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effective passing game, mainly due to the recievers we have.
I think we have a very good group and should be set. The one that has not been mentioned is the every down player Josh Cribbs. He was looking very good on Saturday and should have scored. He is a great threat once he catches the ball since he is so hard to catch and tackle.
Furrey and Patten are both very good and should be clutch players. Patten has the same versitality as Cribbs with a three scores in one game (pass, run and throwing). He has ability and shou dbe part of our team.
Edwards is a mystery and if he ever decides to play should be a real threat.
Robiske is very good just as good as Santanio Holmes in catching the ball (at this stage of his career) maybe not as fast. Robiske is a very consistent player that knows how to make big catches. Massaquoi is also very good but not as fast and not as physical. Both should be very good and help us.
Our TEs are also very good both in blocking and catching. I especially want to see Rucker who should be a TD machine. ROyal is very similar to DInkins so no real gain. Heiden is a great blcoker that can also be a goal line threat catching and blocking. We should be set there.
I think if we need anything it is LBs and not WRs
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The one that has not been mentioned is the every down player Josh Cribbs. He was looking very good on Saturday and should have scored. He is a great threat once he catches the ball since he is so hard to catch and tackle.
I've stated it before and continue to go on record as saying that if Cribbs is going to be heavily relied upon as a receiver, our offense is doomed to failure.
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The one thing you can't deny though, is that he is a threat in the open field with the ball in his hands and will have to be accounted for.
But he'll have to string together some big plays, (of which he's capable), before opponents take that seriously. So, if he doesn't get the ball much then he is a non threat
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I'm not that convinced he's a big threat in the open field in terms of working his way through traffic without the ball.
As a bubble-screen guy he's ok, but he's done his best work on kick-returns. I haven't seen anything from him in terms of being a viable receiver.
Most receivers in the NFL are great in the open field, but very few of them are good at finding holes, reading coverages, making adjustments, and catching balls.
To put it simply, Quincy Morgan was great in the open field, but was a HUGE liability as a receiver.
I'm not the least bit comfortable trying to develop Quinn and Anderson or Robiskie and MoMas while trying to also teach Cribbs how to be a receiver.
There are just so many reasons to shoot down the idea of him being a receiver that it's tough even typing them. All-in-all, it's just a huge roll of the dice.
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So wadda you know? 
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"He don't know chit!" 
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I don't know how many receivers we will keep, but if I had to guess right now I would say
1.)Braylon
2.)Mo Mass
3.)Furrey
4.)Cribbs
5.)Robiskie
That leaves Patten, Hubbard, Legett I believe.
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I think our Number two receiver will change often this season. I can see Furrey there, Cribbs there, and Robo there; all depending on situation and how the season goes.
Though for right now I think your observation is spot on.
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Just clicking.
I don't think we are weak at receiver....just inexperienced.
Edwards....is Edwards....more hype than substance, but he isn't a bad receiver.
Cribbs..he will be #2...while inexperienced, he catches the ball. He plays hard...he is our Heinz Ward.
Furrey...a chain mover who catches nearly everything...great addition.
MoMas...He becomes our #1 when Edwards leaves...He becomes a legit top receiver in this league.
Robo...A solid #2 in wait, though the OSU connection is showing a bit of hype. He was the rook people thought would start, but MoMas is clearly ahead.
Those are the main players, so I will leave it at that.
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I don't think we're all that weak either..and Mass showed he has speed and can catch..give these guys experience..
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Just clicking.
I don't think we are weak at receiver....just inexperienced.
Edwards....is Edwards....more hype than substance, but he isn't a bad receiver.
Cribbs..he will be #2...while inexperienced, he catches the ball. He plays hard...he is our Heinz Ward.
Furrey...a chain mover who catches nearly everything...great addition.
MoMas...He becomes our #1 when Edwards leaves...He becomes a legit top receiver in this league.
Robo...A solid #2 in wait, though the OSU connection is showing a bit of hype. He was the rook people thought would start, but MoMas is clearly ahead.
Those are the main players, so I will leave it at that.
Agreed.
Drafting Robiskie and Massaquoi really added depth to the receiving core that we would have been in major, major trouble had we not done so.
But I think the most unheralded signing that will receive the most applause after the season was signing Mike Furrey.
As I've said in other threads, I'm very, very intrigued about Cribbs playing as a Wes Welker YAC type. I don't think he's a full blown #2 though, more of a "slot #2" like Welker where he's technically the 3rd receiver but is the #2 option in the offense the Pats run.
I was keying in on Robiskie during the game, mostly during the 3rd quarter, he was getting open downfield. It was more of Ratliff not seeing him/misthrowing more than anything else.
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But I think the most unheralded signing that will receive the most applause after the season was signing Mike Furrey.
Quite true. After seeing Furrey in the Detroit game many of my worries started to go away.
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I believe that we are about middling as our receiving CORPS stands. I think the more we use them, the better they will get. We throw better than we run. We need to throw much less to BE unless he gets his head out and up. I feel good about how some good use has been made of the TEs as well. They are used too little. I want to see Tucker and Thomas in the slot blocking down. 
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Hopefully Furrey could be our Wes Welker/Lance Moore type of guy.
A guy that can be relied on to run short routes, catch the ball, and advance it for short gains.
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I think that Furrey alone makes this a better WR corps than last year's group. Last year we had Edwards and very little else. This year, if nothing else, we should now have a #1 and a #2.
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agreed. at this point, though, i think it looks more like edwards, momass, and furrey as our top 3. hopefully robo picks up soon but at this time, it looks pretty good.
i've been thinking the other day, i wonder if momass and robiskie is analogous to DA and quinn in a way? one who is viewed as having more "big play but more raw" ability and one is viewed as "more pro ready and polished." don't mean anything by this but wondering if others have noticed this.
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Cribbs reminds me of a bigger Metcalf with more durability. He can knock down DBs and make plays. Toad is right he will have to learn to be a WR but think of all of the things he has and the things that can't be taught. Someone with that much ability has to be part of our offense. He has shown he can catch the ball and make the short pass into a big gain. I am a Cribbs fan and would like to see him in the position to make big plays for us.
Time is on our side since he can always play KR and PR and make small gains during the season. I really don't think learning to be a WR involves as much thinking as pure speed and ability. The coach does all of the thinking in making up the plays and then chosing the one that springs the WR at the right time.
I also like Patten and think he should be kept for depth. We are now in a position to drop good players for very good players something we have not been able to do until latley.
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