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Ignore stats. Look with your EYES. Look at the horrible footwork and horrible accuracy. You see the questionable decisions. You see his lack of growth after teams took away the deep ball (something I immediately noticed when his play declined).
Let me tell you something, me and Coach weren't exactly on good terms a couple years ago. I trashed Charlie Frye and he relentlessly defended him. But I think I know when he's right on certain topics and when he's full of hot air...I think he's right here.
Frye had a year plus to crumble, take sacks and be a bumbling stumbling mess. People would throw stats in my face about his completion percentage and tales of wrong routes (which I believe to be true but nevertheless didn't phase me with my thoughts on him)...but I looked with my EYES. Frye failed the eyeball test to me.
Anderson fails the eyeball test in a different way. Look at how many passes are too high, too far left or right. He's not accurate, especially on the short passes. Even when he was putting up monster numbers, it didn't "look right." As in the accuracy just wasn't there. He couldn't throw on the run to save his life. Ron Jaworski once said on MNF "There's no such thing as too much time to throw." With Anderson, I believe the opposite. Unless he gets the ball out right on time, he struggles.
Quinn has shown some flashes with the eyeball test. We don't know enough yet to see how he'll do. But I've noticed great footwork, a quick dropback, solid touch on his throws and an ability to throw downfield and on the run (which he hasn't used much but then again he hasn't had much of a chance yet). This doesn't factor in his huddle presence (which I believe to be superior to DA).
Despite my sig, I do not have a mancrush on Quinn. If he doesn't show me enough this coming season then it'll be time to move on. But I definitely think DA is done.
EDIT: One more thing...I don't think Chud gave Quinn the best chance to win because his system didn't fit his strengths. Honestly I don't know why we let Jeff Davidson go. This isn't hindsight, I just don't think he got a fair shake.
Nice post Ammo, you didn't insult no one and call them names and you have a comment that is well written. A few on here could learn a lesson from you.
I can't argue that Brady doesn't have great footwork and nice dropback. Brady does tend to be innaccurate throwing on the run, and I also think he is slow in making decisions. He throws a bad long ball, (Wobbly, bad trajectory, and off target), but those are just some of my opinions from watching him and some scouting reports too. I know Rip was working on his trajectory, and Cam Cameron spent months with him. Maybe he will be fine, maybe not. I know what DA can do, and would rather further develop him and the team around him instead of getting rid of him and starting fresh with an untested Quinn who from watching in College, Camp and Pros has not shown me anything that says he is worth starting over. I believe his trade value is highest now than it will ever be and with the new coaches coming in it would be the best time to make an informed decision on who to keep and trade the other. I just happen to think DA ceiling is way higher than Quinns will ever be in terms of franchise QB's and QB's you can build around. But hey that is my Opinion.
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i know he played the giants game....and i do think he was a big part of our lines success 2 years ago...
if he's healty and has a few more years left, then it might just give us the ability to go with other options in the draft....
he can't have many years left on his contract, and he's certainly getting old and banged up....but it would be sweet if he could return...
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he can't have many years left on his contract, and he's certainly getting old and banged up....but it would be sweet if he could return...
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It would indeed,, but I'd still try to find his replacement this year.. Draft or FA,, don't care which. But Tucker, as tough a guy as he is, can't last forever.. we need to find his replacement... JMO
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Just to refresh your memory, Ammo, I didn't necessarily "defend" Frye, I explained WHY he was having some of the issues that you wer blaming him for. There is a difference, as Damanshot and I were just discussing on PM. Just because a person corrects or gives insight to a situation doesn't mean they are sold on them. I never once said that Charlie was a starting caliber QB. I did, however, point out the reasons why he did what made you so angry.....and those things were verified in the media later on. Charlie, despite being someone I am close to, has and will continue to have holes in his game. I have always acknowledged that. I just tried to point out when things were unfarily placed on his shoulders. Trust me, my friendship with Charlie did not blind me to his play. If my son was the QB for the Browns and was hurting the team I'd be screaming to trade him LOL. I have "defended" people because of unfair statements made or things attibuted to a player or coach that isn't necessarily their fault. Explaining the "why" isn't the same as defending them.....kinda like saying DA isn't a good fit for our system and has deficiencies in his game doesn't mean you think BQ is the next Montana.
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he is slow in making decisions.
This couldnt be due to the fact that he has played about 14 quarters of NFL football?
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I know what DA can do
Which is what, in all your posts you have yet to state what it is that DA can do, or has done. Please, expound, what can DA do?
You keep banging the "we don't know enough about Quinn" drum, which is correct, we don't. And in the same freaking breath inject a huge double standard, you want to give DA more time to develop, which means to this point, he HASNT DEVELOPED.
You don't want to give Quinn a chance to develop after 3 games, you write Quinn off after 3 games. BUT in the same sentence still wanna give DA a chance after 25?
Which is it, can we write QB's off after a few game or not? You contradict yourself over and over. And have to yet to show what "DA does". 
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Just to refresh your memory, Ammo, I didn't necessarily "defend" Frye, I explained WHY he was having some of the issues that you wer blaming him for. There is a difference, as Damanshot and I were just discussing on PM. Just because a person corrects or gives insight to a situation doesn't mean they are sold on them. I never once said that Charlie was a starting caliber QB. I did, however, point out the reasons why he did what made you so angry.....and those things were verified in the media later on. Charlie, despite being someone I am close to, has and will continue to have holes in his game. I have always acknowledged that. I just tried to point out when things were unfarily placed on his shoulders. Trust me, my friendship with Charlie did not blind me to his play. If my son was the QB for the Browns and was hurting the team I'd be screaming to trade him LOL. I have "defended" people because of unfair statements made or things attibuted to a player or coach that isn't necessarily their fault. Explaining the "why" isn't the same as defending them.....kinda like saying DA isn't a good fit for our system and has deficiencies in his game doesn't mean you think BQ is the next Montana.
I remember it being a little more intense than that. 
Anyway, I don't wanna dig up that mess. I was just trying to put it in perspective because Loyal is embarassing himself by debating wrong. It's like debating with Mensa all over again.
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My point is if we go O-line,,,some will go nuts.
I would definitely be happy with picking up a solid RT or RG with a high pick. If we can find a stud RG that would defintiely help make up for Fraley's and Shaffer's deficiencies. If we are willing to fork out the money for someone like Suggs, our defense will definitely pick up. Our secondary isn't as weak as most proclaim, just inexperienced and youthfull. Resigning Holly will help with depth. But addressing the line will certainly help whoever is under center. We may even see JLs numbers increase.
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I wouldn't mind going o-line if we could taker either Oher or Monroe, but my preference would be to trade down...
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Well, so far, Anderson has the upper hand. And this may be Quinn's time to shine. After being as a backup, for two years!
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Out of curiosity, how exactly does Anderson have the upper hand? Currently, he's the deposed starter who's slated to be paid a $5 million dollar roster bonus in two months, while the 1st round pick sits there with a very cap-friendly contract. He also happens to be the hometown boy.
I'm interested in hearing how you came to that conclusion.........
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Out of curiosity, how exactly does Anderson have the upper hand? Currently, he's the deposed starter who's slated to be paid a $5 million dollar roster bonus in two months, while the 1st round pick sits there with a very cap-friendly contract. He also happens to be the hometown boy.
I'm interested in hearing how you came to that conclusion.........
You can say the same about Quinn and his salary. If he takes 70% of the snaps he is due 11 million. You can make a case that they could save 11 million in cap room on essentially an unproven QB. The source is Rotoworld. Just saying.
Signed a five-year, $9.25 million contract. The deal contains $7.75 million guaranteed, including a $4.3 million roster bonus in the second year. Another $11 million is available though escalators in 2010 and 2011 based on Quinn taking at least 55% of the snaps in each of the first two years or at least 70% in his third season. Another $9.8 million is available, but is unlikely to be earned. 2008: $370,000, 2009: $655,000, 2010-2011: $700,000, 2011: Free Agent
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You can say the same about Quinn and his salary. If he takes 70% of the snaps he is due 11 million. You can make a case that they could save 11 million in cap room on essentially an unproven QB. The source is Rotoworld. Just saying.
Signed a five-year, $9.25 million contract. The deal contains $7.75 million guaranteed, including a $4.3 million roster bonus in the second year. Another $11 million is available though escalators in 2010 and 2011 based on Quinn taking at least 55% of the snaps in each of the first two years or at least 70% in his third season. Another $9.8 million is available, but is unlikely to be earned. 2008: $370,000, 2009: $655,000, 2010-2011: $700,000, 2011: Free Agent
I think for the first time Loyal has actually made a good point, and supported his point with a fact.
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Does that mean that the Browns would have to make a decision on him before he is due the 11 million? Who would pay a first year QB 11 million, especially if he stinks up the joint? They paid him 4.3 million bonus last year to ride the pines for 8 games so I don't think the 5 million to DA would be a problem either. I wonder what the unattainable 9.8 million is in his contract...probably Pro-Bowl or SuperBowl money.
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Ok, dont push it. I didnt say I agree with you. Just said you did make one good point. I personally think DA is horrible and I hope we trade his sorry behind.
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Definately Trade bait.
Proven winner with Pro-Bowl resume for 1.45 million plus 5 million bonus
or a first year starter possible bust for 11 million plus salary of 700,00? I stick with Anderson coach him and the team up, improve the D using that Quinn money and we are set. Get back to 2007 form and have a Defense that holds opponents to under 20 points a game, and we should be highly successful, especially considering we should have a lighter schedule.
2/29/2008: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $14.5 million in guarantees, including a $7 million signing bonus. Another $1 million is available through incentives based on Pro Bowls and performance. 2009: $1.45 million (+ $5 million roster bonus due in March), 2010: $7.45 million (+ $2 million roster bonus), 2011: Free Agent
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Out of curiosity, how exactly does Anderson have the upper hand? Currently, he's the deposed starter who's slated to be paid a $5 million dollar roster bonus in two months, while the 1st round pick sits there with a very cap-friendly contract. He also happens to be the hometown boy.
I'm interested in hearing how you came to that conclusion.........
You can say the same about Quinn and his salary. If he takes 70% of the snaps he is due 11 million. You can make a case that they could save 11 million in cap room on essentially an unproven QB. The source is Rotoworld. Just saying.
Signed a five-year, $9.25 million contract. The deal contains $7.75 million guaranteed, including a $4.3 million roster bonus in the second year. Another $11 million is available though escalators in 2010 and 2011 based on Quinn taking at least 55% of the snaps in each of the first two years or at least 70% in his third season. Another $9.8 million is available, but is unlikely to be earned. 2008: $370,000, 2009: $655,000, 2010-2011: $700,000, 2011: Free Agent
I don't believe it reads exactly the way you're viewing it, as the money is spread out over 2010 and 2011. This upcoming season is 2008, where his base is $370k. He's allready received that roster bonus from last year.
According to USA Today, his cap number for 2008 is only $1.4+ million.
Now if this conversation were happening in 2010, it'd be a different story.
In case you're interested, here's the USA Today link: Quinn's numbers for '08
So it's rather apparent that Quinn is far cheaper than Anderson not only in '08, but beyond.
Mangini would have to absolutely LOVE Anderson to keep him around based on the money he's due. I'd like him to stay, but common sense says he's trade-bait.
Advantage: Quinn.
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And please drop that Pro Bowl reference. He backed in. Which would be fine had he not stunk up the joint when he got in the game. In a game designed to let the QB shine.
So, while DA may stay and you may love him, please don't call him a Pro Bowl QB.
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Pit, he's just a troll trying to argue for the sake of arguement. Everything he's stated has been proven wrong. The good news is, school is back in session so he can only post after and on weekends...and hopefully mommy has set an early curfew. 
This pretty much says it all Coach. And I'm done feeding the troll.
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"The reason why no one cares about the broken finger is because it was said by the coaches and brady himself that it didn't effect him."
Spoken like a true OG...lol
Come on...even a lay man can figure this one out. Go outside, heck if you trust your aim...go inside and use the couch. Try to throw with authority (hard) try to throw with a tight spiral. And just see what kind of influence it has (as in pressure) on the index finger. Do you realize what a fracture on that index finger would feel like. Brady said it wouldn't bother him...lol  yeah and just what does that great starting pitcher tell his coach in the 7th inning when he's asked - can he go one more. These kids think they are Super man. It definitely effected his throws...Does that mean all we can do is look at the one game and KNOW with 100% certainty that BQ has it? No I don't think so.
But those that work with him daily should have an inkling...Mangini will evaluate and decide. Just from one thing that he said I think its Quinn.
I forgot what it was word for word in his presser when asked on the subject. But it had something to do with the presence of controlling the huddle...who does it best. Meaning leadership skills. All reports I've heard from coaches and Players is BQ's leadership skills wow them. Glad we won't go on who throws a prettier ball in practice
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You hit it on the head, eo. Og didn't mention that AFTER the game, BQ admitted the finger DID affect his throws.
Also, you are right about commanding the huddle There is more than one person talking in the huddle when DA is the QB, and they are harping about getting the ball. When BQ takes the huddle, he controls it. This is according to the people I talk to.
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These kids think they are Super man. It definitely effected his throws..
U bet it did...He ended up with PINS in it...Who ever gets pins in a fractured finger? A splint for a week is about all I ever had...NINE times from football craziness...Never a pin...Imagine that finger was pretty serious...
And he still goes out and plays...Some would call it Stupidity...I call it TOUGHNESS...
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Also, you are right about commanding the huddle There is more than one person talking in the huddle when DA is the QB, and they are harping about getting the ball. When BQ takes the huddle, he controls it. This is according to the people I talk to.
This might mean nothing, but I always thought it was a telling sign on the two QBs and their style. I noticed in preseason this season, when BQ was in the huddle, I could SEE his eyes and he would be looking directly at all the other players in the huddle as he was giving them the play. I didn't notice that from DA. DA looked to be either looking down or looking at the play on his wristband.
Just something small I noticed, and maybe is has no real bearing on the Qbs, but I liked the way BQ does it. It shows understanding, confidence, and leadership.
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This alone, as compared to Anderson, is good enough for me--fail or not.
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This alone, as compared to Anderson, is good enough for me--fail or not.
Come on man...failing is never good enough......but I do understand your emotions.
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It is when the converse is watching Anderson struggle,...
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Also, you are right about commanding the huddle There is more than one person talking in the huddle when DA is the QB, and they are harping about getting the ball. When BQ takes the huddle, he controls it. This is according to the people I talk to.
This might mean nothing, but I always thought it was a telling sign on the two QBs and their style. I noticed in preseason this season, when BQ was in the huddle, I could SEE his eyes and he would be looking directly at all the other players in the huddle as he was giving them the play. I didn't notice that from DA. DA looked to be either looking down or looking at the play on his wristband.
Just something small I noticed, and maybe is has no real bearing on the Qbs, but I liked the way BQ does it. It shows understanding, confidence, and leadership.
I think that's a positive sign of his leadership capabilities.
I noticed that body language too in the preseason and games alike. You could also notice the difference in efficiency of the huddle, we had none of those delay of game penalties with Quinn. I just hope he has the freedom to call audibles and protections as he sees fit, cuz I think he has those intelligence qualities about him.
Now the question becomes how long will it take for the game to slow down for him? He's already had two years to learn with some some work in there, a la Philip Rivers. I think the two are very similar in terms of intelligence, arm strength and leadership (although I don't foresee Quinn being the jawing-to-Ben Roethlisberger type like Rivers to Cutler).
I think it's imperative to follow the Philip Rivers model for success. In other words, we need to develop a running game that'll force defenses to put eight in the box. (in stark contrast to the 2nd half of '07 where teams ignored the run and took the deep ball away from DA...hence why Jamal ran wild...Ryan Tucker returning helped that too)
Runningback and OL may be a premium this offseason to help this fact out.
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Just something small I noticed, and maybe is has no real bearing on the Qbs, but I liked the way BQ does it. It shows understanding, confidence, and leadership.
There's a false belief that one QB was a leader while the other wasn't, or that one was more respected than the other.
They are two different people with two different personalities and styles. One way of doing things isn't better than the other. If Anderson had failed as a leader, it would have come out after he was benched.
There are plenty of reasons to like one guy over the other, but the above isn't one of'em.
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Point taken but I think you can make the argument that one might be more effective than the other.
Not everyone can be the best. Two guys might both have leadership qualities packaged different ways, but almost always when comparing two things, you can rank one ahead of the other.
Just a thought.
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I think it falls under the same false impression that some people have about HC's showing emotion on the sidelines.
There's no "one size fits all" on how to succeed. Tom Landry had no problems being successfull. And there's a long list of those who held their composure being successfull.
I like you have my prefrance as to which of the two I prefer. But my opinion isn't based on how they conduct themselves in the huddle.
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Another thought is if you aren't on the team, it is hard to distinguish who might be a better leader.
As Toad said....people can pick out other things, but leadership isn't something we can rate.
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Point taken but I think you can make the argument that one might be more effective than the other.
The psych classes will tell you that it's more important to stay true to your personality than to try and force yourself to be something you aren't. In today's NFL, many (if not most) of the QB's have to make the calls in the huddle from the plays on their wrists. They aren't afforded the opportunity to "look the players in the eyes" in the huddle.
There are fiery leaders like Delhomme, then there are quiet leaders like Kosar. One isn't better than the other based on philosophy, but rather on effectiveness.
If Quinn were quiet and unassuming in the huddle, he'd be playing out of his character, and it would be deemed a weakness.
If Anderson were to suddenly start acting like Delhomme, players would look at him as though he's trying too hard and it would be deemed a weakness.
I would agree that one would be more effective than the other, but only if each player is acting as they should. To that end, we haven't seen enough of Quinn to know if he's effective or not. All that many have seen is a style that they, as individuals, may perceive to be better based on nothing more than their belief such a style is more effective.
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I happen to think that as far as 'leadership' goes, I will take what DA has to offer over BQ...but as has been mentioned since, it's just a thought.
At this juncture I'm fairly certain that anyone leaning DA/BQ is merely relying on a personal preference or a gut instinct. Everyone is quick to say 'I don't worship them...' But there truth is, both play entirely different games, and neither of them has shown much at all. I think both guys probably should've been third or fourth round picks. And I think neither has done much in their lifetime careers but throw flashes. It comes down to which guy you like better, or which QB style you appreciate.
I'll be the first to say the I have a preference for DA and think that while his potential is spotty, so is BQ's...and I'd take my slim chances on DA over my slim chances with BQ. However, I'm fully ready to admit that my preference is nothing more than a hunch and a slight bias.
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I think it falls under the same false impression that some people have about HC's showing emotion on the sidelines.
There's no "one size fits all" on how to succeed.
That's a perfect analogy.
While I do feel as though RAC didn't show enough fire when his players screwed up in games, if he suddenly started trying to act like Cowher out there, I'd be the first one calling him a "phony actor." That simply isn't his personality. Conversely, if Cowher suddenly became stoic like Tom Landry, we'd all be saying he's "lost the fire to coach and has given up."
People can rightly question things about Anderson, such as accuracy and his frankenstein-feet, but there's been zero evidence to suggest he's not respected or has failed as a leader. The truth is that respect born from leadership is earned, not given. Quinn hasn't had the chance to prove he's a leader, because if he starts ordering around the team, they'll turn on him because of his age and inexperience. It's a positive that he was a leader in college, but that isn't the NFL. Only time will tell if the things he does make him a leader or not.
As for Anderson, he started earning that last year. Again, time will tell if he has that in him, though it likely won't be as a Brown. His style is uniquely his own, and to that end, he was effective. This past season was a complete wash from the get-go for both QB's because of how bad the offense crashed right from the first day of camp. From the coaches to the receivers to the QB's to the injuries to the line, it was a complete waste, telling us nothing.
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I think the fact we've seen DA for twenty plus starts, we're a lot closer to knowing what we have in DA. And many don't like what they've seen.
BQ only had one healthy game as a starter and looked pretty good from the gate.
I'm not going to judge him on one game, but I saw more potential in that game than I've seen from DA. I know it was against a poor Bronco's D. But it was also his first start. The "big time" didn't seem to rattle him at all IMO So from that standpoint, I was fairly impressed.
And some refuse to consider that one and three quarters of the following games were with a broken finger that needed to be sugicly repaired.
So I can see more potential and upside in BQ from that. But potential and upside do not gauruntee anything but hope.
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Well...Well...Well... This from James Walker ESPN...Ex Columbus Dispatch Browns Reporter... Seven-step drop January 12, 2009 1:30 PM Posted by ESPN.com's James Walker With free agency less than two months away, the Derek Anderson sweepstakes could catch steam. I was told last week that at least two teams -- one from each conference -- began doing "homework" on the Cleveland Browns' backup quarterback. I'm not ready to divulge the teams just yet because it's still preliminary and I'm waiting for more details. But with a new head coach on board in Eric Mangini, it's difficult to tell whether Anderson will still be available via trade. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcnorth/0-1-507/Seven-step-drop.html
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I've never questioned DA as a leader. In fact, I"ve defended him as such last season. However, what I am referring to is taking control of the huddle. DA had a weakness that Charlie had......too many people in the huddle talking and calling for the ball. They let it get into they heads and listened to it. BQ doesn't do that. He takes control of the huddle. If you stop the chirping for the ball, you stop it from getting into your head. That way you aren't even subconsciously making decisions on where to go with the ball based on crying in the huddle. That IS an issue. The QB has to take control of the huddle. It isn't about personality. It's about defusing the problems we've seen with the last two starting QBs allowing other voices to be heard from in the huddle.
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But with a new head coach on board in Eric Mangini, it's difficult to tell whether Anderson will still be available via trade.
Walker's high or something, we are gonna be running a type of the WCO...hhhhmmmm which QB is suited for that?
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But with a new head coach on board in Eric Mangini, it's difficult to tell whether Anderson will still be available via trade.
Walker's high or something, we are gonna be running a type of the WCO...hhhhmmmm which QB is suited for that?
You have no idea what you are talking about,DA is a proven,Pro Bowl QB!! In that WCO his throws into the ground,3 feet away from the receivers will be highly successful. Get rid of that bum Brady Quinn!! 
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Get rid of that bum Brady Quinn!!
Seriously, he is a bum.
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