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So many opinions on wheather or not this guy is abusive or this, that, or the other thing. Now people are discussing divorce and children services. Harleys talking about going toe to toe. Seriously?

I would like the son in law to sign up for an account on here. I want his side of the story, not a one sided tabloid story. Give us both sides of the story, then make the nutty suggestions.

Harley don't you have any friends in real life that know the situation first hand to get advice from? Don't you think this is the wrong place to go to get advice? I'll give you the best advice on here and that is, don't go to dawg talkers for family counseling.

Over protecting is a problem. It's called "over" protecting for a reason. Yeah it's only a small part of our problems, but it's definately not part of the solution.

The thumbs up guy, yeah creative, not funny though seeing how as you took it out of context from a response to prp.. But keep trying, I'm sure your comedy career will take off soon enough.

No I really don't think you can handle it or you would have ended your post after responding to the first quote you put up.

Haha, ooooh PETA, don't get me started. They make me want to tie them all up and force them to watch me eat a porter house steak with a side of deer meat.

Not trying to kill his thread. It's not my fault people feel the need to get engulfed in my opinion. You're opinion of me is meaningless seeing how as it's wrong. You just participated in the killing of this thread by making a meaningless post about someone you know nothing about. Somehow that's my fault though, hu?? Does that make you a troll??

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Over protecting is a problem. It's called "over" protecting for a reason. Yeah it's only a small part of our problems, but it's definately not part of the solution.

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I would venture a guess that if you could see the way most people parent, you would consider it "over" protecting.. so just in defining that term, there is room for a lot of discussion...

Well put with out giving yourself the public enemy image people so quickly like to put on the new guy. I tend to agree with the majority of what you say especially your political views.

Not attacking anyone, I am simply attacking a bad idea that is calling children service. If whoever made that suggestion wants to take it as a personal attack, that's not my problem.

So in simple terms to stay on topic, my advice as we all know by now is to don't take bad advice, don't over react, and let adults be adults in handling their own problems.

May the peace of the lord be with you all..

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May the peace of the lord be with you all..

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And you also.

I figure it's more fun to let people know how I really feel. I just said the "new guy" because people really don't know me, so they imagine that they know how I am. Like one guy said I'm angry and need a nap, haha.. angry, no, but yes I would love me a nap. One called me a troll and a ghost or something like that, all because I simply had an opinion and was backing my opinion to several that chose to respond. I got thick skin and actually don't mind arguing and can take some jabs as well as give them. Seems some only want to take the jabs though.

You got the gist, your a smart dude judging by the fact that you actually responded without jumping on my back like several others.

Pretty cute how he tried to make himself out as the victim.

Officer arrest that man. He punched me in the knuckles with his face

Just wanted to thank everyone for their opinions,(yes even the NEW GUY).I took everything to heart that was said and came to a decision on what I should do.
I called my son in law and told him we needed to talk.At first I think he was a little reluctant because I told him we would go for a ride away from both houses where we would be on neutral ground.I think he thought it was thumping time.
I told him that he already knows how I feel about everything and that is never gonna change, but I am going to back off and not take a chance on not being around my girls.I told him that I was wrong by telling him what to do in his house and I apologized for it.I told him he has my word that I will not try to tell him how to raise his kids even though it's hard for me to watch.I told him if I come in his house and something is going on that I don't approve of,I will turn around and walk out.What I don't see won't tick me off.We still have some issues that we need to work out,but this is a start I guess.

He then shocked the hell out of me and said he has been doing some thinking and knows there is nothing I wouldn't do for my grand kids and he knows why I feel the way I do.He said I was a damn good grandpa and his kids loved me and he would never use them to get back at me.I can't tell you the whole conversation,but it sounds like he's gonna try to change his ways with his kids.
My wife had a conversation with my daughter earlier in the evening and I don't know if that talk helped out in ours,but he sure changed his tune pretty fast.Maybe my daughter finally stepped up to the plate.I sure hope so.

I think in time everything is going to be O.K. and again,I thank all that responded cause I was really bummed out over it and not sure what to do.Sometimes someone you don't know personally is the best person to ask because they will tell you straight up and not just tell you what you want to hear.That is the reason I didn't talk to a close friend about it and came to the message board.Again Dawgs,Thanks to all of you.

Good to hear Harley.

I read the post as soon as it went up, before the replies started coming. I started typing one out, but ended up erasing it. The story ticked me off a bit, and I didn't want a reply that was me being ticked at your son-in-law. But when I came back the next day, there were plenty of dawgs on here supporting you and helping you out.

That's the thing I like about this board- plenty of good people around. It's just a bonus we're all Browns fans.

I hope he holds true to his word- for the kids' sake.

Glad to hear that you made the first move towards a better relationship with your son in law.

It takes a big man to apologize for being wrong ... especially when you're not convinced that the other guy was right. I bet you damn near knocked the guy out by doing so .... and allowed an avenue of conversation to open for you.

Good to hear... That's a pretty matrue approach and hopefully it works out....

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That's the thing I like about this board- plenty of good people around.

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Yeah,that's why I posted on here,to get a no sugar coated answer.

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I hope he holds true to his word- for the kids' sake.

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So do I.That's all I'm concerned about.

Kids aren't stupid. Even if both parents swore all the time, I bet the kid wouldn't. They know its "bad" because they learn elsewhere. Wait til their in 5th, 6th grade. That's when they'll start swearing, just as all kids have... just as you have...

Some people will always have potty mouths. I watched rated R movies and my parents swore in front of me as a kid. They didn't have huge potty mouths but I knew what was a swear word and what wasn't. I knew what I couldn't say or I'd have my mouth washed out.

You're not raising your daughters kids and the more you try you'll find the more that they'll do things you won't like. Nobody likes being told how to raise their kids.

I'd butt out and take a chill pill. You can tell the grandkids what you want when they're around, but unless you want to create a major rift in your daughters relationship, I'd butt out.

What the hell has happened to our society that the same people that were allowed to play outside from sun up and sun down now won't let their kids cross the street without holding their hands. Don't give me the BS about kidnapping and such because that's such an overblown scare tactic... It happened when we were kids too, you just didn't hear about it as much.

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I bet you damn near knocked the guy out by doing so

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Yeah,I think it floored him more than if I would have physically hit him.
I'm just glad it didn't come to that cause that would be harder to repair.

Glad you had a civil talk with him. Now I would leave well enough alone unless you want it to get ugly.

I couldn't be repaired..

Good move my friend.

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I couldn't be repaired..

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We've known that about you for quite some time.

Harley, sounds like you're off to a good start. I wish you the best.

I don't really think he should call children's services, nor do I think that this forum is the appropriate place to look for advice like this. BTW, I also think having a melt down over cussing is absurd.

BUT there are so many bleeding hearts on this board I thought I would throw it out there for effect and see what was said.

OH and I don't really give a damn about your respect....

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He said for the comedians to stay away.

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Sorry man, couldn't help it. But funny how you saw right thru that...