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Come on...one of you young kids who are better at the computer stuff...come on get something on a blog...then send it to PFT... You know.
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For what ever reason I couldn't fall asleep last night so I stayed up and watched the 11 pm news on Channel 3.. They did thier little tease at the beginning of the newscast about rumors in berea... Then when it came down to it,, Jim Donovan (who I have great respect for) basically said it was a bunch of hogwash (not his words,, but mine). I was starting to drift off, so I don't remember if he said anything else about it... This rumor really took the cake... 
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Don´t know where else to put this....so here goes...and don´t shoot the messenger  SOMETHING TELLS ME BRADY QUINN IS NOT THE STARTER IN CLEVELAND … SORRY, MICKER… I know things have been quiet on the shores of Lake Erie in terms of free agency, but the word I’m hearing is that Brady Quinn will have to win the job in Cleveland. Don’t be surprised if the Browns make a play for one of the quarterbacks in the draft. As they make over their facility, they might be making more changes with the roster. Quinn is too inconsistent with his accuracy, as is former starter Derek Anderson. The Browns might fit into the category of what John Madden used to refer to as “having a lot of something means you have nothing.” (And the Micker I’m referring to is my son, who happens to be the biggest Brady Quinn fan in the world. This won’t make him happy.) http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/notes-from-lombardi-9/
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You know I'd be willing to bet Eric Mangini isn't sure how he feels about either DA or BQ yet.
So anyone claiming to know what he's (Mangini) going to do is just firing a load of buckshot and hoping he hits something. IMO
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I agree my friend.
With the new tandem in town, we can throw out almost everything we think we know about how things will be.....and the issue of QB isn't one of the things we can bank on.
I would say the best bet is Pontibrand will probably be long snapping, followed by we will probably keep the same kickers.
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I'm assuming this is Lombardi who has been on NFL Network lately. Combine n FA stuff.
We have been tight as a drum and there has been NO LEAKS one way or another. I do see a lot of Assumption and some amateur Sherlock Holmes stuff that I usually do.
but the word I’m hearing is that Brady Quinn will have to win the job in Cleveland.
Actually I guess you can say the word came from Mangini as he stated that in his last Presser regarding the QBs. So muttering has been going on ever since I'm sure within the grape vine...but remember they are mutterings cause we have been Tight as a Drum.
Don’t be surprised if the Browns make a play for one of the quarterbacks in the draft.
At the combine we interviewed Sanchez - there it was right in the open. This opened the door to any speculators to state the above.
Quinn is too inconsistent with his accuracy, as is former starter Derek Anderson.
this is where I pretty much started *L* cause it was like I see where he is coming from.
DA had 27 starts
BQ 1 start healthy 66%
2 starts with a fracture on his throwing index finger 40%
Put it together and BQ 50.6% and DA 50.2 So like many STATNIKS he ASSumes that BQ and DA are inaccurate.
I think we know one is and the other we still need confirmation. Cause thems who don't wish to think so will state that a fracture on the index finger must count. Those who believe he is accurate will state all we got is the Denver game and he was 66%.
Unless BQ has developed Steve Sax disease I would have to say no.
But I'm not sure about the deductive reasoning surrounding this.
I just find that this would have to involve too many people as we got to be talking about a possible draft day trade if we do this. I cannot possibly see us making this decision (drafting Sanchez) without getting a Mega deal involved. So much for the earning the starting position claim and cause it would have to be BQ traded cause DA is the BACK up but can become a temp starter till the rook is ready! Part II
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You know I'd be willing to bet Eric Mangini isn't sure how he feels about either DA or BQ yet.
So anyone claiming to know what he's (Mangini) going to do is just firing a load of buckshot and hoping he hits something. IMO
not only that but since the new regime is not tied to either QB...what if they are not completely sold on Quinn and someone comes in (perhaps TB) and offers 2 1st rounders for Quinn?
What if this happens right when Matt Stafford unexectedly falls to the #5 spot? You would have to at least consider it, right?
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Wasn't there a nutty rumor that was pegged to here/ the old board a few years back?
My memory is shot, but I swear I recall something along those lines...
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Actually, as i typed that, that thought went through my head as well. I'm pretty sure it was on the old board, though... probably one of the many Barry Sanders to Cleveland rumors...
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I don't know anything about this guy. My question to you is do you think maybe his knowledge of Quinn's accuracy stems from what he has done in the two years he has been practicing?
We have heard that Quinn doesn't always look good in practice. He has been mentioned as a "Gamer". Maybe Mangini doesn't think that is a good thing.
I, like you think these guys are pretty much throwing thing at the wall and see what sticks. Things have been extremely quiet in Berea, which is a good thing.
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We have heard that Quinn doesn't always look good in practice. He has been mentioned as a "Gamer". Maybe Mangini doesn't think that is a good thing.
I don't know about what is said about Quinn, but I do know it was said Charlie Fry always looked bad in practice but he was a "gamer".
It makes me wonder exactly how bad in practice he really looked?
If what we saw in the games was his "gamer" mode, it is almost comical to think how bad his practice reps had to have been.
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*big yawn while stretching out arms* ..... *L* ... Lombardi has a great site and he brings lots to the table ... I read him ... well I did for about 3 months during the season and haven't been back due to time restraints .. will get back there soon .. its a good site .. possibly the best out there on many fronts ... Lombardi has never been a BQ fan ... he was one of the dolts that said he was innacurrate pre-draft .. he has been bashing BQ since I been reading his site ... I really like the guy ... but hes WRONG on this one ... just thought I'd let U know his backround here so U had a reference for his point of view .... its dead time ... we have obviously went from being the loosest lips in the industry to one of the tighest teams as far as leaking info ... so there is pretty much NOTHNG to write about for us ... and obviously our QB situation is a hot topic ... so thats what they go to .. and the dolts aroun dhere just play right into it and hinge on every word said ... NOTHING HAS CHANGED since the end of last year ... DA is still DA ... BQ is still BQ ... BQ is still light years better than DA ... the regime change does not alter that at all ... the dolts are right when they say that the new crew has no ties to BQ ... but that does not CHANGE WHO THEY ARE ... BQ has played in a total of 2 and some change real games ... he was healthy for approximately 1/2 that time ... weather U believe he played good or bad that is NOT NEARLY ENOUGH INFO to start making even PRE-MATURE JUDGEMENTS about his game ... it is just not near ENOUGH DATA to start drawing any conlusions from ... were also trying to do the impossible and build up what little trade value DA has left by doing the RIGHT THING (even though its a useless facade) ... and not saying a word about it othet than it will be an open comp .... it only benifits us to say that at this point ... Jeannie. Daboll and EVERYONE ELSE IN THE NFL know who our man is ... the only ones being fooled are the dolts around here and the entire NFL .. even most of the hacks reporting this know its not true ... but they need to report sumptin .. so the hacks who are getting nuttin from berea and need to write sumptin are gonna point to the new regime and the ties and our very small amount of info on BQ and RUN WTH IT ... and the dolts will buy it hook, line and sinker .. hence discusions like this ... witch are nuttin more than MEANINGLESS BANTER to pass the time away .. BQ will be our starter ... and it won't even be close .... NOT EVEN CLOSE ... in this case ... lots of smoke .. and no fire ... not even a small one .. otto .. i would take your bet in a heartbeat ... they know full well who the best QB is .... U can kid yourself all U want .. your good at it ... BQ IS DA MAN .. AND EVERYONE ION BEREA KNOWS IT ... just cause there not announcing it does not mean they don't know it ... all I'll say is .. IF JEANNIE WANTED PENNINGTON OVER FAVRE .... well even U dolts can figure the rest of that one out .... 
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You can kid yourself. Hell, you've been doing it since Brady was drafted. But you can't kid the rest of us. They may WISH that BQ takes the reins and runs away with the competition but I'd still bet that they are far from sure of it.
I hope he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. But as of now I still have my doubts. As does the coaching staff, IMO.
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Hell, you've been doing it since Brady was drafted.
how so??? .. my view has not changed one iota since BEFORE we got him .. I said PRE DRAFT how good I thought he would be ... my views have not changed one little bit ...
i have been wrong about exaclty one thing in regards to my boy ,... last year i thought he would kick DA's ass in the comp. .. insteady the powers that be ... decided to just hand DA the job .. so i was WRONG ... *shrugs shoulders* ...
I said it when U and almost everyone was crawling up DA's jock and proclaiming him the greatest thing since sliced bread ... I called his 2nd half of the season CRASH in 07 and I called last years continued decline by your saviour ...
and i'm going to tell u what ... if Jeannie and Coke don't know it ... WERE IN DEEP TROUBLE ... its not real hard to figure out ...
U see Otto ... DA is he was 2 years ago ... and so is BQ .. and I NEVER WAIVERED in that .. unlike almost everyone else ... i've said it since day 1 ...
U WILL SEE ... all BQ needs is his chance ... DA was given ample opportunity to prove who he was ... and he did ... now its my boys turn ... and he will ...
as Styx said .. "your fooling yourself" ..... but lets all pray that DA hasnot fooled the new regime .. cause if he has .. it will be all our losses .. as were NOT IN GOOD HANDS .... and thats the truth of the matter bro ...
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j/c Broncos | Drama with Cutler continues Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:51:40 -0700 Mike Klis, of The Denver Post, reports Denver Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels and QB Jay Cutler talked on the phone Monday, March 9, but things were not smoothed over for the disgruntled quarterback. Per a league source, Cutler left the conversation believing he will be traded by the Broncos between now and the NFL Draft if the team finds the right deal. The Broncos previously announced Cutler would not be traded. Cutler thought everything would be smoothed over during the call, but was reportedly told by McDaniels that no one is untradeable. The team told him they expect him to report for their offseason conditioning program, but, per a source, Cutler has not decided if he will report Monday, March 16. www.KFFL.com
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IMO, Cutler needs to put his "big-boy" pants on and stop crying about the fact that he was a part of trade talks. The sooner he realizes that this is a business and changes occur all the time (particularly when a new coach/FO arrives on the scene), the better off he'll be. Grow up kid. You're not in college any more. If there are any irreplaceable players in this league, there are very few of them and you would NOT be counted among such a group. 
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^ Exactly.
Heck, LT was almost cut by the Chargers yesterday. He's freaking "LT"....the guy who's rushes for 1,100 yards on a bad year, 25 TD's in one season and is essentially a Hall of Fame lock. If a 30-year old LT can almost be released, than Cutler can be traded in a heartbeat.
...I understand that a 30-year old RB and a 22-year old QB that was highly drafted are two different things.....I'm more or less talking about names. San Diego was ready to dump LT because of a cap number. And he's the face of the franchise. Cutler hasn't done squat for the team, other than be at the wheel of one of the worst regular season collapes in NFL history.
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I heard a sit down was scheduled with McDaniels, Cutler and Bowen? (the owner) before their team getting together.
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I love watching the Broncos fall apart with McDaniels.
Living in Colorado I get harassed all the time about loving the Browns. So, for once I love seeing them in turmoil. Keep it up Jay! Don't stop!!
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I have to wonder what would have happened if McDaniels was our Head Coach ..... Maybe we'd be without a 2nd, and Quinn in some weird 3 way trade deal ...... and would have Cassel as our QB. 
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On a side note, this is why I wanted no part of hiring a 32-year old head coach, especially one that learned how to be a hard-ass under Bellyache.
This we know for sure: Cutler is a primma-donna who's too big for his britches. However, in today's NFL, you have to coddle these players sometimes. This isn't the 50's, and those coaches wouldn't survive in today's league. So instead of playing hardball as McDaniels has done, he should have given a little.
This is the inherent problem with people who learned under Bellyache. In one off-season, we've seen how 'Gini and now 'Daniels have taken a bad situation and made it worse by playing Billy-Badass. Until they have the success that Bellyache has earne, they can't be like him and get away with it.
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that WAS the meeting. it was a conference call between mcdaniels, the owner, and cutler after cutler did not return two phone calls from the owner. this thing is getting ugly and sure is fun to watch.
reports said that the owner told cutler he wasn't being traded but then mcdaniels said that every player is under evaluation and was available in trade. you can say that cutler needs to grow up and stop crying but at the same side, mcdaniels is just fueling this. it goes both ways in this case.
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reports said that the owner told cutler he wasn't being traded but then mcdaniels said that every player is under evaluation and was available in trade. you can say that cutler needs to grow up and stop crying but at the same side, mcdaniels is just fueling this. it goes both ways in this case.
Maybe McDaniels is riding a power trip but until Cutler does something to have his name added to the untouchables list, he's available for trade. He's been good but not great.
While its a different sport and circumstances, if Wayne Gretzy can be traded, ANYONE can be traded.
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i don't disagree that cutler hasn't done enough to not be traded but did mcdaniels need to reiterate that any broncos player is available for trade? even if mcdaniels ended up trading him, at least in the meantime, mcd controlled the fire. this sounds more like stubborness on mcd's part.
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My take on this is that Cutler is not as mad about the possibility of a trade as he is about the Broncos FO lying about the initial "feelers". Add to that the owner tells him he's not going anywhere followed by McD saying he might. Can we say "mixed messages"?
I don't blame him for not wanting to be traded. Hell, he probably enjoys living in Denver and doesn't particularly want to leave. But he also knows that it's a possibility.
But, Jesus, Denver make up your mind on a story and stick to it.
Toad - Just because you don't like the guy doesn't make him a "primma-donna". Last time I checked he wasn't spending his bye week with Jessica Simpson in Cancun so I hardly think being pissed about a possible trade is primma-donna material. In addition, other than NE, Indy, NYG and Atl name me a team who wouldn't love to have this guy as it's QB. His ego may be too big for you but I'd take his talent any day.
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You clearly don't know the guy as well as most, since you aren't aware of all his little hijinxs.
He reportedly put on a fit when his QB's coach got fired and demanded a trade. That's part of the story you don't know.
Then, when Shanahan was fired, he again spoke out.
Then there's his bravado where he was quoted as saying he had a stronger arm than Elway ever had.
Then there were his refusals to take the organizations phone calls to talk about the trade rumors.
Like Jeff Garcia, he's appearing to be more about "me" than "we" and I want no part of that kind of act. Unlike Garcia, he wasn't promised one thing here then handed another.
Here's a little reading material for those that might think Cutler is entitled to act this way......
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Will someone please give Jay Cutler his pacifier, hand him his favorite blankie and put him back in his crib for his afternoon nap? Because if he cries anymore about a trade that didn't happen, we'll have to check his Pampers.
Cutler is the quarterback of the Denver Broncos. At least for now he is.
Turns out the Broncos are/were shopping him. The three-way trade between the Broncos, New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't reach critical mass, but names (Cutler to the Bucs, Matt Cassel to the Broncos) and numbers (first- and fourth-round draft picks to the Patriots) were discussed.
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But it didn't happen. Repeat: didn't happen.
Instead, the Patriots traded Cassel and his franchise-tag salary to the Kansas City Chiefs. And Cutler is still a Bronco.
But the mere thought of a possible trade upset Cutler so much that he went into full waaaa-waaaa-waaaa mode, wailing like an infant. Why are they being so mean to me? That sort of thing.
"I'm upset," he told The Denver Post. "I mean, I'm really shocked at this point."
And this from Cutler's agent, James "Bus" Cook, who told The Associated Press, "Nobody's going to call the [New York] Giants and ask for Eli [Manning]. Nobody's calling the [Indianapolis] Colts asking about Peyton [Manning]. [Tom] Brady? Come on. So, why call Denver and ask about Jay? And if they do call, why not say, 'That's not for discussion. What else do you want?'"
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Highlights of some of Jay Cutler's best moments in 2008.
Why call Denver and ask about Cutler? Because the Broncos haven't reached the playoffs since the 2005 season. Because Cutler's record as a starter is 17-20. Because new Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels just happened to coach Cassel last season. And Cassel's team finished 11-5, including a 41-7 victory against Cutler's Broncos in October.
Nobody is calling the Giants and the Colts about the Manning brothers because the Manning brothers actually reach the postseason and have won Super Bowls. And here's guessing somebody called the Patriots asking whether Brady might be available.
Cook, more than anyone, should know that anything is possible in the NFL. Just ask Brett Favre, one of Cook's longtime clients.
Don't get me wrong -- Cutler is a talent, possibly a major talent. His numbers keep tracking upward (4,526 passing yards, 25 touchdowns in '08), but so do his turnovers (18 interceptions, including four in Denver's last three games -- all losses) and hissy fits.
None of this Cutler trade talk likely would have happened if Mike Shanahan were still the Broncos' head coach. Shanahan is the guy who drafted Cutler with the 11th pick of the 2006 draft. They were attached at the hip pads.
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ESPN.com's Bill Williamson says in his AFC West blog that the heat is on new Broncos coach Josh McDaniels. blog.
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But Shanahan is Broncos history. It happens. Last week it happened to 11-time Pro Bowl linebacker Derrick Brooks of the Bucs. He was cut after 14 years.
Brooks didn't pout like Cutler. And his agent didn't issue any angry criticisms of the Bucs' decision. Instead, Brooks articulated the essential truth of the NFL: It's business, not personal.
"Everybody has a picture that they want painted their own particular way, but when the picture's not painted your way, you don't kick and scream," Brooks told reporters. "You be a man about it."
Cutler is kicking and screaming. Poor baby. He stiffed the Broncos when they requested a kiss-and-make-up session. Word is he won't even talk to McDaniels on the phone.
So what if the Broncos considered proposals from the Bucs? Who cares whether they listened to an offer from the Detroit Lions? When you haven't reached the playoffs since '05, when you gag away a three-game division lead with three games left, you listen to everybody about anybody.
Come to think about it, what's so bad about the Bucs? New coach -- Raheem Morris. New tight end -- Kellen Winslow. Newly re-upped wide receivers -- Antonio Bryant (franchise-tagged) and Michael Clayton. And did we mention that Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall was arrested again?
"If they were in fact trying to trade Jay Cutler, then I think that's a situation that's going to cause a very serious problem for the organization," Cook huffed and puffed.
Mile High Mistrust: Rumors
There are a few potential destinations for Jay Cutler if he ends up leaving Denver. Follow them every morning on Insider via NFL Rumor Central. Could he end up in Motown? NFL Rumor Central
Why? Because Cutler's precious feelings were hurt? Please.
The nontrade causes serious problems only if Cutler wants it that way. To whine about the Broncos' kicking the tires on a trade accomplishes nothing. Especially from a guy with zero playoff appearances and a grand total of 37 NFL games.
Cutler has accomplished nothing in this league. He has pretty passing numbers, but so what? It's time for him to do a Brooks and grow up. It's time for him to spit out the pacifier.
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Well, speaking out when the two coaches that you're most involved with get canned is hardly a "primma-donna" offense. And I did know about both. As far as taking phone calls, well, he was on the conference call yesterday so I guess his phone's working OK now. Look, you don't like the guy. That's fine. However, I don't think you can deny his talent as much as you'd like to. And frankly, if that goofy trade rumor from last week came true and he ended up here I guarantee you'd be hard-pressed to fine any football pundit that would bad mouth that acquisition. Except for some of the members of this board.......and of course, Diam would have a stroke. (Saying that might change your mind, I think. )
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Well, speaking out when the two coaches that you're most involved with get canned is hardly a "primma-donna" offense. And I did know about both.
Actually, very few QB's speak out when that happens, which makes it an offense.
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As far as taking phone calls, well, he was on the conference call yesterday so I guess his phone's working OK now.
Sure, after his agent told him to suck it up and be a man. He went several days without taking phone calls from his bosses. That is pretty much the definition of a primmadonna.
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Look, you don't like the guy. That's fine. However, I don't think you can deny his talent as much as you'd like to.
Feel free to show me where I've said one word about his talent, and specifically, where I denied it.
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And frankly, if that goofy trade rumor from last week came true and he ended up here I guarantee you'd be hard-pressed to fine any football pundit that would bad mouth that acquisition.
Basing an arguement on unvalidated trade rumors is risky business. I'm sure if we gave the Broncos two #1 picks and Rogers for Cutler the pundits still wouldn't say a word, right?
Listen man, I thought, and still believe, the most talented QB I've ever seen throw a football was Jeff George. However, there was never anything about his personality that made me think his talent would be worth it. Cutler's numbers are continuing to get better, and they should, but in just a few short years he's shown me all the warning signs that tell me he's the kind of guy you don't want on your team.
Though less talented, I'm more favorable to either Anderson or Quinn as our starter over Cutler. I've had enough of idiotic QB's and egomaniacle position players. Cutler right this moment is in bad standing. He stands an equal chance of getting worse as he does of becoming better.
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You're just rehashing your same old arguments for why you dislike Cutler. That's fine. Just don't expect me to agree. But if you're telling me you'd rather have a guy who essentially chokes under pressure or a guy that we know virtually nothing about over Jay Cutler then you're not half the talent evaluator you think you are. I think perhaps all that time out in the sun has cooked your brainpan.......
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If your reffering to the trade of Rogers/BQ for Cutler and there 2nd .. we'd have been the laughing stock of the league and rigtfully so ... to say no pundits would have had a word to say about it is only slightly more amusing than it is naive .. we'd have been getting $crewed in a big way ... we'd be "upgrading" at the QB position but then we'd be replacing Rogers for aquiring a 2nd rnd pick .. ya .. OK .. thats fair .. really fair deal there .. *L* .. thats the part I'd flip out over .... not the BQ/Cutler part ... and thats how you'd have to break it down ... how much did we upgrade the QB position vs how much did we downgrade our NT position and how much help is a 2nd rnd pick going to be ... and U are just enamored with Jay's numbers ... and part of that is cause like this writer U just ignore the negative #'s .... Jay has alot of talent .. he does some things very well .. well guess what .. so does BQ .. just wait .... Toad .. I can not wait until BQ gets his chance to dispell all your negative notions about him ... hes alot better than U think .. the questions will FINALLY BE ANSWERED THIS YEAR ... THANK GOD ... cause I am getting sick of this .. *L* .. a quick comparision between Cutler and BQ there both accurate .. there both mobile ... jay has more experience ... that's a today thing ... BQ will get up to speed very quickly .. his brain is one of his big weapons .... so it boils down to this ... Jays remarkably strong arm vs my boys decision making and leadership skills .. me .. I'll take the decision making and leadership 100 put of 100 times .. I am just so happy this is about to end ... my guess is I have one more rough year ahead of me with my boy ... after that it will be smooth sailing as even his staunchest critics after year 2 of the Quinn Era will be smiling that they were wrong ......
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Toad .. I can not wait until BQ gets his chance to dispell all your negative notions about him ... hes alot better than U think .. the questions will FINALLY BE ANSWERED THIS YEAR ... THANK GOD ... cause I am getting sick of this .. *L* ..
Probably not.... at the rate Mangini is going, he'll be trading for Pennington or Clemens right away as the new starter for the Cleveland Jets...I mean, Browns.
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Probably not.... at the rate Mangini is going, he'll be trading for Pennington or Clemens right away as the new starter for the Cleveland Jets...I mean, Browns.
What former Jet has Mangini signed to be a starter over a current Brown who is obviously better than him?
Heck, which former Jet has Mangini signed to be a starter? (maybe Elam...maybe)
Rex Ryan is bringinig in former Ravens.
Pioli is bringing in former Patriots.
Parcells was always had a long list of "Parcells guys" that followed him everywhere.
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He reportedly put on a fit when his QB's coach got fired and demanded a trade. That's part of the story you don't know.
I didn't know that. So the guy demands a trade, then cries because he thinks his team is shopping him around? What a tool.
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Actually I'd probably have been willing to take Cutler and their 2nd this year and a 2nd or 3rd next year for BQ and Rogers.
You see while you're in love with everything Quinn I see a guy that hasn't proven anything. Yet. He will probably end up being a good NFL QB. But I don't know that. And DA is, well, a slightly taller version of Tim Couch.
Which would leave us with Cutler. I happen to think that he's the real deal. Some people don't. One thing is for sure he's proven more than your boy which would be good enough for me.
Oh, and save the dolt BS for someone else. It gets pretty tedious reading that crap when you post it.
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One thing is for sure he's proven more than your boy which would be good enough for me.
hes has proven more than my boy ... and for one simple reason ... hes been given a chance ... as opposed to my boy ...
and the proving thing is a double edged sword ... hes proven he throws WAY TO MANY PICKS ... U guys all get awed at his TD's yet at the same time just IGNORE and/or WRITE off his INTERCEPTIONS ....
u also wish to ignore that he has PROVEN to be a BABY ... U refuse to accept what Toad says even though hes DEAD NUTS ...
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Oh, and save the dolt BS for someone else. It gets pretty tedious reading that crap when you post it.
then quit being a dolt and saying things like this ...
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Actually I'd probably have been willing to take Cutler and their 2nd this year and a 2nd or 3rd next year for BQ and Rogers.
thats better than the dumb ass rumor ... but it would still be a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE move for us ... who is going to play NT and DEMAND THE ATTENTION that Rogers does ... U do realize he is the ONLY GUY ON OUR D THAT OTHER TEAMS HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR ON EVERY PLAY ..
U go to the game s... U oughta notice he always has 2 or 3 guys on him ... well at least when the ball goes that way .... *L* ...
don't be a dolt and i won't infer your one ... but thanks for the posting advice .. I'll keep it in mind ... 
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Actually I'd probably have been willing to take Cutler and their 2nd this year and a 2nd or 3rd next year for BQ and Rogers.
thats better than the dumb ass rumor ... but it would still be a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE move for us ... who is going to play NT and DEMAND THE ATTENTION that Rogers does ...
Who would you rather have,,,Cutler, #5pick Raji, and a 2nd this year (give us three, or 4 of the top 50 picks in the draft), plus another 2nd next....or........Quinn and Rodgers? I can't believe you are even debating this....You are head over heals in love with that guy. What does he have on you? 
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You're just rehashing your same old arguments for why you dislike Cutler.
No, I'm explaining why Cutler is an ass of a player, not to you, but to anyone who didn't know all the story. One poster DIDN'T know he asked for a trade after they fired his QB's coach.
It's not all about you 
If you want to stick your head in the sand and choose form over substance, that's your decision, but that won't make it right.
The Jets just went that route, and the Dolphins laughed all the way to the playoffs.
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But if you're telling me you'd rather have a guy who essentially chokes under pressure or a guy that we know virtually nothing about over Jay Cutler then you're not half the talent evaluator you think you are.
And since you still can't think deeply enough to comprehend that this is about more than talent, I'll stop wasting both our time.
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U guys all get awed at his TD's yet at the same time just IGNORE and/or WRITE off his INTERCEPTIONS ....
It isn't ignoring...it's that double edged sword you mention....sometime you have to take the bad with the good....and as long as the good outweighs the bad, you deal with it.
IMO no picks with few points scored is worse that the other.
Somewhere you have to balance the view you want to take.
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