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SEATTLE — Charlie Frye, QB

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What? No way! According to Coach B they were grooming Frye to take over.

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So Davin Holly is a free agent... I wasn't aware of that. I wonder if he'll get another shot with us, or perhaps we've moved on.

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SEATTLE — Charlie Frye, QB

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What? No way! According to Coach B they were grooming Frye to take over.

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He was right about a few things. You were one of them.

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its rare when u can get a slam in like that and its true .. CLASSIC ...

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He was right about a few things. You were one of them.

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hmm that's interesting.

whether or not anyone thought frye would pan out as a pro, let's just remember that holmgren brought the guy in and he's not the head coach anymore. the one consistent thing is the new coach will always bring in his own qb. frye played very well in the preseason (yes i know it's only preseason) but i doubt mora views him the same way holmgren, who is arguably the best person who could've developed frye, does.

i will always root for frye because i view him as the perfect type of person/leader to be a browns qb. too bad it didn't work out.

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Q: Do you crack jokes in the huddle?

A: Oh, yeah. We'll point people out in the stands, make fun of 'em ... can't have guys too tight.

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I don't know why people think he'd be the perfect leader. I thought his leadership was one of his faults, he let Braylon and Kellen bully him in the huddle and he always appeared to sulk.

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Quinn on the other hand...dude just screams "leadership."

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Frye's biggest problem was a weak arm... also he seemed to wait too long to throw the ball.

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I don't think that Frye's arm was all that weak ..... but he never seemed to anticipate anything ..... couldn't read a defense ... and had no pocket awareness. Other than that he was fine .....

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Frye's problems were:

1. Lack of pocket presence.
2. Staring down receivers.
3. Feeling the need to make a big play, every play.
4. Lack of arm strength.
5. Terrible line for his first two years.

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Quinn on the other hand...dude just screams "leadership."

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Based on what? I mean ... leaders don't usually get punched in the face by a teammate.

Hopefully he'll develop into an outstanding QB and leader .... but I don;t think he's there yet.

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Frye's problems were:

1. Lack of pocket presence.
2. Staring down receivers.
3. Feeling the need to make a big play, every play.
4. Lack of arm strength.
5. Terrible line for his first two years.

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j/k....I always thoughht Fry's biggest problem was "Small Hands",...

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Quinn on the other hand...dude just screams "leadership."

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Based on what? I mean ... leaders don't usually get punched in the face by a teammate.

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So, I guess S. Smith is the leader, or at least he'll determine who is by not punching him in the face.

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Well, the number of timeouts and delay of games decreased under Quinn. Reports came out that his huddle presence was tremendous.

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When you listen to him talk, he sounds like a bright, intelligent guy. His leadership was also one of his strengths coming out of college.

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Everything decreased under Quinn.. Offense, Scoring, good passes, stretching the field. You name it ..it decreased under Quinn

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His arm is a notch below Frye,

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NFL's eye on quarterback Frye
Willard grad a likely pick in first 3 rounds

By Jon Spencer
News Journal
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Akron quarterback Charlie Frye, a Willard High School graduate, takes questions from the media after working out for NFL teams April 1 at the University of Akron.

Frye works his way through passing drills for the NFL executives and scouts.

AKRON -- April Fool's Day was no joke to quarterback Charlie Frye or his guests.

At a time of the morning when many are wolfing down a Pop-Tart or McGriddle on the way to work, Frye was already huddling in a film room at the University of Akron with NFL scouts.

They were quizzing the 6-foot-4, 225-pound Willard native on blitz protections. As they watched film, they drew up three protections on a blackboard, erased them and had Frye re-draw them to measure his comprehension and retention.

He aced that test, which came as no surprise to former Akron quarterbacks coach Tom Stacy.

"Charlie lived in our office, looking at tape all the time," said Stacy, now the offensive coordinator at Ashland University. "All the awards he got and the success he'll have in the future is deserved because he worked his tail off."

Frye's reward comes Saturday, when he is expected to go in the first three rounds of the NFL Draft. He has a chance to become the highest Akron player ever selected, surpassing defensive end Jason Taylor, taken in the third round and 73rd overall by Miami in 1997.

One mock draft has Frye going in the first round to the Green Bay Packers, looking to groom a successor to Brett Favre. Draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. thinks Frye is more likely to be taken by the Pack with one of their two second-round picks, 51st and 58th overall.

The Browns are another team that has shown considerable interest. New general manager Phil Savage said he has seen Frye throw at least 20 times over his career, partly because Frye considered coming out after his junior year before he was deemed a middle-round pick.

Savage was the highest-ranked executive among the 11 NFL teams that sent representatives to Frye's April 1 "Pro Day" workout at Akron. Savage and Frye spent two hours together that afternoon, having lunch and going over game tape.

While national analysts see the Browns taking Utah quarterback Alex Smith with the third pick in the draft, some think Cleveland will pass on a quarterback in the first round and try to steal Frye with the second pick in the second round, 34th overall, or with another pick it might acquire in a trade for its No. 1.

Savage isn't tipping his hand. Frye isn't losing sleep over where he's headed.

"I know the New York Giants called (Steelers quarterback) Ben Roethlisberger the night before last year's draft and said they were going to draft him, and you know who they picked," Frye said, referring to quarterback Eli Manning. "You can't believe anything you hear. Whoever picks me is going to get a quarterback who does what the coaches ask."

According to former Akron head coach and current Ashland University boss Lee Owens, an NFL team will also be getting a guy who could be the face of that franchise for years to come.

"He's never going to big-time anyone," Owens said. "Dave and Sally Frye, if they're not the best parents, they're darn close to it. Charlie is special and that's because of the environment he was raised in."

Owens could talk for hours about the Charlie Frye who set 54 school records and ranks No. 11 on the NCAA's career total offense list (11,478 yards).

Instead, he prefers to talk about the Charlie Frye who recently popped in on Owens and Stacy at Ashland to reminisce about old times. He can also discuss the Charlie Frye who pinch-hit for Owens as speaker at the Hillsdale Middle School graduation so that Owens could attend his own daughter's graduation.

"Last year was going to be my last year at Akron, no matter what happened, because it would have been my 10th year and time to try something different," said Owens, who was fired after the 2003 season, even though the Zips were 7-4 and ranked among the Division I-A leaders in offense. "I thought the coaching staff and senior class, particularly Charlie, were building toward something special, but it wasn't meant to be.

"I made the best of it and Charlie did the same thing. What he accomplished last year, with a whole new offense and coaching staff, was phenomenal."

Browns player personnel director Bill Rees agrees.

"He did a great job, especially the second half of a season in a new offense," Rees said. "He dug his heels in and not only learned it, but mastered it."

Rees witnessed an interesting end to Frye's April 1 workout. With his shirt was already drenched with sweat from 30 minutes of throwing without a break, Frye launched a half-dozen 60-yard passes from a flat-footed position in a test of pure arm strength.

Again, Frye appeared to ace the exam.

"I've never seen him do that in a practice, but I have seen him throw like that under duress," Stacy said, laughing. "And he put the ball right on the money."

Like Owens, Stacy laments not being able to finish at Akron what started with signing Frye.

"When you recruit someone like that, you'd like to see it through," Stacy said. "I'm happy it has turned out the way it has. Most important was how it affected him.

"He's just a great young man, so down to earth. The thing I always liked is that he kept his mouth shut and worked his tail off. You have so many prima donna athletes these days. Any time he talked, he talked with a purpose."

Frye, named MVP of the Senior Bowl, has spent the last four months preparing for Saturday. He was tutored by 24-year NFL coaching veteran Rod Dowhower in Arizona and added 10 pounds of muscle with the guidance of Warren Anderson and Tim McClellan, trainers of Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.

While analysts agree Smith and Aaron Rodgers of Cal will be the first quarterbacks drafted, Frye's stock has gone through the roof of Akron's new indoor facility.

A few months ago, few outside Ohio had heard of him. Now some say he's a Brett Favre clone.

"I've watched (Favre) play a lot," Frye said. "He seems pretty fearless. That's the same demeanor I have. He leaves it all on the field and he loves to play the game. That's the same reason I play the game. If that's what you're trying to compare, then that's accurate."

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