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and free up cap space for the future.
The rest of what you say kinda works, but the quoted part is not a part of the equation because absolutely NONE of the moves thus far have had any positive impacts on future cap numbers - even moreso when you consider that as of right now the future is uncapped.
Whatever is happening with this team right now, the cap has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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and free up cap space for the future.
The rest of what you say kinda works, but the quoted part is not a part of the equation because absolutely NONE of the moves thus far have had any positive impacts on future cap numbers - even moreso when you consider that as of right now the future is uncapped.
Whatever is happening with this team right now, the cap has absolutely nothing to do with it.
it might not have anything to do with the cap next year, but it very well could have to do with the $$$ that we have to spend next year. Lerner is a business man and we would have to hope that if we cut back spending now as an earmark to spend when we need to push our team over the top, he will.
just a thought.
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Cold hard cash kinda makes sense in some regards, but the cap doesn't, not at all.
But again... we're cutting off our nose to spite our face with players like Shaffer. He isn't the greatest by any means, but with a good Guard next to him he was decent enough -- and more importantly -- there isn't anyone better available for the same or less money - unless we're looking to draft one high, which seems like such a complete waste given our needs on defense. Why would you create another high need when you already have several greater ones?
It certainly makes no future sense in regards to Tuck or JJ though as both were/are in the last year of their deals.
It does explain why we've spent all of FA bargain bin shopping.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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and free up cap space for the future.
The rest of what you say kinda works, but the quoted part is not a part of the equation because absolutely NONE of the moves thus far have had any positive impacts on future cap numbers - even moreso when you consider that as of right now the future is uncapped.
Whatever is happening with this team right now, the cap has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Im just tying to look for any explanation. Even if they were saving cap space and there are better RTs out there at a better price. You dont get rid of players, just to get rid of them. I dont have any problem with someone getting released, when they get outplayed.  But right now, they dont have a better option. How much money was saved by cutting him now and not waiting till training camp to see what the other options were?
Maybe the new regime is trying to send a message in future contract negotiations when they want to lower their contract or for players that want a better contract then the one they already signed.
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Cash-wise, we saved the roster bonus and his salary.
Cap wise, we lost out on the deal.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Thats what I thought. I looked to me like they got rid of a player and still have the money count against them on the cap. It dont make sense. At least wait until you draft someone or sign another FA. If Schaffer still counts against the salary cap, at least use him in training camp and release him when there are better options 
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Cold hard cash kinda makes sense in some regards, but the cap doesn't, not at all.
But again... we're cutting off our nose to spite our face with players like Shaffer. He isn't the greatest by any means, but with a good Guard next to him he was decent enough -- and more importantly -- there isn't anyone better available for the same or less money - unless we're looking to draft one high, which seems like such a complete waste given our needs on defense. Why would you create another high need when you already have several greater ones?
It certainly makes no future sense in regards to Tuck or JJ though as both were/are in the last year of their deals.
It does explain why we've spent all of FA bargain bin shopping.
I also hate to say it because it has been a fear of mine for awhile now...but...
what if Lerner has been hit harder by the recession than we have been led to believe? and he still has that fancy new soccer team that is doing well to spend $$$ on too.
reasons we are cutting costs:
1. Kokinis is finding players are not performing to their contracts and is setting a precedent for the team that those players will be renegotiated or cut.
2. Mangini and Kokinis have looked at the team and decided there are certain areas on the team that need to be completely rebuilt and are cutting players in those areas.
3. The owner is demanding we cut costs and our FO is finding the best ways to do it.
This is just stream of thought, so what other reasons did I miss?
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Well, IMO....I agree with trading a QB...but it doesn't matter which one to me...pretty much who ever we can get the most out of....all the moves thus far aren't exactely something to write home about......So far, we have signed one potential starter in Barton...maybe Womack....everything else really did nothing more than create more holes....... 
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