces.
Maybe it's time we go in a different direction and go with a "kinda safe" pick and hope it provides more consistently positive results?
I wonder.
The only splash that is safe as well is Parcells...and he's probably not gonna opt out in Miami.
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One thing I'm wondering: for all those people freaking out that Learner hasn't done his homework and Mangini is set in stone... why hasn't he been hired yet, then?
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I think you summarized it pretty well. The "sexy pick" doesn't always make the best wife. It took me three times to figure that out too!  And Parcells? He's a sly dog and I respect him for it. He's earned it. But he ALWAYS has these "opt out" clauses. So it's a short term solution unless you don't answer his ransom demands. But I don't blame him as long as the market permits it. Isn't that The American way?
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The only splash that is safe as well is Parcells...and he's probably not gonna opt out in Miami.
Parcells is staying in Miami.
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MIAMI (AP) -Bill Parcells is staying with the Miami Dolphins, owner Wayne Huizenga said.
After the team's playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, Huizenga said Parcells has decided to remain for another season.
Parcells' contract allows him to leave and still receive the $9-12 million remaining on his four-year contract if the franchise is sold. That sale is expected to be completed soon.
But Huizenga said Parcells told him Friday he plans to remain as executive vice president of football operations.
"I talked to Bill the other day," Huizenga said. "He said, 'Hey, I like it here."'
Thanks in large part to the leadership of Parcells, hired in December 2007, Miami went 11-6 and made the playoffs for the first time in seven years. The breakthrough came after a 1-15 record in 2007.
The sale of a majority share of the team to New York real estate billionaire Stephen Ross is expected to be completed soon. Under the terms of Parcells' contract, he would then have 30 days to leave without sacrificing the money due him in the final three years of his deal.
The Dolphins lost to Baltimore 27-9.
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I'm looking long term!
I'm going to think positive, sit back and watch Mangini work.
It sounds like he's got a Belichick type work ethic and I can't argue with that!
I think our guys will have all they need to succeed each week.
I want discipline and he seems to be able to deliver!
I like that he gives out weekly tests! Heck, we were never prepared this season and a quiz or two may have helped!
He's not RAC so I'm not overly concerned of seeing a repeat coaching style.
Ultimately, Randy foots the bill, he's no dummy and he has to answer if it blows up yet again.
Most guys don't weasel their way to a HC/GM job so I'll do the one thing I can
do...sit back, trust and see what happens.
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One thing I'm wondering: for all those people freaking out that Learner hasn't done his homework and Mangini is set in stone... why hasn't he been hired yet, then?
Seriously.
I'm just guessing here, but if Mangini said he'd like to have Koknis (sp) as a GM,, maybe they are waiting to interview him before announcing Mangini!
I'm thinking that they want to make one announcment then let the chips fall where they may..
But again, it's just a guess and probably not a good one.
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that's only from the owner. once the owner is gone, no one knows what parcells will do. to further that: Quote:
According to the Newark Star-Ledger, Dolphins VP of Football Operations Bill Parcells is telling those close to him that he would consider coaching again if the right situation comes about.
Parcells has an out in his contract if Wayne Huizenga sells the Fins to current co-owner Stephen Ross. ESPN reported Sunday that Parcells might jump to another team as GM, but the Star-Ledger says the Tuna would also be interested in coaching the talent he evaluates. Any team pursuing Parcells would obviously have to realize he's a short-term solution. If Parcells does return to the sidelines, the Jets would appear to be his best fit. Dec. 29 - 2:51 pm et
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=136796
even if it's for a short term, i'd love to have the tuna turn things around here and help pick his successor. who said we need to find the ONE guy for continuity. what if we got the guy who stays for a year or two but knows how to set up the franchise for the future? all reports said that parcells acted like part-coach, part-executive, often telling players what they needed to do or where they needed to be with permission from sporano, who was picked by parcells. and look what happened. from 1 win to playoffs.
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I hear what you're saying, but I'd prefer a gamble on a younger guy that would be staying longer, i.e. Cowher did in Pitt. But, in today's world, who says even that is possible anymore ?
Parcells is probably a no-go, but if he came here, would I disapprove ? Hell no.
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I'm looking to have a winner in the next two years,, a man in his 60's like a Marty Schottenhiemer could accomplish that.. The problem is is that fixes the immediate problem,, what happens when he's done..
I guess if you look at it as a long term issue, it's probably better to get someone younger so that if they succeed, you can keep them in place for the next 10 + years.
Gotta say, if given the responsibility to hire the next coach and GM,, I can't honestly tell you which way I would go... I guess everything depend on how each candidate impressed me in interviews.
Wait, maybe that's what lerner is doing
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Rabid, I so totally agree with you. A dose of drill sarge suits this group. And I am afeared; this thing is getting muddier by the day, and I think they need to get to werk. The longer it drags, the antsier I feel. And I am not patient either. I wanna know, y'know? 
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One thing I'm wondering: for all those people freaking out that Learner hasn't done his homework and Mangini is set in stone... why hasn't he been hired yet, then?
Seriously.
I'm just guessing here, but if Mangini said he'd like to have Koknis (sp) as a GM,, maybe they are waiting to interview him before announcing Mangini!
I'm thinking that they want to make one announcment then let the chips fall where they may..
But again, it's just a guess and probably not a good one.
Nobody's even talked to Kokonis yet, who's to say he even wants the job or that he feels the same way about Mangini as Mangini feels about him?
I know both are unlikely but at least it warrants the time to make sure they're all on the same page.
With that being said, even though the Browns are forbidden to talk to Kokonis that doesn't mean Lerner can't speak to Kokonis through Mangini as long as he's not employed by anyone......just thinking out loud here.
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One thing I'm wondering: for all those people freaking out that Learner hasn't done his homework and Mangini is set in stone... why hasn't he been hired yet, then?
Seriously.
Probably because Lerner wants to bring in Mangini/Kokinis as a package deal and Kokinis has been barred from interviewing before Sunday. When a guy is rumored to be already picking out his coaching staff, I think it's safe to say that the job is his.
As soon as Lerner interviewed Mangini, he began drifting away from Pioli, finished up his scheduled interviews with Spagnuolo and McDaniels, interviewed Tucker to satisfy the Rooney Rule and then presto. He's done. No more coach interviews. The only remaining scheduled coach, Schwartz, cancelled his interview because he didn't want to waste his time with a team in a playoff game. No more GM interviews. Save one that is - Kokinis, who just happens to be Mangini's choice for GM. He already tried once to bring him into New York but the Ravens blocked it.
Think about it in the context that Lerner loves Mangini. Lerner was said to be surprised and excited when he was told Mangini was fired. One of the issues said to be separating Pioli and Lerner is that Pioli wants to name his own head coach and doesn't really want to work with Mangini. You never hear about the other coaches we interviewed because they aren't Mangini. Schwartz cancels his interview because he doesn't want to waste his time, presumably because Mangini is already locked in. We ask Kokinis for an interview who just happens to be good friends with Mangini. Ever since Mangini entered the process, it has literally all been about Mangini.
If we ended up with anything OTHER than Mangini/Kokinis at this point, I'd be surprised to say the least. Lerner said that last time he went through this process, he said everyone agreed with his hires of Savage/Crennel and they produced nothing. This time, he's doing whatever he feels like regardless of other's opinions, which just happens to be giving Mangini everything. That's why I'm so frustrated with this whole process... it was love at first sight with Mangini and everything else means little, which is the exact opposite of the through process involving NFL experience that we were supposed to have.
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Specre, Lerner was "surpirsed" and "intrigued" that Mangini was fired. Having two winning seasons out of three, there weren't many that were both, so you're taking it a bit out of context. You are also assuming all the rumors that you have read are true. You forgot to add that Lerner made contact, or attempted to contact other candidates. He met with Cowher, he contacted Homgren, and he attempted twice to contact Shanny and talked to his representative. So, you kinda glossed over some actual facts and submitted some rumors as fact. Just clarifying what went down for sure and reminding you that some of the things you said are rumor. I've also not seen it reported anywhere, nor have I heard anything from anyone, that Lerner is ignoring everyone's advise. In fact, it has been reported that there was extensive research done and he is basing his decisions on that. I have also heard, take it for what you will, form people within the organization that want Mangini to get he job, as well. I haven't been told of anyone wanting another candidate tha is a viable option....though I"m sujre that those I talk to don't know EVERYONE'S preference.
Edited to add....let's not forget McKay was contacted as well, but asked to postpone the interview until other candidates were interviewed. Partly, it has been reported, because the Falcons were in the playoffs and partly because he wanted to decide if his interest and the interest of the Browns before interviewing.
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web page Tuesday, January 6, 2009 BROWNS TO INTERVIEW HECKERT The Cleveland Browns, according to a league source, have asked the Eagles for permission to talk to Tom Heckert about their vacant general manager job. Another league source said a specific time and date has not been established for the interview. Heckert, who has been with the Eagles since May of 2001 and has held the title of general manager since 2006, interviewed last offseason for the Atlanta Falcons' GM job, which went to former New England scouting director Thomas Dimitroff. Although Heckert would like to have final say on personnel decisions, he has said in the past that he is happy with his role as the Eagles' general manager. Bob LaMonte, the agent for Heckert and Eagles coach Andy Reid, said his two clients continue to have an excellent working relationship. Heckert has also said in the past that he would not take a job just to have final say on personnel decisions unless he felt strongly about the organization and it's commitment to winning. The Browns fired both general manager Phil Savage and head coach Romeo Crennel after finishing 4-12 and in last place in the AFC North this season.
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I think Lerner took advice about what he should do (most people said the head coach is more important) and I think he got some good advice. The head coach controls the final product on the field and thus, I'd usually rather have a stud head coach than a stud GM. I think he was on the right track when he talked about all those big names, but it seems that once he entrenched himself in Mangini, he stopped. Liking Mangini is no excuse for bringing in Kokinis who I'm convinced we'd have little to no interest in without Mangini.
I acknowledge much of what I've been reading are rumors, but when you have rumors screaming left and right, it's really hard to interpret them as anything but based in fact. All those rumors say Mangini is a near lock and Kokinis is soon to follow.
Then again, Schefter is reporting we just requested for permission to interview Tom Heckert of Philadelphia. Maybe Mangini/Kokinis is only a 95% lock. I'm hoping this process drags out for some time because I'd feel much better about things if we pursued all our options, including those we have to wait for instead of just jumping to Mangini.
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Mangini is far from a lock. Heckert and Spagnuolo is the combination that has gained little talk but Spagnuolo has the Cowher type of passion and leadership while Heckert has experience building for the Jim Johnson scheme that Spagnuolo runs.
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Heckert/Spagnuolo is a scenario I would absolutely love to see.
Make it happen Phil.
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I like Spagnuolo .. Marty as GM
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Heckert/Spagnuolo is a scenario I would absolutely love to see.
Make it happen Phil.
I would love that pairing over Mangini/Kokinis (though neither has the experience I'd be looking for) but I think it has a snowball's chance in hell of happening at this point. Unless everyone has been getting fed absolute BS about Mangini (which is very doubtful), he's the guy.
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Who do u trust everyone else or me?  lol
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Who do u trust everyone else or me? lol
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As much as I would like to see Mangini as our new head coach, I would be very happy too see Eckert/Spragnoulo (sp) as the new leadership combo. Eckert has been a part of a successful, and classy organization with the eagles. Spragnoulo I would love to give a shot as well. He seems very passionate on the sidelines and obviously has knowledge on how to run a successful defense and get the most out of his personel. If Kokinis is not the answer, then I would be all about Eckert/Sprag.
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I don't think anything is set in stone until Randy get's to interview everyone he set out to interview. If Mangini was the clear cut choice he would have been hired by now.
I just think the media is overhyping the whole Mangini thing because of Randy's reaction when he was told of his firing.
I really don't like the idea of hiring Kokinis (don't really like the Mangini hiring either.)
And I would have to imagine that if the interview go's well with Heckert then Spags will be his number one choice for head coach.
The things Spags has been able to do with the defenses he has worked with have been stellar. The guy is a motivator and has a great mind for football. Which tells me he would make a really good choice to run a team.
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Coach B probably can get a better feel for this thing than me but its weird with Spagnuolo. People talk about Pioli situation. Everyone has an opinion on Mangini. Spagnuolo and Heckert questions get you nadda from anyone.
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I'm not opposed at all to Mangini's no B.S. attitude and coaching style. That being said, my personal choice all along has been Spagnuolo. Think he brings fire and an attacking mentality to his defenses. All in all, I'd be thrilled with either of these two. It seems to me that we're all in a bigger hurry than Lerner because we want the final answer. I'm glad Lerner seems to be taking the time to cross his t's and dot his i's. He wants to make the most educated decision possible to help ensure the success of the Browns. (Either that or he reads this board and is enjoying all our all speculation! 
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Heckert/Spagnuolo is a scenario I would absolutely love to see.
Make it happen Phil.
I would absolutely love the Heckert/Spags combo. But who is this Phil person you are refering too???  
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
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I would love to have Spagnoulo in here as our new coach. I am deffinately on the Mangini bandwagon. He brings everything this team neads to the table. Dicipline, accountability, etc ... I also think Spagnoulo is of the same breed. He's worked for two good organizations. Tom Coughlin is a diciplinarian, and I'm sure Spags is right their with him in that mindset. His defense is a creative and an attacking style, something ours needs desperately. Would he be flexible and work with our 3-4, or convert to 4-3? Who knows, but either way, we still need LB'ers and a new DE.
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Heckert/Spagnuolo is a scenario I would absolutely love to see.
Make it happen Phil.
I would absolutely love the Heckert/Spags combo. But who is this Phil person you are refering too???
Bwahahahahaha i'm so used to saying that these last few years, let it slip. Woops.
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