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66-Year-Old to Be Oldest British Woman to Give Birth
She's a 66-year-old successful career woman about to become a first-time mom. Elizabeth Adeney, now eight months pregnant, will be one of the oldest new mothers in the world. When Elizabeth Adeney Turns 85, Her Child Will Still Be a Teenager She's a 66-year-old successful career woman about to become a first-time mom. Elizabeth Adeney, now 8 months pregnant, will be one of the oldest mothers in the world.
Chatter on the Internet ranges from wonder at the miracle to harsh criticism, with one post calling Adeney's decision to have in vitro fertilization an example of "breathtaking selfishness." When she's 85 years old, her child will still be a teenager.
But Adeney, who lives near Lidgate, Suffolk, in southeastern England, reportedly said that to be a mother, all that matters is how old you feel on the inside. And she claimed she is young and fit and feels like she is 39 years old.
Most IVF clinics in Britain (and the United States) don't offer treatment to women older than 50, so Adeney flew to Ukraine, where there is no age limit on IVF, becoming one of the so-called "fertility tourists."
Dr. Jamie Grifo at the New York University Fertility Center told ABC News that although "pregnancy has risks associated with it at any age … the older the woman, the greater the risks."
Older women who get pregnant could have trouble with "high blood pressure, which can complicate placental development. They can develop diabetes in pregnancy, which has to be monitored. Preterm labor is an issue in the older patient and of course, Caesarian delivery and the associated surgical risks."
But, Grifo added, these risks are "very treatable, so as long as an older woman has a healthy heart, their outcome for pregnancy is very good."
In 2004 New Yorker Aleta St. James became the oldest American woman to give birth when she had twins. She was nearly 57. A year later, a 66 year-old Romanian woman became the world's oldest mom. Then, in 2006, Carmela Bousada of Spain, who was nearly 67, took the title.
And last year, Omkari Panwar from India stole her crown. Desperate for a male heir, she underwent IVF at age 70. She got her wish when she gave birth to twins, one of them a boy.
According to Grifo, "There haven't been that many women over the age of 50 who have attempted pregnancy and now that the technology exists more are doing so."
But should they be allowed to? Grifo told ABC News that "We don't tell a 14-year-old unmarried woman she's not allowed to have a child. Why should we tell a 66-year-old woman who is healthy and wants to have a baby that she can't. Who's to say?"
Older Mothers 'Not a Common Problem'
Adeney said what she's doing is between her, her baby and no one else.
"The good news is," Grifo said, "it's not a common problem … in the world there's probably only five women over the age of 55 who have done this. I don't think this needs to be a great debate among regulators."
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"The good news is," Grifo said, "it's not a common problem …
I don't think it's a problem at all. Stupid on the woman's part...perhaps, but why is that a problem? 
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I don't think it's a problem at all. Stupid on the woman's part...perhaps, but why is that a problem?
It's a problem because, and I don't care how young this woman feels, there is a good chance that this child will lose its mom before the age of 15... Yes that happens to other kids and they get on with their lives... but to invite it this way seems a bit selfish... This child could likely have a mom to take care of in a nursing home when its 10 years old.... Who is going to help her/him? Dad? No dad. Grandparents? No, they are already 90 or dead. Mom's friends? No, they'll be in the nursing home with her....... Sorry, seems pretty darn selfish to me.
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Okay...at what age do you cut it off and say it's not selfish to have children? 30? 35? Was David Letterman too old to be a Dad when Harry was born?
Regarding this woman, I'm sure she's thought this through.
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It's extremely selfish. 
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Okay...at what age do you cut it off and say it's not selfish to have children? 30? 35? Was David Letterman too old to be a Dad when Harry was born?
I have no magic age.. but to become a single mom at 66 is outside the range...
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Right.. because the news is just full of people making logical, rational family choices with everybodys best interests at heart...... 
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I didn't say it was a logical decision....I said I'm sure she thought it through.
We can think it's a horrible thing to do to a child all we like, but it still doesn't make her wrong.
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Grifo told ABC News that "We don't tell a 14-year-old unmarried woman she's not allowed to have a child. Why should we tell a 66-year-old woman who is healthy and wants to have a baby that she can't. Who's to say?"
I understand people having misgivings about it , but I'd say the above is correct.
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So what makes her any different than all the rest of the illogical selfish people who give birth? One could argue that everyone has selfish reasons for giving birth.
I think these women are crazy, but I think a lot of people who have had children are wacky. She's just one in a long line.....
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I think these women are crazy, but I think a lot of people who have had children are wacky. She's just one in a long line.....
Still doesn't it mean it's in the best interest of the child. It's pretty much the same as those celebrities that run out and have a kid, and then just throw them in day care for 12 hours a day. Kids want to have parents ... not be treated like a some sort of pet puppy because their parent(s) though it would be a cool thing to have a little kid running around the house whenever they felt like it.
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My first thought when I read this article was the risk of having the baby being born with Downs Syndrome, which increases as a woman ages.
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They are looking more recently at the combination of the older man and woman when having babies at older ages. People getting invitro etc., may not have quite the same risk. Dad's Age Raises Down Syndrome Risk, Too Combined Effect of Older Mothers and Fathers Increases Baby's Risk By Jennifer Warner Older fathers may contribute just as much as older mothers to the dramatic increase in Down syndrome risk faced by babies born to older couples. A new study found that older fathers were responsible for up to 50% of the rise in Down syndrome risk when the mother was also over 40. Researchers say the number of births to parents over age 35 has more than doubled in the last 20 years and this has raised questions about the role of paternal age in the risk of genetic abnormalities and birth defects. Previous studies have shown that the risk of a woman having a baby with Down syndrome rises dramatically after she reaches 35. Although this effect of maternal age on Down syndrome risk is well known, researchers say the influence of the father's age on Down syndrome has not yet been defined. Some studies have found no relationship, while other, smaller studies have suggested that older fathers may raise the risk of Down syndrome. But researchers say this study, published in The Journal of Urology, is the largest of its kind and looked at 3,429 Down syndrome cases reported to the New York State Department of Health from 1983 to 1997. Their findings suggest that the increase in the number of babies with the genetic abnormality born to women over 35 may be the result of a combined effect of both advanced maternal and paternal ages. Older Fathers Face More Risks The study showed that the percentage of births to women over 35 grew from 8% of all births in 1983 to 17% in 1997, and the greatest change during this period was the number of births to mothers and fathers over 40 years old, which rose by 178% and 73%, respectively. Researchers found that the rate of Down syndrome among parents over 40 was 60 per 10,000 births, which is six times higher than the rate found among couples under 35 years old. Older fathers over 40 had twice the rate of Down syndrome births compared with men 24 years old and younger when they had children with women over 35. "Paternal age has an effect on Down syndrome but only in mothers 35 years old and older," write researcher Harry Fisch, MD, of the department of urology at Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center in New York City, and colleagues. "In younger women, in whom age was not a risk factor for Down syndrome, there was no paternal effect." Among older mothers over 40, researchers found that an increase of 50% in Down syndrome risk was attributable to the advanced age of the father. In fact, researchers suggest that there is only a modest increase in Down syndrome risk for women 35-39 compared with women 30-35 years old, but the dramatic increase in Down syndrome births among women 35 to 39 years old is largely due to the influence of older fathers because older women tend to make babies with older men. Although more research is needed to confirm these findings, researchers say the study shows that the father's age should not be ignored in family planning. "Young couples preparing for family planning must be aware that advanced parental age may not only result in increasing difficulties with fertility for the parents but that children born to older parents may be at higher risk for genetic abnormalities," conclude the authors. http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20030701/dad-age-down-syndrome
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They are actually beginning to think that Downs Syndrome can happen equally from the mans age. No idea if that holds any merit, but it makes sense when you look at the number of older women having children using sperm from younger men...and having perfectly healthy babies. http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20070830-000004.html First page, last paragraph mentions it.
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Yeah, I could see where that would be true. One has to wonder though, given this womans age, if she would be able to carry the baby to term.
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Oh, I agree that she will present plenty of her own pregnancy/birthing issues. For the child's sake, I hope she comes through without a glitch. Of course, she is already in her eighth month. I'm sure they would know if something was terribly wrong.
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They are looking more recently at the combination of the older man and woman when having babies at older ages. People getting invitro etc., may not have quite the same risk.
Dad's Age Raises Down Syndrome Risk, Too Combined Effect of Older Mothers and Fathers Increases Baby's Risk
By Jennifer Warner
Older fathers may contribute just as much as older mothers to the dramatic increase in Down syndrome risk faced by babies born to older couples. A new study found that older fathers were responsible for up to 50% of the rise in Down syndrome risk when the mother was also over 40.
Researchers say the number of births to parents over age 35 has more than doubled in the last 20 years and this has raised questions about the role of paternal age in the risk of genetic abnormalities and birth defects.
Previous studies have shown that the risk of a woman having a baby with Down syndrome rises dramatically after she reaches 35. Although this effect of maternal age on Down syndrome risk is well known, researchers say the influence of the father's age on Down syndrome has not yet been defined. Some studies have found no relationship, while other, smaller studies have suggested that older fathers may raise the risk of Down syndrome.
But researchers say this study, published in The Journal of Urology, is the largest of its kind and looked at 3,429 Down syndrome cases reported to the New York State Department of Health from 1983 to 1997. Their findings suggest that the increase in the number of babies with the genetic abnormality born to women over 35 may be the result of a combined effect of both advanced maternal and paternal ages.
Older Fathers Face More Risks The study showed that the percentage of births to women over 35 grew from 8% of all births in 1983 to 17% in 1997, and the greatest change during this period was the number of births to mothers and fathers over 40 years old, which rose by 178% and 73%, respectively.
Researchers found that the rate of Down syndrome among parents over 40 was 60 per 10,000 births, which is six times higher than the rate found among couples under 35 years old. Older fathers over 40 had twice the rate of Down syndrome births compared with men 24 years old and younger when they had children with women over 35.
"Paternal age has an effect on Down syndrome but only in mothers 35 years old and older," write researcher Harry Fisch, MD, of the department of urology at Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center in New York City, and colleagues. "In younger women, in whom age was not a risk factor for Down syndrome, there was no paternal effect."
Among older mothers over 40, researchers found that an increase of 50% in Down syndrome risk was attributable to the advanced age of the father.
In fact, researchers suggest that there is only a modest increase in Down syndrome risk for women 35-39 compared with women 30-35 years old, but the dramatic increase in Down syndrome births among women 35 to 39 years old is largely due to the influence of older fathers because older women tend to make babies with older men.
Although more research is needed to confirm these findings, researchers say the study shows that the father's age should not be ignored in family planning.
"Young couples preparing for family planning must be aware that advanced parental age may not only result in increasing difficulties with fertility for the parents but that children born to older parents may be at higher risk for genetic abnormalities," conclude the authors.
http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20030701/dad-age-down-syndrome
Good article.....it is natures way of saying you shouldn't have kids at an advanced age.
In the normal course of things, couples age together.
When nature dries you up, it is the point you are to old.
Since men and women tend to stay and age together, you don't have to worry about these increased risks.
That aside, I think this woman is selfish and simply wanting a indentured servant to look after her in her senile years.
Maybe I need to get busy so I have someone to cut the grass the next 20 years..

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Just pay the neighborhood kid, it's easier, and cheaper. 
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Oh these whacky kids now-a-days. What will they think of next 
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Mom was 66 when she gave birth to you, it's in her screen name. 
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We can think it's a horrible thing to do to a child all we like, but it still doesn't make her wrong.
It most certainly could be wrong... I don't know this womans situation at all, but if she gives birth and then dies at the ripe old age of 75 (which isn't exactly unheard of) then she leaves behind a parentless 9 year old child.... when that potential outcome was predictable.
When you are betting against overwhelming odds (that she will be healthy and active enough to raise a child until she's 84) and what you are gambling with is the life of a child... then it's wrong.
Now if Jules would like to discuss the other stupid illogical reason people have children or the situations they bring children into then we can... those, however, don't make this particular sitation any more right.
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Yep and no matter how many times we got out the hose and watered down the front porch steps in the winter, left our marbles on the stairs, or blew out the pilot light on the stove, she is still kicking 
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No thats just how old i felt, i was actually quite young at the time. 
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Yep and even at my advanced age i can still outsmart you two. 
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Maybe it was GM that was 66 when you had him. 
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You were a little too young weren't you? Like -10 years. 
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