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I'm jealous.....I'm in the middle of week 6. I miss the Chest/Back routine. I wonder if my numbers will improve much once I get back to it. We'll see...
I did Plyo last night, Cardio X + Ab Ripper this morning and I have Back/Biceps on the schedule for tonight. Whew....I'm tired just thinking about it.
And Core is one of my favorite workouts.
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I haven't tried the Kenpo yet, is it any fun? and do you need a lot of space for it?
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It's actually my least favorite workout (that and Kenpo Plus). The Kenpo workouts just don't get my heart pumping and legs burning like the other cardio-based workouts do (Plyo & Interval Plus).
Cardio X is ok. It's a mix of Yoga, Kenpo, Plyo and a little bit of Core. I tend to skip the Kenpo moves and make them harder. For example, instead of kicks...I'll do Plyo X Jumping Jacks (squat to a jumping X).
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When I hit week 9 instead of moving on to the phase 3 eating plan, I'm going back to the phase 1 (fat shedder) eating plan.
I'm doing great but my results aren't where I'd like them. I plan on doing fat shedder for weeks 8-13, then in weeks 1-4 on my second go round. By then I should be able to go into phase 2's diet.
I do plan on adding some carbs (1/2 bagel, 1 whole wheat waffle or some oatmeal) to my breakfast during the fat shedder phase but that's about it.
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It's actually my least favorite workout (that and Kenpo Plus). The Kenpo workouts just don't get my heart pumping and legs burning like the other cardio-based workouts do (Plyo & Interval Plus).
Cardio X is ok. It's a mix of Yoga, Kenpo, Plyo and a little bit of Core. I tend to skip the Kenpo moves and make them harder. For example, instead of kicks...I'll do Plyo X Jumping Jacks (squat to a jumping X).
.. i burn no less than 800 cals doing kenpo plus..and my heart rate never drops below 135.by far my fav cardio and interval plus. regular kenpo was boring, but i love plus, did it last night just for fun and did interval this morning..about 2 more months and i'll start another cycle. Been doing heavy lifts in gym for last 5 months..but i still throw in the cardio stuff from p90x..more fun than running on a treadmill 
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Kenpo isn't my favorite either, although I like it more now than when I first did it. It took me a while to get the punch combination's down. Now that my punches & kicks are faster & more precise I get more out of the workout.
I did Plyo this a.m. 540 Calories burned.
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I'm not sure what eating plan I'm using....more likely it's similar to phase 2 or 3. Leadtheway designed my plan for me. For those interested in copying it:
6:00am Cardio X + Ab Ripper on resistance days / Rest on other days 7am Breakfast (2 WW waffles with natural PB (5g), 4-5 egg whites (25g) and Shake (25g & Xtend)) 9:30am Bar (Zero Impact – 30g) Noon Lunch (Salmon/chicken, green beans and a piece of WW bread – 35g) 2:30pm Shake (25g & Xtend) 5pm Pre-workout Shake (WMS, 25g & Xtend) 6pm workout 7ish Post-workout shake (WMS, 25g & Xtend) 8ish Dinner (Salmon/chicken, steamed broc/caul/BrussSprouts – 35g) 9ish Class of Lactose-free milk (12g) 11ish Sleep
Some days I'll skip the carbs at lunch for more of a Phase 1 diet plan feel. Leadtheway saw my old plan and said I was eating enough protein and calories overall.
If it's still too much calories, which I don't think it is, then I'm planning on mixing in a few other morning workouts (Interval Plus).
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if you want to cut down a little more...skip the WMS preworkout..and just use the WMS post..another supplement i've taken lately and i've lost 2.5%BF with it, is Recreate..pretty nice and not too expensive..when i do a serious cut, i'll run that recreate with RPM or anabolic pump. AP is a nutrition partitioner that uses the carbs you eat to get that "food pump" my last cycle with it i took for 3 months i was eating 400g of carbs a day with it and still lost body fat and gained 7lbs lean mass. Punch...where are you getting your WMS..did i already point you to nutraplanet? you can get 3.3lbs for 12 bucks... recreate if you want to save money on some of the other supps you buy, i get all my stuff from them. they always send me free trials too.. check it out
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When I hit week 9 instead of moving on to the phase 3 eating plan, I'm going back to the phase 1 (fat shedder) eating plan.
I'm doing great but my results aren't where I'd like them. I plan on doing fat shedder for weeks 8-13, then in weeks 1-4 on my second go round. By then I should be able to go into phase 2's diet.
I do plan on adding some carbs (1/2 bagel, 1 whole wheat waffle or some oatmeal) to my breakfast during the fat shedder phase but that's about it.
to be honest..don't necessarily follow the p90x diet to a T. its not a very realistic diet approach..sure the portions approach is entirely doable. but everybody partitions nutrients different. play with it until you find you happy zone. If your going to play with carb intake..do it in all the meals before noon-1pm....
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if you want to cut down a little more...skip the WMS preworkout..and just use the WMS post..another supplement i've taken lately and i've lost 2.5%BF with it, is Recreate..pretty nice and not too expensive..when i do a serious cut, i'll run that recreate with RPM or anabolic pump. AP is a nutrition partitioner that uses the carbs you eat to get that "food pump" my last cycle with it i took for 3 months i was eating 400g of carbs a day with it and still lost body fat and gained 7lbs lean mass.
Punch...where are you getting your WMS..did i already point you to nutraplanet? you can get 3.3lbs for 12 bucks...
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if you want to save money on some of the other supps you buy, i get all my stuff from them. they always send me free trials too.. check it out
I only remember to add the WMS in my preworkout shake 75% of the time anyway. So, I think it's a nice ratio. Plus, I'm not sure how much to take anyway. I add 2-3 tablespoons. Is that enough or too much? And yes, I ordered it from NutraPlanet (KWICK KARB (Waxy Maize Starch) (VALUE SIZE 3.3 lb)).
NutraPlanet is cool. They have some cheap stuff (Xtend, bars, WMS). Although, I've found my protein powder cheaper elsewhere (AllStarHealth.com Isopure). Speaking of, I have to re-order my bars (Zero Impact - Peanut Butter).
There was one question I wanted your opinion on. The whole wheat waffles I've been eating have soy protein powder in them. Normal WW/MG waffles have 4g of protein per serving while the Kasha brand has 8g. All other things like calories, sugar, price are equal (well, the Kasha brand also has 2 more grams of dietary fiber). I know you mentioned that soy isn't good for men because it spikes the estrogen levels, but is 4g of soy in the morning going to make a difference?
As far as the Recreate, we'll see. I'm not too concerned about my body fat percentage right now. I'm just trying to bulk right now (while doing as much cardio as I can). I'm sure I'll care more about my BF% in May and June. We'll need to talk over a plan for that. I don't want to lose all the muscle I'm adding now at the same time. I'm up 5 pounds in 3-4 weeks with your new diet plan. I hope half of that is muscle. 
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ha..you like the zero bars huh...i love them..pumpkin is delicious. Well i designed that meal plan with the idea you wanted to add some muscle..but to be honest you will always gain a little fat with muscle..really the only way to do..you minimize that by doing cardio like you are, but remember, if you are always in deficit you won't get bigger. So keep the WMS in the Pre and Post workout shake. What kind of protein are you taking.?? and to answer your question about the soy, the amount in the WW waffles is negligible, i've been eating them and haven't noticed anything. just the deliciousness that is breakfast with my homemade PB and olive oil spread and sugarfree syrup 
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oh and for those who are reading this forum and want to know if this program really works, buddy of mine has lost 115lbs and went from 45%BF to 7% BF in less than a year. He's was just named one of the finalists for the 250k Grand prize..he's guaranteed atleast 50k. Just thought i'd throw this in. All those that are doing it will attest to it. But it shows you this program really works..My wife thinks its a cult..lol, everyone everywhere..this is what they are talking about. BB and tony horton hit a home run with this
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I'm using Nature's Best Isopure. It's a litte more per pound than your Optimum Nutrition Whey. Thing is, yours has more Cholesterol, sugars and carbs. Although, Isopure has 80 more calories per serving too. Kind of caught between a rock....maybe I'll try your brand next. They even have Tropical Punch too. As far as the Zero Impact bars. They taste ok but their texture is like wet sand mixed with elementary school paste. Aside from that, they're not that bad.  I remember asking you if it was alright to have more than one bar a day two months ago.....I don't have to worry about wanting to do that anymore. Once is enough with these. Funny, I used to make my own peanut butter years ago. I'd use a mix of peanuts and cashews with a little bit of peanut oil. DANG, that stuff was good! What's your recipe?
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yeah isopure is good stuff, i just like the tast of ON, and i use alot of their stuff so i'm usually partial to a brand. I use half spanish and half virginia nuts, and i throw in another bit of nuts at the end to make chunky and some sunflower seeds..mmmmmmmm,
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try the pumpkin...they are the best imo..yeah the zero bars force hydrate you..can't eat a whole one without a gallon or so of xtend to wash down...so how are you liking the xtend by the way? what flav?
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I ordered the lemonade. It's quite tasty, even by itself. Seems like it's helping. Since I've started taking Xtend, it seems like I still have loads of energy at the end of each workout. It's like I could run through it again. Of course, my arms or legs stop me because they feel like Jell-O.
Maybe I need to calculate my calories to be sure I'm eating enough (or not too much).
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yeah xtend is def. a staple...i drink it all day about a gallon. then during workout..i like the orange and watermelon too.. watermelon is my fav. its tastes like jolly ranchers
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oh and for those who are reading this forum and want to know if this program really works, buddy of mine has lost 115lbs and went from 45%BF to 7% BF in less than a year. He's was just named one of the finalists for the 250k Grand prize..he's guaranteed atleast 50k. Just thought i'd throw this in. All those that are doing it will attest to it. But it shows you this program really works..My wife thinks its a cult..lol, everyone everywhere..this is what they are talking about. BB and tony horton hit a home run with this
I'm assuming you're talking about Tommy Mygrant aka Swarm? If so, he's my coach over on Beachbody.
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Along the same lines of "Kenpo is too easy", I was supposed to have X Stretch last night. Nowhere near enough tempo for me so I just hit my elliptical for some HIIT for 30 minutes.
Core syn tonight, which I'm looking forward to and yoga tomorrow. After that I'm on to week 9 which I'm really pumped for.
I will check my weight and bodyfat measurements tomorrow before heading into the home stretch. I dropped another pant size (which makes 4 pant sizes in almost 8 weeks) this week.
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Well, was it your seventh workout night? You're supposed to either rest or stretch.
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No. I'm in week 8 (rest week) Last night was the fifth workout night and it called for X Stretch. Stretch is just a waste, IMO, with all of the other pre/post workout stretching that you do with the rest of this program.
After having Kenpo, which is too easy, I wasn't ready to take a second night "off" by doing Stretch so I hit the elliptical.
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Gotcha. Yeah, I agree that it is kinda boring. I have to do it though because I'm large and very inflexible.
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No. I'm in week 8 (rest week) Last night was the fifth workout night and it called for X Stretch. Stretch is just a waste, IMO, with all of the other pre/post workout stretching that you do with the rest of this program.
After having Kenpo, which is too easy, I wasn't ready to take a second night "off" by doing Stretch so I hit the elliptical.
xstretch is not a waste, and the stretching for the workouts aren't even close to being as effective as xstretch..yeah its boring and yeah its not intense..but its still important..thats why its in the program. Xstretch is great for limbering up muscles/tendons/joints. warm up and CD stretch don't do that to the degree that it needs. Hell even in Ranger Battalion we'd have 4 or 5 days a month dedicated to just stretching..
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I was stunned this morning when I did my week 8 checkup for my weight. I lost 6 lbs during rest week.
Started the program at 288 lbs. Current weight 260 lbs...down 28 lbs.
I've lost 3 inches off my chest (down from 55" to 52"), a half inch off my arms (down from 19" to 18.5) and I'm in a size 38 jean (down from 48) but I'm definitely carving up pretty nicely and not losing muscle size (which is an issue with me). I've dropped some major bodyfat.
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I did Legs and Back on Saturday afternoon and as some of you know, there are eight back moves in the routine (reverse grip, wide grip, close grip and alternating grip pull-ups X 2). I ended up with a total of 72 pull-ups. I'm sure some on this board could do more following the same routine but that's impressive to me.
When I started, I might have been about to do 15 in that time.
Any other progress reports?
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I'm a couple weeks into the routine, and don't think I have improved my weak pull up total yet. Pull ups are only in 2 of the dvd's (IIRC). I was only able to do a few "real" pull-ups from the beginning. Obviously, the pull ups near the beginning of the routine are easier. Towards the end, I am so gassed I cannot do one. Use the chair to assist - but feel I am not getting much benefit. It is hard for me to imagine going from a few pull ups 2 weeks ago to knocking out 20+ without a problem in 8 weeks. It seems to me that to get better at pull ups, one might have to attempt them every day (or every other day). We'll see.....
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That's what I thought too. "There's no way I'll get heavy pull-up numbers by only doing pull-ups twice a week." I said that very sentence to Leadtheway 6+ weeks ago and he cautioned me to not add a third back day per week. He said it was ok to do a few pull-ups every morning, to warm up, but never do them to failure. Focus on the two back routines....believe me, it will get better over time. You'll notice your stamina will get better first. Those pull-ups near the end of the routine will actually start happening....maybe it's only 1 or 2.....but it will happen. Add them up and you'll see the numbers rise. And 12 weeks is a long time.
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I'll let you know when progress occurs. Tony preaches breathing throughout, but for some reason, the pull up is a tough exercise for me with this. Gonna have to work on that.
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breathing is a huge part of it, it helps get oxygen to the muscles when your putting strain on them.
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That's actually something I've noticed just recently. I'm able to breath more while doing a tough yoga move, pull-ups or during the ab routine. Maybe it's my higher level of fitness, me focusing on my breathing or just hearing Tony's voice reminding me to breath (I know that last one sounds stupid).
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I still find myself holding my breath sometimes when in a Yoga move. Have to kick myself sometimes as a reminder... Thanks to Yoga, I can almost actually kick myself 
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Week 9 off and running with a bang! Chest & back were off the charts! More reps & a better pump on most exercises than I got in week 3.
At the end of week 3 I still couldn't do dive bombers and diamond pushups but tonight I was whipping off 10+ reps. Totally jacked !!!
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I'm in week 7. This morning I did Shoulders/Chest/Triceps & AbRipper
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This program continues to amaze me.
I've gotten excellent results (73 lb weight loss) on Body for Life but nothing like P90X. BFL took me 7 months to drop from a size 50 jean to a 31. This program sheds fat radically.
I had to get down in the 220 range to be able to slide into 31's. I'm currently probably below 260 and I'll likely be fitting in 36's (down from 48's eight and a half weeks ago). The fat is dropping off in droves.
I love the variety that this offers and it's a MUCH more intense program, to me, than BFL. BFL is a very good program though.
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I had to skip Monday night and all of Tuesday due to a stomach virus (at least that's what I think it was). I felt like throwing up and was very "off" for 48-hours. The wife had the same thing last week. Oh well.
I should be able to pick back up tonight with Chest/Shoulder/Tri's.
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This is day 60 for me so I'm two-thirds there. Yoga tonight...
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Question about "going to failure" and "feeling the burn on your last 2-3 reps". Tony mentions to do that in every exercise.
So I'm doing Chest/Shoulders/Tri's last night. The first few chest exercises I'm going to failure and getting that burn near the end (like both hit the same time). However, as I progress throughout the workout, I hit the failure line before the burn line. Essentially, my chest and arms are like Jell-O. I'm still going to failure but I can't find the burn. Is this normal?
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