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Posted January 21st, 2009 by Pat McManamon
What seems like a drawn-out interview for the Browns General Manager job isn't that drawn out at all. George Kokinis has spent a lot of time in Berea this week, and probably will be hired. My guess is we get an announcement today or tomorrow (Wednesday or Thursday) with a news conference to follow. But the process hasn't been illogical.
Owner Randy Lerner first wanted Kokinis to spend time with coach Eric Mangini so the two could see how they could and would work together. Then he wanted Kokinis to meet with some of Mangini's staff. The last step will be for Kokinis and Mangini to meet with Lerner to detail to Lerner how they will work together.
It makes sense.
But it also seems that Kokinis would have had to bring his dog in to tear up the carpet or something to lose his chance at the job. The Browns have been leaning toward hiring him for some time, provided he did not bungle the interview. He has been Mangini's main guy, and folks in Baltimore have pretty much written him off. His hiring seems a matter of time, and the Browns will
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In possibly related news ... the Dolphins completed their sale, and announced last night that Parcells will remain as their general manager. I get the feeling that Randy wanted to see how that turned out, before deciding to pick a GM too early.
Well he would have to wait another 30 days to find out for sure if Parcells decides to opt out. He's got that window allowing him to walk out and we know for sure Parcells does not always do what is being reported.
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That was obviously a backup plan. Kokinis is the GM. There's absolutely no way that you bring a guy in from a rival front office and discuss exactly what you want to do with your team and your overall vision without having him locked up minus the signature on the contract. To give that much information to a guy who is only a possible candidate, who can then turn that information over to Ozzie Newsome would be beyond incompetent. He's the guy. Not sure why the contract isn't finalized though... maybe they're going over the final details.
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Posted January 21st, 2009 by Pat McManamon
What seems like a drawn-out interview for the Browns General Manager job isn't that drawn out at all. George Kokinis has spent a lot of time in Berea this week, and probably will be hired. My guess is we get an announcement today or tomorrow (Wednesday or Thursday) with a news conference to follow. But the process hasn't been illogical.
Owner Randy Lerner first wanted Kokinis to spend time with coach Eric Mangini so the two could see how they could and would work together. Then he wanted Kokinis to meet with some of Mangini's staff. The last step will be for Kokinis and Mangini to meet with Lerner to detail to Lerner how they will work together.
It makes sense.
But it also seems that Kokinis would have had to bring his dog in to tear up the carpet or something to lose his chance at the job. The Browns have been leaning toward hiring him for some time, provided he did not bungle the interview. He has been Mangini's main guy, and folks in Baltimore have pretty much written him off. His hiring seems a matter of time, and the Browns will
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So we're being more thorough than ever making sure everyone is on the same page? From college scouting to pro scouting to coaching staff?
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So we're being more thorough than ever making sure everyone is on the same page? From college scouting to pro scouting to coaching staff?
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Just some general notes.
Its been said that out of Respect to the Inauguration we put back the meeting with Randy (Contract) and signing so as not to offend anyone and upstage the Historic Event.
It seems apparent the evaluation of our current Players is the most important variable in getting this next draft down to be successful. How much change...how many trades should we conduct. Who do we get rid of. What AREAS we need the most impact in from this draft class...FA class.
A lot of HC n GMs are at the Senior Bowl not as this important must be Venue - most there are dependent on their Scouting staffs attending as they conduct a meeting of the minds so to say. As in more a Convention atmosphere than Work for those top guys. They spend more time conducting Interviews than scouting the prospects. Interviews with possible Staff...not prospects.
If this venue was so important they would open it up...or create a similar venue for all those who declare for the draft...not just Seniors.
This is one of the few times the Coaches and GMs can relax have some fun and enjoy themselves leisurely.
JMHO...Mangini and Kokinis have a lot of "REAL WORK" to do. Other new coaches are there cause they still have to put together their Staff and this Convention has a Job Fair connected with it.
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PFT is reporting he's on his way to see Randy in NY as we speak. I would presume to sign the deal.
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To give that much information to a guy who is only a possible candidate, who can then turn that information over to Ozzie Newsome would be beyond incompetent.
True enough if they did give him info he didn't have. Not sure that took place however.
If a guy is interviewing ( yeah, I know, he's probably got the job, I agree with ya) he's not asking all the questions.
Kokinis is the guy responsible for scouting Pro Teams,,, knowing what's on thier rosters, knowing the good, bad and ugly and any tendencies on an opponent.
So I'm really not sure what they could tell hm that he didn't already or at least should already know..
maybe some inside stuff about injuries or something.... I dunno!
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Well he would have to wait another 30 days to find out for sure if Parcells decides to opt out. He's got that window allowing him to walk out and we know for sure Parcells does not always do what is being reported.
I'm not sure Parcells would want to wait 30 days if he really didn't want to remain as GM. It's not like the sale of the Dolphins was an overnight occurance. He knows if he wants to stay or go, and if he did want to leave ... he would likely do it while other teams still had GM openings.
I just think it's more than a coincedence that it was mentioned a month ago that Randy was possibly interested in Parcells, and that the GM hiring has been sort of stalled and drawn out ... but now that word has come out that the Fins sale is complete and Tuna is staying, the signing of Kokinis looks to be completed by the end of the day.
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Its been said that out of Respect to the Inauguration we put back the meeting with Randy (Contract) and signing so as not to offend anyone and upstage the Historic Event.
guess the dolphins didn't care about that......... didn't they finalize their deal yesterday???
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"guess the dolphins didn't care about that......... didn't they finalize their deal yesterday???"
don't know - don't really follow them that close. Just stating what I have read already about us scheduling a later meet with Kokinis rather than Monday night and then announce Tuesday about the signing. Thats when Mangini and staff decided to meet with Kokinis - I believe kokinis went to NY today to meet with Randy. Got to find out where Randy eats  I know he's not at the Hamptons cause all the Restaurants close down in the winter. So he has some favorite Restaurants in the City I'm sure.
Should be having desert right about now...or is it dessert???
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Dessert.
I don't think he's eating sand.
i can still remember my english teacher saying 2 "S"- because you always want double the dessert. And once thru a desert is enough- so only one "S"
that was along time ago- now i feel old.
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Browns, Kokinis nearing deal CLEVELAND (AP)—Browns coach Eric Mangini was encouraged by two days of meetings with Baltimore Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis and indicated his longtime friend will soon be Cleveland’s new general manager. Kokinis, the leading candidate to take over as Browns GM, spoke with team owner Randy Lerner on Wednesday and could be days away from joining the club. It is not known if Lerner offered Kokinis a contract, but the 41-year-old’s hiring seems inevitable. Kokinis spent Monday and Tuesday at the Browns’ headquarters in Berea meeting with Mangini and other members of Cleveland’s coaching staff. “We talked through every different issue that we could think of collectively and it was nice to be able to have that time to do that and over a very concentrated space—just the two of us,” Mangini said at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards. While presenting an award, Mangini, who began his NFL career as a public relations intern with Cleveland, told the audience he anticipated the Browns “will have news in the very short future.” Pressed later on Kokinis’ probable arrival, Mangini said the Browns were being thorough before naming their top football executive. “The way that we’ve done this is that we’ve had different meetings, and in terms of when and where, there’s been a bunch of them,” Mangini said. “Randy and I have been talking a lot and we’re trying to move forward with the decision as quickly as we can. But it’s definitely a process and we’re not going to rush the process.” Kokinis and Mangini started their NFL careers together with the Browns in the early 1990s under former coach Bill Belichick. The two were roommates for a short time. Lerner, who initially interviewed Kokinis on Jan. 11, was not involved in the meetings earlier this week. Mangini hired his offensive and defensive coordinators last week and is expected to announce other assistant coaching hires on Thursday.
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if this guy doesn't sign, he will be able to give our trade secrets to the rats. that's an awful lot of discussing the planning and inner-workings of our team!
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Could the delay be that the Ravens are offering Kokinis their job as GM, because Ozzie has informed them, that after he gets all the contracts completed and the draft is done, he recommends George for his GM spot. Would Kokinis really want to move to Cleveland and up root his family, to take on a job with so many question marks. As opposed to an already establish team, with which he is already very familiar with. Plus, take into account he probably already has a good working relationship with the coaches and staff. That would almost certainly seem like a no brainer for most people. So that would leave us with Mangini and ????, or maybe the Phamtom of opera, as GM. 
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if this guy doesn't sign, he will be able to give our trade secrets to the rats. that's an awful lot of discussing the planning and inner-workings of our team!
Trade Secrets? What trade secrets? It's been Kokinis' job to know Pro Personell for each team the Ravens face. He's scouts them as well as all teams to know what's out there.. The strengths, weaknessess, the good, bad and ugly of each and every player on each and every team. But especially division teams.
Outside of inside info on injuriies and maybe some info on what type of player that Mangini and his coordinators will be looking for. what trade secrets is he gonna come away with?
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You know...
Like how to go six games without scoring an offensive touchdown, things like that!
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Could the delay be that the Ravens are offering Kokinis their job as GM, because Ozzie has informed them, that after he gets all the contracts completed and the draft is done, he recommends George for his GM spot.
I didn't know Ozzie was stepping down as GM.. when did that get reported.. First I've heard of it...
As for why a person would do that... I would suppose there is several possible rreasons.
1. Money
2. Make his own mark. (no matter how good the ravens remain, it will always be ozzies team for at least several years)
3. Work with his old friend Mangini
4. Return to the roots of where he got his start
In truth, there are probably just as many reasons to stay put in Baltimore..
I guess we'll see. Perhaps that's why the other guys were interviewed...
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So, did he box up his office in Baltimore or not ??
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Could the delay be that the Ravens are offering Kokinis their job as GM, because Ozzie has informed them, that after he gets all the contracts completed and the draft is done, he recommends George for his GM spot.
U aren't serious are you??
U really think Ozz would WAIT to do that if he wanted to keep the guy??
lol..he woulda took steps way before this if he intended to keep Coke from leaving..he simply would have denied Lerner the interview..
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U really think Ozz would WAIT to do that if he wanted to keep the guy??
I hadn't thought of that, but I think you are right AD... Ozzie wouldn't have given permission for the Browns to talk to Kokinis if he had a job for him already...
Still, I haven't heard that Ozzie intends to step down...where is that coming from?
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U really think Ozz would WAIT to do that if he wanted to keep the guy??
I hadn't thought of that, but I think you are right AD... Ozzie wouldn't have given permission for the Browns to talk to Kokinis if he had a job for him already...
Still, I haven't heard that Ozzie intends to step down...where is that coming from?
Ozzie is not stepping down, it was a what if he was. At least thats how i took it.
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Like how to go six games without scoring an offensive touchdown, things like that!
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maybe you're right, it wouldn't have any impact...
but some of the things that immediately came to mind were:
-types of players we were looking for (intangibles)
-basic play-calling tendencies, coverage and blocking schemes.
-who we are leaning towards in the draft and free agency (esp. ratbirds players we might be targeting) as well as who we might be releasing instead of trading for picks, or trades we might be looking to make.
-add'l coaching staff we are targeting (rats just lost rex ryan) if they knew we were trying to raid his old def staff, would they promote to block or sign to ext.
might be stuff that any pro pers/ gm could find out, but i'd rather them have to research it. if he signs though, it'll all be a moot point. and, hey maybe we'll know those things about the rats
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CLEVELAND -- Browns coach Eric Mangini was encouraged by two days of meetings with Baltimore Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis and indicated his longtime friend will soon be Cleveland's new general manager.
Kokinis, the leading candidate to take over as Browns GM, spoke with team owner Randy Lerner on Wednesday and could be days away from joining the club.
It is not known if Lerner offered Kokinis a contract, but the 41-year-old's hiring seems inevitable.
Kokinis spent Monday and Tuesday at the Browns' headquarters in Berea meeting with Mangini and other members of Cleveland's coaching staff.
"We talked through every different issue that we could think of collectively and it was nice to be able to have that time to do that and over a very concentrated space -- just the two of us," Mangini said at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards.
While presenting an award, Mangini, who began his NFL career as a public relations intern with Cleveland, told the audience he anticipated the Browns "will have news in the very short future."
Pressed later on Kokinis' probable arrival, Mangini said the Browns were being thorough before naming their top football executive.
"The way that we've done this is that we've had different meetings, and in terms of when and where, there's been a bunch of them," Mangini said. "Randy and I have been talking a lot and we're trying to move forward with the decision as quickly as we can. But it's definitely a process and we're not going to rush the process."
Kokinis and Mangini started their NFL careers together with the Browns in the early 1990s under former coach Bill Belichick. The two were roommates for a short time.
Lerner, who initially interviewed Kokinis on Jan. 11, was not involved in the meetings earlier this week.
Mangini hired his offensive and defensive coordinators last week and is expected to announce other assistant coaching hires on Thursday.
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So it sounds like Kokinis is most definitely coming here. That's good.
Also, I wonder who the "other" assistant coaches are and when on Thursday (today) their hiring will be announced.
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"Also, I wonder who the "other" assistant coaches are "
Tergovac just got canned from the Panthers,bring him home.He would teach these overwieght prima-donna d-linemen some of the finer points of football
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He is from y-town,but he's not a steeler fan.
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Yeah, but Trgovac went to Michigan. So no one will like him. According to Braylon Edwards anyway.
Anyway, he would be an excellent hire, although I don't know if he has a background as a 3-4 guy.
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FYI, there is another thread that now is annoucing some new coaches...... it's in this forum.,.,
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Well, Edwards also said that our jumbotron "sucks" in this week's SI. Trade him!!!!
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Yeah, but Trgovac went to Michigan. So no one will like him. According to Braylon Edwards anyway.
Anyway, he would be an excellent hire, although I don't know if he has a background as a 3-4 guy.
If Braylon played like Thom Darden did, he wouldn't have that problem.
Anybody know if Trg's even got an interview lined up ??
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Well we just hired a D-Line coach and already have a D-Coordinator, so I see no reason why Trgovac would want to or should come here.
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Well, Edwards also said that our jumbotron "sucks" in this week's SI. Trade him!!!!
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I'm from Youngstown and was never a Steeler fan. In my experience, there were as many Browns fans as Steeler fans there.
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