DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Beanie Wells carted off field...

I certainly hope it's nothing serious, and an injury can happen to anyone. But, what was one of the big knocks on Beanie coming out of college? I just remember reading that people were unsure if Beanie knew the difference between hurting and actually being injured.

Like I said, I hope it's nothing and he gets back on the field soon.

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Cardinals | Wells injury update
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Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:50:28 -0700

Updating a previous report, Darren Urban, of AZCardinals.com, reports Arizona Cardinals RB Chris Wells (ankle) suffered an apparent ankle injury during practice Saturday, Aug. 1. He was carted off the field because of the injury.

Cardinals | Wells scheduled to undergo X-rays
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Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:04:46 -0700

Updating previous reports, Kent Somers, of The Arizona Republic, reports Arizona Cardinals RB Chris Wells (ankle) was scheduled to undergo X-rays on his injured ankle Saturday, Aug. 1.

man i'm rooting like hell for him....i hope he can bounce back like ALLL day did his rookie year...or even half as good...granted AD didn't get hurt until few games into the season.

He had the same knock on him about how he always got hurt...even though it was never anything serious like broken leg or MCL/PCL tears...it was always something minor just like beanie.

GOODLUCK BEANIE! Hope he is fine.

Was it during practice or was it just stepping out of the car? The guy always has some type of NAGGING INJURY that's just kind of slowing him down or is enough to get him out of practice..

Sorry to say this, and I know Buckeye fans may pounce on me for this sentiment, but I feel that the one thing other than durability I questioned most with Beanie, was his toughness. He may at times run tough just like Jim Brown did back in the day, but he doesn't do it all the time and through pain like he would. Like in the Michigan game last year getting a full head of steam 20 yards into the secondary with only a safety to beat, he pulled up out of bounds instead of going with the stiff-arm or trying to bull him over or go around him. There were other times too I felt his toughness wasn't there. I'm just saying, until he learns how to stay healthy and/or play hurt better and be tougher, he won't be an elite RB that he has the potential to be...

I read about this. Wasn't surprised, either.

Damn shame. The guy is extremely talented, but always has some dumb little injury. Never anything major. No torn knees, but twists his ankles or hurts his toe quite often.

hell chris spielman made fun of him on 1460 the fan for not being tough...you aren't the only one.

Adrian Peterson

Big buckeye fan Josh, and you are right he is injury prone.

I'm glad we have Harrison and Davis...

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Wells is the complete physical package for what you'd want out of a back, but he isn't going to last long in the NFL. I'm glad we didn't take him.

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Weren't you preaching the same thing about Peterson?

come on man...u kno i was kiddin..sheesh..
+ someone already answered your Q.

"all day" is adian peterson

You hit on the one difference between AP and Beanie, but the other issue was Peterson had some big injuries. Injuries you get from bad hits, etc. Wells just gets dinged up all the time. Constantly tweaking an ankle here and there. Limps off the field practically every game. I'm actually much more scared of that than I am with the injuries with AP.

I wasn't as concerned with Peterson as some people on here. He has been more than good in his short NFL tenure. Nothing short of amazing, IMO..

I love Wells. The guy has so much potential with his size and speed, but I was much more concerned with his injury history in comparison to Peterson. And I'm a big OSU fan.

Would I have taken Peterson in the top 5 of the draft? Yeah.

Would I have done the same with Wells? Hell no. I think 31 with Arizona is fitting. By then, you have a guy with top 10 talent, but questionable durability. The gamble is much, much less there.

Anyways, hopefully Beanie can get it going in the NFL. Wish him all the best, but we're probably going to read stories like this often.

here is a nice highlight

Was just ribbing you a little.

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Peterson, so far, has checked out. Wells, so far, hasn't. When you've got MILLIONS of dollars on the line, would YOU be willing to take a 50/50 shot that the player will pan out?

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I would be skeptical also, that's why I felt the same way about Peterson. As far as that draft though, I wanted Thomas all the way.

while i agree with you that if i was a GM i wouldn't want to take a chance (in 1st round) on a player that has been hurt so much....but when you think about how much of freaks they are...ahh it would be a tough choice to make. It depends on the team IMO.

I still think we made the right choice in going with thomas...i mean if we picked ALLLLL DAYYYY..i would have been even happier right now...but our team at that time needed a solid starter...not a risky player..
That being said i think zona made a perfect choice...they needed a big RB like beanie...and they picked 31st in the first round...they just lost in the super bowl....for them high risk high reward made sense....for us it didn't cuz we can't afford to miss right now.

I wanted Joe Thomas since the Senior Bowl after the 2006 season. I love the big, corn-fed aw-shucks monster LT.

J/C.. For feed back on this.

Published Tuesday, July 1, 2008


Tim Engstrom
People often worry about injuries in football. When I mention my hare-brained ideas for changing the rules in football and how they would make the game better and reduce injuries, most people disagree.

You probably will too, but I know Tribune Creative Director Stacey Bahr, a huge football fan, agrees with me.

The biggest problem with football is unlimited substitution. Legions of players replace legions of players. This means teams need massive rosters, and on college campuses this single factor is killing other men’s sports — baseball, wrestling and gymnastics, among others — as the schools struggle to meet Title IX requirements.

The main problem with football’s large number of substitutions in the pros, college and even high school is too many fresh players end up hitting worn-out players, increasing the likelihood for injuries. Also, more substitution encourages teams to seek bigger, specialty athletes, such as a tackle who plays only on short-yardage situations.

The NFL for many years limited rosters to 45 people. Now it is up to 53, though only 47 can dress for games. The NCAA sets the number of football scholarships per team at a whopping 85. (Wrestling, for comparison’s sake, is limited to 9.9 scholarships and baseball to 11.7.)

If the rules of football limited team rosters to 24 people, which is 11 on offense, 11 on defense, a punter and a kicker, then some dynamics would change. The teams would need slimmer, longer-lasting athletes, like rugby players but heftier, rather than hulk-sized players who maim people during the limited time they actually play. In fact, like in basketball and soccer, we would get to see our favorite players play more.

In fact, many players probably would play offense and defense, which to me is exciting. Many would display skills at multiple positions, like Kordell Stewart did for the Pittsburgh Steelers early in his 12-year pro career. People called him Slash, but that sort of player is a rarity in the NFL and Division I college.

I think it’s crazy how college football teams get 85 scholarships, but the amount of time the players actually play in competition over the course of a season is minimal compared to, say, soccer players, baseball players or basketball players.

And when players become tired, they would be facing other tired players, reducing the likelihood for injuries that result in fresh vs. fatigued collisions. Yes, there would still be injuries. Even baseball has injuries. But I’m betting there would be fewer injuries and make the game more exciting.

People would still watch and the revenue would still flow, which means other men’s sports on college campuses would make a comeback.

Another change is getting rid of the pads and helmets.

Gasp!

OK, I don’t mean get rid of protection altogether. Hear me out.

Pads and helmets in football seem to be used more as a weapon than as protection. It seems no matter how the pads are worn — and, yes, I played football in high school, mainly as a bench warmer/defensive end — players will have exposed areas, and other players will use their pads and helmets to strike those areas. Isn’t that a cause of many injuries?

And aren’t the pads these days merely ways to hide the holding that happens on each and every down? What sense is there with a game that allows breaking the rules all the time?

Perhaps if the sport had helmets with soft exteriors, like a leather helmet, it would be used less as a spearhead. Perhaps if the pads were redesigned with soft exteriors, rather than rock-hard plastic, they would be used less as weapons.

What I am saying is for the game to get back to its roots but keep the modern penalties for injury-prone hits. Fewer pads. Smaller rosters. Fewer scholarships for college players.

Of course, that would never happen.

Further, how relevant is football to high school students? Most people aren’t likely to play football ever again after they graduate high school except for a few pickup games in college. It’s not a lifelong sport. A 45-year-old man is more likely to play softball, run or ski than he is to play football. If schools are supposed to prepare students for life, how does football honestly fit the bill? And don’t tell me about life lessons. Plenty of other sports teach the same teamwork and leadership skills that football teaches.

Anyway, I like football and would like to keep it in high schools, because, hey, it’s fun. I merely offer something to think about.

Tribune Managing Editor Tim Engstrom’s column appears every Tuesday.

Pads shoud be for protection, not weapons.

Hockey is a good example... rock-hard pads lead to more injuries because players with plastic pads can hit someone at full tilt and not be afraid of being hurt themselves.

All that stuff, IMO, can result in a greater sense of invulnerability.

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It's a VERY dicey idea to take injury-prone players in the 1st round. Unlike Peterson, Wells doesn't even play through injuries, making him even more of a risk

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Overtoad, where do you get off saying that? I'm not quite sure what "injury prone" is unless it's playing to the peak of your ability.
Now as to not playing through his injuries....

Wells, who rolled his left leg during a collision with a teammate, had a deep injury history during his time at Ohio State. He had a left ankle sprain, a right wrist sprain and a thumb fracture in 2007, and he suffered a right foot sprain, turf toe, a hamstring strain and a concussion last season. Still, Wells missed just three games.

I'd say that was pretty much playing through his injuries.

I wonder if he gets hurt just as much as everyone else, it's just that he doesn't play through it. Now, maybe he is made of glass and truly gets injured easily. But I really have questioned for some time if he's just, well, a wuss.

Always dinged..seems to happen a bit much for him..but he doesn't play through every annoyance..

There were rumors that Tressell and his staff were unhappy with Beanie for not playing through the injuries. I have no idea if this was true or not but it was covered by the national media.

I *really* wanted Beanie to be a Brown. I loved his size and running style... but based on what I am hearing, it just sounds like he is soft, and we've got enough of that here - no more room for it.

I agree with what everyone else is saying. Beanie had unbelievable god given athletic ability but he was a wuss and that's hard for me to say because I loved what he did for OSU

and if james davis pans out, we'll have a bargain

that's interesting. maybe he didn't want to get hurt more knowing he was going into the draft. either way, i'm glad we didn't take him.

Can't play through it, a wuss always hurt etc....
HE MISS THREE FREAKIN GAMES AT OSU!!! WHERE DO YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THIS CRAP?
I'd take beanie 7 days a week.

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remember how bad i wanted beanie to be a brown?
lol anyone in that draft room will remember how much i annoyed the hell out of everyone...

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Why do you think I started insulting Beanie in there?