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Dungy: Quinn has all the qualities
By Steve Doerschuk
CantonRep.com staff report
Posted Jun 06, 2009 @ 09:42 PM
CANTON — Fresh off making headlines by declaring “the jury is out” on Jay Cutler, Tony Dungy weighed in on Brady Quinn while passing through the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday.
Dungy warmed up for his upcoming role as an NBC studio analyst by rocking the Chicago Bears’ boat, saying the 26-year-old Cutler’s résumé might not merit the monster contract they gave him.
What does Dungy think of Cleveland’s 24-year-old quarterback?
“I watched Brady Quinn in college,” said Dungy, in town for an All Pro Dad festival at Fawcett Stadium. “I think he’s a leader. I think he has all the qualities you’re looking for.”
Some of those qualities showed in Quinn’s first NFL start, a Nov. 6 duel against Cutler. He went 23-of-35 for 239 yards and gave the Browns a late lead with a TD drive. Cutler threw three fourth-quarter TD passes to give Denver a 34-30 win.
Dungy doesn’t assume Quinn will go into 2009 as Cleveland’s starter after a season cut short by a broken finger.
“Derek Anderson is good,” Dungy said. “We played these guys (on Nov. 30), and we had a lot of respect for Anderson. I think they’ve got two good quarterbacks.”
Anderson had the ball with a 6-3 lead in the fourth quarter when one of the poster plays for a season gone bad occurred. On third-and-8 near midfield, sack artist Dwight Freeney bowled over right tackle Kevin Shaffer, who fell backward into Anderson. The play resulted in a fumble, a return for a game-losing touchdown, and a season-ending injury to Anderson.
Dungy flashed back to 2007, when Anderson was 10-5 as the Browns’ starter.
“They were so close to being a playoff team,” Dungy said. “We had a game at the end of the year where, had we won, they would have made the playoffs, so they’re not that far away.”
Shaffer, Kellen Winslow and Joe Jurevicius are the only regular starters from the 2007 offense who are no longer with the team. New Head Coach Eric Mangini’s biggest project is retooling the defensive personnel.
Dungy, 53, is well acquainted with Mangini, whose fourth game as an NFL head coach was a 31-28 loss to Dungy’s Colts in 2006.
“The experience (Mangini piloted the Jets for three years) makes a ton of difference,” Dungy said. “You grow a lot, especially in those first five years.”
Mangini was a Patriots defensive assistant when they beat Dungy’s Colts 24-14 and 20-3 in the 2003 and 2004 playoffs.
“I like Eric a lot as a person,” Dungy said. “I’ve been around him in league meetings. Some of the ex-Patriots we had spoke highly of him.
“He’s gonna do a great job with the Browns, I’m sure.”
The Browns hope Mangini thrives in his second head coaching job the way Dungy did in his. Dungy was a respectable 56-46 with the Buccaneers, and an incredible 93-33 with the Colts.
“It can happen fast in the NFL,” Dungy said. “When I got to Tampa, there had been (13) straight losing seasons. We got to the playoffs in a couple years.
“Don't give up ... that would be my message.”
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“He’s gonna do a great job with the Browns, I’m sure.”
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I liked Dungy as a coach- class act. His voice tends to drone on a bit, so i'm not sure how he will transfer as the NBC analyst. He sure helped out the QB debate:   "Quinn has all the qualities" "Derek Anderson is good"
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Its interesting that the Canton Rep chose that headline, because based on what I read, Dungy straddled the fence. Thats why I didn't use their headline to title the thread.
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Good point. - He never went into detail about BQ. - Media for 'ya.
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“They were so close to being a playoff team,” Dungy said. “We had a game at the end of the year where, had we won, they would have made the playoffs, so they’re not that far away.”
Thanks for the reminder, Tony!! 
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He said everything you would expect him to say. It's not like he would say anything negative......he's too smart for that.
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I like Eric a lot as a person,” Dungy said. “I’ve been around him in league meetings. Some of the ex-Patriots we had spoke highly of him.
Again ex-players that like him. Seems there are more of them, than the ones that supposedly hate him.
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What does Dungy think of Cleveland’s 24-year-old quarterback?
“I watched Brady Quinn in college,” said Dungy, in town for an All Pro Dad festival at Fawcett Stadium. “I think he’s a leader. I think he has all the qualities you’re looking for.”
Some of those qualities showed in Quinn’s first NFL start, a Nov. 6 duel against Cutler. He went 23-of-35 for 239 yards and gave the Browns a late lead with a TD drive. Cutler threw three fourth-quarter TD passes to give Denver a 34-30 win.
Dungy doesn’t assume Quinn will go into 2009 as Cleveland’s starter after a season cut short by a broken finger.
“Derek Anderson is good,” Dungy said. “We played these guys (on Nov. 30), and we had a lot of respect for Anderson. I think they’ve got two good quarterbacks.”
I like Dungy, and I have to believe he is a good evaluator of players. To me when he mentions Quinn's leadership qualities, I think that says it all. His comments on DA sound like an attempt not to be seen as picking a favorite.To me though, I have to believe that Quinn would be his guy.
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Dungy doesn't come across to me as someone that pulls many punches. He didn't when speaking of Cutler.
I think he meant what he said about both...it is possible.
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T.V. analyst not sure on. Pro football analyst? He speaks I tend to read or listen. He thinks we could be better, he thinks we could turn around. I hope he's right.
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What does Dungy think of Cleveland’s 24-year-old quarterback?
“I watched Brady Quinn in college,” said Dungy, in town for an All Pro Dad festival at Fawcett Stadium. “I think he’s a leader. I think he has all the qualities you’re looking for.”
Some of those qualities showed in Quinn’s first NFL start, a Nov. 6 duel against Cutler. He went 23-of-35 for 239 yards and gave the Browns a late lead with a TD drive. Cutler threw three fourth-quarter TD passes to give Denver a 34-30 win.
Dungy doesn’t assume Quinn will go into 2009 as Cleveland’s starter after a season cut short by a broken finger.
“Derek Anderson is good,” Dungy said. “We played these guys (on Nov. 30), and we had a lot of respect for Anderson. I think they’ve got two good quarterbacks.”
So what did Dungy really say that we didn't allready know?
Absolutely nothing.
One of the reasons Quinn was a 1st round pick included his leadership potential. Without it, he's not a 1st round pick. But that wasn't something we all didn't allready know.
The talk won't mean anything until we see what either guy has during camp. Quinn has to be considered the front-runner for no other reason than what we paid for him. Luckily for us, we have an excellent fall-back guy in place if Quinn turns out to be a dud.
I'm withholding judgement until after the second pre-season game. To name a starter before that point would be simply a bad decision.
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Luckily for us, we have an excellent fall-back guy in place if Quinn turns out to be a dud.
What did I miss .. who did we pick up?? ..
DA and excelent should never be used in the SAME SENTANCE .... well unless it is "DA is an excellant back up" ..
DA is an excellent fall back guy ...
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Hey Toad:
Not much to talk about this time of year. The dead zone of football till camp opens.
Naming the starter:
I guess you could make a case to name a guy now as well as wait till the 3rd preseason game.
As much as I believe in camp competition I believe they should name Quinn early.
Mangini has had plenty of time to evaluate what film there is on Anderson. He was given his chance.
Quinn has not been given his chance. He is making first round money. It is time to see if he has the goods. By naming early he will get the most reps with the first unit, which he needs. It will be clear to the rest of the team that he is the guy. It allows confidence to build in both Quinn and the offensive unit.
In addition, Anderson can be tested in the role of a backup. Meaning is his head into the role? Will he prepare himself for the role properly? Will he be a team player in that role?
In watching Quinn as a backup you could see he embraced it. He was active, watching everything, looked ready to go and mentally in the game.
Anderson disappeared. I think what we have seen from Anderson is what we will get. Strong arm, less mobility than Quinn, and inconsistency. Inconsistency because of his decision making process. He can make all the throws but will often not make the right throw.
Maybe Mangini needs to demonstrate to his new players that his criterion for all position starters is based upon competition. Everyone starts from ground zero and you have to earn it to be the starter no matter where you come from. That may be so and maybe that is how it should be.
But in this case my preference is to name Quinn and get him the bulk of the work.
Get him there and leave him there for this year at least. Give him a fair evaluation.
Hey it's just my opinion; I could be wrong.
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I'm more interested in what he said about Mangini... considering that he has prepared for DA once, during a run when he was actually playing well.. and he has no frame of reference for BQ as a pro...
But I really believe Dungy is an honest guy of high character so for him to say he likes Mangini as a person... that makes me feel a lot better.
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Quinn has not been given his chance. He is making first round money.
Well here's the rub in all of this.
If Quinn doesn't start and take 70% of the snaps this year he stands to lose out on about 10 MILLION dollars. His contract also stipulated that if he took at least 55% of the snaps in any two of the first three years that he could make that money.
And we saw that he didn't start until that escalator could not be reached last year...Game 9 against Denver.
If Quinn isn't named the starter this year, Condon and Quinn will demand a trade, and it will be ugly.
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I guess you could make a case to name a guy now as well as wait till the 3rd preseason game.
As much as I believe in camp competition I believe they should name Quinn early.
Get ready to be confused, hehe.
I believe that if the organization KNOWS that Quinn is going to be the starter, I also believe he should be named the starter NOW. Get the team unified behind the quarterback.........that isn't rocket-science. To make a mock-competition doesn't do the team any good if it's just designed to make sure Anderson and Quinn take it seriously  So to that end, I'd hope that 'Gini is smart enough to understand it, which makes me think he isn't opposed to Anderson winning the job.
As a result of all that, it's either name a QB RIGHT NOW or don't name one until after the 2nd or just prior to the 3rd preseason game. Quote:
Quinn has not been given his chance. He is making first round money.
Quinn was given the chance, but injury put a cramp into that plan. It's also fair to say that Quinn ISN'T making first-round money. That won't happen until he hits those playing time esquelators (jempin jezoz, I caNt figur oot howe too spel esqaulaters ull uf o sadden!).
Having said that, this is his third year. Any first-rounder needs to be starting by his third year, I don't care what position he plays, so yeah, it's time to see what Quinn has. Quote:
In addition, Anderson can be tested in the role of a backup. Meaning is his head into the role? Will he prepare himself for the role properly? Will he be a team player in that role?
That's an unneccesary question, as Anderson's character is well-known by this point in time. We know he'll be a team-player. Sure, his agent may do what all agents do and ask for a trade, but virtually any player in the league would ask for the same thing. That wouldn't mean he doesn't accept his role and would be a Jeff Garcia on the bench.
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Maybe Mangini needs to demonstrate to his new players that his criterion for all position starters is based upon competition.
Unlike that Umpa-Lumpa that used to coach our team, Mangini may just mean it. That lack of credibility is a BIG part of what doomed RAC. 'Gini is a completely different type of guy, which gives me reason to stop and think before I say his competition is bogus.
We all know that the team wants Quinn to win the job. What we don't know is if the team will do the right thing and let the best man win.
As for talking about which QB has what skill, that one is pointless, as the new guy always has the favorable opinions compared to the old guy.
Let camp prove that Quinn is the better QB. For what we paid for him, he should be. I'm skeptical and think he's overrated, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that we need to see what the guy is made of. Like you, it's time to see what he's got. If he can't handle the pressure of Derek freakin' Anderson looking over his shoulder, he won't cut it in the NFL. Quote:
Hey it's just my opinion; I could be wrong.
Your honesty is a cop-out  You play a boring game by not professing that you've never been wrong and just KNOW Quinn is the best guy for the job *L*
Diam, what, since when does the term "fallback plan" mean a starter? C'mon Meatball! 
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So to that end, I'd hope that 'Gini is smart enough to understand it, which makes me think he isn't opposed to Anderson winning the job.
I agree.
Very sound point my friend.
Mangini is smart enough to know a QB controversy is a nightmare waiting to happen.
He wouldn't do that in some bogus effort to "motivate" the players.
If separation happens, it will be noted early in camp. If it lingers until the waning days, it means neither guy has really grabbed his attention, or, both guys skills sets are similar as far as end results are concerned.
From that one could conclude that if Anderson "sucks" as badly as many around here think, and BQ doesn't grab the starting role early in the process, then he can't be much better.
Great, or even good employees for that matter, don't usually remain rated the same or just marginal ahead of employees that suck. They usually pull to the front pretty easily.
At least that is my life's experience.
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If separation happens, it will be noted early in camp. If it lingers until the waning days, it means neither guy has really grabbed his attention, or, both guys skills sets are similar as far as end results are concerned.
Not necessarily.....(of course IMO.)
New coaches means yet another new system which presents a learning curve....there are those that have been referred to as "Great practice players" but then on Sunday turn back into a pumpkin. Separation may occur early on but this may only be an indication of adapting to the new system quicker than the other guy and may or may not translate into success when the clock strikes 12.
I agree that naming a starter now would alleviate some problems in the long run but have also believed the "competition" served a dual purpose; it keeps all players hungry and interested and it serves as a bargaining tool when displaying the value of the players to potential suitors, whether it be pre-season or off-season.
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I hear what you are saying....and I can't disagree with the basic point.
As a coach on a new team, he wants to set a standard....and....football doesn't always resemble the model the rest of us face in real life.
My life experience might not be germane to what happens on a football team.
We could probably jumble up all of our thoughts in to one and get a bit of everything that is happening right now with the Browns.
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Point 1: No matter what's being said publicly, the Browns quarterback position is Brady Quinn's to lose.
Based on comments coming out of Cleveland, it appears that head coach Eric Mangini won't officially name a starting quarterback until at least mid-August. He's said he wants to see Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson in a wide variety of situations before he makes that call. And that makes a lot of sense.
But that doesn't mean that it's not obvious that Brady Quinn is the better quarterback in Cleveland.
Mangini is playing the smart hand, especially when you consider that Anderson's ego has to be shaky at best. He's coming off of a rocky 2008 season that has undoubtedly damaged not only his confidence, but the confidence of some of his teammates as well.
Anderson was 3-6 as a starter last year. While it's not fair to put those losses just on his shoulders, as the leader of the offense, his performance wasn't nearly as sharp as it was in 2007.
"The big one for me is huddle presence and the ability to run the offense," Mangini explained during a press conference. "Who can most effectively run the offense? Who can look at the defense, understand what the coverage is and go to the right place with the ball? Who can see a blitz look and put us into the right play?
"There's always going to be some right answer. And the ability for us offensively to get to the right answer in a short amount of time, under pressure -- that's what's going to drive the decision."
Sure sounds like Quinn to me. He's the calmer, more focused and athletic quarterback. He's hungry to lead and has a field presence that his teammates should respect.
But I like the way Mangini is playing the cards that he's been dealt. The best thing for his club right now is a quarterback competition that shows equal support for Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson -- at least for now.
Imagine this scenario. Mangini hands the starter's role to Quinn now or early in training camp. Then the unthinkable happens and Quinn is sidelined with an injury. Anderson tries to salvage some respect while he inherits the starter's role by default. How well do you think he's going to play in that situation?
Instead, by dragging out the competition and withholding his proclamation, Mangini hedges his bets. If Quinn is injured, Anderson becomes the starter, powered by the illusion that he was possibly going to win the job outright.
Bottom line, intended or not, Mangini's strategy is a confidence builder for a veteran who just might stumble his way into the starter's role again -- and who can't afford another blow to his psyche.
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Let me tell you a fatal flaw of the logic in that article: Quote:
Imagine this scenario. Mangini hands the starter's role to Quinn now or early in training camp. Then the unthinkable happens and Quinn is sidelined with an injury. Anderson tries to salvage some respect while he inherits the starter's role by default. How well do you think he's going to play in that situation?
This has allready happened.
Quinn was the golden boy, and the only thing stopping him from being the starter was his signed contract. Everyone knew it was his job......not just to lose, but HIS JOB.
Then Anderson went off.
So that line of thinking is worthless.
And just so that some simpleton can't say I'm biased, this has nothing to do with talent or who I believe should win the job. It's a flawed example which submarines his point.
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Well, first notice I didn't make a comment. I just thought it was an article some people might be interested in ... so I posted it.
But here's my take on it ... and it's completely 180 from yours. It's not flawed logic at all. That scenario that played out - the one you described - happened TWO years ago. Has no bearing on the here and now at all.
The guy is spot on. You're reaching if you think that little tidbit is flawed. It's a new day in Browns Town with a new Sherriff. He's playing this perfectly. Can't believe I'm saying this ... but I agree with Diam 95% on all of this ... with one little twist.
The job is Quinn's to lose ... and that's where I think all of the hints are being dropped ... however, this regime wouldn't hesitate to give it to someone else if that's the way it turned out. But I don't believe Mangini and Co. think it will turn out that way at all.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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This is why I sometimes really despise the way writers use opinion as fact ..... Quote:
Anderson was 3-6 as a starter last year. While it's not fair to put those losses just on his shoulders, as the leader of the offense, his performance wasn't nearly as sharp as it was in 2007.
And Quinn was 0-3 as a starter. It isn't fair to pin all of the blame for that on him either.
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"There's always going to be some right answer. And the ability for us offensively to get to the right answer in a short amount of time, under pressure -- that's what's going to drive the decision."
Sure sounds like Quinn to me. He's the calmer, more focused and athletic quarterback. He's hungry to lead and has a field presence that his teammates should respect.
Waaaayyyyy back when Frye was the QB we saw a team with an extremely ineffectively run offense. He had NO understanding of what the defense was doing ... nor could he adjust a play based on what he saw. Blitzes were a recipe for "have the QB run around for 3-4 seconds until he runs himself into a sack".
Anderson was the opposite. I'm not claiming perection for the guy ..... but he did put the team into the right plays. he did adjust to the blitz. he did well under pressure ... especially at the end of games with the game still hanging in the balance.
It may "sound like Quinn" to the writer .... but he hasn't yet proven it on the field. For any and all of his other faults, Anderson did take many steps towards proving it.
Frankly, the "more athletic" comment is a wash. The league has had successful QBs who could run .. and other who could barely amble. (Kosar anyone?) There have also been many "athletic" QBs (Frye) who frankly sucked. Anderson proved himself as a leader on and off the field in 2007. Quinn got punched out in 2008. Leadership is important at the QB position, and frankly this type of thing still concerns me.
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"And Quinn was 0-3 as a starter. It isn't fair to pin all of the blame for that on him either."
You do realize we beat Buffalo with BQ as our starter...you know the game he broke his finger in.
Again this is a quote from Mangini... some put it in their articles with just half the quote.
"I want to go through the whole process, evaluate each phase, see it against other opponents," Mangini said Thursday before a voluntary practice. "It'll be pretty clear as to who should have the spot. It just has to reveal itself."
The last half to me indicates they know already and are just waiting for the right opportunity to name him the Starter.
Toad...I must have miss read your opinion. Are you trying to say the Contract is going to influence the decision?
I don't think Money will have anything to do with it...its all about winning.
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Waaaayyyyy back when Frye was the QB we saw a team with an extremely ineffectively run offense. He had NO understanding of what the defense was doing ... nor could he adjust a play based on what he saw. Blitzes were a recipe for "have the QB run around for 3-4 seconds until he runs himself into a sack".
Anderson was the opposite. I'm not claiming perection for the guy ..... but he did put the team into the right plays. he did adjust to the blitz. he did well under pressure ... especially at the end of games with the game still hanging in the balance.
many many things in that i feel compelled to respnd to ...
1. What does Frye have to do with anything .. anything at all ... saying that DA did tings better than Frye literally means nuttin .. being better than Frye is like being the toughest smurf .. WIPPIE DOOOO ... last year he couldn't overtake the "STUD" that is Seneca Wallace in Seattle .. need we say more??? ..
2. The comparision is pretty much baseless anyhow .. Frye played a total of one regular season in Chud's O .. 1 GAME ... and that game was against the stilers if i recall correctly .... then u go on to make the following ASSumptions ..
A. that DA put us in the "good" plays ... WOW .. talk about a leap .. and u wanna criticize writers for taking there opinions and representing them as fact ..
B. he adjusted well to the blitz??? .. really ... again .. your opinion that your turning into a fact ... and yes i do that all the time .. BUT I DON'T CRITICIZE WRITERS FOR DONG IT ..  .. ) ...
C. he did well under pressure ...
that just funny ... no clue how u can say that ....
at least u didn't claim perfection for the guy ...
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It may "sound like Quinn" to the writer .... but he hasn't yet proven it on the field.
at the NFL level .. he certainly did at the college level .. those are HIS STRENGTHS ....
he also has NOT DISPROVEN he can do those things ...
and its pretty tough to prove sumptin without having the time on the field to prove it ..
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I agree .. he did take many steps to proving it .. problem is he also took MANY STEPS TO DISPROVE IT ... and he did them both sometimes in the same game ... and sometimes he did them in the same quarter .. *L* ..
did u watch the 2nd half of 07 .. HE WAS NOT A GOOD QB BY ANY RATIONAL STANDARDS .. NONE ..
and last year .. well ... u really wanna go there ..
U can spin it any way U want .. but EVERYTHING Jeannie has said points DIRECTLY AT BQ ...
tell Loyal and KOB and "the witch is dead" I said hello ... and if u pass Toad on the way .... give him a hey for me ... 
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The last half to me indicates they know already and are just waiting for the right opportunity to name him the Starter.
Not directed entirely at you but is this really a debate at all?
I mean we pretty much know whats going to transpire..the more interesting piece will be seeing how Quinn runs the offense and if the new pieces will work..
Once more..I'll wait till week 5 or six and we'll have a good look at how things are shaping up..
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Well Diam ... go back to 2007 and re-watch the 1st 12 or so games.
Then you'll see why I say that there was some ability there.
Watch, compare and contrast the ofense under Frye as compared to the offense under Anderson and ytou might get my comparison there.
So far Quinn has neither proven nor disproven anything. I do have some reasons for concern. I hope that I'm wrong this time.
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Toad...I must have miss read your opinion. Are you trying to say the Contract is going to influence the decision?
Miss-read..............No, but perhaps a little bit of misinterpretation because it's easy to treat the word "money" as a synonym for the word "investment." In fact, until Quinn reaches the escalators (yeah, I figured it out *L*) he's a guy who is costing the team nothing in terms of actual money.
No, by talking about what we've invested (or spent) to get him in this position, we're talking about the draft picks invested, the emotional investments not only by the fans but by the organization as well, and finally, in a less important way, by investing in Quinn, we DIDN'T invest in someone else.
I'm going to call this last one the "Charlie Frye factor." Savage BLEW IT by drafting Frye at all. I've argued against the angle that we needed a QB so it was an OK gamble for taking Frye when we did, simply because the evaluations that said he was a viable NFL QB were flat, dead WRONG. Because we invested in Frye, we DIDN'T invest in someone else who may have turned out to be the guy.
So, we've invested in Quinn, which means we didn't invest in someone else. That isn't to say we've made a mistake. It's to say we've hitched our cart to Quinn, and because of that, it only makes sense that he's the guy that needs the chance to go out there and win the job.
Laying all that out means Quinn should get first crack at the gig because of what we've actually spent to get him.
Rish, I didn't say it was YOUR opinion. I said I was pointing out a flaw in that writers opinion.
Now, to argue the point with you...........Just because it was two years ago means that it has no bearing on the hear and now?
Hardly.
Two years ago, Anderson was a nobody who was fighting the pressure just to make the roster while Quinn was the golden-child and the given future of this team. It wasn't a question of IF, it was a question of WHEN.
Unlike two years ago, Anderson actually has more clout and credibility now than he did then. He handled that pressure incredibly well, which shocked us all. So for this writer to come out and say Anderson can't handle the pressure of this is just dead wrong. He's handled it allready. The only REAL question is if he has what it takes to be an NFL QB in terms of what he's doing on the field.
It's a dud article that falls flat on it's face in more than one instance. To me, articles like that actually hurt Quinn's case in the eyes of many fans.
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Anderson is the QB equivalent of a light switch. He's either on or off.
I could put together a Hall of Fame highlight package of plays he's made.
I could also put together a lowlight package that would have you questioning if he's throwing it with the correct hand.
We all know what he can and cannot do on the field. All of us could devise a defense to stop him at this point. And there in lies the problem.
Quinn's time is now. It's time to see if he can stretch defenses and make difficult, aggressive throws.
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Luckily for us, we have an excellent fall-back guy in place if Quinn turns out to be a dud.
What did I miss .. who did we pick up?? ..
DA and excelent should never be used in the SAME SENTANCE .... well unless it is "DA is an excellant back up" ..
DA is an excellent fall back guy ...
Thanks for the laugh bro ...
ummm. dude, i think that's basically what he said.
wow.
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That's actually one of the best descriptions of Anderson I've ever read.
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You gave me a headache... 
Regarding DA n Frye...I said at the time that both were fighting for our future BACK UP QB position - especially after we drafted Frye.
After the Pro Bowl invite (even if it was a little back door) DA would never accept the back up role.
And it doesn't seem like he is now...if a player ever reminded me of the character Eyeore it would have to be DA.
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Thats not what OT said, he said he is an excellent fall back guy which means if Quinn isn't good enough he would be an excellent replacement as a starter,
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I am backing Dungy's horse on this one. Genie gets better this year, sifts out a few more losers, either benches them or shoots them out of town, and next season we are in the hunt. I am fully willing to be surprised stupid this year, but Dungy is a good judge of horseflesh. 
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If Dungy likes Mangini as a person, that's good, but I certainly hope he likes him as a coach too.
Dungy certainly is a guy of high character. He is quoted as crediting Chuck Noll and the Steelers, from which he gained most of his knowledge. He played DB on the early 70's Steeler Super Bowl teams, and then became an assistant with the Steelers before moving on as head coach. No wonder everyone here loves Dungy.
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Chuck Noll? lol yeah ok, actually the Sid Gillman tree - but he was a yes man under Noll and was the DC in Pitt 1984 but he took the Yes, Man job cause as an Afr. American coach he had to take the figure head spot.
But note he left the Steeler DC job as a Token to take a real coaching job with the Chiefs as a DB coach in 1989...Dennis Green was his mentor not Chuck Noll and it was there that he developed his own style.
Now its more than a coincidence that Dungy perfected the Cover 2 that was used in the Seventies in the Steel Curtain days. But sorry Cupernicus...the Universe does not revolve around the Steelers...lol
Good luck as we pass you by this year. The past is the past and in the moment we happen to be catching up to you guys fast.
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But I really believe Dungy is an honest guy of high character so for him to say he likes Mangini as a person... that makes me feel a lot better.
If Dungy likes Mangini as a person, that's good, but I certainly hope he likes him as a coach too.
Dungy certainly is a guy of high character. He is quoted as crediting Chuck Noll and the Steelers, from which he gained most of his knowledge. He played DB on the early 70's Steeler Super Bowl teams, and then became an assistant with the Steelers before moving on as head coach. No wonder everyone here loves Dungy.
I collect Steeler football cards as a matter of historical reference and found this statement odd,...I love Tony Dungy too,....but he did not play in either of the 2 "early" seventies Steeler Super Bowl wins and, was a substitute in the 78 Super Bowl, according to nfl.com.
This does not mean he was or wasn't a regular during the 78 season, but he was not even a Steeler in the early seventies. I believe he was a Minnesota Golden Gopher,...
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