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I was watching Friday Night Fights on ESpn360 today, and they were talking about nfl football. Teddy Atlas Made the comment that the only coach he cares about is Eric Mangini.

This got me thinking. Do you think that Teddy Atlas will be brought in to work with the team as part of the off season conditioning program?

here is a video about it. It is 8 minutes long: Boxing jets video

here is an article about this occurring with the jets.

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After a 10-win regular season and a postseason berth in the first year of the New York Jets’ new regime, Teddy Atlas was asked to participate in the team’s off-season strength and conditioning program. How will the acquisition of boxing skills, coming from a renowned boxing trainer and ESPN color analyst, help football players?

"We do basic drills to improve hand speed, foot speed, endurance, calmness and mental awareness," Atlas said this week following a morning workout inside the Jets' practice bubble. "If you are not aware of everything in the ring, you get knocked out. Take that philosophy here and make them more aware of things they need to be aware of."

On Monday, the morning session of 12 included the likes of defensive end Shaun Ellis, linebacker Victor Hobson, kickers Mike Nugent and Ben Graham, versatile Brad Smith and crafty vet Bobby Hamilton.

Atlas, not a yeller but the owner of a direct style, had everyone’s attention as he demonstrated combinations and defensive techniques. After each mini-lesson, he moved about the bubble and worked individually with each player. Atlas, who caught punches with his bare hands and was clad in a gray Jets sweatsuit, meticulously reviewed everything from hooks to slips to footwork.

In some of the lighter moments, Ellis, a defensive co-captain, immediately squared off with either Hobson or Smith after he had completed his individual instruction. Atlas, while he sipped a Gatorade, explained how some boxing skills could help a lineman.

"When you throw the punches the right way, you don’t raise your elbow," he said while snapping his right hand. "If you raise your elbow, you waste time and you lose power. When a lineman has to keep a guy from coming onto him, he goes straight out and gets more power. He doesn’t lose a tenth of a second warning the guy that his arm is coming out because of his elbow. He can take that drill and use it specifically to his position."

Head coach Eric Mangini, a creative mind who is always looking to find an extra edge, has developed a good relationship with Atlas. During a brief afternoon conversation with GM Mike Tannenbaum, Atlas actually paused when he saw Mangini and hugged his friend.

"We talk about a lot of things and I like him," he had said of Mangini, moments before he talked with the top brass about last weekend’s mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Oscar de la Hoya. "He understands that it’s not just about 300-pound guys throwing their weight around. He understands it’s about a muscle that weighs about 16 ounces – your brain — and it’s about emotion and controlling things."

Control can come in many forms. On this day, Atlas spoke to a linebacker about the importance of where he places the weight on his feet.

"That split-second of changing your weight back to your left might as well be an hour in your business, so keep the weight on both feet."

Close to a year ago, Atlas was on the way to a gym in Germany for a session with Henry Maske. Atlas, an expert commentator drawn out of training retirement for Maske's rematch with Virgil Hill, picked up his phone and Tannenbaum was on the other end.

"I was actually in the gym doing something I don’t do anymore – training fighters," he said. "I like the microphone. Nobody can talk back when I’m on ESPN. I am tired of telling men to behave like men. I was a trainer for 30 years, so I got away from it."

Tannenbaum started a friendly overseas conversation, telling the instructor of how former Jets head coach Bill Parcells periodically referred to Atlas in his stories. The Jets were familiar with Atlas’ résumé and Mangini, their new head coach, was a fan of the sport.

"Eric is a big fight fan and he is also, more importantly, familiar with your philosophy of being responsible for yourself and making hard choices under pressure," Tannenbaum told Atlas.

An engaged Mangini asked Atlas, a Staten Island, N.Y., native and former Jets season ticket holder, if he could speak to Mangini's players. Atlas was eventually brought to Weeb Ewbank Hall for a Saturday morning visit and opened some eyes with his message.

"The greatest strength you can have is being able to control yourself and make the proper choices under pressure," he told the players. "That is the greatest power anybody can have. That is something that can be obviously developed and needs to be developed, but first it must be understood as an asset."

Then the former mentor of world heavyweight champion Michael Moorer talked to the Jets about the stark differences between winning and survival.

"What is natural — one thing that bonds us and makes us all brothers — is we have a natural instinct to survive," he said. "That has nothing to do with winning. The desire to win is something that is formed, is developed, and it grows. It is something you are always striving for, but it is not natural. It is something that has to be thought of, it is something that has to be disciplined, and it has to be embraced."

In fact, the survival instinct can sometimes obstruct reaching a favorable outcome.

"Surviving is always there and it gets in the way of winning. Surviving doesn’t care about whether you are the NFL’s leading passer or rusher, or your contract is renewed, or if you are driving a Toyota or a Mercedes," Atlas said. "All it cares about is doing its job, making sure you live, not for today, but for the next minute and then the minute after that and the minute after that."

Atlas looked out into his audience and said that the "Mr. Survival" inside always looked to avoid danger and sidestepped the problem instead of facing it.

"As great as survival is and as important as it is to our existence, it can get in the way of things if we only let it help us exist," he said. "Let’s let it help us do more than exist and help us win."

And that is why Atlas is here. He has become part of the spring program, a regimen that features strength coach Sal Alosi’s workouts.

"Teddy is a boxing legend," Alosi said. "For us to have the ability to bring him in and train our players with the same techniques and methods that he used to train heavyweight champions, that is just an added benefit for us."

Atlas, co-author of the captivating "From the Streets to the Ring: A Son's Struggle to Become a Man,"said the players have been gentlemen and he’s joked with a few that he’ll set them up with four-round fights in Detroit. But perhaps the key in all of his messages is that to be productive and effective, you have to be aware.

"A fighter has to be calm enough so he can see things," he said. "Even though he knows to do things — he knows how to throw a hook and he knows how to throw an uppercut — if he’s not calm enough to see the openings for it, it’s not useful to him. It is not effective to him.

"If I can use that high degree of boxing discipline to help them be a little calmer, a little bit more cognizant and recognize more things going on, then they can take that to their position."

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I found another article on Teddy Atlas and his view of why mangini was fired. Now mangini and Atlas are close friends, so this needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

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By BRIAN COSTELLO
Teddy Atlas
Teddy Atlas

Last updated: 7:40 pm
January 3, 2009
Posted: 3:44 am
January 3, 2009

Teddy Atlas is one Jet who won't be back next year.

The famed boxing trainer and Jets "special assistant" ripped the organization and quarterback Brett Favre yesterday. Atlas, a close friend of Eric Mangini, said the recently fired coach was doomed from the moment the Jets acquired Favre.

"Mangini went into the season ready for a whole different approach, whether it was going to be Chad Pennington or Kellen Clemens (at quarterback), whoever won that battle," Atlas told The Post. "It was going to be a secure, protect the ball, intelligent approach. It was something he was comfortable with, something he believed in. The whole plan, the whole blueprint got thrown out the window when Favre came. He's the antithesis of that. He throws the ball all over the place."

Mangini brought Atlas in to work with the Jets, giving them boxing training in the offseason and providing motivational talks during the season. Atlas appeared on 1050 ESPN Radio yesterday, and talked with The Post about the Jets' firing of Mangini. Atlas is listed in the Jets' media guide as "special assistant - boxing."

Atlas said Jets New York Jets owner Woody Johnson forced the trade upon Mangini.

"He had no choice in the matter," Atlas said. "How you going to argue with a Hall of Fame guy coming in and the business part of it? (Mangini) did the best he could to adjust to it."

The Jets traded a third-round pick to the Packers on Aug. 6 to get the 39-year-old quarterback. Atlas said Johnson saw Favre as a salesman for his controversial personal seat licenses in the team's new stadium.

"You're paying a guy ($13) million, you're asking fans to buy PSLs, you've got a new facility, you've got money all over the place," Atlas said, "You bring this guy in and in your mind, you're looking at Mick Jagger. Now who's to say the owner doesn't start to meddle? It can disrupt a lot of things and it can explain some things that fans don't see."

Besides Johnson, Atlas also criticized Favre, who threw nine interceptions in the final five games. Atlas said running back Thomas Jones spoke the truth this week when he criticized Favre.

"I think Brett Favre basically is a selfish guy," Atlas said. "Brett Favre goes out there with his gray hair, his Wranglers and gets up when he gets hit. I understand why people like that. But there's another side. He's a selfish guy."

Atlas said he saw the Jets lose their "fear of losing" down the stretch.

"When you're a fighter and you're going into the fight, your fundamentals have to be there," Atlas said. "We always say, 'The jab leads the way.' If you took that analogy and put it in football (terms), the quarterback leads the way. If you lead it in a reckless way, bad things are going to happen. (Favre) was reckless."

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I have no idea about Atlas, nor do I care to.

As to favre, I've said it for years, and I will continue to say it. He was a good quarterback that took the hype to heart. He was constantly hearing how he was a gun slinger, how he had a rocket arm, how he threw where no one should throw, and he took it to heart.

I don't care if the Browns signed him, I'd say the same things. Problem is, in the last 3 or 4 years, his mechanics went to hell. All you have to do is watch a game from the last few years. He "pretty boy"'s it. His footwork is bad. His throwing motion? He doesn't use the same motion twice. Always trying to pretty boy it, OR sling it harder than anyone else - cause he had that reputation and he took it to heart. He thought HE was the game.

Just my opinion of favre. But check a game out. His mechanics are bad most of the time - throwing off the back foot, not planting, arm motion, his fakes, everything about him and his style of play came about because of his reputation - and he WAS good. He's not anymore.

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This is what, maybe the third or fourth person associated with the jets last year that has come out and said almost the same thing about why Favre was brought in and why Mangini was fired and the termoil that Favre caused..

You hear it once,, maybe you ignore it,, you hear virtually the same thing twice and maybe you don't toss it out so quickly... three times and you gotta figure. There's probably more truth to it than not.

That coupled with the way that Brett handled the entire Green Bay non retirement retirement issue.. I know I might get some back lash from Favre fans (I'm one also,,, thought he was great up until 4 or 5 years ago), but I think that he had way more to do with the Jets plummet than anything else.

So I tend to believe the story that Atlas tells... we'll never really know.


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Any individual that I have taught...kid - adult. Offense or defense. I have incorporated Bruce Lee's theories and have taught the One Inch Punch..

Read his book...learn it...incorporate it into your football those who coach or just trying to teach their kid a thing or two. The basic concept is the sudden allignment of all your joints from last two knucles on the hand to the shoulder - be coming one straight bone creates such a force that can withstand incredible weight n power. And when you snap all those joints in place (easily learned technique) that is the one inch punch. As in hands on there Jersey...lower shoulder pad plate..then snap. Creates such a force that I can move a 300+ lber backwards...with ease. In football giving you the advantage of control...works pretty good as a stiff arm move to for RBs

Just sharing some knowledge for anyone who cares.


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