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Does anyone have any doubt that Cribbs cannot do well at these new positions that he is being introduced too?
I think he can do well...
our faith in his ability to succeed in the future is irrelevant in contract discussions.
put it in context. if you went to work and they thought about adding new responsibilities because they think you can do it, do you ask for a raise right away? no, you work hard, you learn, you show some measurable amount of success, so you have a case for a raise.
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As most people know from my previous stances on various issues I'm usually in the corner with the players and this case is no exception.
I'm almost always on the side of the FO but Cribbs is a clear cut exception.
Treat your players fairly or it will inevitibly bite you in the ass.
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As most people know from my previous stances on various issues I'm usually in the corner with the players and this case is no exception.
I'm almost always on the side of the FO but Cribbs is a clear cut exception.
Treat your players fairly or it will inevitibly bite you in the ass.
Pay Cribbs.
We have treated Cribbs fairly, it's not our fault the Bears are a bunch of morons.
Cribbs is being paid what he should be paid.
you had a good run Hank.
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I think you need to look at what we paid Ken Dorsey and compare it to Cribbs just to realize what you're saying.
Unless you think they are similar talents.
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I think you need to look at what we paid Ken Dorsey and compare it to Cribbs just to realize what you're saying.
Unless you think they are similar talents.
Travis Daniels and Terry Cousin got more from the Browns. Hank Poteat will get more from the Browns, as well. Are any of those guys more valuable to our team's success? Hardly. They're all detrimental at best. We paid Travis Daniels just under a million bucks to play in seven games and record a whopping 5 tackles. Nick Sorensen and Shantee Orr got as much or more money last year. Were they as valuable?
That big long article comparing Cribbs to Hester left out a couple things, notably the fact that the season prior to Hester holding out, he had a whole 20 catches for 299 yards, half as many KO return yards as Cribbs (1800 to 900, approximately) at 9 yards less per attempt, -10 yards rushing on 7 attempts (compared to Cribbs' 61 on 9), and just two yards more per punt return on 12 more attempts for a total of 240 more yards total. He also had NO tackles, compared to the 20+ that Josh had on special teams. That's if you want to compare performances. Then there's the fact that he's a wide receiver because of his pay, not vice versa, and the fact that he was the #1 receiver by default, because their receiving corps was (and still is) lousy. Further, consider that Hester was drafted in the 2nd round as a DB, whereas Cribbs was a UDFA. I think that's the valid comparison to make, personally, but that's JMHO.
Regarding his agent situation, I'm guessing the fact that he was an UDFA put him in not the best position to get a top-flight agent, and that as soon as he could afford a better one he did just that.
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Just clicking. I was all for Cribbs getting a new deal. And I think he deserves it as well. But I think I may have changed my mind. I "heard on the radio" this morning, that Cribbs claims he has telephone records where he was promised this and that.  OK . Is this not childish? More he said she said ...?  Sonds an awful lot like the same conversation we were having last year about a former players staph infection and non hospital visit. Aren't you at all tired of the players crying like spoiled chldren everytime someone does not stroke their ego correctly or in a timely manner? And are you not all even more sick of the players who are supposed to be "stars", taking everything to the media to air out grievances? (POOR FORM MR CRIBBS!!)  Rather than waiting until there is a good time to deal with it in private behind closed doors like a professional role model should? I think the fan favorite does not give a rat's ass about the fans. And soon the worm will turn. But I hope not.   
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Thanks for the read. Pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
Yup. Glad someone else besides me has some sense.
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As most people know from my previous stances on various issues I'm usually in the corner with the players and this case is no exception.
I'm almost always on the side of the FO but Cribbs is a clear cut exception.
Treat your players fairly or it will inevitibly bite you in the ass.
Pay Cribbs.
$40 million?????? Are you crazy?
If someone else besides Josh, his agent and his wife thinks he really is worth a 4 year $40 million contract, they need to get back on their meds. 
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OK . Is this not childish? More he said she said ...?
Not if the Browns put it on their website that Lerner never made any such promises. This is just a rebuttal.
Besides, what the hell are you guys worried about? The dough isn't coming out of our pockets. It's salary cap money from the TV contracts. You won't feel a thing.
Pay the guy and stop acting and looking like Mike Brown, the "dowager" owner of the Bengals. Sheesh....... 
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Bye bye Josh. - Dude's a special teamer. He is getting paid fairly for what he does. If he shows us some stuff on offense and defense this year and then we'll see.
If he wants to a new deal or a trade now, then trade him. -We won't get more than a third rounder for him.
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Since none of the money has anything to do with the fans.Take it behind closed doors "when the time is acceptable" and duke it out like men.  Not in front of us. All I want to see is a good football team on the field. Not Entertianment Tonight Why do you care that this enldess soap opera ... peeves some people to no end year in and year out since the return? Sheesh.....
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Does anyone have any doubt that Cribbs cannot do well at these new positions that he is being introduced too?
I think he can do well...
our faith in his ability to succeed in the future is irrelevant in contract discussions.
put it in context. if you went to work and they thought about adding new responsibilities because they think you can do it, do you ask for a raise right away? no, you work hard, you learn, you show some measurable amount of success, so you have a case for a raise.
Every thread I post.. You respond.. Do we have a problem? Just let me know... lol...
And to "put into context"... have you ever heard of a job offer? Promotion? Where your boss pays you more because they promote you to management for instance?
I don't take the promotion, and then 5 weeks later get a raise... I get the raise as soon as the offer is accepted...
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lol, i noticed the same thing but it just so happened that it was your post that i last read when i came on to post, so i replied to yours. no disrespect or problem at all. a good example is even this post, lol. you're right about the promotion and and the raise that comes with it. what happens before that promotion though? you prove that you can handle the upcoming responsibilites because you were given new opportunites to prove yourself and after you do, you get the promotion. that is why this situation isn't analogous to to a promotion. cribbs is given the opportunity to prove that he can handle upcoming responsibilities. when he proves it, then he'll get his promotion and raise. for job offers though, it's inherent that when you interview for a new job, it's always a step up from your last job, where you'd get paid more for doing essentially the same work or you are interviewing for a promotion, saying why you'd be well-suited for the position. so that's more analogous to free agency 
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As most people know from my previous stances on various issues I'm usually in the corner with the players and this case is no exception.
I'm almost always on the side of the FO but Cribbs is a clear cut exception.
Treat your players fairly or it will inevitibly bite you in the ass.
Pay Cribbs.
$40 million?????? Are you crazy?
If someone else besides Josh, his agent and his wife thinks he really is worth a 4 year $40 million contract, they need to get back on their meds.
I'm not even hinting at $10 million a year. I'm not overly familiar with how much of the Hester contract is guaranteed and how much is fluff. Wasn't Shaffer's contract $77 Million or something? He never saw half than.
Cribbs however, is getting roughly $650,000 and that is very simply less than fair. We can throw all the back loaded numbers in the world out there but in the end he's underpaid.
If we adjusted him to a $2.5M - $3M number and he's still unhappy then fine - we tried. But right now the Browns are in the wrong and it only serves to undermine the organization in the long run.
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you're right. hester's only had about $15 million guaranteed.
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Give him a 5-year extension/ contract..
Year 1 : 3 Mil
Year 2 : 4 Mil
Year 3 : 5 Mil
Year 4 : 6 Mil
Year 5 : 7 Mil
And put some incentives in there so that if he does well.. He gets paid for doing well...
I think those 5 years are like 25 Mil...
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"Cribbs however, is getting roughly $650,000 and that is very simply less than fair."
He's getting over a Million - with his workout bonus and accelerators.
around 400-450 grand more than what is listed as his Base Salary. Its an agents ploy to keep throwing out the Base Salary, Base Salary. He got the 2 mil signing bonus and is making over a Mil per season. Point blank.
He's making well more than DQ (almost double) who is in his last season of his contract and quite frankly that is more of a priority to M/K - he was one of two Untouchables.
JMHO - stuff happens the guys with a role in mind for him when the promise was made are gone. The new guys need to experience him within the new roles.
He isn't going to make squat without Position Player impact somewhere. I hate agents almost all are Scum 
Randy has never, never got personally involved with a player - interceding the chain of command. I believe Cribbs when he says that Randy called him after the season and thanked him for being a good soldier and he will not be forgotten.
Nice words but what exactly does that mean. Why does this have to be done on Cribbs' Agent time frame. Who says any promise was made. The promise was so general.
And I believe Cribbs when he said he spoke with M/K and said after the draft it would get their attention. Ok...these guys haven't had time to go to bathroom yet since the draft.
They might want to see exactly what role Cribbs would take.
I still think if they push to hard. He really is not irreplaceable - he's an asset but he can be easily forgotten. If he holds out you don't know who will step up and take his spot. Lets hope he's Wally Pipp.
Still disgusted - cause again If I'm the man in charge I feel almost even if I was about to sit down and bang out a deal that I cannot now cause it would set a precedent of a demands. I almost have to play hardball as a matter of principle.
And if push comes to shove. Then I have to make an example of Cribbs.
JMHO
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Well you weren't specific. When you say pay him, it sounds as though you want him paid what he wants, which is more than an absurd amount. He shouldn't even get half of that.
I won't argue that he could have outplayed his original contract. But increasing it anywhere near what he's asking is asinine. A little increase with a signing bonus and acclerators would be fine.
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Article Browns’ Cribbs wants new deal By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer 27 minutes ago CLEVELAND (AP)—Browns wide receiver and return specialist Josh Cribbs is not attending Cleveland’s voluntary minicamp as he tries to get the team to renegotiate his contract. Cribbs, who has four years remaining on a six-year, $6.7 million contract he signed in 2006, wants a new deal and his agent, J.R. Rickert, said the club’s previous management team made promises to renegotiate with the former Pro Bowler. Rickert said he has had some dialogue with the team, but said talks “have not been meaningful.” “I don’t think we’re being unreasonable at all,” Rickert said in a phone interview. “All we are asking is to have meaningful talks. Anything would be acceptable to Josh other than, ‘You are playing with your current deal.”’ Cribbs is scheduled to make $620,000, $635,000, $650,000 and $790,000 over the next four years. Rickert said members of the Browns’ organization made previous assurances to Cribbs that his contract would be reworked. “Some of them are still here, some are not,” he said. “They told him his contract would be addressed.” The Browns said in a statement that “no one from the current Browns organization, including owner Randy Lerner, has ever made any promises to Josh Cribbs with regard to his contract status.” Rickert said Cribbs is not demanding to be traded and has not told the Browns to use Devin Hester’s(notes) four-year, $40 million extension with $15 million guaranteed as a template for talks. “Josh is not saying, ‘Give me a deal or else,”’ Rickert said. Browns coach Eric Mangini is expected to comment on Cribbs’ situation on Thursday, the final day of the minicamp and the only one open to media. Mangini has discussed the possibility of using Cribbs on defense next season.
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Randy has never, never got personally involved with a player - interceding the chain of command. I believe Cribbs when he says that Randy called him after the season and thanked him for being a good soldier and he will not be forgotten.
Nice words but what exactly does that mean. Why does this have to be done on Cribbs' Agent time frame. Who says any promise was made. The promise was so general.
.....JMHO
This is one of my pet peeves and you're far from the only one who does it from time to time.
Here you make a statement "Randy has never, never got personally involved with a player". You present it as a fact when you have no such knowledge. At best it's a hypothesis. I would doubt that a Front Office employee could assert this with any certitude let alone a fan. Only Randy Lerner himself would know this for sure.
Then you follow up this statement with "Randy called him after the season and thanked him for being a good soldier and he will not be forgotten."
I have not seen this quote attributable to Cribbs. Please provide a reference if this is a quote. 
Then you follow that up with "The promise was so general." What???
So you take a hypothesis, then a quote that was pulled from thin air, then made a conclusion based on a conversation that has not been fully reported and one you weren't privvy to.
Just rubs me the wrong way unless you are putting in the appropriate disclaimers.
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It's pretty sad to me to see how Browns fans turn on our best players.
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Cribbs made a SIZEABLE blunder signing that contract that his agent and Phil Savage put together. I remember Savage almost chuckling about it when he announced it during a press conference.
So would you suggest that because he fired a bum of an agent that he and his NEW representitives get a do-over?
I think he's stuck with his contract for at least another year. That's the price for agreeing to a long-term deal. There are no do-overs just because a player signed a bad deal.
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Now he's in the prime of his career and he ideally would be maximizing his income in these next 3-5 years.
Then he'll be just fine by waiting another year or two to ask for a new deal
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Do I believe that Lerner promised to take care of him? I do.
Based on what? Your lack of approval as it pertains to his ownership of the team?
Let's be honest here: You have absolutely nothing to base your belief on. Nada, zero, zilch. In essence, you have a "gut feeling" and we know where that joke always ends around here.
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Unfortunately we're stuck with Lerner, an absentee owner who was willed the franchise, who seems to care far more about Aston Villa
Blah blah...so on and so forth.
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Ultimately I hope we redo Cribbs contract in a fair manner.
Fair isn't demanding a trade or holding out a couple of years into a six-year deal, so if you want fair, the only REAL fair thing to do here is for Cribbs to suck it up, admit he signed a bad deal, play another year or two under the deal that has his JOHN HANCOCK ON IT, THEN ask for a new one if he's deserving.
He blew it, not the Browns. There are no mulligans in football (you'd know something about mulligans, right Hel? ).
Yeah, I'm needlin' ya a bit man, only because I tend to side with the league and the owners over the players. In this perticular case, Cribbs is trying his damnedest to try and wiggle out of a bad deal he agreed to.
Too bad for him. The Browns don't owe him anything at this point.
If Cribbs were something special at anything other than.......you know........SPECIAL TEAMS.........he'd have a leg to stand on here. But he took the safe, long-term money. Now he's regretting it. Sorry, that's the gamble he took, and this is the result.
If Cribbs can become a contributor on defense (he can't) or suddenly show that he can figure it out as a receiver (he hasn't these past few years) then he'll deserve a rebuilt deal. As it stands now, yeah, he's a little underpaid, but because he's only a kick-return man/cover guy, he doesn't deserve 3 million per year. He just doesn't.
On a side note, I hope people don't take his agents rhetoric about Hester's contract being the "starting point." It's his job to start at the sky and work down, while it's the Browns' job to start at the bottom of the ocean and work their way up. That's about as meaningless in the big-picture as his quote about having phone records to prove that Lerner promised him a raise (even if it's not nearly as assinine ).
Side note: I've seen some comments saying he'll get traded. Uh......no he won't. He's only making half-a-million per year and we've got options in the return game. He has ZERO leverage. We'll just sit on him until he caves, because he hasn't earned enough money to sit out several seasons.
Cribbs and his agent think they know what they are doing. They don't.
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It's pretty sad to me to see how Browns fans turn on our best players.
Were not the ones skipping camp.....Actually, were the ones who rooted for the team when there wasnt any team.
We dont turn on players, sometimes we callem as we see'em, but usually the only time we turn on a player is after were kicked in the ribs bye them only to turn and get kicked in the other side.
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OK . Is this not childish? More he said she said ...?
Not if the Browns put it on their website that Lerner never made any such promises. This is just a rebuttal.
Besides, what the hell are you guys worried about? The dough isn't coming out of our pockets. It's salary cap money from the TV contracts. You won't feel a thing.
Pay the guy and stop acting and looking like Mike Brown, the "dowager" owner of the Bengals. Sheesh.......
Otto, in a sense the money is coming out of our pockets. Game ticket prices can always be lower. It must be really expenssive to attend a game?
TV contract raises the prices of cable and dish billing for everyone whether you watch NFL or not. Right?
Besides, Cribbs is already a multi-millionaire and will get even more wealthy if he plays out the remainder of his contract which, IMO, is fair or at least close to fair.
Also, someone allegedly promised to look at the contract after the draft. It isn't even June yet and the Cribbs camp is howling. Why so impatient????
Sure Cribbs is very good, but Steptoe looked good at times returning kicks and he can play receiver too.
Graveyards are filled with irreplaceable people Josh......
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Were not the ones skipping camp.....Actually, were the ones who rooted for the team when there wasnt any team.
We dont turn on players, sometimes we callem as we see'em, but usually the only time we turn on a player is after were kicked in the ribs bye them only to turn and get kicked in the other side.
our "problem" is that we have to live and work in the real world where the boss calls the shots and we are not used to having our asses kissed since we were kids.
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....but Steptoe looked good at times returning kicks and he can play receiver too.
Graveyards are filled with irreplaceable people Josh......
You are joking right? No.. Seriously... This is sarcasm?? b/c Steptoe does not have ONE thing on Josh Cribbs...
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Graveyards are filled with irreplaceable people Josh......
You are joking right? No.. Seriously... This is sarcasm?? b/c Steptoe does not have ONE thing on Josh Cribbs...
Haven't you heard? Every team has a player like Cribbs The Browns have 52
Steptoe and Harrison are every bit Cribbs equal. That's why EVERY team we played kicked the ball away from Cribbs Because a 60 yard return is meaningless
An elite KR, kick coverage monster, and versitile player isn't worth 3rd string QB money.
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I FORGOT Josh signed a new contract so recently .... and that changes everything .. I thought he was still under his rookie contract ..
he is really being a bonehead here .. get in .. learn what u need to ... have a great year .. PROVE YOUR WORTH ... then ask for the new contract ...
whats this guy wanna do ... re-negotiate every other year???? ...
PROVE your worth it ... I usually have no probs with players playing hardball .. I usually understand both sides ... but not on this one .. hes just being DUMB and HURTING HIMSELF ...
to contribute on D or be as affective as possible at the Wild Cat position .. he needs to LEARN them and get the REPS ... and now is the time to lay the foundation for when TC gets here ... this way hes not learning the basics then and he has a foundation to build from ..
thi makes no sense what so ever to me .. I thought he was still under his rookie contract ...
I love when his agent says .. "Josh is not "threatening" the team .. well whats not showing up doing .. a sign of good faith?? .. *L* ..... if all hes doing is not showing up here .. they only one hes hurting is HIMSELF ..
and does anyone else find it ironic .. the first guy to go in and talk to Jeannie and pimp him publically is the first real problem child .. *L* ..
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1. Show me where Randy has been involved as a Contract negotiator anywhere! Show me...your premise is absurd that - Who knows? If he did we would have heard about it.
Show you the quote...actually it was repeated by his agent right above you.
“They told him his contract would be addressed.”
Actually that was the quote by Cribbs, My Bad for not getting it word for word but still the same. Cribbs said that Randy called him on the (Bus Ride???) back from the Steeler game and thanked him for being a "GOOD SOLDIER" and that his "CONTRACT WILL BE ADDRESSED" - Well not by Randy as he doesn't ADDRESS contracts - he leaves that up to his FOOTBALL PEOPLE!
And can you get a more GENERAL STATEMENT than that??? What if M/K address it and think he doesn't deserve a new contract "THIS YEAR" and want to see him progress into some "NEW ROLES" and then come to a new aggreement? That still complies with RANDY'S PROMISE.
As for providing you with a link...look I'm not going to throw Cheerios in the bowl for you and teach you how to do your stuff! My INFO has been from articles on this board...you do your own search - I'm not going to do your work for you...Ignorance don't make you right, just ignorant
"So you take a hypothesis, then a quote that was pulled from thin air, then made a conclusion based on a conversation that has not been fully reported and one you weren't privvy to.
Just rubs me the wrong way unless you are putting in the appropriate disclaimers."
Rubs you the wrong way??? Show me one thing out of context...you are the one making stuff up to suit you. Show me one thing I miss reported in my OPINION.
And why do I have to be under standards never asked by any poster before...that I have to put DISCLAIMERS to my opinion. Unlike you I back it with - HOW I CAME TO THOSE CONCLUSIONS...just cause you want to be See no Common Sense and Hear no Common Sense, don't blame me.
Do you HAVE to agree with me? No Way...but don't go calling my opinion crud with absolutely nothing but Mumbo Jumbo backing it - you prove me wrong with quotes and whatever not making up stuff!!! I didn't make up anything. If I was wrong...PROVE IT. Then call me on my credibility.
But in stead I see a poster who disagrees with my opinion greatly and just stands there and J'Accuses that I have none like that makes it so 
Rubs you the wrong way...sure I shot your opinion pretty much out of the water and rather debate me...attack my credibility. Come on you're better than that. Oh and stop Rubbing yourself - you'll go blind
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Shaffer signed for $35 million over 7-years. There really is no comparison here.
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Graveyards are filled with irreplaceable people Josh......
You are joking right? No.. Seriously... This is sarcasm?? b/c Steptoe does not have ONE thing on Josh Cribbs...
Haven't you heard? Every team has a player like Cribbs The Browns have 52
Steptoe and Harrison are every bit Cribbs equal. That's why EVERY team we played kicked the ball away from Cribbs Because a 60 yard return is meaningless
An elite KR, kick coverage monster, and versitile player isn't worth 3rd string QB money.
I swear if Bellicheck were our coach today our fans would still run him out of town.
Cribbs averages 6 yards more per KR than Steptoe and Steptoe can actually be a WR too. Someone else can replace Cribbs as a punt return defender as well. Steptoe or someone else may be as good or better a PR than Cribbs??
I'm not saying that Cribbs isn't very good, just replaceable, especially if he gets his panties in a wad. We will be a better team with Cribbs but the reality is that Cribbs prolly only breaks about 3 or 4 really long returns a season. Someone else can prolly do that too.
Cribbs and Co. as well as his avid supporters need to be patient. Maybe the FO will come through after all.
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I FORGOT Josh signed a new contract so recently .... and that changes everything .. I thought he was still under his rookie contract ..
I had to chuckle a bit...you're usually on top of those things..me..I don't support what he's doing one bit..no one forced him to do that contract..
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Cribbs Makes a Showing Fred Greetham theOBR.com May 21, 2009 Eric Mangini surprised reporters this morning with the news that Josh Cribbs attending today's team meeting. BEREA - Eric Mangini said prior to the final practice of the three day ‘voluntary’ minicamp that WR/KR/DB Josh Cribbs was indeed, in Berea on Thursday for a full team meeting. Mangini was asked if he has had any contact with Cribbs this week. “I’ve talked with Josh,” he said. “I talked with him this morning (Thursday) and spent some time with him this morning. I look forward to him being out there.” Mangini met with the media prior to practice and was asked if Cribbs would be a participant at practice. “He was here this morning in the (full) squad meeting,” he said. “But, I’m not sure if he’ll be taking part.” Mangini confirmed that Cribbs hadn’t been a participant in the previous two days events. “This was the first time he was here,” he said. “This is a voluntary camp, but there is ton of information going out.” Cribbs issued a statement that was posted on the OBR website about his position on getting a new contract. Mangini declined to talk about any talks regarding a new contract with Cribbs. “We don’t talk about contract situations in general,” Mangini said. http://cle.scout.com/2/866601.html
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I'm not swaying one bit..Cribbs signed that contract..now he wants a new deal..dude play ball , you'll be taken care of..
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Well, that says something about Cribbs for showing up, even if just for a meeting.
But, in the end, he is hurting himself more than the team is hurting without him. All he has to do is show up, show he can take on multiple positions, then he has such a better argument for a different contract.
But until he proves he can play those other positions, he's going to get paid like a ST guy.
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I don't even know why he want to re-do it now .... or how he wants it re-done ... i mean .. how do u re-do it .. as a STer .. then what if he plays lights out on D or as a wildcard ... then we re-do it again next year?? ..
he should just say ... OK ... lets leave it alone BUT if this year I play and earn more on either O or D and prove I'm more than a ST guy ... then I need u to give me your word you'll re-do it ..
I'm not even sure what hes looking for here ...
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Looks like he wants to be traded... Cribbs releases statement on situationComment Email Print Share By John Clayton ESPN.com Archive Cleveland Browns wide receiver Joshua Cribbs, upset that the new management team hasn't initiated talks to re-do his contract, has asked to be traded. Cribbs Not only did Cribbs inform the team of his request, but he issued a lengthy statement to notify Browns fans of his intentions as well. "I humbly and respectfully come to Browns fans and the Browns letting all know that I have given my all to this team, on and off the field for 4 complete years selflessly without regard to myself and my own family." Cribbs' statement read. "Contracts are one-sided in favor of the team, yet we as players are told to honor our contracts without the team honoring them. We are not doctors and lawyers, we don't get paid for 25 years of work. If we are lucky, we get 10 years at best to make all the money we can to last the rest of our life." Cribbs decided this week not to attend the team's offseason training sessions while he waits for talks to start. The Browns informed him this week that they do not plan to change his contract. "This is not personal, but I have to be a man and take care of my family for not just a year or two, but for as long as I am walking this earth," Cribbs' statement continued. "I want nothing more but to wear the Browns' logo on my chest until my career has come to an end, and I am deeply disappointed that the team I put my hard work, blood, sweat and tears in will just write me off as though I am collateral damage." A 2007 Pro Bowl selection, Cribbs has developed into one of the most versatile players in the NFL. He averaged 1,945 all-purpose yards in the past three seasons. One of the game's most dangerous return specialists, Cribbs is also a threat as a receiver and a running back. Browns coach Eric Mangini has said he plans to use Cribbs at cornerback for around 18 plays a game. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4193301
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He just may have burned some bridges.
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I wonder what him and Jeannie talked about today .. *L* ..
talk about how not to handle a situation ... this is it ...
we NEED this guy ... but hes being a DOLT about it ... hell with him ..
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Josh, ummm you could do what the rest of us common folks do till we are 70. Find another career after your first one ends, and keep working and living within your means. 
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