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Just got my 1st. sommons, was wanting to know what to expect, and if there is a way out of it?...In a way I want to do it , then on the other hand im not sure....any suggestion's?
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One of my dad's friends once told me "How would you like to be judged by a group of people not smart enough to get out of jury duty."  I got out of it two times by writing a letter that it would be a huge financial burden on me since I am a self employed one man show - which is by no means untrue. I think, if I had the time and the money, it would actually be kind of fun to sit on a jury or two. Or, as George Carlin said to get out of jury duty "Tell them that you can spot a guilty person just like that!"
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I got one ..... called and told them that it would present an incredible financial hardship both to my employer and to myself. I had to get a letter from my immediate boss, and had to write one myself ....... and then I was a free man once again.  The summons should give you the acceptable criteria for being excused.
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not sure what I want to do yet, but I need to figure it out soon
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Just think if everyone got out of jury duty at the same time...
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I never really inderstood why people try to get out of jury duty, besides being your civic duty, I always thought it would be cool to experience it once. I think to see the process. of course our contract gauruntees our pay while we are on jury duty so it would be like being on vacation, I would want to stretch it out as long as possible  KING
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If I got paid (other than the 25/day given by the gov't) I'd have no problem with it at all.
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Unless it really poses a financial burden, you should just go.
In most cases you show up, sit in a room, they go through the books to determine the need for jurors, and then most if not all are released. I think the latest they have ever kept me is like 11am.
If you do go, take a book to read, no iPods (or phones I think), and the room is usually kept very chilly (at least here it is) to keep people awake.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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contract gauruntees our pay while we are on jury duty so it would be like being on vacation,
Yes but I will lose almost 500 because they only pay straight time
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I've been on jury duty twice. It was not a very "cool" experience. We convicted a child molester in one and a 26yr old that beat and raped a woman in her 80's. Very disturbing cases. I do feel good about putting these guys away, but the experience was far from cool.
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I was on a Capital Murder jury pool. I was excused by both sides because they said I was too opinionated. I can't understand that.
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I never really inderstood why people try to get out of jury duty, besides being your civic duty, I always thought it would be cool to experience it once.
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1) No free parking for Akron jury duty. It costs me $6.50 per day.
2) The per diem allowance was (as I recall) something like $3.85 per day so I'm losing more money just to have lunch
3) Each per diem request had to be filed seperatly and mailed (another $.50 wasted to collect $3  )
4) They wanted me to be on call every day for two weeks
5) They can't commit to what time you'll be home each night (such as by 5:30)
6) I'd fall behind in my real job
It's great to say I'd like to do it but I pay enough taxes that it shouldn't cost me money to serve.
As it turned out I couldn't participate even if I wanted to due to my responsibilities with my kids.
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I'm permanently excused from jury duty..  Well I didn't ask for it.. but they gave it to me, because last time they summoned me, I was on dialysis and well couldn't serve because I needed to get my blood filtered out 3 days a week.. so they just excused me permanently..
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It is hard to get out of it today.
You can easily defer it if you have a verifiable reason, but getting out isn't easy.
Most cases, you show up the first day for instruction, then if you aren't called the first day, you get to leave, and now in most cases you can call down the night before on subsequent days to find out if you need to show up the next day.
DON'T just not show up. Not good my friend. You tend to be facing a irritated judge if you do.
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What happens if you, let's say forget, about your summons and never show? How long before they come looking for you?
And, how do they know you got the letter in the first place? They aren't signed for on delivery -- which they SHOULD be, IMO.
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How long??? Maybe a few days, months, maybe never.
I know judges are now pretty strict about it and usually issue a bench warrant for those who don't show on the spot, but I can't say how every court handles such matters..it's up to the judges discretion.
I know that is a broad span, but it is the best answer I have.
As to the letter being delivered, it probably won't fly all that far, but that is something you could argue before the judge. At minimum they would say you are here now and I am informing you you will be here at this time on this date...and probably don't expect early release if you aren't called. Just expect to sit at the courthouse the entire duration of your duty.
Really....how many times have you mailed something and it didn't arrive???
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It is hard to get out of it today.
You can easily defer it if you have a verifiable reason, but getting out isn't easy.
Most cases, you show up the first day for instruction, then if you aren't called the first day, you get to leave, and now in most cases you can call down the night before on subsequent days to find out if you need to show up the next day.
DON'T just not show up. Not good my friend. You tend to be facing a irritated judge if you do.
My son got a summons a few months ago. I called the court (and sent a letter with the form we had to return) explaining that he was in college full time, 3 hours away, and it would be difficult for him to fulfill his obligation. He was excused, no questions asked.
Myself, I got summoned a few years back. No getting out of it for me, and I wasn't looking to get out of it. Filled out the forms, blah blah blah.....then got called on by the defense attorney. Asked be a bunch of questions which I answered (education level, job status, etc). Then he point blank said "do you think you could find this person not guilty?". My reply was "isn't it your job to prove he's not guilty?".
I got released immediately, and it disappointed me, actually.
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My husband was on jury duty a couple of months ago. He just had to hang out in the jury pool room until Wednesday, never was chosen to be on a jury. My experience was a bit different though. I served in December 2007. When I had orientation, they told me that there were a lot of cases waiting to be tried, and that I was certain to be asked to be part of a jury. I wore a Steelers t-shirt, thinking that would help me get out of it. What happened - I got selected to a jury the first day, then the case got dismissed while we were waiting to go into the courtroom. The second time I got selected the first day, I was a 2nd alternate and the case went to trial, After 2 of the prospective jurors were rejected by the lawyers, I got put on the jury. Both of the lawyers and the judge were amused by my Steelers apparel, one of the lawyers even started talking to me about how cool the Steelers were. (good taste) I served on that jury, it had to do with insurance reimbursement for a lady who had been injured in an automobile accident. It was a fascinating experience, one I can recommend for anyone who is interested in how the legal system actually works. PM me if you want more info.
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Right after I graduated college, looking for a job, .......I sat in on a murder trial - sat in, as in the back seats - not on the jury or anything.
It was scary.....to be sitting there, in real life - not t.v., not a movie - this was real. To hear how the murder happened.......to hear how the defendant drove a car to chicago with a body in the trunk.....set the car on fire.......
This was in Elkhart County, Indiana - 1991.
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that would be very frightening. I would hate to be on a jury related to a murder case. I'm so thankful that my case was a civil case.
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I know that is a broad span, but it is the best answer I have.
That's kind of what I figured, thanks. I've never been called to jury duty...and hope I never am. LOL, now I'll get the summons next week. 
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I know that is a broad span, but it is the best answer I have.
That's kind of what I figured, thanks. I've never been called to jury duty...and hope I never am. LOL, now I'll get the summons next week.
Check your mailbox tommorrow. It should be in there.
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Then he point blank said "do you think you could find this person not guilty?". My reply was "isn't it your job to prove he's not guilty?".
I got released immediately, and it disappointed me, actually.
Should have said, "It's the prosecutor's job to prove he IS guilty." after all, we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty right?
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My reply was "isn't it your job to prove he's not guilty?".
I got released immediately, and it disappointed me, actually.
But it isn't his job to prove his client isn't guilty. That is presumed going in.
No wonder he used a peremptory challenge to have you dismissed.
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I knew when I saw the thread title that when I opened and read it you were going to be looking for a way out of it.... My first jury experience was on a Grand Jury at the county level. The last case we heard my brother was called in by the Prosecutor to testify. (he was a Deputy Sheriff at the time) When they finished, they asked if any members of the jury had any questions for the deputy, and I raised my hand and said "What time were you picking me up to go fishing again?" Everyone got a kick out of it except the Prosecutor....no sense of humor I guess.
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Right after I graduated college, looking for a job, .......I sat in on a murder trial - sat in, as in the back seats - not on the jury or anything.
It was scary.....
Scary sitting in a courtroom as an observer??? Wow.... 
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Right after I graduated college, looking for a job, .......I sat in on a murder trial - sat in, as in the back seats - not on the jury or anything.
It was scary.....
Scary sitting in a courtroom as an observer???
No, scary hearing testimony. Gory. Hearing what was done to the guy.......you know, that kind of thing?
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But it isn't his job to prove his client isn't guilty. That is presumed going in.
No wonder he used a peremptory challenge to have you dismissed.
Yeah, I guess he felt I had made my mind up already, when in fact I hadn't.
He did his job.
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No, scary hearing testimony. Gory. Hearing what was done to the guy.......you know, that kind of thing?
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I The last case we heard my brother was called in by the Prosecutor to testify. (he was a Deputy Sheriff at the time)
I thought having family in law enforcement automatically made you ineligible?? My mother in law got called for jury duty twice while my wifes dad was still on the Cleveland Police force and they would not let her sit on a jury because of it,just wondering.
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I recently received one from Berea Court. The instructions said fill out the form and mail it back to them. Anybody want to guess if the return envelope they supplied had any postage on it? Wow every one of you guessed right. It didn't. It briefly crossed my mind to just toss it in the mail. The return address was the same as the mailing address but I figured I could sport em a stamp and still eat that day. I've already done two tours in Common Pleas Court make it stop already. 
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It's great to say I'd like to do it but I pay enough taxes that it shouldn't cost me money to serve.
And the rest of us dont pay taxes? Well most do anyways. So I am not getting the reasoning that YOU shouldnt have to serve jury duty, while others should.
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I thought having family in law enforcement automatically made you ineligible?? My mother in law got called for jury duty twice while my wifes dad was still on the Cleveland Police force and they would not let her sit on a jury because of it,just wondering.
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It was a grand jury, our job was to determine if the prosecutor had enough to take the case to trial, not to determine guilt or innocence.
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I thought having family in law enforcement automatically made you ineligible?? My mother in law got called for jury duty twice while my wifes dad was still on the Cleveland Police force and they would not let her sit on a jury because of it,just wondering.
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It was a grand jury, our job was to determine if the prosecutor had enough to take the case to trial, not to determine guilt or innocence.
i understand the difference between a grand jury and a trial jury but couldnt there still be a possible conflict of interest? If a cop makes a arrest he feels he did the right thing and the guy is guilty. If a grand jury says that there is not enough evidence then it will not even go to trial. So if a cop has a family member on the grand jury couldnt there be a possibility of swaying that vote?
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Ever been on a grand jury?
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Ever been on a grand jury?
Nope, that is why I am asking someone who has,namely,YOU
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Michelle, I been hit three times the last couple years, and each month that this happened, it was different, Montgomery, is different then Huber, etc... so it all depends on the court. I never have had to go in, I just call the number, and if you forget, it's on you, they give you good notice and the dates, plus I was able to easily switch a month since my wife was coming home, so they are flexible to a degree, it seems.
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As stated, you aren't determining guilt or innocence and the prosecutor isn't going to present something unless he already feels pretty confident that he a prosecutable case. There isn't much "swaying" that they need to be concerned with. No one is there for the defendant in these cases.....it's just a matter of the prosecutor saying "Here is what we believe to have happened."
The grand jury decides if it's plausible.
That same day I saw a woman on the jury break down in fierce sobbing saying "I just can't send that young boy to prison." It took a lot of discussion to make her realize that we weren't. (He was eventually convicted at a regular trial because he was guiltier than hell)
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That same day I saw a woman on the jury break down in fierce sobbing saying "I just can't send that young boy to prison."
She was a great candidate for jury duty.
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