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Tuesday, January 23, 2007 By Steve Doerschuk REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER BEREA The January winds of change keep blowing on the Browns' coaching staff. Special-teams coordinator Jerry Rosburg must be replaced after bolting to the Atlanta Falcons. In 2005, Rosburg and Terry Robiskie were the only Butch Davis-era assistants retained by Romeo Crennel. Rosburg's units arguably were the brightest part of the team in 2006, when the Browns ranked among the league leaders in several categories. The only glitch was a surprise slump by place-kicker Phil Dawson. The Browns are expected to announce the hiring of Tom Myslinski as strength coach. A 38-year-old native of Rome, N.Y., Myslinski played for six teams in seven seasons, including 1996 and '97 with the Steelers. Myslinski studied exercise science at Tennessee and Pitt and learned under Buddy Morris while at Pitt. He worked for Morris with the Browns from 2002-04 before Morris was replaced by John Lott. There is a chance former Olympic gold medalist Roger Kingdom could join Myslinski as a speed and quickness specialist. The team is seeking a tight ends coach to replace Ben Coates and might need an offensive line coach to replace Jeff Davidson. The latter was interim offensive coordinator for 10 games in 2006, but he lost a bid for full-time status when Rob Chudzinski was hired Saturday. Chudzinski wants to implement the San Diego-style offense used by Cam Cameron. To do that, he needs a star running back, which points to strong consideration of Adrian Peterson as a first-round pick. NFL veteran Bob Palcic, who worked on Chris Palmer's 1999 Cleveland staff, is a candidate to coach Browns tight ends or, if Davidson leaves, the line. Palcic, 58, has collegiate roots at Dayton and Miami (Ohio). The status of quarterbacks coach Rip Scherer is uncertain after Scherer likewise was passed over for the coordinator job. Now that Bill Parcells has resigned and left the status of the Cowboys' coaching staff in flux, Chris Palmer bears watching. The former Browns head coach developed Tony Romo as Parcells' quarterbacks coach. Reach Repository sports writer Steve Doerschuk at (330) 580-8347 or e-mail: steve.doerschuk@cantonrep.com
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How could the FO allow the only coach we had in the top rankings of the NFL to leave? Why couldn't they at least throw some money at him for one more year? and it's not like the Falcons are the best place to be, either. I don't get this...?
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People Remember.....after the smoke cleared and Parcelles had done his hip hoping between NE & NY Jets, the patriots were left with having to hire the next best thing to Mr. Tuna...Bilachek...Worked out pretty good for them, change isnt always bad..... 
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How could the FO allow the only coach we had in the top rankings of the NFL to leave? Why couldn't they at least throw some money at him for one more year? and it's not like the Falcons are the best place to be, either. I don't get this...?
You are right, you don't get it.
At this point in Rosburg's career, security is the main issue. I am sure he has probably figured out he isn't going to be a head coach.
Petrino has just been hired in Atlanta which under normal conditions gives him 3 years before he can get into any real job trouble unless he does something stupid. Here, unless we are sitting on 3 wins by the bye, and 8 by seasons end, Romeo is toast.
Jerry isn't stupid. He can add things up and it looks like when he added it up, Cleveland and Romeo was a negative.
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You are right, you don't get it.
At this point in Rosburg's career, security is the main issue. I am sure he has probably figured out he isn't going to be a head coach.
Petrino has just been hired in Atlanta which under normal conditions gives him 3 years before he can get into any real job trouble unless he does something stupid. Here, unless we are sitting on 3 wins by the bye, and 8 by seasons end, Romeo is toast.
Jerry isn't stupid. He can add things up and it looks like when he added it up, Cleveland and Romeo was a negative.
Then again, it could have just been the money or climate 
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Chudzinski wants to implement the San Diego-style offense used by Cam Cameron. To do that, he needs a star running back, which points to strong consideration of Adrian Peterson as a first-round pick.
I believe this was brought up in a few other threads and some people called it 'ludicrous' and and array of other adjectives. My question is why? It may not be what people want to hear, especially those who are on the Joe Thomas train (with good reason), but isn't it plausible that Phil has a definite plan in mind which involves bringing in Chud to run a SD-type offense with a star running back to take the pressure off our less-than-stellar QBs and then drafting Peterson to be that type of back? I believe that plan also involves building the line through FA and later rounds of the draft, which Phil has indicated time and time again. So why is it ludicrous to believe that Chud was brought in with the throughts of going after AP in the draft? It sounds like a well-defined plan that is being executed piece by piece. But that's just me.
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Not really the topic, but to respond to your post: I'm of the opinion we can cross Peterson right off our list, unless he's a can't miss guy (and there are doubters of that).
This would not be the time to draft a franchise back. If we improve the O-line through FA and the draft, maybe we can coax one more 1,000-yard year out of Rueben, and then think about drafting a franchise-type RB in 2008. The timing seems better for that, IMO.
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So much for some of the dolts not believing this because there was no "official word" (one of our beat writers proclaiming it)... I hope the F.O. looks far and wide for suitable replacements and stays away from Romeo's Rolodex of old eating buddies.. His choices of Offensive Geniuses have held us back but the sad part is, we may not be any better until these new guys get to implement their ways... With so many holes on staff to fill, odds are stacked against us with scoring some bright minds... Sure hope that I am wrong... 
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To go on the Peterson thing. I'm somewhat hoping that Marshawn Lynch makes himself the #1 rated RB. Not because I like him so much, but I think that he would hold up in the NFL a bit better. He's had less problems in the past, and like Peterson, Doesnt Fumble.
On the coaching changes? The only thing I'm miffed about, is why do we keep returning to old Browns personnel. We keep hiring and talking about hiring guys that have worked here in the last 8 years. IMO if the regime is fired, and we've been bad, why are we bringing them back? Seems like that would just get us spinning our wheels.
I personally liked the Hiring of Chud because he is young and is considered a bright mind, but these other hirings seem questionable.
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My question is why? It may not be what people want to hear, especially those who are on the Joe Thomas train (with good reason), but isn't it plausible that Phil has a definite plan in mind which involves bringing in Chud to run a SD-type offense with a star running back to take the pressure off our less-than-stellar QBs and then drafting Peterson to be that type of back?
Are we talking possible, plausible, or likely?
Is it possible? Yes. Is it plausible? yes. Is it likely, no.
Is it a reach to suggest we'll go after Peterson just because Chud was a TE's coach where a future HOF'er ran?
Emphatically, yes.
If one is going to make that reach, they first have to establish that Peterson is in the same class as Tomlinson. That in itself is a reach, as I don't see one single scouting service or site that lists Peterson in the same category as Calvin Johnson, the only guy in this draft that's considered a sure thing.
The reality of the situation is that if Savage is going to take Peterson, it's because he feels the need for a feature back, not because he feels that Peterson is the key to running a Chargers-style offense 
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To go on the Peterson thing. I'm somewhat hoping that Marshawn Lynch makes himself the #1 rated RB. Not because I like him so much, but I think that he would hold up in the NFL a bit better. He's had less problems in the past, and like Peterson, Doesnt Fumble.
I like Lynch, too, but not over Peterson. That said, I would rather trade down and grab Lynch and an extra pick than stay at 3/4 and just get Peterson. I don't think the gap between Lynch and Peterson is huge.
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Chudzinski wants to implement the San Diego-style offense used by Cam Cameron. To do that, he needs a star running back, which points to strong consideration of Adrian Peterson as a first-round pick.
I believe this was brought up in a few other threads and some people called it 'ludicrous' and and array of other adjectives. My question is why? It may not be what people want to hear, especially those who are on the Joe Thomas train (with good reason), but isn't it plausible that Phil has a definite plan in mind which involves bringing in Chud to run a SD-type offense with a star running back to take the pressure off our less-than-stellar QBs and then drafting Peterson to be that type of back? I believe that plan also involves building the line through FA and later rounds of the draft, which Phil has indicated time and time again. So why is it ludicrous to believe that Chud was brought in with the throughts of going after AP in the draft? It sounds like a well-defined plan that is being executed piece by piece. But that's just me.
Its not going to happen because there are to many concerns about AP's durability(he hasnt been healthy for an entire season ever) and he isnt stand out enough to seperate himself from some of the other best backs in the draft that will be available in round 2. Also Savage has to hit a homerun on our first pick and the safest way to do that is to draft Thomas. The way I see it is this. If Joe thomas is there for the 3rd or 4th pick we take him and don't think twice about. If he's drafted before we pick then AP looks alot better, but I still believe we wont go with AP. Why? If Joe is gone we'll go with Branch or Anderson. then go RB in round 2. Where the best RB in the draft may fall to. His name is Michael Bush and at 6-3 247 with a 40 time of 4.5 this folks is the prototypical RB for the Cleveland Browns a big fast brusier that will make Droughns look like the slow FB oaf that he is. With the aquasistion of Dielman at guard and the move of Shaffer to RT and the resinging of Fraley our o line will look like this.
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This is a much improved line over last year and will be a line that we can run behind. Look no further then the Chargers this year. LT ran behind the left side of the line 70% of the time behind a LT rookie and one of the Browns newest additions come free agency Dielman. So this can be done. Everyone out there that thinks we're goijng to get tow high profile line men in FA again this year. Stop kidding yourselves...
This will also give us the cap room to drop some major money on another shutdown corner in Asante Samuels which we'll need desperately with Baxter and Cutch on the way out. We've got a great dime back in Holly or Pool if we sign Russell which i hope we do...
This my friends is the right way to go...
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Are we talking possible, plausible, or likely?
Is it possible? Yes. Is it plausible? yes. Is it likely, no.
Is it a reach to suggest we'll go after Peterson just because Chud was a TE's coach where a future HOF'er ran?
Emphatically, yes.
Toad, I'm glad you responded because it was your initial post in another thread I was referring to but I didn't want to call you out. Ooops, I guess I just did.  Anyway, you hit my point dead on... It is not out of the realm of possibility that this is all part of a plan that Phil has in mind for the off-season. So yes, it is possible and plausible. That's all I was getting at. I wasn't trying to suggest that AP is on the same plane of existence as LT. That is, indeed, ludicrous because, at this point, it's just plain unproven and will be for quite some time. NO ONE is like LT. But that doesn't mean that Phil doesn't have hopes of Peterson someday being like LT. And IF he hired Chud to install a similar offense to that of San Diego than it is possible or plausible that his intentions are to go with Peterson in the draft. Will it happen? Who knows. Is it MORE LIKELY now that we have Chud? No, in fact, I think Phil had his sights on Peterson before he had his sights on Chud. But it is very possible that this is all part of Phil's master plan.
And Nick, your suggestions are all well and good but you're assuming a lot will happen. You're assuming Bush will fall to the second round and you're assuming we'll pick up Dielman in FA, move Shaffer to RT, and resign Fraley. If any of those things doesn't happen, then what do we do?
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You are right it will take everything falling in the right place for it to happen starting with signing Dielman and then Thomas being there when we make our first pick. I like the odds as of right now though but anything can happen in the next two months...
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I know...running the ball has never been mentioned here before Chud arrived...What a Novel Idea...lol 
It don't change anything. If we were going for Peterson we still go for him - If we were going for Thomas we still go for him.
Come on folks one genius Journalist throws a bone the Peterson pimps way and now he's brilliant...lol
Nothing changes regardless of this reporters opinions.
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And IF he hired Chud to install a similar offense to that of San Diego than it is possible or plausible that his intentions are to go with Peterson in the draft.
Here's where you're reaching again.
You've stated that you believe Savage may have hopes that Peterson becomes LT. Because of that belief, combined with the offense Chud was associated with, but didn't run, in San Diego, we now have a situation where:
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Sounds like you've all but convinced yourself that Peterson was Savage's choice from the get-go. That kind of takes away all of your objectivity, doesn't it
Let's not confuse what's possible with what's likely. Some of it is my own fault for using a looser definition of "plausible."
If someone wants to say that he may have this master plan to build around Peterson, I can accept that, even if I don't agree with the idea. What I can't accept is a discussion which somehow connects Chud and his ties to the Chargers as something which increases the probability of us taking Peterson. There just isn't a shred of evidence to tie all that together.
I think what's more likely is that Chud wasn't our first choice, but we ended up with him anyway because of other circumstances. To me, that removes even the faintest doubt of a connection between Chud and Peterson.
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Chudzinski wants to implement the San Diego-style offense used by Cam Cameron. To do that, he needs a star running back, which points to strong consideration of Adrian Peterson as a first-round pick.
No thats in your mind Steve..U first need linemen to make any back go..
Then U need the back and Peterson( a Back I do like a lot) is not the only back that be a home run hitter..
Marshawn Lynch is a good steady inbetween the tackle runner and he can break it home too.
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The other thing...there is a RB in this draft that is LT like in all shape n form of his style and it ain't Peterson. So if this was a LT look a like Master Plan from the get go...we are dropping back to get Lynch
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If someone wants to say that he may have this master plan to build around Peterson, I can accept that, even if I don't agree with the idea. What I can't accept is a discussion which somehow connects Chud and his ties to the Chargers as something which increases the probability of us taking Peterson. There just isn't a shred of evidence to tie all that together.
Sorry to break down your post, but this portion caught my attention...
I agree with the idea that hiring RC (same initials as Romeo  )...doesnt necessarily mean we will take Peterson. Savage did not sit down and say, "After I choose my OC, then I'll know who I should draft"....
I think (<--- note that word) it's moreso Savage has Peterson in his sights and is bringing in a guy who has had some hands on experience with an offense utilizing both the TE and an elite back. Is this concrete evidence that I expect you take take as anything more than speculation.....No, you're smarter than that......but, with all the liberties and "reading btw the lines" that goes on in this site, allow me to do likewise...
If you asked me what notion came first, Peterson and then bringing in Chud -OR- Chud then thinking about Peterson....I think it's the first...
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Okay Toad, well, if you firmly believe that Phil got stuck taking Chud because he didn't get someone else (may I ask who?), then I can see where my ideas are strange to you. But I do think that Savage has a plan in mind. It may or may not ever work out that way but I do think he has a scenario in his head that he is trying to make happen. And I think that scenario involves having Chud run an offense like he was used to in San Diego and I think that scenario involves having Adrian Peterson as our feature back. Now, what connection do those two facets of the scenario hold? I have no idea. Will the scenario even play out like he wants? I have no idea. But I do think Phil has a plan. Or at least, I think it's plausible to think he has a plan. And I think it's plausible to think his plan is what I have suggested. That's all I'm saying. You can't rule it out, IMHO.
And eotab: I wasn't going off of Doerschuk's comment and making it gospel or planting a crown on his head. I have had these thoughts about AP for a while and they were merely strengthened when we hired Chud and then again reinforced by one of the Browns' beat-writers. Doesn't mean I am now his biggest fan. Just something I had been thinking about for some time and it's nice to see I'm not the only one.
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You mean like my thoughts of a guy who knows how much a LeftTackle can make a good offense running team into a scoring machine and utilize a TE n RB to the max effect. Scoring TDs...yep me too.
Look needs...we need both - Shaffer aint no LT like RD aint no stud RB. SD Chargers O btw had both. And let me know when LTomlinson is in this draft...then I'll think about getting him. Thats like me saying Orlando Pace we are getting.
Thomas is Thomas and Peterson is Peterson.
Chud coming hear will not influence either as the choice one way or the other. If two RBs were the choice I can see the fact we got Chud who would be bringing a Charger type O in then I'd see which RB of the two fit the best. But if Thomas is the BPA then Savage gets him - if Peterson is the BPA then Savage gets him.
Chud aint changing anything - his philosphy is not that different where things are a changing. Personnel wise things stay the same. As do our draft plans.
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So much for some of the dolts not believing this because there was no "official word" (one of our beat writers proclaiming it)...
So I'm a dolt for wanting to wait for conformation before I get up in arms?
So I'm a dolt because I don't fall over myself to condemn the Browns FO over unconfirmed reports//
You know what, I'm damn proud to be a dolt that doesn't jump to conclusions...
Personally,,, I'd rather deal in fact.
Now as much as I'm sure it's probably true,,, The Falcons Site hasn't confirmed it and the Browns official site still has Rosburg as the ST Coach..
Perhaps I'll be a dolt a little longer so you can get your jollies from thrashing me..... But I'm waiting until the Browns say he's gone or the Falcons say he's there.... Got it pilgrim!
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j/c Well there goes Grimm coming to Cleveland Cardinals | Grimm hired as assistant head coach/offensive line Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:07:45 -0800 The Arizona Cardinals have officially announced the hiring of assistant coach Russ Grimm as the team's new assistant head coach/offensive line. Grimm and the Cardinals' new head coach Ken Whisenhunt worked together with the Pittsburgh Steelers. www.kffl.com
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Breaking Coaching News
Russ Grimm By Scout.com
Posted Jan 23, 2007
From the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., Scout.com has received breaking news in the NFL coaching world on three different fronts.
Scout.com has learned the Arizona Cardinals have fired offensive line coach Steve Loney and have replaced him with Pittsburgh Steelers OL coach Russ Grimm.
The Cleveland Browns were denied permission to talk to Dallas Cowboys assistant coach Tony Sparano to become their offensive line coach.
The Carolina Panthers are showing interested in hiring Cleveland Browns offensive line coach Jeff Davidson as the Panthers offensive line coach or offensive coordinator. He was interviewed for those positions, but his hiring isn't finalized yet. Davidson’s contract was up in Cleveland.
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Allow me to venture a guess.......
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Im sure this will be so until the find a Parcells replacement and then they will decided if they want to retain him.
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Davidson leaving Browns for Carolina 4:55 p.m. Jeff Davidson, assistant head coach/offensive line coach, is leaving the Browns to be offensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers, the Charlotte News and Observer is reporting. Davidson took over from Maurice Carthon last year as the Browns offensive playcaller for the final 10 games. He interviewed for the offensive coordinator position two weeks ago, but was passed over for Rob Chudzinski, who was hired on Saturday. Davidson's contract with the Browns had run out. - Tony Grossi, tgrossi@plaind.comhttp://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/browns/index.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_browns/archives/2007_01.html#228647
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Naaa Vers... They are a mess,,, but remember this,, if you wanna make an omelet,, you gotta break a few eggs,, So, it might be a good mess 
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As long as your Venture goes to the Steelers as well...they just lost their OC and the guy who lost out of the HC job is now leaving them to join Zona.
But Davidson leaving here after he was jilted for another is Abby Normal.
I don't know about a mess. The offense is changing.
I would like to know why Rosburg is leaving - that is strange.
Davidson and the QB coach who interviewed and were turned down now want to leave - that is not too Abbyish.
I know Parcells met with his coaches to speak to them about jobs. I wish we would be allow permission one time to interview these coaches.
The offense is being overhauled. Not big news and not going anywhere. Our defense has shown strides and haven't been broken up. Guess what Davidson is taking his ball and going home. Maybe just maybe we aren't in the wrong here.
JMHProposal...but I am worried the O might drop to 32
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The Cleveland Browns were denied permission to talk to Dallas Cowboys assistant coach Tony Sparano to become their offensive line coach.
I guess that Sylvio and Johnny Sac weren't available?
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Got it pilgrim!
LMFAO!!!!!
Seems you have your lycra thong on backwards today...
Verse is right... you have some sensitivity issues.. 
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LT Joe Thomas
LG Kris Dielman
C Hank Fraley/LeCharles Bentley
RG Joe Andruzzi/Lennie Friedman/Isaac Sowells
RT Kevin Shaffer
Nick, there is NO way you convince me that Druzzi and Shaffer on the right side together, makes this a better OL. It would be like having a house in FL with a sink hole on the right side of the house....not good!
Now if you replace Druzzi with someone like Steinbach then you have something, btw, your Center to left side is solid.
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Allow me to venture a guess.......
I'm the only one to think the Browns are a mess.
This is what happens when you axe most of the staff but leave the head coach...the guys you want out are canned, and the guys you want to keep see a sinking ship and take the first safe harbor that they can find.
Once the decision(right or wrong) was made that big changes to the staff were necessary, Romeo should have been the first to go.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
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I would like to know why Rosburg is leaving - that is strange.
I suppose that it could be what Peen professes,,,, or it could be that he doesn't see enough changes for the team to be a winner, or he feels that Atlanta is closer to being a contender that Cleveland, or it could be that he's gonna lose one of his best guys in Northcutt and he knows that Atlanta is going after him or it could be that the climate Atlanta is better than the climate in Cleveland,,,
or I suppose it could just be the money..........
Whewwwwwww, Guessing is tiring
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LOL......that is your interpretation, but mine is quite different.
What I was implying is that firing coaches is not cure. I would have preferred the Browns actually stick w/a scheme and their coaches and upgrade the talent.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
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LMFAO!!!!!
Seems you have your lycra thong on backwards today...
Verse is right... you have some sensitivity issues..
Vers has never been completely right since childhood,,, as for my lycra thong,,, yea, I got it on backwards,,,, what's your problem with that..
I don't know if this board has a rule about calling posters names or not, but I don't do it out of common sense.. you clearly haven't learned that lesson..
#GMSTRONG
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It is kind of odd to fire so many while keeping the HC. In most cases, the staff is hired BY the HC. He may change a guy here or there every so often but for this kind of large scale house cleaning, well, I can't remember seeing much of this. It would certainly scare the bageezus out of some of the other coaches. So, now if we get all these new coaches...and stink up the place next year...and Romeo gets tossed...what will happen to all of these shiney new coaches? A lot of THEM will lose their job because the new coach will probably bring in HIS guys. In theory, we COULD be looking at large scale changes for a couple of years straight...or longer, because maybe the '08 staff wants to switch back to a 4-3 D.
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Vers has never been completely right since childhood,
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I don't know if this board has a rule about calling posters names or not, but I don't do it out of common sense.. you clearly haven't learned that lesson..
LMAO.......can you say.......hypocrite?
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
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Changing all these coaches is a mistake.
The talent was not in place and they did NOT receive a fair shot. I am not saying they were great coaches, but the combination of poor talent and a lack of time they received stacked the deck against them.
Not too many people want to acknowledge how many changes the Browns have undergone since Junior took over. They pointed to early changes as necessary and that he was bringing in the right guys....his guys. Two freaking years later and a large portion of his guys are gone.
The Browns are an unstable franchise. And it is hard to win when you subcribe to such a philosophy.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
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Vers has never been completely right since childhood,
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I don't know if this board has a rule about calling posters names or not, but I don't do it out of common sense.. you clearly haven't learned that lesson..
LMAO.......can you say.......hypocrite?
And the funniest part of it all, I was replying to Peen and singled no one out by name except by referring to them as a dolt... Guess Demonshot felt that shoe was the perfect fit LMFAO!!
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