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Davidson gets Offensive Coorinadator job for Carolina.

I did not see this posted anywhere! If already posted please delete refs..........long day at the office!

Here is the link!

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/

not surprised, I'm sure he wants his shot too!

Sorry to see him leave, but can understand why

Yeah, he leaves right after Russ Grimm is hired as the assistant head coach/offensive line coach of the Cardinals. The same spot Davidson was for us.

I had High hopes for Davidson, and I pimped him big time when we hired him.

Wanted to see him get his chance here...

He is a pretty nice guy and the players will like him there just as they did here...

Good Luck JD!

Good luck to him. In the end it may work out better for us. not knocking Davidson either, just saying some fresh ideas on the coaching staff may not be a bad thing.

Well, once Chud was hired, we kind of expected this.
And I had high hopes of the Patriots style offense we might've had.

I thought Davidson got a real bad rep here from the fans. I went to one Browns game after the change of OC and the guy behind me (and others I passed) kept complaining that the offense wasn't any different. Of course it wasn't going to be much different, he was still using Carthon's playbook and during a season it is hard to re-write the thing. I don't know if he will be a great OC and eventually a head coach, but when he came here he had the rep of being someone potentially able to take that spot, and was wanted by the Jets as the OC before we blocked it, then he gets let go before he gets an honest chance at the job. I wish him all the luck in the world in Carolina, I still think he could be a fine OC.

Things got so messed up this year it's hard to tell the good from the bad. I don't have an opinion on Davidson either way. He didn't show me much, but I understand he had some things working against him too.

Obviously, RAC - err, Opie - liked Chud better. We should just **cough** trust the decision that was made.

Although, trust isn't exactly something this regime has built a lot of to this point.

An interesting take on Davidson from Yahoo!

Panthers name Browns assistant Davidson offensive coordinator
By MIKE CRANSTON, AP Sports Writer
January 23, 2007

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- The Carolina Panthers hired Cleveland Browns assistant Jeff Davidson as their offensive coordinator Tuesday.

Davidson, who was the Browns' assistant head coach/offensive line coach, will take over for Dan Henning, who was fired last week.

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Carolina also announced that Dave Magazu, who has served as tight ends coach since 2003, will take over as offensive line coach for the Mike Maser, who was also fired last week in a coaching shake up after Carolina finished a disappointing 8-8 and failed to make the playoffs.

Davidson's hiring likely means coach John Fox wants the Panthers to focus on the running game. Before joining Cleveland, the 39-year-old Davidson spent eight seasons as tight ends/assistant offensive line coach with New England. Corey Dillon rushed for 1,635 yards in 2004, when the Patriots won the Super Bowl.

Davidson left for Cleveland in 2005 and served as the team's offensive coordinator for the final 10 games this season in relief of Maurice Carthon. But Davidson was replaced himself earlier this month by Rob Chudzinski.

"Jeff has worked under some outstanding coaches, has a background with productive offenses and has been part of three Super Bowl victories with the Patriots," Fox said. "He is a highly regarded young coach who has experienced every phase of the NFL as a player and coach and we look forward to having him on our staff."

The Panthers, hampered by numerous injuries, averaged just over 16 points a game, nearly eight fewer than in 2005, when Carolina lost to Seattle in the NFC championship game.

Henning was criticized for being too conservative and not getting star receiver Steve Smith more involved in the offense.

"I am excited about this great opportunity," Davidson said. "It is an outstanding staff and I look forward to the challenge that lies ahead."

Davidson beat out Panthers quarterbacks coach Mike McCoy and Cincinnati Bengals quarterbacks coach Ken Zampese, who both interviewed for the position.

Last week Carolina hired former New York Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis as secondary coach, replacing Rod Perry, who was fired along with Henning and Maser.

nothing gained nothing lost. although our line was injury riddled, it never performed up to its potential under him, and he wasn't impressive; save 1 game as a coordinator. he may be a great one, one day, but he hasn't shown any flashes here.

Well, he didn't exactly do wonders with the offense after taking over. Nor with the line. Hopefully there's actually a good candidate out there somewhere.

It didn't take him long to find a OC job in Carolina.

I wonder what it is we didn't like about Davidson??

Like lots of you guys, I had high hopes for Davidson.. Not sure why I did, maybe its just the idea of change that appealed to me,, Not sure.

But if you break it down, he was solely in charge of the Oline for the last two years and frankly, I don't know if he just didn't have the talent to work with or if he just couldn't get the most out of them.. or if in the end, it was just the injuries,,,, but they have been bad.

I guess the truth is, if the Offense is bad, then perhaps what we need is to get rid of the old and bring in the new. We were really that bad on O last season so I suppose these things gotta happen..

I wish him well,

That still leads me back to Romeo. If the guy was so bad at selecting people on the offensive side of the ball, it makes me think he wasn't prepared to be a head coach.

Plus, it isn't like the D was exactly stellar. They just lucked out that the O was worse.

We actually wanted him to stay, but he wanted to explore other options. I knew he was interviewing in Arizona and Carolina. Actually thought he would end up in Arizona, but after Grimm went there he too the Carolina job. I believe he didn't see and opportunity for advancemant here. He was just passed over for the OC job, he probably felt there was no way he would be considered for the HC job if it ever came available. This was nothing personal on either part just a business move and setting himself up in the right situation for advancement.

I agree. I have said the same thing.

But the fact remains he was deemed not ready or good enough for the job here yet he is good enough to do the job in Carolina.

It probably just boils down to window dressing. The Browns know they have to change the fans attitude and are just making changes to let people think they are on top of it...

And next year, we will suck, Chud will suck because we don't have players and the head coach is a goof.

Right now, I would say the odds are 70% we will be doing this again next off-season....only it will be an entire staff and GM we will be seeking.

Reluctantly, I'll say that RAC may have picked poorly, but to be honest, even some of the most successful coaches have had to make changes while building thier teams,,,, So while it's possible that RAC just picked poorly, it's equally possible that the talent level was so poor that any coach would look bad,,

I'm just not sure which is the case here.

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But the fact remains he was deemed not ready or good enough for the job here yet he is good enough to do the job in Carolina.

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Not saying this is the case, but what if Chud just came in and blew thier minds with his plans and preparation. Maybe, and we'll never know this, davidson was the front runner and Chud just came in a beat him out for the job... Hey, it could be just that simple....

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But the fact remains he was deemed not ready or good enough for the job here yet he is good enough to do the job in Carolina.

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Peen...I said the same thing when many were pimping Davidson.

It is "fact" that Davidson lacked experience and his product as our fill in OC did not show that Davidson was close to being ready for the OC position.

Had the offense changed in a positive way, Davidson might have had a better chance.

It was a tough situation for anyone to try to succeed in, especially someone who had no (or very limited) prior experience as an OC.

Carolina is taking the gamble just as the Browns are gambling on Chud.

Davidson could have returned to the OLine coaching position but it was his choice to move up the coaching ladder and Carolina gave him that chance.

I wish Davidson well except when playing against the Browns.

I do believe the Browns made the best choice in hiring Chud though.

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I wonder what it is we didn't like about Davidson??

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That would be a good question for Frye to answere....Picking himself up after another sack....

Or the backs that didn`t see the pin holes to run through...

Even the refs..."why did you call that hold,on that 3rd and 3 ?"

Hope he does well...nice to see all his supporters show up after he's gone...lol The grass is always greener syndrome.

We were changing our offense...Davidson, Chud - it doesn't matter. We departed with Mo Carthon and his Offense. We were going to put in a new offense and we got basically a new OL - once again. So there really is no continuity involved. Frye and the WRs/TEs have continuity with each other. Routes are routes and timing is timing regardless of the Playbook. There isn't one route that is new from one philosophy to another. That continuity isn't going to change. OL is big time in continuity.

Shaffer is the only returning OLman of note...and if things go right he will be playing RT a new position anyways.

We didn't lose an OC - that we lost mid-season in Mo...We lost our OL coach.

That part I don't like but as said - I don't see the drafted players needing continuity. That would be Sowells and we were using him at OG n OT so he had no continuity anyways.

We blew up our offense cause it was not looking professional. RAC let Mo run it and design it and organize it. He had more of a hand with the D. Mo's organization and communication did him in. We had factions - the only thing that bothered me with Davidson and now that he is gone I will say my piece on him. Is that he didn't tow the TEAM line and follow his OC. He built a wall between Mo n the OL - and sure Mo was equally responsible. But it got to a point where he folded his arms and said OK if thats the way you want it have it your way...here Mo you want to call the OL schemes go n do it. Then simply stepped aside and Mo had to do OL as well as the rest. No it wasn't all Davidson's fault and thats not what I'm saying. But it also wasn't all Mo's fault. There had to be some middle road and both were head strong.

But I got a military background and a football team is like an Army...you got your superiors. You got your Cluster Fudges...but an OL coach is like a Non-Com. You'll never see a Sargeant lead a Mutiny against an Officer. He'll say yes sir, bite his tongue...not be afraid to say his peice with the Officer but never in front of the men.

What really bothered me was there was a rift between the OL and Mo...that should never have happened...NEVER

That is what I didn't like about Davidson. And it doesn't surprise me to see him go - from the get go he didn't seem like a TEAM guy. We needed to stroke his ego - like Napolean another Sargeant wanting to Rule. He never was our OL coach he had to be Asst Head Coach - he had to be OC. Well what happened with doing your job and earning your keep.

JMHO