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Did you really think he was going let you get away with the KC game?
He didn't start against KC.
What difference does it make? Trolls don't care about facts. They don't care about DA's obvious deficiancies. They just like to start trouble with nothing to really base it on.
But they always get weeded out and destroyed. This time will be no different.......
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You are right, that was my bad. I forgot that DA didn't start the KC game. Apologies...
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I am not suggesting that the concussion lasted the entire season. My point is that it caused him to miss training camp so he was never able to deveop that timing and rhythm. ie like it too Peyton Manning what 4 games to start clicking and he has been in the same offense with the same receivers for what 6 years and he is one of the hardest working Qb's in the NFL and one of the most talented.
Jester: Was kidding about the concussion time frame, buuut, I believe that he never had much of a timing and rhythm that I saw. Just a heave ho down the field and hope for the best. Oh, and BE, just so happened to be catching footballs at that time. JMHO
Looks like you haven't been on the message board long but you will soon realize that some people would not say that jokingly so without the little smiley I presumed you were serious.
And maybe he never would have developed that timing and rhythym thing but we will never know (just like we don't know anything yet about Quinn as a pro - thanks RAC). I was just tossing out another side to the argument - I don't really believe it, just thought it was worth mentioning.
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You are right, that was my bad. I forgot that DA didn't start the KC game. Apologies...
Hey, it's cool man.
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You are right, that was my bad. I forgot that DA didn't start the KC game. Apologies...
So would you STILL like to compare their "first three starts"?
Are you even willing to admit that Quinn was only healthy for "one complete game"? And how did he perform in that game as a "first NFL start"?
Because most who watched it, were far more impressed at his pocket presence, accuracy and command of the huddle than what we've seen from DA.
If you want to compare the two, apples to apples is the only true test.
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lol I never wanted to compare them, thats stupid, you were the one who wanted to compare them...two complete different situations that don't mean anything right now
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I am not suggesting that the concussion lasted the entire season. My point is that it caused him to miss training camp so he was never able to deveop that timing and rhythm. ie like it too Peyton Manning what 4 games to start clicking and he has been in the same offense with the same receivers for what 6 years and he is one of the hardest working Qb's in the NFL and one of the most talented.
Jester: Was kidding about the concussion time frame, buuut, I believe that he never had much of a timing and rhythm that I saw. Just a heave ho down the field and hope for the best. Oh, and BE, just so happened to be catching footballs at that time. JMHO
Looks like you haven't been on the message board long but you will soon realize that some people would not say that jokingly so without the little smiley I presumed you were serious.
And maybe he never would have developed that timing and rhythym thing but we will never know (just like we don't know anything yet about Quinn as a pro - thanks RAC). I was just tossing out another side to the argument - I don't really believe it, just thought it was worth mentioning.
Jester. Just because I haven't posted much,does not mean I have not been here. Actually, I have been reading posts here for quite sometime. Just chose not to get in all the stuff. I'm not a football "guru", just a fan with an opinion like all the rest on here. Some posters have a lot more knowledge about football than I certainly have, but sometimes I just can't help myself from jumping in on subjects that I feel strongly about. ie. Quinn for one. 
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I think it is obvious we need to choose a starting QB, I just wish we had something more than "potential" and wishful thinking to base the decision on.
One thing does bother me about "oppossing DC's scheming to take away the deep ball". Just how exactly did they manage to get BE to drop 20+ passes? How different would our season, and this debate, be, if BE had caught 12 or so of those?
Would DA have gotten his "rhythm", would we have gone deep more often? Maybe even won some more games?
BQ has potential, sure. So did a whole bunch of past draft choices that are selling insurance today.
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I ain't buyin' this...
That's not how Guaranteed RB's work per the Cap...
There's only 1 individual I'm familiar with who's privy to actual player contracts...No media people ever see a contract...We need to just wait this one out but I still ain't buyin' it...
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I was waiting to get your take...sometimes you provide some appreciated insight.
It sounds funny to me as well. This goes against everything i thought i knew about how a roster bonus worked as well.
I know the league has a way of factoring in bonus money that is attainable and which isn't so attainable.
It could be we wrote the thing in such a way it is guaranteed..
You almost have to look at how savage was dumped. It happened fast...that game ended and Lerner was on the speed dial.
Savage didn't get canned for his text message..there had to be some pretty deep seeded feelings.....we might have signed DA to some deal like this....could be they wanted 10 mil up front and we couldn't do it...
I don't know.
I do know this would be pretty unconventional.....now we have to wait to see if it is correct.
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yeah, this sure does sound strange. I thought last year Savage was being praised for the way the deal was done. It essentially bought another year ('08) to decide on the QB. If the Browns decided to go with Quinn, the contract sounded voidable at little expense, and made it easy to trade DA. Now, if Florio is correct, and the browns are on the hook for $5 million either way, it does change things. If anybody thinks the browns will just flat out cut him, they are way wrong. This could be the most expensive player for pick trade ever. DA's value is in the tanks, I give him a 3rd round pick tops, probably a 4th. That is 5 million for a 3rd or 4th rounder- yikes.
And along these same lines, different player. I thought it was reported at the time last year that the browns had an out with Stallworth as well. Anybody recall how that deal was reported.
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DnD,, you have to take everything that Mike Florio says with a grain of salt. Seems to me that everything I've ever read that he wrote concerning the Browns is negative. We all know there is lots of negatives to write about, but this guy goes to extremes about it,.., Also, I read somewhere where he is a diehard Steelers fan.. that should put everything into perspective  Not that I'm a guru, but this goes against everything I ever understood about roster bonuses or signing bonuses.
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lol I never wanted to compare them,
Yet you were more than willing to until you realised that approach wouldn't suit your agenda. Yes, I can see it clearly now..........
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Actually, if you listened closely to the presser, you will hear him state enough to know that BQ will be the starter. It wasn't when he was asked about the QBs. It was when he was discussing the offense, his choice of OCs, etc. He stated that the offense would be a hybrid of the NE offense and the WCO (paraphrasing the hybrid thing). Since everyone and their granny (save a couple posters who shall remain nameless...for now LOL) knows DA's issues with accuracy in the short game, it pretty much spelled it out.
I also heard a reference to a modified WCO being the offense of choice. Given his advantages (over DA) with regards to short-pass accuracy, quick decisions, ball-handling, and mobility, that can only mean Quinn will be the QB.
Anderson is not a good fit, even as a backup, in that scheme. However, that doesn't mean he won't get some interest if he's made available for trade. When you consider how many teams have issues at QB (Jets, Chiefs, Vikes, Bears, Lions, Bucs), and the fact that Derek is only a year removed from a Pro Bowl appearance and a 10-5 record as a starter, then I don't see why the Browns wouldn't be able to get a 3rd round pick for him - salary cap issues aside.
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And soon, VERY soon, I'll have the oppertunity to rub your face in it.
I do hope you're not serious. 
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What happened to the other Florio article?
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I don't know what happened to it... I was responding to it earlier and it just went puff and was gone.
I asked about it in the fan feedback forum...maybe a ref will tell us
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I also heard a reference to a modified WCO being the offense of choice. Given his advantages (over DA) with regards to short-pass accuracy, quick decisions, ball-handling, and mobility, that can only mean Quinn will be the QB.
Anderson is not a good fit, even as a backup, in that scheme.
Logic in a QB thread?
Who'da thunk it!??
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And soon, VERY soon, I'll have the oppertunity to rub your face in it.
I do hope you're not serious.
In his case? Yes, I most certainly do.
When people "debate things" I have no issue with it. But playing the troll? That's a different matter all together IMO
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Not for years........
And hardly ever for free stuff.
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I think he might be a great backup and keepable in a good offensive coordinator's scheme; he needs coached better. It might be worth a year's look under a rea; OC who can insist on the little stuff. Odd Pro Bowl aside, he will only be a career backup because of inconsistency. None of that makes BQ any better except by comparison, but it does give you a draft day ooportunity for a trade up especially. But lousy deal IMO, just like RAC's extension last season. I howled at the two of them. Shameful allowing this. If I have to pay it, then keep him. But Pluto has a good option here. 
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...You think that BQ is the best possible quarterback we have had in decades? Based on what, those numbers he put up against navy and air force at Notre Dame, or was it all those victories in big games against top competition? It is amazing to me how many people are infatuated with the pretty boy from South Bend. He didn't get it done in college, what makes you think he can now? At least with Anderson we have some evidence of what he is capable of on the football field like the Pro Bowl and 10 wins in 07. Trade Quinn now while is value is high.
I find your response to a very credible post, personally insulting. Please refrain from posting to any of BQ's themes, topics or any posts relating to him. We appreciate your cooperation. Brady Quinns 2009 support team.
Wow another sensible poster, There is a poster on here that rhymes with "Roach" that will blast you on this. You might be called clueless or lost, but you know how that old saying goes...the pot calling the kettle black. There is definately a serious case of infatutation city around here for a QB that looked and played as bad as any QB since we came back. Coach talks about DA being ineffective once they took away the deep ball, yet he does not counter his own argument by explaining what teams did to Quinn by taking away the short pass...less than 50 percent completions on short routes is not a good thing...less than 50% completion percentage on ALL Passes is even worse. Not to mention durability issues now, in that he only lasted three games. So once you take away the short pass for a QB that couldn't complete them and a deep pass he can't throw what do you have left?? Nothing, because the Defense is already stacking the box, and you more than likely will have a bad running game.
Coach, to call me unknowledgable or to Assume I am not connected is laughable. I might not be the highranking Ball boy like some , but I have seen you insult people enough to know you are a poser with a following.
I have worn SuperBowl rings, I have been in the same room when coordinators were being hired, I have known who Headcoaches were going to be before it was even a thought, I have seen Playbooks, I have read draft charts and known the consensus pick before draft day, I have a friend who is a scout for another team in our conference that worked in New York under Tagliabue before that. I have ate dinner with team presidents, swam in their pool, I have met people and players that have had great success in this league. I sat on the 50 for years without ever paying for a ticket or parking, I have been given tickets to go to Soldier Field and sat on the 50. You ever put on a SuperBowl ring? Do you know how heavy they are with all those diamonds and gold....gleaming? So please stop telling people they are clueless...it only makes you look bad even with your 10,000 posts...most of which were probably telling people they were clueless. Here is a fair question for you...to see if you are credible.. Who do the PLAYERS want to be there QB or who do they feel gives them a better shot to win? Tell me I'm clueless...it makes me laugh.
I thought I would be a little more accepted on the QuinnWashers forums. Sensibility and charm. 
I will give you this, Lerner is Quinns biggest fan and could use his trump card. Two years from now, it will be a bad memory and could ruin Mangini and this whole process sooner than later. I would not be surprised to hear of Lerner pushing golden boy on this staff, that is the only way Quinn would be starting. In a open competition, he just couldn't hang against NFL talent. You can make as many excuses as you want why Quinn dropped like a sack of potatoes in the draft in one of the weakest QB classes in some time. You can talk about the Denver game until you are blue in the face and forget everything else including competition level. You can hang your hat on what he did against Army and Navy and Airforce in College where he racked up nice numbers and often padded his stats. He is not a better QB because he has proven nothing, so you can't say that. All that you have is hope and if he is by some act of God our QB, I HOPE you are right.
That being said, Anderson might not be the Answer either...But he has proven a lot in his short time as starter, and you just can't say that about Quinn. There is areason Quinn never legitamately started...He was a desperation move..Which I hope you will admit as such, and he by no means did anything to prove his Pro-ready status.
I admit Quinn is a hard worker, maybe more so than Anderson. But in my eyes, he will only amount to an average QB who is limited in the passing game. He probably has great command of the huddle, I'm sure is a nice kid, and works hard...his game doesn't seperate him from Sorgi or JT O'Sullivan.
I hope I am wrong and a lot of others are wrong about him if he is "destined" to be our starter.
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Based on one game until he broke his finger? Yep! That's credible..... 
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So much garbage in so little time. You might want to go back to the other board where spouting nonsense and laughable tirades when proven wrong is the norm. We have a body of work of 2 season with DA and as I showed you with FACTS, not with some mancrush like you have for DA, DA never improved his game. In fact, he digressed. He has terrible mechanics and footwork. The bottom line is he is not the answer as a franchise QB. You claim to be SOOOOO knowledgeabe, yet you determine the abilities of a QB based on 2 1/2 games and in that time he was injured a great deal of it. We don't know what we have in BQ, only that he has potential, a huge upside, and is suited for the offense that is being brought in. It's the lamest tactic to label anyone that has the football sense to see DA isn't the answer as a BQ lover. It's a pathetic last resort of those ignorant of the game. I don't care if Randy Lerner himself lined up under center if it meant we were winning games. If you have been around "long enough" as you claim, then you will know that your post reeks of pathetic drivel, as I was on here DEFENDING DA while you were on the other board spreading your....ermm...wisdom. Judging by the sad content of your posts, you realy should stick to the other board. I think Purp should have a football IQ test to be able to join the board. That would keep those like you that THINK they have a clue and couldn't find a footbal with two hands and a flashlight from cluttering the board with this type of nonsense.
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I think Purp should have a football IQ test to be able to join the board. That would keep those like you that THINK they have a clue and couldn't find a footbal with two hands and a flashlight from cluttering the board with this type of nonsense.
You mean he quit the teasting?
Thank GOD for the flashlight or I never would have found that damned football!
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Okay loyal. Put it to the test. Coach has proven time and again that he does have/get some inside info. Many, many times he has said "hey, hold on people, the story you're getting today is NOT the real story. You'll find out soon enough". And, lo and behold, within a week or less, he's been proven right.
Coach has his past predictions and information to go on. He's been proven. People tend to believe those types of people.
You? You have a friend that's a scout. Great. Can you prove it? I wouldn't even dream of asking you to name names simply because that is one way to lose your insider info, we all know that. So, can you tell us what team your friend scouts for? Can you name one person that team is after? We'll be waiting.
I have swam in pools of millionaires. Does that make me a millionaire? No. I've been out of the country, does that make me a foreigner?
I am related to a current nascar driver. I've even raced. Does that make me a nascar driver? Does that give me the inside scoop on all things nascar? No.
I've been on a plane and have a cousin that is a pilot. Does that make me a pilot? Does that mean I know more about flying than you do? No.
Here's a hint: instead of telling us how much you know, and how much of an insider you are and expecting us to believe it, perhaps you should prove it.
I can't get away with saying things about the browns like coach can. Know why? When I say something, it is just that - my opinion. Coach has gone against the grain many times, to the dismay and chagrin of many on here. Only to be proven right within days.
Perhaps you could enamor us with your inside info, as opposed to just telling us how much you know. This board is full of people that "know" everything. Coach is one that has been proven right. There are one or 2 others as well.
Everyone can have an opinion, no problem there. But until you are proven in your opinions, it is just that: your opinion.
I could tell you right now who the next gm of the browns is going to be. And it would be my opinion. I might even be right. That would be 1 for 1 for me. Should that make me legit? Heck no. If I'm 50 for 50 on insider info, yeah, then perhaps people should take what I say as truth. Inside info is just that: info that us outsiders (99.9% of this board) do not have. What do you have for us?
Go ahead and disagree with coach. I do, often. However, when it comes to the Browns, I have found disagreeing with his inside info proves useless. I have, and will continue to disagree with him on some things - which play should've been run, whether to take a timeout at a certain spot or not, who missed a block, etc. Those are subjective things - everyone has an opinion and most times there is no right or wrong.
When it comes to inside info, when you have made a statement prior to the facts being known, and you are proven right time after time, then you will get the respect you want.
I was in Chicago recently, at a restaurant, and I saw about 10 super bowl rings. Does that make me smarter? I know many doctors, and they know me, from a friendship standpoint. Does that make me a doctor? Does that give me an inside scoop on medical issues? I played basketball against Shawn Kemp when I was in college (I'm older than he is - it was open gym) does that make me a pro? Does that mean I have the inside scoop on the nba?
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Oh, one last thing: I thought about editing my previous post, but thought it would be better to reply instead: If coach starts being proven wrong, all the correct things he has posted will not matter. His reputation as an insider will begin to wain. If and when he posts "inside" info that is proven wrong, his reputation as an insider will fade just as quickly, if not quicker, than the reputation he built up.
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Only 2 are on that list of RB free agents that I would be remotely interested in. Darren Sproles (though a little on the small side) and Ward (I've always loved his running style, but curious if his success' were as a result of the offensive system he is in i.e. "the denver RB factory" of the early 2000s.
Subject of this post?????
I understand the subject. I was just thinking out loud with the RB list. 
How's this for the topic. At least either one should be a pretty servicable career backup. lol.
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I know many doctors, and they know me, from a friendship standpoint. Does that make me a doctor?
Well yes it does. Or was it my 4 years of medical school
Anyway - well said. A lot of people argue with CoachB's opinion (which is often wrong ) but when he says it is based on insider info it usually turns out to be true.
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The subject is stupid. Over and over we go over the same tired arguements.
DA might still have a chance to be a good starter...Just not here.I would prefer to keep him as our no. 2. If BQ struggles we will have debates anyway no matter who our backup QB is. If Quinn gets hurt we will at least have a QB who has been able to win NFL games.
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You may think you "know" who the better QB is but sorry pal the facts speak for themselves. If you didn't have such a man crush on Brady then you might be able to see that.
This goes for a lot on here. I'd love to see the outcome of this thing 3 years from now. Know our luck, neither will be here starting. 1 most likely will be riding pine as a backup.
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I know many doctors, and they know me, from a friendship standpoint. Does that make me a doctor?
Well yes it does. Or was it my 4 years of medical school
Anyway - well said. A lot of people argue with CoachB's opinion (which is often wrong ) but when he says it is based on insider info it usually turns out to be true.
And like I said, I disagree with him on many things football wise, but that's when he states his opinion. When he says something along the lines of "you'll find out in a few days" then I take it to heart. If and when he starts being wrong, I'll take that to heart as well. Until then?
If he says "geez, we should've passed at that time" and I disagree with him, I'll say it. And neither one of us is right or wrong. If he says "x player is losing respect in the locker room", I'm going to believe it.
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DA might still have a chance to be a good starter...Just not here.
I agree. I think he would be a perfect fit in Minnesota. Their offense is based on the running game and really use the pass to open of lanes for Peterson. And they do not seem to have the big egos on their offense that we do.
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
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The subject is stupid. Over and over we go over the same tired arguements.
DA might still have a chance to be a good starter...Just not here.I would prefer to keep him as our no. 2. If BQ struggles we will have debates anyway no matter who our backup QB is. If Quinn gets hurt we will at least have a QB who has been able to win NFL games.
True. Thats what I think as well and serves as the best scenario in keeping both. The only thing is, the ignorant, tasteless foghorns at the games that root more for the backups than the guys on the field and cheer when players go down will chase away DA. If I was that guy, I'd demand trade and go somewhere where I'll be wanted....and yes, he will be desired elsewhere.
To those trade talkers. Getting a 3rd or 4th for DA is more than what we gave up for him - a 6th I believe.
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You are incorrect. We didn't give up anything for him. He was Baltimore's 6th round pick. When they attempted to hide him on the PS we grabbed him for nothing.
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So, we would have gained something in the whole deal in the end. Gave up a nothing and receive a 3 or 4 a couple years later. That's why I don't stress out about it that much. Plus, I guess I'm kind of used to swapping QBs every 2 or 3 years!
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Do you feel better now coach...you don't have much, Thus the insults. What would be the test for this boards knowledge currently? Does Quinn look good in a Uniform? A ...Yes makes them knowledgable. Here are Peyton Mannings and Derek Andersons first years stats. Peyton had 28 interceptions. You think maybe that the team degressed not just ONE player? NAAA. some Other QB's with bad footwork include or included at one time.. Joe Flacco Phillip Rivers Brett Favre among others. G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate PM 16 575 326 56.7 35.9 3,739 6.5 233.7 26 4.5 28 4.9 78T 42 8 22 109 71.2 DA 16 527 298 56.5 32.9 3,787 7.2 236.7 29 5.5 19 3.6 78T 53 6 14 109 82.5 BQ 3 89 45 50.6 29.7 518 5.8 172.7 2 2.2 2 2.2 42 5 1 1 9 66.6 I wouldn't read anything into these stats....A disapointing start to 08 along with bad play from everyone, is definately reason to give way to this^^^. You people don't understand how to develop QB's. Anderson has vastly improved his footwork and his game. Just google it. Footwork is something that is fixable, but when you are 6'6. Footwork is not your biggest asset and it isn't for guys like Manning, Rivers, Flacco, Cutler, and other pure pocket passers. Anderson was one of the fewest QB's sacked last year due to his improved footwork, play fake abilities and quick decisions. Being able to step up in the pocket is all part of footwork and he did just fine. Doing a little jump pass over the defender, is not great footwork and throwing off your front foot isn't either, it is a recipe for disaster. Yes Quinn can scramble, but so could Frye. If that is what you want, he is your man. Lineman appreciate a guy they know how to protect. If I remember right, Anderson had a 40 yard scramble or so....maybe in 2006. Does that mean he should be fit for a West Coast offense? Quinns durability is now a new issue with him, considering he lasted 2 games before being out for the season. This is a rough game and not for the weak, and fragile. Telling someone they need a flashlight and bla bla, is funny considering who made the comment. I will take the high road and refrain from such Childish comments. Thanks for not answering any of my questions.
"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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U did all that??? I'm damn impressed...Only problem is... U use STATS and as is said frequently...U didn't learn a damn thing cause??? STATS R 4 LOSERS...lol... Quite frankly...I'd be embarrassed to even admit I allowed u what u claim you've done after reading u 4 the last 5 days... Folks...I believe the wisest thing here is to use that there "Ignore" function on this here new boy...
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Folks...I believe the wisest thing here is to use that there "Ignore" function on this here new boy
I take that back...
This here kinda thing is quite amusing and makes the off season dead time go a bit quicker...As nauseating as it might be... 
Go Browns!!!
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