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Very interesting. The story that can't seem to disappear...I wonder why?? http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/777472.htmlThis is the online partner of the Columbus(Ga) Ledger-Enquirer
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What an idiot...glad they let him out, though.
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Don't understand why they let him escape a duty he volunteered for .
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And I thought i would have to feel up another guy to escape deployment...this is much easier.
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And I thought i would have to feel up another guy to escape deployment...this is much easier.
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So you don't need me to come over anymore?
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And I thought i would have to feel up another guy to escape deployment...this is much easier.
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So you don't need me to come over anymore?
NEED is the key word.
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So you don't need me to come over anymore?
NEED is the key word.
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This thread is gettin' a little racy lol.
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What an idiot...glad they let him out, though.
Do you know what God and Obama have in common?.......Neither one has a birth certificate.
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Do you know what God and Obama have in common?.......Neither one has a birth certificate.
Actually, he does have one. The whole 'birth certificate' thing is a fringe issue bought into by morons.
The guy has been a pretty constant failure since he's been in office...why his detractors feel the need to cling to these crazy conspiracy theories that have been roundly disproven are beyond me.
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Do you know what God and Obama have in common?.......Neither one has a birth certificate.
Do you know the difference between God and Obama?.....God doesn't think he's Obama.
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I'm not even sure why it's interesting.. A reserve soldier doesn't want to go to war, hires an attorney that doesn't think Obama is president, Lawyer uses his own agenda on soldiers behalf and yet, nobody is addressing the real issue..
Is Obama the President or isn't he?
All records I've seen (really, that amounts to a copy of his birth certificate) indicates he was born an american citizen. Nobody has proven that he wasn't or I suspect he'd be out of office already,,
So, again, I ask. Why is this interesting?
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Am I the only one that is confused? Quote:
Last week he filed a request in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector...
In it Taitz asks the court to consider granting her client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States
So is he being let out BECAUSE of the Obama objection or just because he filed as a conscientious objector?
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the reserve soldier who says he shouldn't have to go to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama was never eligible to be president, has had his deployment orders revoked,...
Earlier today, Quon said Cook submitted a formal written request to Human Resources Command-St. Louis on May 8, 2009 volunteering to serve one year in Afghanistan with Special Operations Command, U.S. Army Central Command, beginning July 15, 2009. The soldier's orders were issued on June 9, Quon said.
As of this afternoon, Cook had not asked for his orders to be revoked, Quon said. She could not say why the soldier's orders were pulled today by 3 p.m. CDT.
So is he going or not? And if he's not, why ask out now because Obama was President when he volunteered back in May also....
Something is strange about this story...
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The story that can't seem to disappear...I wonder why??
Because every sore loser in the Republican party likes to float this thing as proof that McCain didn't really get his butt kicked.
What's next? A story on how, if you jumble his name, it somehow spells Beelzebub? 
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My theory is that the military is treating U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook much like the NFL treated Maurice Clarett. There were others the NFL could have used in defense of its draft policies, but Clarett represented the easiest one to bring to court.
And to bring this theory full circle, it was Obama's Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayer that overturned the lower court and issued the opinion in favor of NFL against Clarett entering the league prematurely.
At this point I would like to rest my case, but honestly now I have forgotten what in the heck it was.
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And to bring this theory full circle, it was Obama's Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayer that overturned the lower court and issued the opinion in favor of NFL against Clarett entering the league prematurely.
I think that's wrong.
Yes, Clarett proved to be wildly immature and bizarre...we saw the same from Michael Jackson.
Should a court have declared that Michael was too young to be a global megastar at 11?
In hindsight...probably. Lawfully? NO.
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I think the proverbial proof is in the pudding,...entertaining at 11 can be done easily by a Michael Jackson type ballplayer (npi,...). Clarett proved beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt that he should have stayed in school under the guidance of the Tressel Father Figure he never had.
High schoolers and college freshmen-- 99 /100 -- are not ready for the NFL. If so, there would be more of them. But talent is not the issue,..the issue is money. THAT's why they "go."
All the NFL would have to do, is do what the government does -- no job without a college degree. (CIA, Marine officer, OMB, etc.) You'd get a better quality player and a better charactered human being (again 99/100).
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Yea, and you shouldn't be allowed to make a rap album without a college degree either. 
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High schoolers and college freshmen-- 99 /100 -- are not ready for the NFL.
11 year olds...hell, let's even go 16-18 -- are not ready for worldwide fame.
My point is...should the law mandate it?
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Disagree,...  Different animal, albeit both could be considered entertainment. However, in the supposed "picture," we hope we are using our athletic ability to attain a college degree -- and we all know that's not how "it is." The difference is, some players in the NFL get paid for performing at levels subpar to the competition. Our own team is a big example of that. The system has made the money more important than an education. Our priorities are dorkwhackled. Bottom line. I wouldn't have a problem at all with a salary schedule that was "bonused" by a college degree. Even if the player went back after getting his draft slot cemented,....
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No, the law shouldn't be involved in mandating or deciding that at all... it is the Right of the Organization they are entering into to determine what limitations and qualifications they wish to impose, provided that those limitations do not violate any other laws.
The judicial system should only be involved in interpreting whether or not the limitations being set are lawful or not. They should not be deciding "is 16 too young for 'x'?", they should only be deciding "does 'Organization Y' have the legal right to decide that they will only allow people older than 'n'?".
There is a big distinction there that I feel is lost on many.
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They should not be deciding "is 16 too young for 'x'?"
I agree with you...
...but this statement/sentence invites a Pandora's Box in regard to sex laws.
I have no point here except to point out an interesting contradiction.
I don't want to make the focus of employment/fame/sex regarding kids as the sole factor in this question -- but when and where does the law decide?
That's always an interesting question to ask point blank...many, many different answers. Many scenarios.
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Guess that's why we call them "judges,..."
For example, age is not the factor when a public teacher has sex with a student,...period. Regardless of the law.
On thread topic though,...has anyone seen Obama's BC yet ?? Isn't the public deserving of that ?? I had to present mine to get in the Marines, and they would not accept a "copy," requiring a hands-on viewing of The Original. And that was in 1972.
I don't think posting BO's BC is beyond an unreasonable expectation. And in this case of most probable false accusation, I think it is stupid of the Administration to not shut this thing up by making a presentation. This has NOT been done -- so it leaves a question mark.
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On thread topic though,...has anyone seen Obama's BC yet ?? Isn't the public deserving of that ?? I had to present mine to get in the Marines, and they would not accept a "copy," requiring a hands-on viewing of The Original. And that was in 1972.
I don't think posting BO's BC is beyond an unreasonable expectation. And in this case of most probable false accusation, I think it is stupid of the Administration to not shut this thing up by making a presentation. This has NOT been done -- so it leaves a question mark.
a) Do you actually believe he's not an American born citizen?
b) Does that - when you think about it logically - really make a big difference to you?
As far as I've read on the subject, the guy was born here. (and trust me, I'm the crazy behind-closed-doors-conspiracy guy  ).
I find the Obama B.C. conspiracy gang to be as dumb as the U.S.-internally-planned-9/11 conspiracy gang.
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Yes, I actually do believe that he MAY NOT be.
And yes, to me it makes a difference. While I usually stand on moral and ethical ground rather than legal, our Constitution REQUIRES it. Now, if the Constitution is amended to allow a foreign born National to be elected, then it's a different story. Does it really make a difference ? Most probably not.
That this is possibly a most severe integrity violation hints of a lesser character. THAT is my issue.
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a.) Given that the possibility has been raised and hasn't cleared with complete certainty, it is most certainly an issue of concern.
b.) Absolutely it makes a difference. I already feel that he is horrible, but it'd be a travesty if he was both horrible and ILLEGAL/ILLEGITIMATE.
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If a marine recruit is required to present the actual document, why isn't the president? I don't believe Obama's an illegal, but the marine has every right to question his not being required to produce the actual birth certificate. As far as I know, the only version available to the public is the copy posted on the internet that was verified by a couple of Hawiian officials..
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I know I will not be satisfied until I see a photo of the supposed original.
Do you think for a single second that if it were to be discovered that my BC was a fake and that I really wasn't a retired Marine, but rather some Russian KGB planted spy that something wouldn't be done ?? ("No Way Out" -- great movie.)
I just cannot believe the Democrats haven't played this card to shut the other side of the aisle up,...either that, or they're holding it for some other unknown.
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I'm in the military but never seen combat. IMO wouldn't removing this soldier from a deployment actually be better for the unit as a whole?
This soldier's head may not be in the fight or he could possibly lower morale for the unit by wanting to complain about being there.
He could make it worse for the folks around him just by his attitude. Maybe I am off base, but that is how I see it
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Not that actually having ever been in combat is a qualifier here, but he handled it incorrectly. He should have just had an entry made into his record that he "serves at the pleasure of a President" that he doesn't believe to be Constitutionally qualified to be so,...just my opinion.
You're right though,...to put his entire career and the integrity of his unit in jeopardy was shortsighted.
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It will be interesting if others try to follow this officer's footsteps.
If enough do it could get ugly.
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So, again, I ask. Why is this interesting?
Actually, I ask for the same reason.
Why does this story continue to have legs?? Either he has a legit birth certificatae or he doesn't and should be impeached and imprisoned for fraud immediately.
Everybody on this board has had to produce a legit birth certificate at one point or another.
Nobody ever questioned mine....why is his still being questioned??
I guess some will say it's just the morons..maybe that is all it is....or....maybe not.
Time for the story to end, and there is only one way to do that...
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Just noticed in the original link. This guy volunteered to serve on 8 May 2009 in Afgan. If he questioned Obama's right as commander in chief, shouldn't it have came up either before or shortly after his election?
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The story that can't seem to disappear...I wonder why??
Because every sore loser in the Republican party likes to float this thing as proof that McCain didn't really get his butt kicked.
What's next? A story on how, if you jumble his name, it somehow spells Beelzebub?
LOL...that made me grin....
I still don't get why it is a story that doesn't go away....it is in the courts now with the Army taking strange positions...
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So, again, I ask. Why is this interesting?
Actually, I ask for the same reason.
Why does this story continue to have legs?? Either he has a legit birth certificatae or he doesn't and should be impeached and imprisoned for fraud immediately.
Everybody on this board has had to produce a legit birth certificate at one point or another.
Nobody ever questioned mine....why is his still being questioned??
I guess some will say it's just the morons..maybe that is all it is....or....maybe not.
Time for the story to end, and there is only one way to do that...
Guess you don't have to, to be President.
I am assuming he was vetted, but I have assumed other things in other situations before.
It IS still a question,...I would like to see it answered.
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LOL...that made me grin....
I still don't get why it is a story that doesn't go away....it is in the courts now with the Army taking strange positions...
{Shrug}
It's still a story because people are still trying to discredit anything about Obama.. That is why..
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It's still a story because people are still trying to discredit anything about Obama.. That is why..
Typical liberal response. Everybody knows that ever since Pearl Harbor, Hawaii has been part of Japan.
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Typical liberal response. Everybody knows that ever since Pearl Harbor, Hawaii has been part of Japan.
LOL I thought Hawaii was part of Germany....
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I really don't understand why they can't show the document? It makes no sense and does raise questions IMO. This could so easily go away with the showing of the birth certificate, but yet it still hasn't been shown. 
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