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Didnt see this posted Here he talks about what Mangini needs to do to make the Browns successful, what he might do next season, and the powers of Crennel and Savage. http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80dffff5
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Can anyone give us the gist of what he said? I'm at work and the computer is ridiculously slow. Thanks.
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Can anyone give us the gist of what he said? I'm at work and the computer is ridiculously slow. Thanks.
Simple...
He says "THEY" all over the place...
Mangini needs to bring the "D"...As in DISCIPLINE...
Pick a QB and STICK with em'...Quinn...lol...
He has no idea what he wants to do right now...
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He says that Savage had "all the power" for personnel, and he thinks that the HC needs to have more power in personnel decisions... He said that RAC didn't get a fair chance to coach the team.
He thinks that there is a possibility that a large contract player may get cut if that player won't buy into the new system.
He said the team needs discipline...
He said they need to pick a QB and STICK WITH HIM, no switching out. He doesn't say whether it should be Quinn or DA.
He says he hasn't made a decision about retiring or not. He says he will want to win, whether its in Cleveland or somewhere else.
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He says "THEY" all over the place...
I noticed that too.. it's like he was disassociating himself from the situation and not trying to personalize it... like he was a reporter on the outside looking in or something..
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Well, if that wasn't the slickest toss of a GM under a bus I've ever seen, I don't know what else might qualify...
Wow, asked point blank, was RAC given a fair shake in Cleveland,, the answer was no. he wasn't.
He made reference to RAC not getting the players he wanted.. yet, to hear Phil talk, it was always a collaboration between him and RAC.. sounds like, at least according to Willie, Phil was blowing sunshine up our skirts...
He referred to the Old parcels adage,, if you want me to cook the meal, I gotta pick the groceries thing.
He also made it clear that Mangini has to instill the BIG D....as in DISIPLINE.
Willie seemed to make it clear that Phil was the primary reason for the downfall in Cleveland..
I'm thinking that Lerner feels the same way. Look at how he's going about addressing the new hires.. he goes out and gets a guy that will put it to the players,,, my way or the highway. He's looking for a GM type that will work in harmony with the new HC..
Willie also made it clear that Mangini is the one running the show now....
Interesting interview... it should be required listening for every browns fan.
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I noticed that too.. it's like he was disassociating himself from the situation and not trying to personalize it... like he was a reporter on the outside looking in or something..
I think that makes perfect sense.. his contract is up, he's a FA, and as of this moment, he's IS more of a reporter than a player... so the THEY talk is really right in context for his situation... makes lots of sense..
And yeah, I forgot, he did say they needed to pick a QB and stick to thier decision..no more flipfloping.
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From everything thats been reported ..it's a given that the breakdown was that Opie didn't Rac his type of players..I think after the Mo fiasco..Opie took the reigns...and didn't give Rac the freedom he needed.
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Well, if that wasn't the slickest toss of a GM under a bus I've ever seen, I don't know what else might qualify...
Wow, asked point blank, was RAC given a fair shake in Cleveland,, the answer was no. he wasn't.
He made reference to RAC not getting the players he wanted.. yet, to hear Phil talk, it was always a collaboration between him and RAC.. sounds like, at least according to Willie, Phil was blowing sunshine up our skirts...
He referred to the Old parcels adage,, if you want me to cook the meal, I gotta pick the groceries thing.
He also made it clear that Mangini has to instill the BIG D....as in DISIPLINE.
Willie seemed to make it clear that Phil was the primary reason for the downfall in Cleveland..
I'm thinking that Lerner feels the same way. Look at how he's going about addressing the new hires.. he goes out and gets a guy that will put it to the players,,, my way or the highway. He's looking for a GM type that will work in harmony with the new HC..
Willie also made it clear that Mangini is the one running the show now....
Interesting interview... it should be required listening for every browns fan.
It was a great interview. Very eye opening.
Personally, I wish one of these Sundays in the PD, an investigative report would come out that documented everything that went down. A big-ass feature story on it.
I still have to argue with idiots who think firing Savage was a huge mistake. If you asked me this last year or 2 years ago (when I wanted Romeo canned), I would have been on Savage's side, but it became VERY clear to me this season that a lot of the issues came from both sides. (Naturally, I don't think Romeo is a very good coach...he seemed more like your favorite uncle than a coach to me), but Savage's management style was absolutely abysmal. It went against everything he claimed he wanted.
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And yeah, I forgot, he did say they needed to pick a QB and stick to thier decision..no more flipfloping.
Don't you mean no more coinflipping? 
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Don't you mean no more coinflipping?
Yeah, that too 
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He says "THEY" all over the place...
I noticed that as well, but the other two were stating things the same way.
"They didn't win a lot of games", not "you guys didn't win a lot of games".
I think it was just generalizing.... but maybe not because I doubt he is back with us.
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Daman...I have a little trouble squaring McGinnest's two comments about Crennel not getting a fair shot in Cleveland, then claiming one of the major issues Mangini needs to tackle is instilling the Big D, discipline.
Crennel is the one responsible for establishing team discipline and obviously he failed to do so. That is not on Savage or anyone else.
I realize discipline was not the only issue that lead to this season's collapse, but it was an indicator of a lack of know how on Romeo's part.
Like most Browns fans, I believe Romeo was a great guy. But great guys don't always make great head coaches. No one can ever take away what Romeo has accomplished as a coach in the NFL. The fact that he did not achieve his goals as the Browns HC, does not take anything away from Romeo Crennel, the man or coach, IMO
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He says "THEY" all over the place...
I noticed that as well, but the other two were stating things the same way.
"They didn't win a lot of games", not "you guys didn't win a lot of games".
I think it was just generalizing.... but maybe not because I doubt he is back with us.
I think he probably should have said WE a lot more. He still was a member of the team as far as I could see.
I still think that if he would come back as a backup for league minimum he still is good against the run and possibly as an "on the field coach" for the younguns' that are going to be brought in.
Unless of course another veteran or vets are brought in to play in the middle and tutor the draftees that will be brought in.
JMO though
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There are precious-few players who actually have a grasp of what needs to be done, or have a fair opinion.
Willie's comments mean very little to me.
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There are precious-few players who actually have a grasp of what needs to be done, or have a fair opinion.
Willie's comments mean very little to me.
Normally I would agree with that.. but his comments are squarely in line with the other information that we have heard and are squarely in line with what most of us have seen on the field...
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And yeah, I forgot, he did say they needed to pick a QB
In the first round or the second? 
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Just clicking DC The thing I found interesting that I dont think anyone had mentioned is when they were talking about Cowher coming in and cleaning house of several first round picked starters who were causing trouble on the team. He wouldnt name names but he alluded to the Browns having some of those. I think Mangini dont play dat  KING
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the main issue I have with taking too much stock in McGinest's comments is that he is clearly a RAC guy going back to his NE days.
so, of course he will say RAC didn't get a fair shake and of course he will side with RAC over Phil. not saying he might not be right, but he is definitely a biased party in the ordeal.
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He is, but I have to agree with mac.. (you have no idea how hard it was to type that..  )... it's hard to align the comments that RAC didn't get a fair shot but that one of the things missing most was discipline. I understand that RAC may not have got the exact players he wanted, but it's not Phil's fault that these guys are undisciplined is it?
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agreed....we had many players who had issues and a stronger coach could have gotten more out of them and kept them in line (which is what Mangini will hopefully do).
at the same time, RAC was able to get an amazing amount out of Shaun Rogers who had a ton of issues in Detroit.
my only point in the previous post was to take what McGinest says with a grain of salt.
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Daman...I have a little trouble squaring McGinnest's two comments about Crennel not getting a fair shot in Cleveland, then claiming one of the major issues Mangini needs to tackle is instilling the Big D, discipline.
Yeah, you are right, those two things don't really square up well do they!
But the thing I took away from Willies words were that there was an underlying situation where Romeo may have been undermined by someone..
in other words,, he disciplines someone, they run to Savage and suddenly, Romeos words are worthless.. Get my drift on that?
I just can't tell if that's accurate or just my interpretation.. no way to really know.
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"But the thing I took away from Willies words were that there was an underlying situation where Romeo may have been undermined by someone.. "
He was,by the many players on the field that gave less than a required effort.
Who do u honestly think this guy is going to support,his old buddy or the GM.
Willie has as much credibility as many on here do.Which is to say,Zero.
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"But the thing I took away from Willies words were that there was an underlying situation where Romeo may have been undermined by someone.. "
He was,by the many players on the field that gave less than a required effort.
Who do u honestly think this guy is going to support,his old buddy or the GM.
Willie has as much credibility as many on here do.Which is to say,Zero.
What a joke. A high stature player that has been in the league for 15 years, knows RAC well personally, and spent the last few years on the Cleveland Browns has WAY MORE credibility than anyone on this board.
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I disagree that he has zero credibility.. anybody that was in the lockerroom, has more credibility than anybody on this board..
The other thing is that Willie was a vet, he was supposed to be a leader, he was supposed to be the front line against those discipline problems even before they got to RAC.. it sounds like somebody didn't have somebodies back.. maybe RAC didn't support his leaders, maybe Phil didn't support RAC, who knows.. in the end, we'll be left with speculation. I remember when Corey Fuller left and said all kinds of nasty things about the Browns and everybody claimed it was just sour grapes and a year or so later a lot of us had to accept that most of what he said was true...
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He was,by the many players on the field that gave less than a required effort.
Who do u honestly think this guy is going to support,his old buddy or the GM.
Willie has as much credibility as many on here do.Which is to say,Zero.
I ain't buying that BC,.,, ..
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Daman...I have a little trouble squaring McGinnest's two comments about Crennel not getting a fair shot in Cleveland, then claiming one of the major issues Mangini needs to tackle is instilling the Big D, discipline.
Crennel is the one responsible for establishing team discipline and obviously he failed to do so. That is not on Savage or anyone else.
In regards to Crennel having a fare shake but that Mangini will do a good job because he will install discipline. Basically saying that discipline wasnt there last year. I noticed that too. I wanted to say something origanally but I wanted to see if someone else noticed it.
The only way that lack of discipline isnt on the head coach is that if players know that the head coach isnt calling the shots. Like in Cincy, when Marvin Lewis said that he would never take Chris Henry back because of his off the field problems. Yet, after some WRs starting getting hurt, Mike Brown brought him in so he can serve his 4 game suspension and play. How can you discipline a player when they know you aint the one calling the shots or signing their paycheck? I can see the players not taking a coach, not in charge, seriosly or caring if they mess up. As long as Phil wants them here, boneheaded penalties game after game aint stopping them from being on the team and collecting a check. Almost like if you were a boss, the owners nephew is one of your employees, and he know that he can slack off and maybe backtalk with no reprucusions.
Thats the only way I can see the lack of discipline not being on Crennel. But we would never know. Like the one poster who said that they should have a cover story telling the fans what was happening behind the scenes so the fans can place the blame. It wont happen. For one, Crennel dont throw people under the bus. At least not publicly. Two- I doubt Savage, the pissy man he looked like he was becomming, would even grant a Cleveland writer an interview to let everyone know about his shortcomings. It would be for the best for both of them professionaly to learn from there mistakes, move on, and never look back. I doubt an owner would want to hire someone whose granting interviews and telling everyone the teams shortcomings. Im sure the owner will ask what happened and hear the one sided story. I dont have too many coworkers who will admit they were wrong. But it would be an interesting read. I doubt anything is said until one is out of football for good and wants to write a book or something. But then every GM and coach would have a book out there.
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he is clearly a RAC guy going back to his NE days.
I would agree he is a RAC guy but the comment implying the lack of discipline seems to be a direct knock on the man himself, no?
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