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Not to rag on anyone.. ok maybe I will. But if you watch what you eat and workout 30-60 minutes a day. Your going to lose weight and gain muscle. Its just an observation. I have many friends who have tried this and loved it. I've never tried it. For me staying in shape consists of getting stressed so I go for a run... even if there is 5 ft of snow.
To each his/her own. Just seems like everyone thinks there is some miracle drug/video/equipment to losing weight and gaining muscle. When in reality is discipline and hard work is all you need. You could jump rope for 30 min a day and eat well and lose weight.
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great job!!...the transformation mentally and physically will be worth the time..keep bringing it. I remember my first 30 days..and you really start to notice big changes,, then you are pumped and can't wait to get to the next workout..except yoga..lol, not going to lie..hate it..not so much the exercises, just the length..1.5 hours it too much..
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After reading a few more replies... I guess I take back what I said. Maybe this thing is really special in motivating people to work out. As many of you seem to really like it. I can see how a sort of pyramid'ing approach would make it fun and challenging.
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After reading a few more replies... I guess I take back what I said. Maybe this thing is really special in motivating people to work out. As many of you seem to really like it. I can see how a sort of pyramid'ing approach would make it fun and challenging.
It's based on muscle confusion. Believe me, I've trained for over 25 years and this change of pace is REALLY cool. You can get stale even though I've changed my workouts every 4 weeks in the past.
This has been kind of a hit to my ego because I'm used to throwing around very heavy weights.
I plan on getting through P90X twice to get ripped and then I'm going to go to a heavier weight training program only utilizing P90X principles.
I'm not going to pimp their website but if you want to see some ridiculous transformations, you should check out the Beachbody message boards.
It really is addicting...
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There are other ways to lose weight like you explained, but I think people like to have a dvd to follow along with. It takes the boredom and confusion away.
There's Tae Bo and other such dvd's out there but this one mixes in weights also. Push ups and pull ups also. It's different than anything else out there right now. And I think this is what attracts people to it. Having the visual to follow along with. It's better for some people than to go to a gym and wonder around what to do next and be embarrased in public when they can workout in the privacy of their home and just simply follow the dvd.
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If you don't know how it's supposed to work?
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After the first week I stopped using the DVD's on chest/back & shoulder/bi/tri days. They were taking too long and I'd have to wait for them to catch up. As it is, I was finishing 3-5 exercises before them so I just decided to go at a faster pace.
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It's all too tough on the joints for me.
I like to take out a map of the valley and set a compass course (I love working with my compass!) incorporating hills and sometimes doing a
50 pace jog, 50 pace walk... it works for me!
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I've decided I'm not stopping until I get to 200-210 lbs which will be a 78-88 lb weight loss. Only 69-79 to go.... 
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If your really serious about wanting to lose weight... its easy. Keep doing your workout. And start counting calories. To know how many you need go here and get your basal metabolic rate... http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm So after selecting Basal Metabolic Rate as exercise level and typing my info in... my results were... Maintenance: 1852 Calories/day So that is saying, anything under that a day is weight loss. So I can only eat 12,964 calories a week (1852 * 7 = 12,964) to remain the same. Any more I might gain. Any less I will lose. If I eat 3500 cals less a week thats one pound (3500 cals = 1lb). So now I'm down to 9464 cals a week (or 1352 a day) if I want to lose 1 lb a week. Then, on top of that I'm working out... so say I burn 1500 a week with exercise. Thats another .5 lb. All the info is there... you just have to have the mind set to do it.
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knowing what your caloric intake daily should be is nice, but its not at all the most important factor. for example 1 gram of protein = 4 cals 1 gram of carb = 4 cals 1 gram of fat= 9 calories. Its the macro of those calories that is important. And finding what that macro is that benefits you the most is built in to p90. For example, a good baseline for gaining size with minimal fat gain is 40/40/20 40% protein 40 % carbs and 20% carbs. for weight loss you adjust the macro's by upping your protein and dropping carb/fat. So yeah you can say well once you know you calories you can just set your mind to go into deficit and that's all there is to it. It's not. Sure to lose weight you have to be in deficit, but it's all on your goals, my maint. is 3500 calories a day and i eat about 5,000 and i've only gone up 2% body fat in 5 months but but on 18lbs of lean muscle. P90x will help people get an understanding of the basics and how to apply them to reach their goals, the tools are all there and you can use them anyway you want depending on what you want to achieve
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I plan on adapting this program after awhile. No way I can deal with lifting lighter weights for too long.
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yeah i hear ya, i got the selecttech 1090's from bowflex so they went to 90lbs on each side..i usually use the p90x program to run with a cutting cycle now..the cardio and core work are great assets. i usually now run a 3 day split in the gym during bulk and then go to 5 day split with p90x plus mixed in..it's really a do it all program
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knowing what your caloric intake daily should be is nice, but its not at all the most important factor. for example 1 gram of protein = 4 cals 1 gram of carb = 4 cals 1 gram of fat= 9 calories. Its the macro of those calories that is important. And finding what that macro is that benefits you the most is built in to p90. For example, a good baseline for gaining size with minimal fat gain is 40/40/20 40% protein 40 % carbs and 20% carbs. for weight loss you adjust the macro's by upping your protein and dropping carb/fat. So yeah you can say well once you know you calories you can just set your mind to go into deficit and that's all there is to it. It's not. Sure to lose weight you have to be in deficit, but it's all on your goals, my maint. is 3500 calories a day and i eat about 5,000 and i've only gone up 2% body fat in 5 months but but on 18lbs of lean muscle. P90x will help people get an understanding of the basics and how to apply them to reach their goals, the tools are all there and you can use them anyway you want depending on what you want to achieve
So the p90 videos already have nutritional info in them? I thought it was just a work out video...
Counting calories is bad enough.. I'm not going to tell someone just trying to lose weight to sit there and count calories from fat... protein... and carbs. Sounded like he has plenty of muscle/bulk... just wanted to lose the fat. If you want to lose the fat... count calories... plain and simple.
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The P90X does have nutritional guides with it although I'm pretty versed in nutrition.
I've been training in bodybuilding/powerlifting style for over 25 years and saw this as something fresh and different. Thought I'd give it a whirl.
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What are you 7ft 400 lbs?  I'm guessing your saying that after your estimated exercise level...
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I got a quick lesson in nutrition 2.5 years ago when I was diagnose with t1 diabetes. I've been active my whole life... played in all seasons (hockey and baseball). So I never really had to watch what I ate... college came... I did play d3 hockey but still packed on the pounds.
Then that happened and I immediatly took off 40lbs on a sluggish 215 frame in 4 months. The diagnosis scared me... so I ate like a bird (900-1000 cals/day) and worked out like never before. I ran everyday... it was the only thing that pulled me through the stress at the time. I laugh about it now cause my body must have been in shock. Went from 2am bar binges to nothing for like 6 months.
As you get older I've learned the muscle becomes less significant. Really the only thing I'm training for is to live longer and be able to throw some punk around if I have to. It's more about feeling good again... and maintaining the amount of muscle you built in your younger years. I've gone from lifting 3-4 times a week w/ no cardio. To 1 day lifting... 4 running. I feel better without all the bulk.. and really when I lift I haven't lost much. I like to think my body transformed from a F250 to a Corvette.
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knowing what your caloric intake daily should be is nice, but its not at all the most important factor. for example 1 gram of protein = 4 cals 1 gram of carb = 4 cals 1 gram of fat= 9 calories. Its the macro of those calories that is important. And finding what that macro is that benefits you the most is built in to p90. For example, a good baseline for gaining size with minimal fat gain is 40/40/20 40% protein 40 % carbs and 20% carbs. for weight loss you adjust the macro's by upping your protein and dropping carb/fat. So yeah you can say well once you know you calories you can just set your mind to go into deficit and that's all there is to it. It's not. Sure to lose weight you have to be in deficit, but it's all on your goals, my maint. is 3500 calories a day and i eat about 5,000 and i've only gone up 2% body fat in 5 months but but on 18lbs of lean muscle. P90x will help people get an understanding of the basics and how to apply them to reach their goals, the tools are all there and you can use them anyway you want depending on what you want to achieve
So the p90 videos already have nutritional info in them? I thought it was just a work out video...
Counting calories is bad enough.. I'm not going to tell someone just trying to lose weight to sit there and count calories from fat... protein... and carbs. Sounded like he has plenty of muscle/bulk... just wanted to lose the fat. If you want to lose the fat... count calories... plain and simple.
no not plain in simple..in fact not even close. you cut calories yes, you do lose fat, and if you are working out and put yourself in a anabolic state and you aren't consuming enough of the right kinds of calories ie protein over carbs/fat, your body will become catabolic and then start breaking down the muscles to give itself the protein it needs..so how do you combat that..never dip below 15-20 percent max of your maint. and make sure you up your protein intake to about 1.5 - 2 grams per pound of body weight while cutting carbs and fats. When i'm on a cut i don't eat carbs after 12noon. so yes being in a deficit will make you lose weight..but you lose fat AND muscle..sorry but if i'm working out i want to keep all the muscle i can..its quite the quandry, because the same thing is said about gaining muscle...it is impossible to make huge gains of lean muscle and not put on a little fat..you control that with macro's. Are you going to lose a little bit of muscle regardless when cutting..yes, but the amount you lose depends on the TYPE of calories you are consuming and when. I eat 7 times a day when i'm bulking or cutting..that way my body is always anabolic and i'm always giving it the protein to repair and always burning calories by making my body constantly process my meals. p90x isn't a workout dvd, it's an actual program..is it perfect, no but it's a great program that you get what you put out of. I've been through Ranger School, army master fitness trainer, and several physically demanding schools and I can say that this is a great program for those who haven't had a structured workout before, or dont' really know how to put one together. and its something totally different for the experienced that just want to see what else is out there
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What are you 7ft 400 lbs? I'm guessing your saying that after your estimated exercise level...
i wish...then maybe i could get the browns to sign me to play center...lol..
no i'm 6'2 225 now, and yes that's after figuring my exercise level
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To all, I'm a believer in the program. True, by eating right, exercising on a daily basis (resistance & cardio) and getting the proper rest you will see results over time, regardless of using P90X or not. The thing is, I was a bit lost on the details of the exercising. I'd lift, but I didn't do enough sets, did it too fast, used too light of weights or did the same exercises over and over again. So, while I dropped some weight and added some size, it wasn't really doing enough for me in the mirror. So when I saw this on TV, I went right to eBay and bought the discs ($80 brand new instead of $139).
To me, the discs give you a schedule to follow. You don't focus on too much lifting or too much cardio. It's a good balance. And the routines change so your muscles can't get used to the exercises.
It's not perfect by a longshot, but it gives me a structure I can follow.
For example, here is what I did in the last week or so:
Fri - Shoulders/Arms
Sat - Plyo (jump training)
Sun - Chest/Back
Mon - Rested
Tue - Ran a 5K and Abs
Wed - Legs/Back
Thu - Core Synergistics (total body but focuses of abs)
Fri - Yoga
Sat - Upper Plus
Sun - Snowboarded
Even though I didn't really follow the program schedule to the letter, I was using the discs as I wanted to (not mixing body parts on back-2-back days). So I had a good week in my opinion. I could do better of course.
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Booyah!!!
Last chest & back night until week 9, I believe. Blew me up. Man am I winded. Last set of "lawnmowers" with a 120 lb dumbbell.
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 120 pound dumbbell? Cripe, why not just use a real lawnmower??  Actually, lawnmower is one of my favorites in the P90 program.
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120 pound dumbbell? Cripe, why not just use a real lawnmower?? Actually, lawnmower is one of my favorites in the P90 program.
It's really strange because I hate one arm dumbbell rows when I'm training back normally (non-P90X workouts) but for some reason I really enjoy them (called lawnmowers in P90X for those that aren't familiar with the program) when doing P90X. I also like "heavy pants".
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 I forgot about those names he uses.
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...just got done with Chest & Back, here's another
"nice job, so far...nice job, so far...nice job, so far..."
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You guys need to start your own workout forum.  It's good to see the hard work and motivation here. Keep it up.
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Bombarded the "show" muscles tonight (shoulder, bi, tri). WOW...or as Tony would say "Wow upside down is Mom." Real nice burn. I'm done with that muscle sequence until week 9.
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Believe me, there are still some moves that I can't do but keep trying.
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I ALMOST made it through the Plyo DVD last night without modifying a single move. I think it was during the Jump Squat Switch Stance Pickups (180 degree jumps when one hand touches the floor on each jump). I made it 25 seconds through the second rep before I had to stop. Other than that, I was almost perfect every other area. Man, my legs were on fire!
...I will defeat that DVD soon.
Any tips on how to get more pullups into my routine? The program calls for two back exercises per week (Days 1 & 5 or Days 3 & 5). Leadtheway said I could do a few without going to failure when warming up for each other workout (but not the day after a back workout). My goal is to hit 25 in one rep and 50 in three reps total by April 21st. My best right now is 13 and 30. Any pointers?
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one thing i like to do, to get more reps in everything. negatives...so use a chair to help your self up and then do a negative pull up..do until concentric muscle failure..i do the same thing for DB curls..i'll do my normal curls until failure, then take 40% of my max and then do seated negative curls..i've added 20lbs to my curls in about a month doing that...hey punch did you get my last email with the attachments?
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Thanks for the tip, from time to time I've added in some negatives on my pull-ups. I'd write them in my log as "9+3". Nine good ones and three negative's. I'll be sure to do more negatives with each back routine going forward. Heck, I'll be sure to add more negatives on a few other workouts too.
Ya, I got the attachments...though I haven't had time to absorb it yet. I've been installing my new daily meal schedule (thanks to you). I had the "2 whole grain waffle, 5 egg whites and shake breakfast" this morning and I was busting at the seems. Man, I have to get used to eating a bigger breakfast. I was only eating egg whites in the morning before.
I should be able to handle the rest of the meal schedule without much impact. I was already eating 6-7 times a day....just eating the wrong stuff (or slightly wrong).
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Question for you guys. I've been considering getting this, but do not have a pull up bar (I suppose I could install one in the basement). However, I would probably be doing the exercises in the living room where the dvd player is. What other equipment is needed? It will be in my living room as well - there is ample space (as evidenced by Wii bowling) - but it is still a living room. I don't want weights all over the place waiting for the next dvd. What types of weights are required? Also, what other types of equipment is needed?
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A floor, pull-up bar and some weights. That's it. Well, a Yoga mat and blocks would be required if you do the Yoga DVD (and I would highly recemmend doing it, it will break you). The weights are a tough one, you can go get tons of dumbbells but that costs money AND takes up a ton of space. Or you can get a system like the Bowflex SelectTech Dumbbells, pricey but takes up almost no space (there are other kinds - some people prefer the PowerBlock models). OR you can just invest in some good resistance bands. Those are relatively cheap and do the job. They tend to be more difficult to get the right resistance on each workout but it gets easier with practice. Other than that, that's it. Well, they suggest getting a heart rate monitor too but I can't wear one. It chafes me. PM me for info on the DVD's.
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Oh, I got this pull-up bar for my house. It's a breeze to setup and can be used in almost any doorway. Iron Gym
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Thanks for the input Punch. I have some dumbbells in the basement - from 20-45 lbs. Neighbor has that block knockoff of the Selectech - very nice. I guess I could move a dvd player to the basement to do this as well. Affix a pull up bar to the supports as well.
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Thanks for the input Punch. I have some dumbbells in the basement - from 20-45 lbs. Neighbor has that block knockoff of the Selectech - very nice. I guess I could move a dvd player to the basement to do this as well. Affix a pull up bar to the supports as well.
Something else to think about, I listen to the workouts on my old video iPod. Convert the DVD's into MP4's and move them into iTunes. Done. And heck, I bet there's a way to covert just the audio too (once you watch it a few times to get the form down).
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there's no such thing as a sanity clause
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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A floor, pull-up bar and some weights. That's it. Well, a Yoga mat and blocks would be required if you do the Yoga DVD (and I would highly recemmend doing it, it will break you).
The weights are a tough one, you can go get tons of dumbbells but that costs money AND takes up a ton of space. Or you can get a system like the Bowflex SelectTech Dumbbells, pricey but takes up almost no space (there are other kinds - some people prefer the PowerBlock models). OR you can just invest in some good resistance bands. Those are relatively cheap and do the job. They tend to be more difficult to get the right resistance on each workout but it gets easier with practice.
Other than that, that's it. Well, they suggest getting a heart rate monitor too but I can't wear one. It chafes me.
PM me for info on the DVD's.
i bought the 7 position bar from beachbody that goes in any door..it's really nice..also if you buy the package it comes with 3 resistance bands..i also got tony's push up stands..i started out with the nike ones and they sucked balls...tony's are actually very nice and very stable and i use a jump rope during the "jump rope" during cooldowns..but i go all out...really kicks my behind
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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